Not all biologists believe that birds are dinosaurs... This group of scientists emphasize the differences between dinosaurs and birds, claiming that the differences are too great for the birds to have evolved from earlier dinosaurs. Alan Feduccia, and Larry Martin, for instance, contend that birds could not have evolved from any known group of dinosaurs.
@danephillips Yes but they think they evolved from a different reptile group. Dinosaurs with feathers did not have to die out for modern birds to evolve on a different line of reptiles. Dino did have 3 forward toes, feathers, hollow bone, oval eggs in nests, etc.
The reason for the "dino-bird" and "feathered dinosaur" stories that frequently appear in the evolutionist press is simply an effort on their part to show that their claim that birds evolved from dinosaurs has been proven by fossil discoveries. The fact is, however, that none of these fossils has offered any scientific evidence at all for that claim. What is more,fact is many evolutionists do not believe it either.
@danephillips Read some history. The first feathered dinosaur with teeth was found 2 years after Darwin published his book. It was the first transitional fossil and evolution has been accepted ever sense.
Renowned ornithologists Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin believe that it is totally an erroneous scenario. A college textbook, Developmental Biology reads:
Not all biologists believe that birds are dinosaurs...
Also the word dinosaur is a new word really before the term was created, dinosaurs were called dragons .. Chinese calender has all real animals so why have a made up one .Well again the term dinosaur was once called dragon ...
@danephillips No little boy, dragons are make believe. We know about dinosaurs from the fossils, the people who study the fossils say they stopped making them 65 million years ago. Dinosaurs do not breath fire. Dinosaurs are tetrapods like you, four limbs. How many does a dragon have counting the 2 wings. 6?
@gregrutz Again you do not have facts you want to blindly believe what ever you told . They found froze dinosaurs in ice .Still with soft tissue ... Impossible for it to be 65 million years. I ask you have you ever seen a dinosuar ? How you know if a dinosaur did not breathe fire.Bombardier beetles produces and stores two reactant chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide .Evolution only makes assumption and you believe them as fact .Pure blind faith you have.
@danephillips No dummy, dinosaurs are not just large lizards. They have there legs under them like birds, not out to the side like crocks and other lizards.
@gregrutz study of dinosaurs began in the 1820s of England. In 1842, Richard Owen coined the term dinosaur, which he called a large lizard.Before that they were called dragons.THis is history fact.By the way I went to the brain washing of public school ... You accept anything they tell you .You have nothing but blind faith in evolutionary assumption .AGAIN Not all of evolutionary science accept the bird were dinosaur that fact.
@warriorprince1010 OF COURSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER OPEN A GEOLOGY BOOK, LOOKED AT THE FOSSIL RECORD OR STUDIED SCIENCE.
@gregrutz Let me ask something have you even been able to draw picture of something you never seen ?? So if dinosaur are 65 million years old .How come Ancient art works show perfect examples of Dinosaur Depictions.Again you cannot make a image of something you never seen.Ancient History also record people like Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs .The found fossil with soft tissue soft tissue breaks down after 10,000 years .You been brainwashed by liberals.
@warriorprince1010 What is the name of the flood mud layer with all the dead bodies in it? Why does the fossil record show the animals were all different from the animals that are alive today?
it is undoubtedly true that dinosaurs lived past the mass extinction but it does not prove or disprove anything other than that the mass extinction wasnt complete extinction. and also it proves the length of time evolution can take since from 65mil yrs ago the dinosaurs did not evolve much as seen on the rocks. it may prove that evolution is not a plausible explanation of mans existence. given further research.
Evolution wouldnt be destroyed by dinosaurs walking on the earth last tuesday. You clearly have no idea what the theory of evolution actually is and how it works.
"Some of these stones weighed 300 million tons" I'm glad he was allowed to be corrected by the other guy otherwise that might have been the most ridiculous thing I ever heard!
This was True sorry Skeptics our History is so wrong its like a Man wearing a Dress!! ..Time to get the True History thats been suppressed by the Freaks at to Top of the Government who run everything secretly.
The layering of sedimentary rock during a Flood, I would say, is the only plausible explanation for rock layers. I don't get how rain and dust during millions of years could put down these layers, and certainly I can not fathom how these layers can differ so much from each other and change so abrubtly. Excavators find coal deposits as breathtakingly deep. If these were formed over millions of years, where are new deposits forming today?
Two con men at one time. Excellent! One with a fake Ph.D. (Baugh) and Swift received his Doctorate in Theology from the University of South Africa. Swift's "Masters" is from an unaccredited Master's Divinity School Program in Biblical Apologetics. Expert in paleontology my ass. Expert at the con-game, YES.
it is intersting see that the person who made the stones one Basilio Uschuya when investigated said thay were a hoax. then said thay were real then finoly said thay were a hoax again with the quote "Making these stones is easier than farming the land" it is also interesting to note that Vicente Paris in 1998 investigate the stones and found traces of modern paints and abrasives in the etchings. also Basilio showed bbc reporters how he made them. backing in cow dung to fake age
Let's further note that Uschuya didn't just SAY they were forgeries--he demonstrated HOW he forged, them, on television. Last I checked, he still makes them for tourists.
It's amazing how credulous some Creationists are. Carl Baugh and Don Patton are utter charlatans, and yet people eat up what they say.
ok the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the question of dinosour and human coexistance. the reason people do believe thay coexisted is because we have never found any remains that are in the same strata and consiquitly date the same as humans. evolution deals with allilic frequincy within populations of living things. it dosent dicktate when thay die just the variation there in. so even if we found a dinosour today it would not shed light on mutation and natural solection.
" It is sad that Carl Baugh will 'muddy the water' for many Christians and non-Christians. Some Christians will try to use Baugh's 'evidences' in witnessing and get 'shot down' by someone who is scientifically literate. The ones witnessed to will thereafter be wary of all creation evidences and even more inclined to dismiss Christians as nut cases not worth listening to."
"Also, the Christian is likely to be less apt to witness, even perhaps tempted to doubt their own faith (wondering what other misinformation they have gullibly believed from Christian teachers). CSF ministers to strengthen the faith of Christians and equip them for the work of evangelism and, sadly, the long term effect of Carl Baugh's efforts will be detrimental to both."
Guys, you've got to look at other ancient technologies. It's so exicting. The ancients performed complicated, intricate medical procedures that people think are only modern inventions. What we have to today are really reinventions lost in time due to the collapse of Rome and the destruction of the great library of alexandria. Search for ancient inventions. The Greeks even made a computer device 2,000 years ago. It's truly remarkable. We actually haven't come as far as we like to think.
Creationist organizations such as Answers in Genesis have criticized Baugh's claims saying he "muddied the water for many Christians. . . . People are being misled."
We should see thousands of intermediate bird fossils gradually growing longer and longer wings. Where r the bird precursors in the fossil record?? Where r the fossils of animals containing progressively deepening eye sockets as the eyes supposedly evolved?? Why don't we see the radical mutations evolution rigorously espouses producing utilitarian tissue for the construction of new organs and body parts anywhere today? Evolution is an illusionary concept that takes place in the mind only.
Dinos and man did coexist. And I agree: evolution is here to stay. As fantastical, unscientific and impossible as it is. It gives the naturalistic athiests justification for rejecting God.
If people would just use logic and reason that would b enuff to put it to rest. There should b thousands of intermediate stages of fossils(practically out numbering the complete fully formed fossils we actually see) in the fossil record. Instead we see single celled fossils then Suddenly the Cambrian explosion displaying all fully formed complex animals. We should see thousands of living fish growing legs and arms preparing for a land invasion.
Well the people that sold the Ica stones to the foreigners later admitted that they were faked. That was after a 4 year study that studied micrograph imaging that the stones were made with modern paints and abrasives. Also the erosion of the stones and engraving were not nearly as vast as what would be expected from the age. He was almost thrown in prison and several documentaries showed on film how he committed the fraud. I'd personally call that proof.
yeah but there is more. i dont but for i have see realy make belive that evolition in a 50% or more is fake i know the rock some where fake but other where they didnt look up those man there more than rocks. so idont what is goint to happen in future lets see.
@joroma77 Oh I don't know, how about MONEY? The man who sold them to the owner of the museum admitted soon after being ARRESTED that he forged them. It's not like he gave them away... he told the physician who bought them that he found them in a cave but never told anyone what cave he found them in. Later, he admitted to making them. He made them so he could sell them to idiotic people who believe in idiotic things, similar to OTHER tourist traps.
@Gods0n1 The stones can be MOVED from Country to Country. They are small enough to transport. There were stones taken to Spain from Peru in the 16th century, but NONE of these showed anything controversial at all (ie: Normal pictures) and these stones have been shown when tested to be legitimate. The stones from near Ica have been shown to be false. They even showed in a documentary how to make a proper "Ica stone" replica. It is commonly known in Ica that people now make Hoaxes of the Hoaxes.
has many good sources of both proponent sources and sources against the ideas. I'm not going to list LOTS of sources. You can find them yourself, but I suggest you at least read several from both sides like I did and make a decision based on rationality no matter WHAT the answer is. Whatever you do, don't let your personal emotions get in the way.
@BrellK que pena de leer tu comentario obviamente existen piedras falsas pero también hay piedras que son autenticas y analizadas científicamente comprobadas como autenticas
te falta salir un poco de tu país antes de que tengas que decir que se usen como trampa turística
@afklol26 You know, crop circles are made without airplanes too. They aren't very difficult to make, and while I admit the Nazca lines are no simple feat, there is no need to claim supernatural or alien origins when there is no evidence for it. Just because you don't know the answer, doesn't give you the right to make one up. Argument of Ignorance.
en la actualidad no puedes decirme quien o como se hicieron las líneas con toda la tecnología de hoy en día. Las líneas tienen más de 2000 años y no se pueden apreciar en el suelo necesitas un aeronave para observarlo un poco alucinante verdad? ya que en esa época no existían aeronaves LOL
Por favor NO COMPARES las Líneas de Nazca con un poco de cultivo pisado!.
@afklol26 I'm not saying that they were NECESSARILY done the same way as crop circles. I only pointed out that doing something as complex as a well-made crop circle doesn't take anything more "technological" than a board, rope and surveyors tape (and even the surveyors tape isnt necessary). Your claiming to KNOW the answer to how they were made, but there is no evidence that you are correct. The burden of proof is on you, but there is no evidence to back your claim. You should LookHonestly at it
@BrellK las líneas de nazca se crearon en tiempos que no existían las aeronaves pero aun así aparecieron las líneas en esos tiempos, como entonces se hicieron si solamente se pueden ver desde el aire?
@afklol26 se supone que no habia aeronaves pero aye muchos estorias antiguas en cuales mencionan aeronaves asi que dicendo que no habia porque es lo que te han dicho es una estupides. asta se puede encontrar versos en la bibla versos en libros de India y las tabletas de Sumeria que habian aeronaves en los tiempos antiguas. No todo de lo que aprendes en la escuela es completo.
quote 1:47 - 1:53:"...if man saw dinosaurs in the recent past, evolution is destroyed..."
wrong, it would only mean that some dinosaurs survived the meteorite impact about 66 million years ago and procreated successfully, that's another example for the flawed logic of religion
You can see that Dr Swift isn't very comfortable being in the spotlight. He doesn't do this for fame, he does this for God and the salvation of his fellow men. He is sacrificing his ego for this.
We don't want be unkind, but we want to be factual. We don't want to cause hurt feelings, but we want to be academically correct in what we understand and is known to be true. Religion mainly is not based on truth. Actually, this guy is an idiot!
getting back to the subject of the video, how did they move and carve those blocks? i can see how they might have used trained dinosaurs to move the blocks, but to get that precision in what looks like toffee squashed (heated?) blocks is something else!!
They wouldn't like me because I believe that God is a Divine being which to different cultures can be the Being that they believe in but still the one Divine being. I also believe that aliens have and are visiting the earth and that all the galaxies were made by on Divine being. Why would God waste all that good space. JMO
stormysocks, you believe what evil spirits say. All observed "Aliens" are really just demons. Why would you believe what cursed spirits say? They lie, they trick. I'll tread on snakes and scorpions. For God reigns from his kingdom in heaven. Come to know Jesus, and you will be made whole. He has called us. His sheep know his voice and follow him. Christ, our King, our advocate, the son of the ever living almighty God. The righteous judge of men made the way for us, his blood was shed for us.
Our government used DMT to make contact with demonic forces in 1960, and that contact has never been broken. Angels and demons are real, therefore God is real.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Its odd that no one brings up Extraterrestrials? if you look at the stones and the technology that is carved on them, it is clear they were not Human... in fact they were from a different planet...
I have read the bible, and Christians don't believe there are Aliens or Dinosaurs, there so closed minded and self ego, they believe we are God's greatest creation, & only. they believe the Earth is 6,000 years old LMAO!!!
FACT: Darwin has been proven wrong, he would admit that if he were still alive today(see video). He thought cells were blobs of goo, they are advanced machines, so he's wrong, ha ha!
FACT: The Science community has reasons to bs people, and that's what is going on.
In the end, they're cult followers, or they help to further that cause. For the New World Order.
FACT: After the flood, all the marsupials (sans a few possoms) decided to migrate all the way to Australia together. And the flightless dodo made it's great trek across the sea to the remote island of Mauritius. And the poor kiwi, takahe, and tuatara made their journey across the seas to New Zealand. And none of these animals took up residence anywhere else.
FACT: Bats are birds!
FACT: If you eat pop rocks and then drink soda you will EXPLODE!!
It's more like 95%. why do they believe in evolution? Facts? Nope, they admit it's total b.s. "Evolution is unproved and unprovable. We believe it only because the only alternative is special creation and that is unthinkable." - Sir Arthur Keith
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
You are right. Sir Arthur Keith say so and that's good enough for me. How could I believe in silly stuff like Geology, Biology, DNA experts, Paleontologist and other people who spend their whole lives looking at this stuff.
Theory: A term often used colloquially to refer to any suggested explanation, even fanciful or speculative ones, for an event or class of events. The fanciful and speculative theory of evolution.
Fanciful: Marked by unrestrained imagination, rather than by reason and experience.
Speculation:Theoretical, rather than practical: speculative conclusions.
Evolution is a weak theory.
God was always proven!
Knowing they are sinful, they are unable to comprehend their inevitable eternal judgment.
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
Yawn... You're boring me. How grave of a mistake it is, to forsake the Lord your God. I know for certain, for I have had many experiences, I have left this earth, and talked with the dead. The dead, or eternal living, have contacted me. Angels have contacted me. Jesus Christ has contacted me in 3 dreams. I've personally fought with the Devil's army. Spirits are observed worldwide, the theory of evolution is not ever. That's why it's a weak theory. The trinity is eternal, and our only life.
We were talking about evolution..., until you said quote "OK prove God exists."! If you are seriously this slow, I know why you're busy emailing me, you're not fit to work. Too mentally feeble, a shut in living off of inheritance? If you were a ward of the state you wouldn't have free access to the web would you? I've got better thing to do than prove you're a jackass. You're a bored troll huh? Goodbye.
How do you attenpt to explain with out an explanation?
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
@gregrutz unfortunately even if a theory is no longer plausible in our academia a set of barriers will attempt to keep the accepted theory as long as possible because who wants to have to pay to have new books printed for every science classroom in america. Politics and economics as well as egos play a distinct role in our science community. if you dont believe me look at every new theory that goes public and how the media will bash them and call them crazy stupid etc.
@entity623 And that is why they don't put leading edge research in text books, just the proven facts and theories, like evolution. It has been around for 150 years, a well established fact.
@gregrutz its not a fact unlike you were lead to believe it is in fact a categorized as a theory since the ominous missing link eludes scientists still. that is because its becoming painstakingly apparent that we are genetically engineered master pieces.
@gregrutz every masterpiece has its flaws. Dopa mine deficiency is a product of genetic manipulation. but our genetic anomalies have been further exacerbated due to Genetically Modified Foods we are forced to eat. My point is that even though evolution is a fact the evolutionary path of Humans is non existent. IOW we just popped up all of a sudden with a wealth of knowledge and even language and writing. Its becoming clearer now that this is the case everywhere
@gregrutz DNA refutes it actually. it states modern humans are less than 250k yrs old which means we had about 6million years to evolve from earliest known hominids to what you see now. not only that there are three large races Caucasian Asian and Afrikan. to create just a separation of three races would take millions of years let alone the believed 6-7 MAJOR mutations purposed by HUMAN evolution. there was at some point intervention. all the stories cant be wrong if they point the same way
@entity623 All the races are Homo Sapian Sapians. We are all humans. The same species. We are practically the same as Chimps. Chimps are closer to us than they are to gorillas.
@gregrutz yes in classification we are the same species but we are genetically different in general as races i.e. eye shape and color, skin tone, avg height, hair color hair texture hell even the number of muscles. all used in forensic sciences to determine race. and as for chimps we are 30,000,000 base pairs close that's like saying we earth is close to mars. but i doubt you will be walking there. The information you have is accurate in most ways but ommits much.
@gregrutz i believe my previous statement covers what you just said the 1% equals 30 MILLION base pairs that's like saying i have the same amount and kind of socks you do except for these 30 MILLION over here but lets not count those because I like being right. though its microscopic in physical size but scientifically speaking that is astronomical and some animals look like dogs but they are rodents and explain the platypus for me would you
@entity623 You don't understand % do you. What about the platypus don't you understand? It does not have a bill like a duck, it is leathery. It is a mammal that still lays eggs, what is your problem?
Dogs and rodents have a common ancestory, they should look like each other.
@gregrutz its called satire what I am saying is that the evidence is pointing us to a direction thought to be taboo by our academia its not about finding the truth anymore brother its about egos and politics. Science has intermingled with govt and not in a good way. there is not a search for the missing link because who cares we have enough circumstantial evidence that in a court of law wouldnt hold up but in science its ok.
@entity623 They use markers in DNA in a court of law to prove someones ID all the time. They use the same DNA markers to show who is related to who on Darwin's tree of life.
You don't need me to prove God to you, you can find out for yourself. Get some high grade Salvia 20x extract, L.S.D. and DMT. They work differently. You can prove for yourself once and for all in one day. You really don't need anything but a mind and some Salvia 100x extract. Get a gram for 89 bucks on many sites. Start with high grade leaf though, if you smoked some 100x, you'd wet your pants, after you proved to yourself. Use a packed bong full, inhale for over a minute, and you'll see.
Also, there is 100% NO WAY the Incas successfully performed surgical procedures as complicated as those in modern medicine. People didn't even know about germs back then, and germs alone probably would have killed most of the patients. Bacteria in your brain is not a good thing.
This video reeks of pseudo-scientific claims and outright lies.
Ev3rliving said "Also, there is 100% NO WAY the Incas successfully performed surgical procedures as complicated as those in modern medicine".
Wow 100% NO WAY, that convinces me. To be that sure you must have a way to time travel.
Were you there? Nope, so you are just an idiot. I'll believe their own version of history which they put on those stones as a historic record of the day. For us to know.
Ica stones are real historic records, and so they had dinosaurs and advanced technology.
This argument is so trite, it's actually rather amusing. It's often offered by creationists who have little in the way of a real argument in their favor.
Was I there? No. Do I know when germ theory was discovered? Yes. Was it after the time of the Incas? Yes. Do Incan historical records indicate any knowledge of germs? No. Thus, without even a basic knowledge of biology, any Incan surgical procedures resembling modern ones would have ended in death. QED.
You have shit for brains, so you need to shut up shithead! Ev3rliving says "Germs prove this and that DUH I fling leftover dung at the wall when I've finished eating". All they would have to know about is sterile environments. You don't need to know about germs, to know about medical sterilization. The surgical tools are real, and in some cases better than the equivalent of today. That's evidence and you are proven wrong so shut up. indisputable evidence that you're a moron!
Mummies with sutures, a medical device that surgeons, use to hold skin, internal organs, blood vessels and all other tissues of the human body together, after they have been severed by injury, incision or surgery.
How in the name of hell do you explain away mummies with sutures? You're a Schmuck who denies factual evidence just because it proves against what you believed. New evidence calls for new beliefs Mr. Apeman. You need to evolve. I believe in evolution fact. The theory was incorrect.
Again, this doesn't, in any way, prove that evolutionary theory is incorrect. Nothing anyone discovers that the Inca knew about science or medicine would change that. Again, if this is your argument, you have a grave misunderstanding of science.
Also, I find it difficult to fathom that people who did not know about a germ theory of disease would know about sterilization.
I'm beginning to think I'm being trolled at this point. No one is really this stupid.
first it's "100% NO WAY", than it's "difficult to fathom".. You're somehow indoctrinated to spout too much bs, this is the 21'st century. Spout facts instead! Modern biology and the study of the structure of cells, proves Darwin wrong according to Darwin. That's why you won't find one real expert on cell structure that still believes Darwin's theory. Irreducible Complexity is where science is today. By itself this science, which is observed, proves Darwin false. Bye Bye Evolution Theory!
"That's why you won't find one real expert on cell structure that still believes Darwin's theory."
There must be only about 5 people that truly understand biology then, because that's about the length of the list you'll find of credible scientists that reject the theory of evolution.
Irreducible complexity is not where science is at today. Irreducible complexity is a dead end idea... it offers no additional information about what we observe.
the Incans most likely were guided by angels .. as the book of Enoch, the Bible says there were angels who were supposed to help out humans and guide them n stuff
A MAJOR THESIS OF EVOLUTION: dinosaurs and men did not coexist.
No.
Even if we did find that dinosaurs coexisted with man, this in no way affects evolutionary theory. It merely gives the creationists a little more ground (that's if they can prove it, which this video does unconvincingly).
Of course this effects evolutionary theory. The theory of evolution is a framework that tries to explain observed changes of species over time.
It fails to describe the coherent framework into which observable data fits. The theory is then, actually incorrect.
TBN may not convince a skeptic, because it's a fraud celebrating Satan with the Pope and the president. On this subject of Ica Stones, I can find no fault with their information. It's actually all historically factual in this case.
If the Dukah can domesticate reindeer to help them survive in harsh forests and mountain terrain and also people who have domesticated giant elephants to let us ride them around, is it really that hard to believe that we could have lived along side these reptiles? Yeah i guess we believe whatever we see on the tv. Thats our only documentary to the past... "Jurassic Park and huge scary man-eating dinosaurs... blood everywhere" come on... there were some dinos the size of chickens.
Cave drawings, rock carvings, sea scrolls. These are all evidence of past events best way of writing down/drawing history when there is no possible way of having a video camera to capture this knowledge. Unfortunately the bible's been falsified many times over alot of truth has been blended with myths/ lies to keep you blinded and unable to comprehend. We should pay more attention to these, why would our ancestors work so hard to conceal and save this knowledge for future human beings?
yees sure anything that proves evolution to be nothing but a religous belief is a fraud. wake up to yourself and stop being such a braindead halfwit.what about all the frauds for evolution dont make me laugh you stupid evos.
Why do you quote a Skeptical Dictionary?? Can't you find anyone who isn't completely biased? Skeptics deliberatley set out to disprove these things. Like Ken Feder (who i cannot stand) who slavishly slags off EVERYTHING. There is plenty of evidence proving the Ica Stones are real, but if you only read the skeptical side you'll never see it.
Not all biologists believe that birds are dinosaurs... This group of scientists emphasize the differences between dinosaurs and birds, claiming that the differences are too great for the birds to have evolved from earlier dinosaurs. Alan Feduccia, and Larry Martin, for instance, contend that birds could not have evolved from any known group of dinosaurs.
danephillips 1 day ago
@danephillips Yes but they think they evolved from a different reptile group. Dinosaurs with feathers did not have to die out for modern birds to evolve on a different line of reptiles. Dino did have 3 forward toes, feathers, hollow bone, oval eggs in nests, etc.
gregrutz 1 day ago
The reason for the "dino-bird" and "feathered dinosaur" stories that frequently appear in the evolutionist press is simply an effort on their part to show that their claim that birds evolved from dinosaurs has been proven by fossil discoveries. The fact is, however, that none of these fossils has offered any scientific evidence at all for that claim. What is more,fact is many evolutionists do not believe it either.
danephillips 1 day ago
@danephillips Read some history. The first feathered dinosaur with teeth was found 2 years after Darwin published his book. It was the first transitional fossil and evolution has been accepted ever sense.
Most of the 'missing links' have been found
gregrutz 1 day ago
@gregrutz LOLOLOLOLOL
danephillips 1 day ago
Renowned ornithologists Alan Feduccia and Larry Martin believe that it is totally an erroneous scenario. A college textbook, Developmental Biology reads:
Not all biologists believe that birds are dinosaurs...
danephillips 1 day ago
Also the word dinosaur is a new word really before the term was created, dinosaurs were called dragons .. Chinese calender has all real animals so why have a made up one .Well again the term dinosaur was once called dragon ...
danephillips 2 days ago
@danephillips No little boy, dragons are make believe. We know about dinosaurs from the fossils, the people who study the fossils say they stopped making them 65 million years ago. Dinosaurs do not breath fire. Dinosaurs are tetrapods like you, four limbs. How many does a dragon have counting the 2 wings. 6?
gregrutz 1 day ago
@gregrutz Again you do not have facts you want to blindly believe what ever you told . They found froze dinosaurs in ice .Still with soft tissue ... Impossible for it to be 65 million years. I ask you have you ever seen a dinosuar ? How you know if a dinosaur did not breathe fire.Bombardier beetles produces and stores two reactant chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide .Evolution only makes assumption and you believe them as fact .Pure blind faith you have.
danephillips 1 day ago
@danephillips Do you 'believe' everything these Doctors tell you ? LOL
No they didn't find frozen dinosaurs, they found mammoths.
Yes I have seen a dinosaur, there are many small feathered ones in my front yard.
Creatards always say ''assumption'' but never list them.
Tell me some 'assumptions'
gregrutz 1 day ago
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=w_uWw0k640Y&feature=player_embedded
danephillips 2 days ago
Dinosaur - a large lizard ... Due to great climate change dinosaurs, remember they were just large Lizards are not still here they just smaller .
danephillips 2 days ago
@danephillips No dummy, dinosaurs are not just large lizards. They have there legs under them like birds, not out to the side like crocks and other lizards.
Are you home schooled?
gregrutz 1 day ago
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@gregrutz study of dinosaurs began in the 1820s of England. In 1842, Richard Owen coined the term dinosaur, which he called a large lizard.Before that they were called dragons.THis is history fact.By the way I went to the brain washing of public school ... You accept anything they tell you .You have nothing but blind faith in evolutionary assumption .AGAIN Not all of evolutionary science accept the bird were dinosaur that fact.
danephillips 1 day ago
@warriorprince1010 What flood strata? What is the name of the flood mud layer that covers the whole earth?
gregrutz 2 days ago
Evolution does not say dinosaurs died off, the fossil record shows they died off, but just the big ones, the small ones with feathers are everywhere.
gregrutz 2 days ago
@gregrutz LOLOLOLOL wow you find santa claus there too . Zero evidence bird are dinosuar .In fact most of science reject that.
danephillips 2 days ago
@danephillips Everything you think of as bird-like dinosaurs had: Feathers, hollow bones, warm blood, oval eggs in nests, etc., etc,. etc.
gregrutz 1 day ago
@warriorprince1010 OF COURSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER OPEN A GEOLOGY BOOK, LOOKED AT THE FOSSIL RECORD OR STUDIED SCIENCE.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz Fossil record you are told what they say it means.
danephillips 2 days ago
@danephillips And sometimes they write it down so you can read it. What is your point? Go dig up some fossils and prove them wrong.
gregrutz 2 days ago
@gregrutz Let me ask something have you even been able to draw picture of something you never seen ?? So if dinosaur are 65 million years old .How come Ancient art works show perfect examples of Dinosaur Depictions.Again you cannot make a image of something you never seen.Ancient History also record people like Marco Polo's Account of Dinosaurs .The found fossil with soft tissue soft tissue breaks down after 10,000 years .You been brainwashed by liberals.
danephillips 2 days ago
@warriorprince1010 IF there was a globle flood you would thing it would leave some evidence !?
99% of the species that ever lived are extinct.
Show me a dinosaur. A trilobite? A sabertooth tiger mabe?
gregrutz 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 What is the name of the flood mud layer with all the dead bodies in it? Why does the fossil record show the animals were all different from the animals that are alive today?
gregrutz 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 Explain why most of the animals that ever lived are extinct. Explain dinosaurs ruling the earth for 160 million years.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@warriorprince1010 WHY? Because you can't understand how evolution works?
Same design = same design then different design = different desinger
gregrutz 2 months ago
it is undoubtedly true that dinosaurs lived past the mass extinction but it does not prove or disprove anything other than that the mass extinction wasnt complete extinction. and also it proves the length of time evolution can take since from 65mil yrs ago the dinosaurs did not evolve much as seen on the rocks. it may prove that evolution is not a plausible explanation of mans existence. given further research.
entity623 6 months ago
The minute I heard "The Blood of Jesus Christ covers all" I know that this whole thing are just a pathetic hoax.
Bracerjack 8 months ago
DINOSARZ
GLITTERMAN2000 9 months ago
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ABRADAMUS 1 year ago
THREE HUNDRED, MILLION TONS
rofl
pythor2 1 year ago
Evolution wouldnt be destroyed by dinosaurs walking on the earth last tuesday. You clearly have no idea what the theory of evolution actually is and how it works.
MrRichardQED 1 year ago
LAS PIEDRAS DE ICA SON REALES
Y ALGUNOS CIENTIFICOS LO QUEIREN NEGAR ! ! !
afklol26 1 year ago
"Some of these stones weighed 300 million tons" I'm glad he was allowed to be corrected by the other guy otherwise that might have been the most ridiculous thing I ever heard!
BruceyBoy 1 year ago
This was True sorry Skeptics our History is so wrong its like a Man wearing a Dress!! ..Time to get the True History thats been suppressed by the Freaks at to Top of the Government who run everything secretly.
SwaggerLikeUz 1 year ago
The layering of sedimentary rock during a Flood, I would say, is the only plausible explanation for rock layers. I don't get how rain and dust during millions of years could put down these layers, and certainly I can not fathom how these layers can differ so much from each other and change so abrubtly. Excavators find coal deposits as breathtakingly deep. If these were formed over millions of years, where are new deposits forming today?
joroma77 1 year ago
Why does Carl Baugh say "Inca stones"? He should know better.
joroma77 1 year ago
Two con men at one time. Excellent! One with a fake Ph.D. (Baugh) and Swift received his Doctorate in Theology from the University of South Africa. Swift's "Masters" is from an unaccredited Master's Divinity School Program in Biblical Apologetics. Expert in paleontology my ass. Expert at the con-game, YES.
joelkness 1 year ago
what this guy below me saying that those stone that no crane can move where placed by villagers?
vesperus1981 1 year ago
it is intersting see that the person who made the stones one Basilio Uschuya when investigated said thay were a hoax. then said thay were real then finoly said thay were a hoax again with the quote "Making these stones is easier than farming the land" it is also interesting to note that Vicente Paris in 1998 investigate the stones and found traces of modern paints and abrasives in the etchings. also Basilio showed bbc reporters how he made them. backing in cow dung to fake age
stinkpuppyohno 2 years ago
Let's further note that Uschuya didn't just SAY they were forgeries--he demonstrated HOW he forged, them, on television. Last I checked, he still makes them for tourists.
It's amazing how credulous some Creationists are. Carl Baugh and Don Patton are utter charlatans, and yet people eat up what they say.
brpierce 2 years ago
ok the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the question of dinosour and human coexistance. the reason people do believe thay coexisted is because we have never found any remains that are in the same strata and consiquitly date the same as humans. evolution deals with allilic frequincy within populations of living things. it dosent dicktate when thay die just the variation there in. so even if we found a dinosour today it would not shed light on mutation and natural solection.
stinkpuppyohno 2 years ago
sorry i ment to say " the reason people dont believe they coexisted"
stinkpuppyohno 2 years ago
experamentable? haha love the fake word
stinkpuppyohno 2 years ago
" It is sad that Carl Baugh will 'muddy the water' for many Christians and non-Christians. Some Christians will try to use Baugh's 'evidences' in witnessing and get 'shot down' by someone who is scientifically literate. The ones witnessed to will thereafter be wary of all creation evidences and even more inclined to dismiss Christians as nut cases not worth listening to."
(continued)
brpierce 2 years ago
"Also, the Christian is likely to be less apt to witness, even perhaps tempted to doubt their own faith (wondering what other misinformation they have gullibly believed from Christian teachers). CSF ministers to strengthen the faith of Christians and equip them for the work of evangelism and, sadly, the long term effect of Carl Baugh's efforts will be detrimental to both."
brpierce 2 years ago
Guys, you've got to look at other ancient technologies. It's so exicting. The ancients performed complicated, intricate medical procedures that people think are only modern inventions. What we have to today are really reinventions lost in time due to the collapse of Rome and the destruction of the great library of alexandria. Search for ancient inventions. The Greeks even made a computer device 2,000 years ago. It's truly remarkable. We actually haven't come as far as we like to think.
TenderTrap86 2 years ago
Sirirussly peeplez, the science guys provd that we nver went to luna luna I mean the moon... so why does they still teach evoluton?
FiverBeyond 2 years ago
How to be an evolutionist:
step one: claim everything a creationist says is a hoax...
russellstall 2 years ago
But, they have no evidence.
gregrutz 2 years ago
@russellstall
Not everything...
But the Ica Stones have been debunked over and over again as forgeries.
FiverBeyond 2 years ago
hmmmm
emancoy 2 years ago
Evolution are for fools.
4ProCreation 2 years ago
- Man who has difficulty with grammar.
Kan2209 2 years ago
@4ProCreation i think my creationist friend is trying to say... Evolution IS for fools.
vividDrive 2 years ago
lol
4ProCreation 2 years ago
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Ken Ham doesn't even believe him !
Creationist organizations such as Answers in Genesis have criticized Baugh's claims saying he "muddied the water for many Christians. . . . People are being misled."
Wikipedia
gregrutz 2 years ago
@4ProCreation Apparently, Grammer is for fools as well.
BrellK 1 year ago
I'm sorry ur completely pwnd. But ur completely pwnd. Evolution fails:(
9pt9 2 years ago
Are u bummed there's proof that man and dinos lives together? Im sorry evolution is almost over:(
9pt9 2 years ago
there are some still serviving dinos. lock ness!
Doitonhigh 2 years ago
good bye evolution. And good riddens! God be praised!
9pt9 2 years ago
What a shame the Ica stones are a hoax.
We need proof :(
BrellK 2 years ago
Awe, really? Good thing there are several thousand artifacts and drawings, etc from all over the world that clearly prove men saw dinosaurs:)
9pt9 2 years ago
I'm not truly sure which you would be thinking of specifically but at least most of them that I have seen are not "conclusive proof".
The problem persists though, that even if they DID see Dinosaurs, of course that doesn't disprove evolution, so I'm afraid its here to stay :P
BrellK 2 years ago
We should see thousands of intermediate bird fossils gradually growing longer and longer wings. Where r the bird precursors in the fossil record?? Where r the fossils of animals containing progressively deepening eye sockets as the eyes supposedly evolved?? Why don't we see the radical mutations evolution rigorously espouses producing utilitarian tissue for the construction of new organs and body parts anywhere today? Evolution is an illusionary concept that takes place in the mind only.
9pt9 2 years ago
Dinos and man did coexist. And I agree: evolution is here to stay. As fantastical, unscientific and impossible as it is. It gives the naturalistic athiests justification for rejecting God.
9pt9 2 years ago
What do you think Evolutionists would need to prove it?
Also, what do you think would people need to do to get it to disappear once and for all?
BrellK 2 years ago
If people would just use logic and reason that would b enuff to put it to rest. There should b thousands of intermediate stages of fossils(practically out numbering the complete fully formed fossils we actually see) in the fossil record. Instead we see single celled fossils then Suddenly the Cambrian explosion displaying all fully formed complex animals. We should see thousands of living fish growing legs and arms preparing for a land invasion.
9pt9 2 years ago
it's a hoax? how? you need proof to call it a hoax
gbvegeta 2 years ago
Well the people that sold the Ica stones to the foreigners later admitted that they were faked. That was after a 4 year study that studied micrograph imaging that the stones were made with modern paints and abrasives. Also the erosion of the stones and engraving were not nearly as vast as what would be expected from the age. He was almost thrown in prison and several documentaries showed on film how he committed the fraud. I'd personally call that proof.
BrellK 2 years ago
The stones were first found in 1535 by Father Simon. Look it up buddy.
gbvegeta 2 years ago
yeah but there is more. i dont but for i have see realy make belive that evolition in a 50% or more is fake i know the rock some where fake but other where they didnt look up those man there more than rocks. so idont what is goint to happen in future lets see.
farinango 2 years ago
What?
I hope English isn't your first language.
Please use grammar.
I CANNOT understand you.
BrellK 2 years ago
@BrellK And what was the agenda of the fakers? To store tens of thousands of them in a mansion? You haven't heard the whole story, have you?
joroma77 1 year ago
@joroma77 Oh I don't know, how about MONEY? The man who sold them to the owner of the museum admitted soon after being ARRESTED that he forged them. It's not like he gave them away... he told the physician who bought them that he found them in a cave but never told anyone what cave he found them in. Later, he admitted to making them. He made them so he could sell them to idiotic people who believe in idiotic things, similar to OTHER tourist traps.
BrellK 1 year ago
@BrellK the stones are found in many other countries as well, and their are thousands of them. so i guess the man who sold them was busy huh?
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 The stones can be MOVED from Country to Country. They are small enough to transport. There were stones taken to Spain from Peru in the 16th century, but NONE of these showed anything controversial at all (ie: Normal pictures) and these stones have been shown when tested to be legitimate. The stones from near Ica have been shown to be false. They even showed in a documentary how to make a proper "Ica stone" replica. It is commonly known in Ica that people now make Hoaxes of the Hoaxes.
BrellK 1 year ago
@BrellK can u give me a reference other than talk origins that is a ligetamite process of debunking the stones? that would help alot. thanks.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 pseudoarchaeology. o R g/b03-ross. htm
has many good sources of both proponent sources and sources against the ideas. I'm not going to list LOTS of sources. You can find them yourself, but I suggest you at least read several from both sides like I did and make a decision based on rationality no matter WHAT the answer is. Whatever you do, don't let your personal emotions get in the way.
BrellK 1 year ago
@BrellK que pena de leer tu comentario obviamente existen piedras falsas pero también hay piedras que son autenticas y analizadas científicamente comprobadas como autenticas
te falta salir un poco de tu país antes de que tengas que decir que se usen como trampa turística
afklol26 1 year ago
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@afklol26 You know, crop circles are made without airplanes too. They aren't very difficult to make, and while I admit the Nazca lines are no simple feat, there is no need to claim supernatural or alien origins when there is no evidence for it. Just because you don't know the answer, doesn't give you the right to make one up. Argument of Ignorance.
BrellK 1 year ago
@BrellK maquillaje? make up?
u need leave USA some times
en la actualidad no puedes decirme quien o como se hicieron las líneas con toda la tecnología de hoy en día. Las líneas tienen más de 2000 años y no se pueden apreciar en el suelo necesitas un aeronave para observarlo un poco alucinante verdad? ya que en esa época no existían aeronaves LOL
Por favor NO COMPARES las Líneas de Nazca con un poco de cultivo pisado!.
you need visit Nazca and after we talk
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@afklol26 I'm not saying that they were NECESSARILY done the same way as crop circles. I only pointed out that doing something as complex as a well-made crop circle doesn't take anything more "technological" than a board, rope and surveyors tape (and even the surveyors tape isnt necessary). Your claiming to KNOW the answer to how they were made, but there is no evidence that you are correct. The burden of proof is on you, but there is no evidence to back your claim. You should LookHonestly at it
BrellK 1 year ago
@afklol26 get a green card then go back to taco bell
thoostorm4 7 months ago
@BrellK las líneas de nazca se crearon en tiempos que no existían las aeronaves pero aun así aparecieron las líneas en esos tiempos, como entonces se hicieron si solamente se pueden ver desde el aire?
eso también es otra trampa turística?!
afklol26 1 year ago
@afklol26 se supone que no habia aeronaves pero aye muchos estorias antiguas en cuales mencionan aeronaves asi que dicendo que no habia porque es lo que te han dicho es una estupides. asta se puede encontrar versos en la bibla versos en libros de India y las tabletas de Sumeria que habian aeronaves en los tiempos antiguas. No todo de lo que aprendes en la escuela es completo.
entity623 6 months ago
Yes, well... There is proof of that, you know.
-The Ica Stones have been studied and they have been proven a hoax.
-It did not take a minute with a google to get names of the people involved, do see it yourself.
Even IF ica stones would not be hoax... so what?
They prove that people have a good imagination.
-Or, you'd have to find Human-headed feline, dragons, Unicorns etc..
And if Dinos are a recent animal; where are the fresh bones?
ArmaFennica 2 years ago
I am enjoying this thouroghly. I only wish that this would make it into the mainstream. Spread the Word you guys =)
Zanna6197791 2 years ago
lol
ica stones are a hoax
dariuszskitek 2 years ago
quote 1:47 - 1:53:"...if man saw dinosaurs in the recent past, evolution is destroyed..."
wrong, it would only mean that some dinosaurs survived the meteorite impact about 66 million years ago and procreated successfully, that's another example for the flawed logic of religion
nightshadowblade 2 years ago
he only said that because an evolutionist claimed it would be
don't go calling it flawed logic
insanekoolness 2 years ago
Why don't we find human bones buried with the dinosaurs killed by the flood.
The blood of Jesus Christ conquers all.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You can see that Dr Swift isn't very comfortable being in the spotlight. He doesn't do this for fame, he does this for God and the salvation of his fellow men. He is sacrificing his ego for this.
joroma77 2 years ago
We don't want be unkind, but we want to be factual. We don't want to cause hurt feelings, but we want to be academically correct in what we understand and is known to be true. Religion mainly is not based on truth. Actually, this guy is an idiot!
fineesmendez 2 years ago
You claim this but have no support for your conclusion. I think you are confused. Who is the idiot again?
insanekoolness 2 years ago
Javier Cabrera was the main proponent for these stones, and he claimed that extraterrestrials from the Pleiades made them.
That explanation is as good as the creationists.
Real archaeologists says, however, that the stones are a hoax.
Gumbypotty 2 years ago
"Real" who are you referring to exactly? and why did they claim that it was so?
insanekoolness 2 years ago
'The blood of Jesus Christ' does what?
gregrutz 2 years ago
CLEANSES U OF UR SINS.
howtogetsaved 2 years ago
getting back to the subject of the video, how did they move and carve those blocks? i can see how they might have used trained dinosaurs to move the blocks, but to get that precision in what looks like toffee squashed (heated?) blocks is something else!!
Pulsar205 2 years ago
They can't understand how they moved some stones.....
The really dis-proves evolution !!??! WTF!
gregrutz 2 years ago
They wouldn't like me because I believe that God is a Divine being which to different cultures can be the Being that they believe in but still the one Divine being. I also believe that aliens have and are visiting the earth and that all the galaxies were made by on Divine being. Why would God waste all that good space. JMO
stormysocks 2 years ago
stormysocks, you believe what evil spirits say. All observed "Aliens" are really just demons. Why would you believe what cursed spirits say? They lie, they trick. I'll tread on snakes and scorpions. For God reigns from his kingdom in heaven. Come to know Jesus, and you will be made whole. He has called us. His sheep know his voice and follow him. Christ, our King, our advocate, the son of the ever living almighty God. The righteous judge of men made the way for us, his blood was shed for us.
philochs 2 years ago
Our government used DMT to make contact with demonic forces in 1960, and that contact has never been broken. Angels and demons are real, therefore God is real.
philochs 2 years ago
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
That describes evolutionists
philochs 2 years ago
Its odd that no one brings up Extraterrestrials? if you look at the stones and the technology that is carved on them, it is clear they were not Human... in fact they were from a different planet...
EnchantedOneForever 2 years ago
no aliens came to this planet since the begining of time read the bible it talks about aliens dinosuars everything
ShootAAppleOffMyHead 2 years ago
I have read the bible, and Christians don't believe there are Aliens or Dinosaurs, there so closed minded and self ego, they believe we are God's greatest creation, & only. they believe the Earth is 6,000 years old LMAO!!!
EnchantedOneForever 2 years ago
Research these stones deeper & you will find that they have been proven fake.
Modern products.
asap123123 2 years ago
asap123123. That's not true. Only some of them are not original. Those are called REPLICAS moron.
philochs 2 years ago
Everyone, Please watch this video called:
Questioning evolution theory THIS IS INCREDIBLE
Watch that, then decide for yourself.
FACT: Darwin has been proven wrong, he would admit that if he were still alive today(see video). He thought cells were blobs of goo, they are advanced machines, so he's wrong, ha ha!
FACT: The Science community has reasons to bs people, and that's what is going on.
In the end, they're cult followers, or they help to further that cause. For the New World Order.
philochs 2 years ago
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Zeruv 2 years ago
FACT: The Earth rests on pillars.
FACT: After the flood, all the marsupials (sans a few possoms) decided to migrate all the way to Australia together. And the flightless dodo made it's great trek across the sea to the remote island of Mauritius. And the poor kiwi, takahe, and tuatara made their journey across the seas to New Zealand. And none of these animals took up residence anywhere else.
FACT: Bats are birds!
FACT: If you eat pop rocks and then drink soda you will EXPLODE!!
Zeruv 2 years ago
"Darwin has been proven wrong"
99.98% of scentists accept evolution as a fact.
gregrutz 2 years ago
It's more like 95%. why do they believe in evolution? Facts? Nope, they admit it's total b.s. "Evolution is unproved and unprovable. We believe it only because the only alternative is special creation and that is unthinkable." - Sir Arthur Keith
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
philochs 2 years ago
You are right. Sir Arthur Keith say so and that's good enough for me. How could I believe in silly stuff like Geology, Biology, DNA experts, Paleontologist and other people who spend their whole lives looking at this stuff.
gregrutz 2 years ago
philochs.....you are full of shit.
Evolution was proven 150 years ago.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Yeah... that's why it's called the theory of evolution, because it was proven. Nice try imbecile!
philochs 2 years ago
Theory: A term often used colloquially to refer to any suggested explanation, even fanciful or speculative ones, for an event or class of events. The fanciful and speculative theory of evolution.
Fanciful: Marked by unrestrained imagination, rather than by reason and experience.
Speculation:Theoretical, rather than practical: speculative conclusions.
Evolution is a weak theory.
God was always proven!
Knowing they are sinful, they are unable to comprehend their inevitable eternal judgment.
philochs 2 years ago
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
gregrutz 2 years ago
Yawn... You're boring me. How grave of a mistake it is, to forsake the Lord your God. I know for certain, for I have had many experiences, I have left this earth, and talked with the dead. The dead, or eternal living, have contacted me. Angels have contacted me. Jesus Christ has contacted me in 3 dreams. I've personally fought with the Devil's army. Spirits are observed worldwide, the theory of evolution is not ever. That's why it's a weak theory. The trinity is eternal, and our only life.
philochs 2 years ago
God? I believe in God. I thought we were talking about evolution. Go back to your dreams.
gregrutz 2 years ago
We were talking about evolution..., until you said quote "OK prove God exists."! If you are seriously this slow, I know why you're busy emailing me, you're not fit to work. Too mentally feeble, a shut in living off of inheritance? If you were a ward of the state you wouldn't have free access to the web would you? I've got better thing to do than prove you're a jackass. You're a bored troll huh? Goodbye.
philochs 2 years ago
a theory is an attempt at explaining-not the explanation itself; it is not a truth
Pulsar205 2 years ago
How do you attenpt to explain with out an explanation?
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
gregrutz 2 years ago 2
@gregrutz unfortunately even if a theory is no longer plausible in our academia a set of barriers will attempt to keep the accepted theory as long as possible because who wants to have to pay to have new books printed for every science classroom in america. Politics and economics as well as egos play a distinct role in our science community. if you dont believe me look at every new theory that goes public and how the media will bash them and call them crazy stupid etc.
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 And that is why they don't put leading edge research in text books, just the proven facts and theories, like evolution. It has been around for 150 years, a well established fact.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz its not a fact unlike you were lead to believe it is in fact a categorized as a theory since the ominous missing link eludes scientists still. that is because its becoming painstakingly apparent that we are genetically engineered master pieces.
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 ''we are genetically engineered master pieces.''
I have Parkinson Disease ass hole.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz every masterpiece has its flaws. Dopa mine deficiency is a product of genetic manipulation. but our genetic anomalies have been further exacerbated due to Genetically Modified Foods we are forced to eat. My point is that even though evolution is a fact the evolutionary path of Humans is non existent. IOW we just popped up all of a sudden with a wealth of knowledge and even language and writing. Its becoming clearer now that this is the case everywhere
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 They found the transitional fossils. And they don't need fossils to prove evolution. DNA proves it.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz DNA refutes it actually. it states modern humans are less than 250k yrs old which means we had about 6million years to evolve from earliest known hominids to what you see now. not only that there are three large races Caucasian Asian and Afrikan. to create just a separation of three races would take millions of years let alone the believed 6-7 MAJOR mutations purposed by HUMAN evolution. there was at some point intervention. all the stories cant be wrong if they point the same way
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 All the races are Homo Sapian Sapians. We are all humans. The same species. We are practically the same as Chimps. Chimps are closer to us than they are to gorillas.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz yes in classification we are the same species but we are genetically different in general as races i.e. eye shape and color, skin tone, avg height, hair color hair texture hell even the number of muscles. all used in forensic sciences to determine race. and as for chimps we are 30,000,000 base pairs close that's like saying we earth is close to mars. but i doubt you will be walking there. The information you have is accurate in most ways but ommits much.
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 and dogs have different hair and color and we call them breeds, they are all still dogs.
Humans and Chimps share 96% the same DNA, 98.6% if you don't count repeats.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz i believe my previous statement covers what you just said the 1% equals 30 MILLION base pairs that's like saying i have the same amount and kind of socks you do except for these 30 MILLION over here but lets not count those because I like being right. though its microscopic in physical size but scientifically speaking that is astronomical and some animals look like dogs but they are rodents and explain the platypus for me would you
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 You don't understand % do you. What about the platypus don't you understand? It does not have a bill like a duck, it is leathery. It is a mammal that still lays eggs, what is your problem?
Dogs and rodents have a common ancestory, they should look like each other.
gregrutz 6 months ago
@gregrutz its called satire what I am saying is that the evidence is pointing us to a direction thought to be taboo by our academia its not about finding the truth anymore brother its about egos and politics. Science has intermingled with govt and not in a good way. there is not a search for the missing link because who cares we have enough circumstantial evidence that in a court of law wouldnt hold up but in science its ok.
entity623 6 months ago
@entity623 They use markers in DNA in a court of law to prove someones ID all the time. They use the same DNA markers to show who is related to who on Darwin's tree of life.
They have found all the missing links.
gregrutz 6 months ago
"God was always proven!"
OK prove God exists.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You don't need me to prove God to you, you can find out for yourself. Get some high grade Salvia 20x extract, L.S.D. and DMT. They work differently. You can prove for yourself once and for all in one day. You really don't need anything but a mind and some Salvia 100x extract. Get a gram for 89 bucks on many sites. Start with high grade leaf though, if you smoked some 100x, you'd wet your pants, after you proved to yourself. Use a packed bong full, inhale for over a minute, and you'll see.
philochs 2 years ago
@philochs You can't prove a god and you can't prove your god is the one true god either. Keep trying.
gregrutz 6 months ago
No they proved it a few months ago with Ida the lemur
joroma77 2 years ago
Ida was not a lemur, so what ever they proved does not hold up.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Also, there is 100% NO WAY the Incas successfully performed surgical procedures as complicated as those in modern medicine. People didn't even know about germs back then, and germs alone probably would have killed most of the patients. Bacteria in your brain is not a good thing.
This video reeks of pseudo-scientific claims and outright lies.
Ev3rliving 3 years ago
Ev3rliving said "Also, there is 100% NO WAY the Incas successfully performed surgical procedures as complicated as those in modern medicine".
Wow 100% NO WAY, that convinces me. To be that sure you must have a way to time travel.
Were you there? Nope, so you are just an idiot. I'll believe their own version of history which they put on those stones as a historic record of the day. For us to know.
Ica stones are real historic records, and so they had dinosaurs and advanced technology.
philochs 3 years ago
This argument is so trite, it's actually rather amusing. It's often offered by creationists who have little in the way of a real argument in their favor.
Was I there? No. Do I know when germ theory was discovered? Yes. Was it after the time of the Incas? Yes. Do Incan historical records indicate any knowledge of germs? No. Thus, without even a basic knowledge of biology, any Incan surgical procedures resembling modern ones would have ended in death. QED.
Ev3rliving 3 years ago
You have shit for brains, so you need to shut up shithead! Ev3rliving says "Germs prove this and that DUH I fling leftover dung at the wall when I've finished eating". All they would have to know about is sterile environments. You don't need to know about germs, to know about medical sterilization. The surgical tools are real, and in some cases better than the equivalent of today. That's evidence and you are proven wrong so shut up. indisputable evidence that you're a moron!
philochs 3 years ago
Mummies with sutures, a medical device that surgeons, use to hold skin, internal organs, blood vessels and all other tissues of the human body together, after they have been severed by injury, incision or surgery.
How in the name of hell do you explain away mummies with sutures? You're a Schmuck who denies factual evidence just because it proves against what you believed. New evidence calls for new beliefs Mr. Apeman. You need to evolve. I believe in evolution fact. The theory was incorrect.
philochs 3 years ago
Again, this doesn't, in any way, prove that evolutionary theory is incorrect. Nothing anyone discovers that the Inca knew about science or medicine would change that. Again, if this is your argument, you have a grave misunderstanding of science.
Also, I find it difficult to fathom that people who did not know about a germ theory of disease would know about sterilization.
I'm beginning to think I'm being trolled at this point. No one is really this stupid.
Ev3rliving 3 years ago
first it's "100% NO WAY", than it's "difficult to fathom".. You're somehow indoctrinated to spout too much bs, this is the 21'st century. Spout facts instead! Modern biology and the study of the structure of cells, proves Darwin wrong according to Darwin. That's why you won't find one real expert on cell structure that still believes Darwin's theory. Irreducible Complexity is where science is today. By itself this science, which is observed, proves Darwin false. Bye Bye Evolution Theory!
philochs 2 years ago
"That's why you won't find one real expert on cell structure that still believes Darwin's theory."
There must be only about 5 people that truly understand biology then, because that's about the length of the list you'll find of credible scientists that reject the theory of evolution.
Irreducible complexity is not where science is at today. Irreducible complexity is a dead end idea... it offers no additional information about what we observe.
Nothing you have said proves evolution false.
Ev3rliving 2 years ago 2
the Incans most likely were guided by angels .. as the book of Enoch, the Bible says there were angels who were supposed to help out humans and guide them n stuff
XvBiBleMaNvX 2 years ago
A MAJOR THESIS OF EVOLUTION: dinosaurs and men did not coexist.
No.
Even if we did find that dinosaurs coexisted with man, this in no way affects evolutionary theory. It merely gives the creationists a little more ground (that's if they can prove it, which this video does unconvincingly).
Ev3rliving 3 years ago
Of course this effects evolutionary theory. The theory of evolution is a framework that tries to explain observed changes of species over time.
It fails to describe the coherent framework into which observable data fits. The theory is then, actually incorrect.
TBN may not convince a skeptic, because it's a fraud celebrating Satan with the Pope and the president. On this subject of Ica Stones, I can find no fault with their information. It's actually all historically factual in this case.
philochs 3 years ago
3 steps to hart surgery:
-cut open the chest of the sacrifice
-tear out the hart while keeping it beating.
- drink blood or spill it to a the god is question.
ya REALLY advanced.
oh w8. so because the ancient people where idiots. (which is just stupid to say)
THE BIBLE MUST BE TRUE!!......w8 does that make sense? lemmi read up on that...
/flipping through new testament.
thinkppl 3 years ago
If the Dukah can domesticate reindeer to help them survive in harsh forests and mountain terrain and also people who have domesticated giant elephants to let us ride them around, is it really that hard to believe that we could have lived along side these reptiles? Yeah i guess we believe whatever we see on the tv. Thats our only documentary to the past... "Jurassic Park and huge scary man-eating dinosaurs... blood everywhere" come on... there were some dinos the size of chickens.
DezVonD 3 years ago
Cave drawings, rock carvings, sea scrolls. These are all evidence of past events best way of writing down/drawing history when there is no possible way of having a video camera to capture this knowledge. Unfortunately the bible's been falsified many times over alot of truth has been blended with myths/ lies to keep you blinded and unable to comprehend. We should pay more attention to these, why would our ancestors work so hard to conceal and save this knowledge for future human beings?
DezVonD 3 years ago 2
yees sure anything that proves evolution to be nothing but a religous belief is a fraud. wake up to yourself and stop being such a braindead halfwit.what about all the frauds for evolution dont make me laugh you stupid evos.
bradandnicole 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure this was already proven to be a hoax by a brilliant entrepreneur who knew that you creation freaks will by anything.
jcatlett1976 3 years ago 3
the only hoax is you you braindead halfwit darwinist.
bradandnicole 3 years ago
These are almost as funny as Monte Python.
minggnim 3 years ago
the ica stones have already been debunked.... check out the skeptics dictionary
crk4130 3 years ago
Why do you quote a Skeptical Dictionary?? Can't you find anyone who isn't completely biased? Skeptics deliberatley set out to disprove these things. Like Ken Feder (who i cannot stand) who slavishly slags off EVERYTHING. There is plenty of evidence proving the Ica Stones are real, but if you only read the skeptical side you'll never see it.
danielhbk01 3 years ago
yes skeptics apocalypse be upon you. you braindead halfwit evolutionist.