Gaining Respect and Control On The Ground - Series II

[chrisvpena]

is my 21month old paint filly too young for this ?

[johnharrer]

@chrisvpena This would be perfect for a your filly. She'll be so calm and broke by the time you're ready to ready, you won't believe it!

[1333ilovebreyers]

if where to do the run up and rub excersice, but your horse ran off, what would you do to get them again? do you hold a lounge line when doing this with a more skittish horse? thanks!

[johnharrer]

@1333ilovebreyers Yes. You have them on a long line and you start with low intensity and gradually build up. And, of course, this is done after they've learned the first series of exercises.

[xKornCatx]

oh man i am NOT looking forward to the 'running up and rubbing' exercise....my horse is going to kill me hahaha

[johnharrer]

@xKornCatx It's spooky the first time you do it...then you just feel like an idiot

[MagnoliaDreaming]

Can you buy Clint's ground-work DVDs without buying the riding DVDs? I ride classical dressage and just want the ground-work part of his program lol.

[johnharrer]

@MagnoliaDreaming You used to be able to get them separately but not anymore. Now they are packaged with the riding exercises as Fundamental, Intermediate, and Advanced. You may want to try ebay for a used copy. We were watching Dressage Symposium (a video with Conrad Schumacher from 1999) on RFD last night and we recognized many of the same RIDING skills we need in western riding. Good luck.

[MagnoliaDreaming]

@johnharrer Thanks; a good friend of mine has some of his groundwork DVDs so I might borrow some from her. My mare is extremely independent and super reluctant to even attempt joining up - I have my work cut out for me but she's a great horse.

[xKornCatx]

@johnharrer i think it sucks that they won't let you buy the dvds seperately anymore :( i've already spent a lot of money on the groundwork exercises and i dont want to buy the entire fundamental series just to get the riding dvds too so that i'll have double copies of the ground exercises :'( waaaaa guess i better search around on ebay huh

[johnharrer]

@xKornCatx Yeah. I think one of the reasons was because people weren't buying the whole package and trying to start from the middle. You can't do that if they are all bundle together. They need a lay-away program ;>)

[jonnomacca]

not chancing the plastic bag lol

[yahamagirl160]

how did u get ur horse to flex like that?

[johnharrer]

@yahamagirl160 Pressure and release - and lots of practice.

[xxBlackVeilBridexx]

Hi John. I'm currently in the process of buying a new reining show horse. I am seriously considering this one appaloosa. He's absolutely great. The only problem i have with him is that he's in no way respectful. He's never really recieved any affection because his owner has around 8 more horses and all he does is show them. Which excercises should i use? Also, he's EXTREMELY spooky. I'm not sure how to go about desensitizing

[johnharrer]

@xxBlackVeilBridexx I worked Jessie in the roundpen in 3 sessions before I made the decision to buy her. I wanted to know a)how quickly she could learn and exercise, b)how quickly she learned to respect my space, and c)if she would join up with me.Even though she had had some training I started at the beginning - desensitizing w/stick & string, yld hnd1/4s, lungeing stg. 1, and flexing. These 4 exercises should give you that information.

[horsesrockkdv]

Hey John, I have watched many of your videos and I think you have done okay with Clinton's methods, MUCH better than most people I've seen on Youtube. Some things that you could consider is asking Jessie to put forth more effort!!! Some exercises she does she looks as though she is only half trying. Remember your horses will put forth as much effort as you expect them to.

[johnharrer]

@horsesrockkdv You're right. We've been working on that and have improved, although it remains one of my top five challenges. One of the benefits of recording our training is being able to see things like that and make the necessary adjustments. It's funny, I can demand more effort from my wife's horse with no problem, but with Jessie it's a more difficult. Thanks for the kind words and the advice. We'll keep working at it..

[hyperfocus2011]

hoe old is that horse

[johnharrer]

@hyperfocus2011 She was nine at the time of this video.

[johnharrer]

@hyperfocus2011 she was nine at the time of this video.

[sierahorsefree]

so this may work great on quarter horses, but i have a 8 year old throughbred that only responses with harder not so nice methods, such as crops and whips.. he wouldn't stand nicely like this horse does and when i go to catch him in the pasture he runs and trys kicking me, kinda scary.. he thinks he is the boss.. i need help!

[johnharrer]

@sierahorsefree Clinton says this Method works on any type horse. I bet if you started at the beginning you would be amazed at not only how much your horse learns, but how much you learn, too.

[jauquiene]

Dear John you and Jessie have done an excellent job together. Looks as if both of you are having a good time. I record and watch all of Clinton Andersons training videos I can off Rfd TV. Like others who commented, I'd love to own his collection but they are a bit expensive. It's nice to see somebody take what they've learned and do it is well as you have. Great job and good job of filming. I sure enjoyed watching

[gypsyhorsedreamer]

Great Videos! Great Job, beautiful horse :) These will help me to train my new 3yr old Paint who has been started but not broken yet. I really appreciate your help.

[Ghorseyluver]

where did you get the lead rope? Its for sale clinton andersons website..but its $70...which I am not paying for a rope :( I am trying to find a similar lead rope...without the price. Not sure what to look for as far as material.....weight..etc...

[johnharrer]

@Ghorseyluver Yeah, is products seem expensive, but I think they are worth it. I bought my lead 5 yrs ago and it's still in good shape. Think about the halter, lead, and NWC membership combo-85 bucks and you get a month on the site.If you want your own rope, check out the hardware store for nylon, yachting rope it will have the closest weight and feel to what they use over at downunder. I made my own mecates this way. Good luck.One more thing-they do run specials often so check his site.

[horseloverZB]

That was amazing! You are so good with her! I want to train my gelding with Clinton Anderson methods, but the DVD's cost too much :(

[johnharrer]

@horseloverZB Hey ZB, I just found a site called giddyupflix where you can RENT DVDs (just like Net flix only for horses! Seems affordable.

[horseloverZB]

@johnharrer Thank You! I am going to look at that site right now! :)

[louiseiiid]

Enthralling and inspiring.... I can't wait to try it all out.

[journey820]

Awesome, love it! Clinton Anderson has always been one of my favorite trainers. His methods are clear cut and make so much sense (to me and the horse!) That's a fine horse you've got there. Good work!

[BarnRat14]

thanks so much for the vids. theyve been really helpful. I've been working with a new 4 yr old who obviously hadn't had much groundwork experience. I'm going to try these techniques along with John lyons round penning techniques. hopefully he'll turn out to be a good horse :). as for now he's a bit head shy and also gets easily distracted from the task at hand... he also has stopping issues when we ride past the gate.

[curiosityshop]

horses must think we're complete idiots with exercises like that xD

[johnharrer]

@ktbanks01 Thanks, Katie. Good luck with the Thoroughbred!

[homeedconnect]

Thanks for the info! Great idea.

[prancer1995]

Jesse is gonna be a great horse.

[homeedconnect]

I love watching you go through the exercise. I would love to see the exercise taught to a horse that doesn't know the routine, yet. Guess I'll have to get the Clinton Anderson DVDs :) Nice job with Jessie and great camera work. Thanks.

[johnharrer]

@homeedconnect Here's another solution. If you join the Downunder No Worries Club (I think it's $20/month) you can download the old tv shows. In the early years Clinton used to make shows out of his tour stops. I loved those. You'll get to see him start with a horse that "doesn't know the routine" and move to the finished product. I think one of the shows was in PA., although there should be several of them. It's a great value. You can buy one month at a time.

[hottycbr]

You have done a fantastic job :) and thankyou so much for sharing these videos, i have learnt so much from watching them ^_^

[johnharrer]

@hottycbr Thanks for the kind words. They mean a lot to me. - john

[pharlap91]

Wow, this is the first ground work video I've seen on here - but Jessie does very well in these exercises, I am sure it took time to get to this point! Great work! I'll have to look into these Clinton DVDs!!!

[katrinalablover]

You and Jessie do really good

[BarrelRacer955]

Jessie is looking good. :D I use Clintons methods also, they work very good. :D

[Everhopinghorses]

Great job!

[Everhopinghorses]

Amazing job!

[TaylorRunyon]

You have done an amazing job with Jessie. :)

I'm working with my new Thoroughbred filly, and I've been looking into some Clinton Exercises. All of his horses seem to have had good results. In your horse's cases, great results. Great job. :)

[johnharrer]

Thanks. Good luck with your filly.

[SsSexyNnNig]

Looks like a smaller version of my horse - although mine has little respect (well im not sure but hes starting to get stuborn) for me atm - as we have had him a week and a bit.

[barehorsetraining]

Man, people find the stupidest things to argue over on youtube. If you don't want to protect your horses legs then don't bother booting them. Gosh.

[Megsweety1]

The boots are there to just support the horses legs from them over stepping and like clipping themselves with their hind Legs. And it doesnt hurt to work with them it gets the horses use to lots of diffrent types of things. And most NH trainers like Parelli and others would recommend it.

[MioHorse]

That's great. I just got my new mare yesterday, and I still haven't ridden her. I wanted to do some groundwork with her first.

[MioHorse]

What's the problem with boots on a horse for groundwork?

[johnharrer]

Good luck!

[SighMyLifeWithHorses]

Great job! im so looking forward to getting my dvds and starting this with my horse.

[GunsandRoses96]

LOL no you make a good point I was working with him tonight and every time he did something wrong like eat a chuck of grass while I wasnt looking i pulled his head up and made him back up

[GunsandRoses96]

oh if I piont my finger at him and say no do you think that would confuse him

[johnharrer]

I don't think it will confuse him, I'm just not sure it will be effective. Have you ever seen ANY horse clinician point and say "no"? I can't remember seeing anyone do it. I think they all use some other more effective means of getting their point across. But, if it works for you, then it's effective.

[GunsandRoses96]

WOW she is wonderful do u think I could retrain my 14 year old Arab and how do u diciplan your horse is bumping them on the nose bad do u have a certain way to tell your horse no or bad girl

[johnharrer]

When my horse does something I don't like I move her feet in some way: Forward, back, left or right.

[trotter103]

Great job! Bet she does great under saddle too!

[johnharrer]

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[bhicks725]

Your doing a wonderful job with Jessie and she's a nice looking horse. You guys understand each other really well. Only one thing i think you should change is to put boots on all her feet cause she can learn to work off her front quarters instead of her hind quarters.

[jakephelps01981]

I don't know squat about training horses, but come on, boots for ground work? I have a feeling that Clinton gets a healthy commision from Legacy for selling those boots. I have no doubt they are helpful when training for and competing in performance horse activities, and you have to get them used to having stuff on their legs during ground work, but if my horse gets a suspensory injury from ground work I would have to wonder if he would ever be a strong sound horse.

[jakephelps01981]

hey don't get me wrong though, I think he is a good trainer and teacher. I'm not trying to run anyone down. I am on here trying to see some more of his teachings! And I'm quite sure that putting the boots on wouldn't hurt a thing, but at $140 a pair is kind of steep for me. I just haven't ever bought into buying all that crap, anyone that thought that ground training without boots would hurt their horse would probably put turnout blankets on it and feed it supplements all the time.

[1HorseLoverGirl]

Great job John!! Can I send you Cisco when ur done with Jesse? LOL!! I am still working on it and although we are not as far as you I see improvements in him all the time. Keep it up, I luv seeing how your doing.

[jenlynne4474]

how long do you spend with your horse weekly to accomplish this? I work full time but would still like to bond with my horse.

[johnharrer]

I work full-time too. I trail ride for a couple of hours each weekend day. I do ground work 15-30 min at a time before riding. During the week I would try to get in 3 15-30 minute groundwork session. Sometimes that meant getting up at 6 am in the summer. (Those were some of our best workouts)

[freedomstrengthhope]

Thanks a lot, just seeing you do these exercises helps me. Where do you buy this DVD, I haven't heard of it before, but I know it will work wonders on my horse. Thanks so much for sharing :D!

[JessicaLynnGardner]

WOW! Good job! She is doing well and so are you. :)

[johnharrer]

Thanks!

[ILoveDrimi]

WOW! You guys are doing awsome! I hope my appendix mare will be able to be that good! we will have to get to work! Nice job.

[sinjon10]

I've been trying some of that Downunder Horsemanship stuff with my Quarter horse Throughbred. Hes not quite as good as your "Jessie" hoss there, but hes an older horse. Hes comming along. Slowly, but were making progress, he hasn't been rode or properly exercised for 5 years because his old owner died and then i got him. Your doin a great job thar.

[johnharrer]

Thanks for the kind words!

[emeraldrosephoto]

@johnharrer did you start these on a lead rope like you do here or did you have a round pen, I find it hard to find somebody starting out with out a roundpen.

[lgordon946]

Hey John! Great video; all you need to do is wear a bright blue, pink or salmon shirt and we won't be able to tell the difference between you and Clinton!

[johnharrer]

Thanks.  I need that big belt buckle too. Can you buy one of those? ;>)

[daveysbaby23]

YAY!! (clapping wildly!) Jessie doesn't have the snarly attitude my mare does, but I see some of the same obstacles we have to deal with. Thank you for sharing! This is also very encouraging for me. I love her look when you're doing the slap and walk. My mare yawns!! Oh, and I know what you mean about learning the right pressure - me too! It just makes me feel closer to her that I know her so well.

[TxRopinCowgirl]

Both of you are doing awesome!

Great job!

[SighMyLifeWithHorses]

its great to see people love and care so much for their horses they'll give up their time for them. God Bless

[naulaaprillia]

Great job as allways :)