Interior of the Orion spacecraft

[predatortheme]

The apollo board computer had less power then a 10 year old mobile and they still made it

[YoLninYo]

Good luck black dudes making it into the actual orion module. ;-)

[barbarotico]

Part of the jewish propaganda to destroy the white race. A negro and a white girl as the "comanders" of the mission. Is for this reason that the higly evolved beings from the ufos don't contact us, because they see that the humans of earth are returning to the beast state.

[DaanGFX]

@barbarotico jews are white too dipshit. did a black guy beat the shit out of you and now your a racist? i bet one did. faggot.

[fucktardickis]

the guy pn the bottom's just like, Bill did you fart again?

[JasnoGT]

Why cant we use all the borrowed alien craft we already have? We dont need to build these.

[bloodancers]

It looks cramped

[501alistair]

i'm funny...

[OpionatedOldMan]

Don't Kid Yourself; Whoever owns space owns the freedom of the world... If America stops having a presence in space, you better start learning Russian...

[TheHotelMoxa]

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DEAR bobafetthotmail -The nuclear thermal engine is decades at least till it will be put to practice,I am talking about of a new aprouch regarding an expadition to the moon.

Mankind should build a permanent international lunar outpost,much like the ISS,and organize monthly crew expadition,they could use the current Progress spacecraft for supllies.

And I know some of you may think it is imposible with current space technology and economicaly unpractical but I am certain we can do it.

[5botball]

I read that this is going to replace the shuttle. is this true?

[Localmode]

OBAMA has decided to send Americans back to the moon, but only if the crew is made up of minorities or women. The two seem to be interchangeable. See what being politically correct has brought upon the white man. We gave the minorities their freedoms and the women their equal rights and they in turn shoved them right up our ass. Now they will drag our country through the mud and muck. Way to go!

[frankensteinmoneymac]

@Localmode Yep....ya got an IQ of around 65 don't ya?

[Localmode]

@frankensteinmoneymac I must admit, I was a little pissed off when I wrote this. But, lame as it sounds it is actually Obama's agenda. Overcompensation I guess and a natural trend too. It will balance out in time.

As far as my IQ goes, the last time I was tested it was around 140-145. Not too low and not too high. Just enough to get me into trouble.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

@Localmode I appreciate your toned down rhetoric this time :) I take back my nasty comment.....BUT I do gotta say something 'bout your IQ score....You SURE it was 140-145? Thats actually pretty high! Enough to get into Mensa (I know cause Im in it myself)...yet you say "Not too low and not too high".....or were you just being modest?Which is perfectly ok, if so. Just curious.

[Localmode]

@frankensteinmoneymac Well, lets just say college bores me. I was 4.0 in computer science until I got bored and quit as a senior. That's what the test said a couple of times. It's just a number. My problem is I'm just lazy. I wish I could be more ambitious, but I'd rather live in the wild away from too many people. To quote an old teacher of mine; I have a grasshopper mentality. Aries are like that, so I've been told. Nothing holds my attention for long. Later. ; )

[frankensteinmoneymac]

@Localmode A lot of smart guys are like that...honestly I never felt I learned very much in college, or school, I learned more studying on my own. I did horrible in High School...but when College came I found it really EZ. School wouldve been easy too but I just didnt care back then. Honestly I alwasy felt I learned more, and studied harder on my own...so college seemed like slacking off! LOL! All except for Math, which although Ive got a high IQ, I have a learning Disability in.

[Hodson2000]

Did it occur to anyone to run the chairs around the around shape and put the cargo in the center?

[Hodson2000]

Not a very efficient use of the interior volume...

[Cosmored]

The evidence that the moon missions were faked is crushing. There's a partial summary of it on a science forum. To see it google "The Naked Scientists". In the "New Theories" section of the forum there's a thread entitled "Did We Land on the Moon?". The summary is on page 15. It's the 7th post from the top.

[predatortheme]

shut up, moon landing is real, look up the apollo 11 videos like they docked and undocked form the spacecraft and how they landed.

[knightryderrwn]

I was not aware of the reduction in capability or the elimination of the reusability factor. I stand corrected, then.

[knightryderrwn]

SteveNovak,

The Orion spacecraft would have been reusable for up to 10 missions. The Ares-1 first stage was also slated to be reusable, as it was based on existing SRB technology from the Space Shuttle program. The ONLY part of the system that would not have been reusable was the Altair lunar lander, like its Apollo LEM predecessor.

As to an "economic" way to get to space, wasn't that what the shuttle was supposed to be?  Getting to space and back is expensive. Period.

[sideslide23]

never mind now, neither of this mission will happen because the whole world is Broke, we'll never catch up with the rest of the Universe.

[knightryderrwn]

@sideslide23,

You're right - neither of these missions will happen. According to reports, the entire Constellation program will be SCRAPPED, including the Orion capsule.

[giggedy133]

the orion spaceship is designed to go to the moon not mars.

[SparksterMk1]

In 2019 nasa have scheduled manned flights to the moon with the aim of setting up a manned base but they have also released plans to go to Mars sometime in the 2030s.

[Hiraghm]

Once you reach orbit, you're halfway to anywhere.

(quoted from, I believe, Robert A. Heinlein)

It takes as much Delta V to reach orbit as it takes to go from orbit to, IIRC, Mars.

[sardoniclysane]

What?

Vaccinations have saved millions of lives.... what are you getting at?

[TheCherokeeboy]

hey it's bigger than i thought. but how can that thing carry enough food for like a month if we wanna go to mars

[sardoniclysane]

I'd imagine they'll have to develop much larger ship for such a interplanetary mission.

[Nightmonkey17]

All that technology and you think they could put in more comfortable seats?

[EASYTIGER10]

They wont need them for long! They'd just get in the way.

[hornyarab11]

Ya they slap temperpedic foam in it duh!

[jbeatles99]

@Nightmonkey17 maybe a bed feel bad for the astronauts that will suffer in there

[Armigo91]

@Nightmonkey17

completely ridiculous comment.

You dont need seats in spaceflight. 99 out of 100 times the cabin air is your seat. Sit on the ceiling, sit on the floor, oh heck, what is actualy the floor?

The only time spent in a chair is during liftoff and reentry. And both procedures endure for 5 to 15minutes.

A mission itself may last weeks or months

Having more quality chairs in space while floating?

No idea why that comment was worth 9thumbs. Probably classified by real dumb people like u

[Nightmonkey17]

@Armigo91

Lol. Another tech nerd who doesn't understand humor.

[estonski]

it's like ten times bigger than apollo main module like like WOW

[mailboxqwert]

woo a joystick is in it. now i can play HAWX

[EUROSUN1]

America can`t afford to go to the moon. They have massive debt already. They can only go to the moon if they make even more debt. By the way this thing looks like a tin can. Americans have to stop dreaming and wake up before they bankrupt their nation.

[AcidRain64]

Do not underestimate the value of science and scientific endeavors, my friend.

[RCvolunteer1978]

the ONLY ones that has been able to stay 180 days in a closed system are submariners but they did not go back into the ship for a long back some Navies on a six monthes on and six months off Rotation

[tpsu129]

I just love the political correctness when it comes to the crew and their positions.

[blueblob4]

aren't there only supposed to be 3 people in there?

[ingareinar007]

That was back in the Apollo days. This is new stuff :)

[themanso08]

yo it will be tough ass shit if the goverment was building a special top secret star trek like ship to be sent to mars...

[WarGodKills]

Make faster ships like sci-fi stuff it should take us less than a week to get to mars to bad money wasted on the war but we need to advance our tech 1969 have same speed as 2011 spacecraft kinda sad... (dont know when they going to moon 2011 or 2018?

[MokomaSusi]

Not with our current technology. We are still using dead plants (coal and oil) main power source of our civilizations...

[CowBoyAero]

isnt that why they built the supercollider in Europe for study of Atom based power? dont know much on it but some one mentioned it and space travle

[1TheRealDeal1]

Plans for 2020 i heard, and we are going to build moon bases around that time, which is pretty cool.

[Jontheking100]

yea, thats what i heard too...cant wait :)

[JustAManInAMask]

I think the problem with taking this to mars is how is it going to bring up water?

[rocketshipstud]

a moon mission is about 7 days...manned mars is 6 months outbound...6 months on mars...6 months return...earth vs mars orbits geometry etc...manned mars is a different barrel of monkeys entirely!

[biggles122]

it takes 3 years to get to mars at the moment

[fireboot1]

no it takes about a year or less. mars mission would take about 3 years get there stay there and come back = 3 years

[am4281]

Not 3 years, 2 1/2.

6mo. each way with 1 1/2 year on surface stay.

[TheMarsSociety]

only 180 days to get to Mars

do a search here for Mars Direct : )

[blent3342]

it may be small but its a start, its not like star-trek spacecrafts were there's more room then a 3-story building, so everyone should just chill out the time will come when there's enough space for more then 4-6 people ,remember i don't think Orion will be a spacecraft sent to mars this is for the moon most likely there will be new designs for mars trips.

[RedFoxAce]

Going to Mars takes months. I think this interior is a bit too small - astronauts would go crazy.

[Australian123Gamer]

i thought it was suppose to be a bit smaller

[chevezez]

Where's the xbox? if i was an astronaut on a mission to mars i would require an xbox, psp doesn't matter, as long as it kills time. That's the other thing, in the future (hopefully past 2012) missions that last longer then a year could be executed with the use of virtual reality unless some form of stasis is invented, porn stash anyone?

[chevezez]

and whoops sry ToyOi didn't realise you had the same comment, my bad

[marsCubed]

While it is true that remote control of space craft and exploratory vehicles is possible, they have their limits. For instance the time delay in commands and feedback over larger distances mean that everything has to be done in small steps. Robots do not have the sophistication to determine for themselves what to do with novel information (yet), this is something human beings are far better suited to. So we will need ppl and their xboxes there someday to check out if it really is like in Doom.

[Darkwolfy88]

no cd or mp3 player? :P

[ZemplinTemplar]

Yeah, what a shame, hehe... :-) But it looks promising. The cockpit reminds me more of the current shuttles, although it has an Apollo-like feeling to it. Ah, nostalgia... :-)

[mytubedavid]

so what if were going back to the moon havent we being there already????????!!!!

[bleed0range]

Because we have to learn how to sustain ourselves on the moon in order to learn how to do so on Mars before we go there... they'll spend up to six months on the moon versus a few days in the Apollo missions. And when they're on Mars they'll spend six months just getting there and over a year on it's surface. It's very important to use the Moon as a stepping stone.

[tamiasthechipmunk]

Plus we would able to adapt technologies and techniques from the new moon missions to better sustain ourselves in a less invasive and more eco-friendly way here on Earth.

[joachim2464]

what are you suggesting? We cant just go straight to Mars. The moon will be the dress rehearsal

[Ceylerion]

The Orion is just the taxi cab. The actual mission modules will be the "payload," that might even be delivered by an automated uncrewed vessel. Or it might be the Altair lander. Either way, the Orion is actually fit for its intended task.

This is a tried and tested method, slightly updated. It is economical, practical and relatively safe in comparison to pioneering yet another approach.

Just becasue it LOOKS like Apollo, it doesn't mean it IS Apollo. There is C21st tech here guys. :)

[A86]

I agree Ceylerion. I agree that this isn't Apollo but it's the more advanced little brother of Apollo (or the cousin of Apollo, however you want to look at it). That's not an insult because I personally think Apollo and the Soviet Union's Zond program were the best space programs ever undertaken by humans. Apollo took man to the moon and Zond sent unmanned missions which took data too dangerous for manned missions. NASA chose to follow the Apollo method because it's the best method.

[Ceylerion]

Earth has in the past suffered catastrophic environmental shifts on more than one occasion. It wasn't always the way it is now.

And there have been more devastating asteroid hits than you likely realise. The extinction of the Dinosaurs was only the famous one - there were many many more and many many mass extinctions. And if it happened so many times before it can surely happen again. Its just a matter of time.

Space is the future. Space is our survival. If we don't go, we die. Simple.

[sideslide23]

as you can see, these two lcd screen is also a touch screen instead of lots of buttons you see on the space shuttle so you can easly control the system.

[couldntthinkofone12]

LMAO

[chuckshissle]

We can have a station there. I don't believe people will live there though. Why go to other planets if we have Earth, the most beautiful planet in the Solar System. In the future mankind will restore Earth and visits other planets as tourists.

[driverblue1]

Its called terra forming, Make mars like earth and live there.

[couldntthinkofone12]

and if earth gets hit by an asteroid it would suck to live there...i personally think it would be nice to have more planets to live on as backup plans

[dcb1138]

Will the female astronauts have blue hair in the future ? The are sulking because someone just pooped in the plastic baggies they'll have to use.

[Fricasso79]

Why are people sulking because it looks like Apollo? Apollo was the closest thing to a real spacecraft we've ever built. The shuttle was just an orbital glider - it was the backwards step, not Orion.

[BMitzvahkid1994]

I agree.

[skatebmxtom]

i agree orion is essentially a 21st century version of a 60's ship. Apollos were great which means orion will be outstanding. But i disagree about the shuttle. The shuttle was a heavy lifting truck designed for a completely different job than orion, orion is essentially a car

[violatenor26]

one reason for a capsule format is because of the speed of the spacecraft at reentry to earth from the moon. when coming back from the moon, the capsule is going at least 25,000 mph, where the shuttle is only in low earth orbit (still inside the atmosphere) and moving at around 17,500 mph. Wings on any ship would disintegrate. Hypersonic and shuttle travel can only be done in low orbit. Maybe Plasma or Nuclear propulsion will could us to Mars, but they are building that ship in space.

[McBainMwa]

Is this re usable?

[ClancD]

The first stage of the Ares I, the SRB and the SRBs on the Ares V will be reusable. The rest will be one use.

[bezvezeceda]

Ugly modeling.

[DinadanX]

Orion looks like the old 60's space modules only with modern computers on it. I wanted to see the x-33, then warp drives, and then space ships like in sci-fi. Seems that I'll die and there will be no significant advance on space travel :S

[TheDeist]

Well. How much time do you have left?

I have a good 40-50 years left, so I should get to see some major advancements. :)

[Membrane556]

Don't worry NASA is not the only game in manned spaceflight like it was during the 60s.

Private companies like spacex,Orbital, and spacedev are designing and building true next generation spacecraft.

Plus the Russsians have an excellent spacecraft called kliper in the works and yes they are going to mars unlike nasa they are funding the nuclear and ion propulsion part needed to go beyond the moon.

So yes there will be advancements just they will not be NASA's work.

[SkyFox98]

I thought Russia canceled Kliper. And also the only thing that the Orion CEV can do and the Kliper cant do is land on an asteroid.

[Membrane556]

It's really hard to tell but Russia wants an all Russian spacecraft though they're also working on ACTS but expect this international vehicle to play second fiddle to any all Russian Soyuz successors.

But your right it seems the Russians haven't shown much interest in asteroid missions though they have done unmanned missions the Mars' moons.

[calimann83]

dont expect to much when any goverment is involved. the only time you will get something fancy is when your dealing with privet firms.

[Antiworld23]

Yeah there are no white males in this video. And people wonder why NASA hasn't done anything significant since the 1970s when they're more concerned about the diversity of their crew members than exploring space and developing new technologies.

[jimmyhammilton]

nice work....

[squidmanwill]

orion is a joke its like stepping back 40 years lets just pull the mercury modules out of the museum and you those for petes sake why go back to non reusable

[NScott45]

squid, don't you dare insult Apollo technology. It is still a masterpiece even by today's standards. And just to let you know, Orion is a completely different spacecraft. Perhaps the only thing it has in common with Apollo is its shape!

[toodoo213]

plus Apollo guys were smarter! squid go play your scifi games!

[Membrane556]

Orion it's self isn't stupid just a little unimaginative.

But using it with the stick really is a titanic mistake a real SDV would be truly shuttle derived and use 4 segment srbs and on the sides of the ET not in line and would use two to 5 ground start cryo engines and would have a payload of 50 to 130 tons.

[Membrane556]

Doesn't look official looks like some crap somebody did on their home PC.

One notice the poor layout and the lack of a bathroom module and the lack of the familiar orange launch suits used on the shuttle.

[Antiworld23]

I guess only niggers and hoes are qualified to pilot this thing.

[FafaDublin]

I guess racist pricks like you are qualified to shut their mouth and keep on fuckin their donkeys in whatever gutter they are living in...

[Gammaclipper]

You're doing it wrong! This is not the Orion nuclear pulse rocket, it's a lame shuttle rebuild and is undeserving of the monicker Orion.

[InfiniteMushroom]

Jeez, I remember von Braun and his contributions to the Nuclear Thermal Rocket program back in the early '60's. WE HAD THE TECHNOLOGY THEN and the technology projected to come online would've made interplanetary travel a done deal by 2000! Interstellar travel looked realistic by 2020. But our REAL rulers have brought America down and forced us to look away from the stars and hang our heads low. NASA has fallen long and far from it's days of glory in the 60's and 70's.

[xXxTeashxXx]

nice i hope i can get in it one day in the future..

[HAL11000]

Oh, this is a lot more roomy than that cramped Apollo capsule.

[Freddiemustdie]

No offence, but why are there no Caucasian Males?

[YoshiSeven]

Because diversity is the future.

[InfiniteMushroom]

Caucasian males are targeted for elimination in the Brave New World. Caucasian males have surrendered their glorious inheritance for the thin fetid gruel of "diversity". The Orion spacecraft demo is propaganda, anyway. America's future is in prisons, mass surveillance, and management of our slide into a Third World society. Such a gutted nation isn't going back to the moon. We are building one last great expression of America before giving it away to China and India.

[Antiworld23]

Diversity breeds racisim.

[sedna69a]

There's no sense in fighting it. The high point of Western / American civilization was in the past. The working people of America get poorer and more in debt each year while places like China thrive off our weakness in trade and foriegn policy. I don't blame China, they know which attitudes it takes to win. They play hardball and we don't which equals 10% annual growth for them and and more trillions in debt and deficit for us.

[A86]

"No offence, but why are there no Caucasian Males?"

I dunno. I guess they were being overly-politically correct. LOL! I'm black by the way. ;)

But in real life there was a black NASA trainee who was months away from becoming a full-fledged NASA astronaut in 1967. His name was Robert Lawerence, Jr. It's likely that he would have been one of the Apollo astronauts or at least one of the choices to go to Skylab. He was actually involved in the MOL program, the proposed Gemini version of Skylab.

[backtublive]

ohh they didn't tell u .... they going to make porn on the moon :)

[TroyOi]

"No offence, but why are there no Caucasian Males?"

You're all wrong. It's just that, by this time in the future, all the white males will have been weaned on PlayStation's, Nintendos & Wii's, & would rather take virtual trips to the stars then go thru all this hassle.

[aliasnode]

I hope that i'm able to be in this one day.

[Membrane556]

Why would you want to fly on that pile of junk when the private spacecraft will be much better and safer?

[toodoo213]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[rbkinn]

What do the 4 extra people do during the mission?

[Stewker]

Experiments, research, responsible for payloads, or a variety of other different things. Possibly paying tourists, etc.

[rbkinn]

I would like to make that trip!  I wish a shuttle vehicle could be built to make the trip from earth orbit to the moon on the order of Space 1999 Eagles. It's cool to see sci-fi become sci-reality.

[pr0t0color]

The four people in the Orion are passengers. The Orion carries no payload; there are no payload responsibilities for them. The Orion is strictly a space taxi. It is for transporting personel to orbit and back. For more complex missions, mission modules will have to be launched separately.

The Orion, as originally planned, is an awesome spacecraft. Let's see how much of that coolness survives the trim-down process necessary to make Orion light enough for Ares I (The Stick) to lift.

[Membrane556]

Ares I is why it's pretty much screwed. Why build another EELV class vehicle and one with it's first stage set in stone nothing so nuts has even been done before.

Every other manned launch system has had room for payload growth.

Having room for unexpected mass increases is part of engineering 101 rule number 2 things will often end up heavier then they are first planed.

When the head of the russian space program is laughing at you maybe you the decision you made was a bad one after all.

[pr0t0color]

Agreed. Ares I (The Shaft) is a bad idea of epic proportions. Just manrate one of the heavier EELV variants and use that to loft CEV for crew-only flights. For crew+cargo flights put everything on top of the Shuttle stack; just leave off the orbiter and "glue" some disposable engines to the bottom of the external tank. Voila! A real Shuttle Derived Launch Vehicle that would give the rest of the world a serious case of rocket envy.

[TheHotelMoxa]

@pr0t0color yeah and this will cost extra taxpayer money

[madpaintbalerx]

@TheHotelMoxa And you seriously care about taxpayer money when it comes to space travel? You're an ungrateful, selfish asshole if you don't want to pay taxes to do something this marvelous.

[TheHotelMoxa]

@madpaintbalerx listen douchebag I want NASA to return to the moon,but it's absurd to do that with the same technology as used on Saturn 5.

[bobafetthotmail]

@TheHotelMoxa What do you want? A flying carpet? A remake like that is indeed the best idea, unless you want to use NERVA-like engines.

A BIG HUGE staged rocket mostly composed of fuel, that discards pieces as it reaches destination to dump useless mass to allow so anemic engines as chemical rockets do the lifting.

It's like trying to go from coast to coast without having to refuel. The majority of the vehicle is gas. And that is the same even with a 40 years old car.

Change the engine damnit.

[Antiworld23]

@TheHotelMoxa Why it works? Why not build off of what works and is proven? The real reason for the cancellation is because it would add to America's prestige and technological edge and Obama was put in place to slow US technological and economic development and the cancellation of the only realistic and viable shuttle replacement is further proof of that. May he be impeached by the next congress.

[dcb1138]

@Antiworld23 - You hit the nail on the head !!! Obama's science advisor is anti-progress