Much of what I've seen of 52 blocks technique could theoretically be very effective at close quarters, especially in a defensive sense. Keeping the elbows tight and deflecting shots using earmuffs (I don't know how else to describe it) is a basic maneuver that I don't see enough people use, likely because it seems to open up the body, but does a great job protecting the head. Against the cage, you can be deflective dirty boxing shots while whipping elbows at your opponent.
seems like an interesting style of art, i havent really seen much of it, i would like to see more, and truely see the art go up against a real fight and see how it bares. Then can i truley judge whether it is effective or not, but right now seems cool dont really know if its crap or good.
Proabably pete and joe u guys should watch the Joe Frasier video. If 52 is bullshit why are proffesional fighters and Famous teachers like Reno Morales praising and using it? I have said this before but i think it illustrates a good point. Zab Judah has made millions of dollars fighting,( how much have u made pete?), he used 52 in a fight with his toughest competition. Nuff Said.
Thank you for the compliment! The only thing I'm acting like I know is Mayweather does not use this crap and 52 blocks is bullshit which happens to be the truth.
It really amazes me to see people speak in such ignorance. A case could be made against almost every martial art based on the things you've said. Every art has its strengths and weakness. There isn't one thats better than another. Thats up to the individual. What works for one person may not for another. To say its "bullshit" though is to try to devalue this form to elevate yourself. If you can't tell by the replies no one looks at you as elevated or enlightend.
You are an idiot jayceblk! How are you going to tell me why I'm calling something bullshit? I am not calling this bullshit to try to " elevate" myself I'm calling it bullshit because it is! Though the pull up bar stuff is pretty cool! 52 is ineffective when it comes to fighting actual fighters! Please prove me wrong if I am show me a video of someone using 52 in a real fight and winning. Just don't give me the it looked Mayweather uses it crap give me actual proof!
Your anger tells me I struck a nerve. However I think FarisDaniel said it best already. Hopefully we can see it on You Tube afterwards. For now I rest my case.
My anger? Now you're trying to tell me my emotional state? What an idiot! One more thing let's see you make a "case" against bjj based on the things i've said.
Sigh. What is a "REAL FIGHTER"? Do you even know? The case is that you could brand anything you don't understand as false, therefore showing ignorance. BJJ is a great art to but its hard to do to someone who is blocking your grappling attempts and pounding your head into the dirt. I'm actually more interested in your definition of what a real fighter is.
A real fighter is someone who is good at fighting and PROVES it in my opinion. You know someone who has videos to back it up not just talking and "sparring" with their students. And when you talk about bjj you act like there's only one way to take someone down and that's shooting for the legs. The truth is there are many ways to take someone down.
When I say proves it I don't just mean having videos but they have some way of proving like be willing to spar with you to prove it or other ways. Yes Dan Inosanto is a great fighter but George Dillman are you fucking kidding me??!!! Watch the video of one of his students who do that " death touch " crap it proves that he is full of shit! His " death touch " only works on his students.
This is a joke. Notice how none of these guy's are fighting. They have people throw slow staged punches that my grandma could block.These guys are all NY street hustlers trying to scam some money. The shoulder role is a commen experinced boxer's move that is a natural defense mechanisim fast fighter's use. Mayweather&Toney millionaire world champs did not copy these street hustler's. I am a former amataure boxer and these guys are not fooling me or anybody that knows fighting.
I love what your doin. This is some thing that can save a generatino of youg black youth through mind body soul dicipline. Its also something they can be proud of that they can claim as their owne. Every youg brotha that I show The 52 Block videos to get fired up. Thaks for preservin tha art. Evolution is the key!
Hell yeah, should be interesting to see an actual match. I would love to see how 52 would fare against good old western boxing or Muay Thai on standup.
I mean why the hell not? Big props to these cats for being willing to step up and not hide behind the old "this doesn't work in the ring, this is for the street only" excuse. Really cool to see white cats doing this, always love to see black and white working together. Peace.
Well we will see when a person CLAIMING 52 BLOCKS as their style enters the MMA world how effective it is in that sport. Which in my opinion is the closest we've seen a sport get to actual street fighting. We'll see.
I read that quote too kevin. I belive farisi said that Mayweather knows 52. His pops and uncle was both locked up and that defense he was using damn near impenatrable.
Did anybody see the Mayweather-Hatton fight? Did anybody witness how Mayweather used his elbow to stop Hatton from clinching him? Even Hatton, which I won't take anything away from, said that Mayweather was better inside with all the elbows, shoulders, and forearms that he used. This is for all those who doubt the effectiveness of the 52 system.
Don't get me wrong-- some of the parries and elbow strikes I've seen in 52 Blocks look like they'd be great supplements to my game. However, some of the other things I've seen in 52 Blocks are a little less straightforward-- for example, some of movements starting at around 1:28 in the video.
I was simply interested in seeing it pressure tested against a more common MMA opponent. When I saw the title of the video, I got really excited, but was disappointed to see that it wasn't actual matches.
What does 52 Blocks offer in terms of defense against kicking attacks? And what about takedown defense?
The video doesn't really show a whole lot-- are there any videos of 52 Blocks practitioners fighting against other styles? Especially the common MMA styles of Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, and Jiu-Jitsu?
No examples of footwork, entries, and efficient delivery system for the blocks, traps and locks.
and I don't see any groundwork. Anyone with a decent BJJ game will have you armbarred within 2 seconds. Looks like bad Silat/Empty hand FMA/Wing Chun.
XC u really dont have a clue do u? Have you seen the video with Joe Frasier? Do u watch any of these videos or do u just comment arbitrarily? 52 is boxing!
Because a style consisting of only elbow defence is like swimming with your arms only, or sprinting with your legs only. It's hardly a style. Ican guarantee you that lyte burly guy has had boxing training if not training in other forms, yet he does not teach boxing footwork. Nor does he credit boxing. Else his videos would be called 52 with boxing footwork and other styles.
What does doing pull ups have to do with 52 anyways?? I fail to see the connection. A fighter trains all parts of his body, pull ups are important but will never be as important as skipping or running or your basic pad work...
Jesus, why does no one stand up for muay thai here? Muay Thai's elbows are no less if not more than this style. It doesn't even seem like there's any clinch work done for this...whatever it is. A good clincher will destroy chances for any elbow strikes coming from an inferior clincher.
With any fighting style, if you practice it hard enough, been into enough situations where you had to fight a certain way, or you're a competitive fighter, you're going to get real good at it. I see a lot of talk about it won't work in a MMA setting, but you wouldn't know that UNLESS you had to face someone that's real good at it. It may look corny to some MMA fighters, but you never know. A lot of fighting styles are deceptive.
52 Blocks looks like a good style. It seems that the elbowing and blocking maneuvers are highly evolved. I would learn it to increase my elbow and blocking techniques (I do Muay Thai/Boxing/Jiu Jitsu). Some of the criticizers of 52 seem to miss the point...I agree that in and of itself it wouldn't do much in an MMA competition BUT it would be an excellent SUPPLIMENT to make someone a more complete martial artists.
This style is very impressive,its got a amazing rhythmic flow to it and looks like itd be great for counters.I hope you guys take this as far as it can go and if you et the chance id love to learn some more about in a conversation.
So if someone is downing the style its automatically racest? True some people are name calling but just because someone is saying that an art from a certain race is ineffective doesn't make it raciest.
True indeed snappyface. If u notice the two gentleman representing these 52 videos that are up everywhere(FarisiDaniel and Lyte Burly) are both quite respectful and humble. I dont belive i have seen either of them curse or discriminate racially against anyone.
I hope that you can get enough well balanced people in your corner to keep your technique growing. It does not help when you get black racist people on your side, it stirs up the white racist people and then these boards turn into kindergarten commentary.
snappy that is a bunch of bullshit. Cowardly white bigots are constantly posting racist comments on almost all the 52 block videos because they can do it anonmously and from the saefty of their homes. Regardless of who developed thye system and their views on whites you have to judge the art on its effectiveness. Thai ppl for a long time refused to even acknowledge western muay thai practioners, that didnt stop ppl from all raxces learning the art.
Those cowardly white bigots could just as easily be cowardly black bigots. Sportfighting is a sport not a hate crime, ignore the stupid ass comments made my the racists but also represent yoursel in a way that commands respect. Thats all I was trying to say.
I think that if you or anyone for that matter is going to turn your technique into an art then you must start by putting all racism aside. I have looked at all of the 52 block videos on youtube and what I am seeing is another conflict regarding white/black. I think that a lot of non black people are getting the impression that this system was developed in prison by black panther types who hate white people.
I think I am the only MMA firghter that looked at this. I'm a Professional MMA Fighter and think that this style might be good on the street but as a style to use against trained fighters will be no good.
Musical preference is a matter of taste. Fighting is a matter of winning or losing. If this technique is good or bad then it will only take 1 good fighter to prove it. Will it take 20 years for someone to be good enough at 52 blcoks to make it to the top? Race is nothing, move on with your life.
Everything is mental. When you train it's mental when fight its mental. You train so that when you fight your shit is second nature. I get the feeling that the naysayers thing that when you fight...
All of you naysayers need to cop the Show and Prove joint and your questions will be answered. If you're a thinker and you've been in a real fight then you should understand.
1st off ide like to see some fights out of you guys useing your skill of the 52 blocks. some of the things ive seen have been just pads and not meny fights. i think the only way you guys can prove your selfs is to fight.
Yo ive been tryin to learn bout this technique but its REALLY hard to belive it works when nobody has proof...thers no vids on it being effective, like full contact sparing if anything... not to hate but i need to see it at work because most of it looks like u can just side step pivot jab followed by a head kick and the fight is over
Wow, Im impressed I have to admit I didn't give this style all that much credit. I've trained in martial arts but not the traditional type like TKD or karate I've trained in Guerilla style hand to hand combat. I really don't know if anyone is familiar with it. But it's a lot similar to 52 Blocks except 52 Blocks seems more of a modern era version I woudl really enjoy to train with any of this finely skilled fighters. I look forward to seeing any more progress.
truth about the matter is.If you have never been to prison or in any real hood in the old hoods than you probly dubt the 52 blocks.Some one left a comment about a person with more reach if you understand what is at the root of 52 blocks you would understand that it is a protection style built upon hand, eye, speed and rythem. main focus is to destroy a striker with block and sharp blows reach or no reach
but MMA fighters understand body control in all areas not just bicep control and elbow blocks, and people with judo will throw you to the ground and if that doesn't knock you out in a street inviroment then the jiu jitsu back round will end you with a choke, arm lock, leg lock, neck crank or many other types of submissions... i believe 52 blocks is nice for stand up fighting but against an mma judo/jiu jitsu player 52 blocks will be ripped apart
ummm... it looks all fun and good and there's no doubt you all have tremendous upper body strength and in defending against some one with no martial art experience i believe 52 blocks will work...
I don't mean any personal offense to the gym or its fighters, but I just dont understand why they think elbows strikes and forearm blocks are so revolutionary. I wish them the best.
I dont see any future in this 52 blocks in a professional arena. Ive been watching these 52 blocks videos on youtube for almost and hour now and all I keep thinking is "that guy would eat my knees all day long". Yea maybe this might work on prison thugs but this style leaves so many opening for an experience fighter. Just watch any Muay thai or savate fight. While these dudes play chicken wing ill step back and collapse your ribcage or take your legs out from under you.
I bet u that "nigger" on crack could put a beating on you worse then ya pops did. 52 was born out of a need to survive, in slave days and in prison...so let me see u survive a day in those conditions b
The discussion wasn't about surviving slave days and prison. It was about the effectiveness of the style. I think it seems to apply to close quarter combat like a prison setting, but it has limitations. As for the guy putting a beating on me- anything can happen, but I'd be ready. I train kickboxing, wrestling, and BJJ at Team Quest, and I have a brown belt in Kung Fu San Soo.
Yeah I think there could be some applications in mma, but I seriously doubt someone who is trained strictly in this would have any success. If you watch the way Rampage and Tito fought Chuck Liddell recently, they used a defense with the hands up like that. It worked well for Rampage...not so much for Tito.
for one rampage used more movement than tito. a moving target is harder to hit. secondly, tito got hit by centerline punches. rampage blocked chuck's traditional looping punches.
Watching more of these videos, this looks like nothing more than boxing with a little flair.
Also, if you put your arm and elbow up to the sky in order to protect the face, you are leaving your body exposed from the hip to the armpit. So a guy can hit you in your nerve center or break some ribs...maybe with boxing gloves it could work.
There's no way to tell from this video how it will work in MMA. I'd like to see a 52 block fighter in action. We won't know until they get in there and show what they've got.
52 is close quarter combat. it best implemented in a prison cell setting. an mma fighter prolly won't do so well in a prison cell. it's really apples and oranges. but, i beleive there are some aspects of 52 that can be applied to mma.
I can say those cats have discipline no doubting that but, in MMA your fighting cats with Muay Thai KickBoxing, and Brazilian Jiu jitsu, not Tai Chi, I suggest venturing into other martial arts, even boxing, Tai Chi is an excelent MA tho
Crossing the arms is not the problem if you are taught the applications behind it. There are numerous applications to many moves in this vid that is not being shown for a reason. Guessing what the applications are is just that, guessing. Those in the know to these applications are few which is why those not in the know post negative comments and cant see the use for these things. Thats only natural.
Nope, crossing arms is no problem at all! I practice a crossed arm style, Shackle Hands(Kupigana Ngumi) and Kung fu has Wu Song breaks manacles, even Karate has cross arm techniques. Dummies! Stick to your MMA, lol
i agree with one the comments before you leaving the mid section open, and in boxing you know take the body the rest falls. and i say it again you keep crossing you hand like that there going to get pinned up against the body, first rules in any martial arts. it might be effective for confusing but setting yourself up not even consid that you eyes are off the opponent another mistake. they need some o.g to demo. its not bad, better than alot of crap thats out there.
If you where to watch a real push hands contest in Tai Chi, you just MIGHT change your idea about that, but no reason for me to try and prove anything. If you are serious about training, you will actually try these things out on your own to see for yourself. Pinned arms, of course, it's POSSIBLE, but so is a reverse application...
I live NJ i used to box and would like the chance to learn 52.I do some 52 moves in my boxing but never where they came from. Our style of boxing borrowed alot from nj fighter Jersey Joe Wallcot
Look at the "Breakdancing and its combat roots" clip here on youtube. Watch Big K in the red shirt. That should pretty sum up that a camera cant capture everything and we are not showing 52 in its entirety. Would any combat system? High level material will never be filmed.
another question, after watching some more videos on this because like I said, it likes pretty interesting, I noticed the defense on this is great, if the fighter is a headhunter, but it seems like it leaves your midsection wide open, and while sure a good hit to your solarplex or kidneys and ribs might not knock you out, but it sure hurts like hell, and in a long fight can do alot of damage in the long run. Or am I just not seeing a good model of 52 blocks applied?
stuff looked pretty interesting, kind of reminds me of old muay thai stuff the way u use ur whole body and not just ur fists. Question, since this seems to b a all inside game, how would a person in this do vs someone with a large reach advantage when it is hard 2 get inside, or a Savante or Kickboxing guy that utilize kicks keeping u at a range? I would like 2 see this stuff applied 2 a really tall standup fighter, where u can't fight them outside, and inside they will tear you up.
i'm from poland we also have some jailhouse system of moves it isn't similliar to yours and it isn' so development and almost nobody know something about it
i'm really looking forward to see your man in ufc, ifl, or pride fc which i think is the best for 52 blocks not cage. there is smaller ring. i will put money on your fighter so let me know about any fights
i'm also sure that 52 will be fresh breeze in mma. rampage is only using elbows to defense he is not at 52 blocks offens
I think most MMA fighters are realizing to be truly successful in this ever evolving sport you had better have some kind of grasp on the sweet science. U cant really find any Champions right now that dont have their boxing game up to par. Even Matt Serra who recently KTFO'D GSP, credited his win to his boxing coach Ray Longo. There is a brother fighting at 155 named Din Thomas. Great footwork, great boxing and striking, and a BJJ black belt, watch out for him.
ok yall showed nothing the use of 52 is minimal and could be anything else the wrestling was what it was wrestling and i did not see an effective standup from a boxers perspective or a wrestler or a kickboxer or for damn sure a "52" fighter i dont doubt that some of ya have skills but i havent seen any thus far... good work on the monkey bars
Iam just wondering HOW THE FUCK ryanmmahoward thinks he is an authority on who and who is not capable of teaching the 52? Especially since he began his introduction to it by insulting and dismissing it as... i belive the term he used was "wack 52".
ill be honest this video puts the others to shame, now seeing it in a gym, with SKILLED fighters, grappling and striking, id like to get a little insight into the 52, this the real 52, im sure you know of lyte burly good attitude towards the game but bad representation not very good, shouldnt be a teacher of 52, doesnt have it down.
Peace Kwan, yeah 52 is that old thang and it has a lot of names. As far as everyone learning 52, that wont happen. 52 cant be bought and you cant learn it from watching a DVD. Its a science that has to be studied and learned. The devil is in the details and there is far too much details in 52 to pick it up like that. Also, we will only teach those whose heart is in the right place and about community. We are trying to build something here.
52 is something I wanna Learn... I live in the south, how can I learn it??? you discussed earlier that the dvd isnt an instructional implement. I really agree with what fwape/bartendaz are doing, its hope for our younger generations.
Greetings 2 all, I am old skul, 45 now cant belive I made it this far. Back in the day we called 52 blocks, jailboxing. I am happy to see 52 back on the block. The only thing is now that everyone will learn 52.I wont have as good advantage as I did before on the streets.I got to step up on my came. Good luck and keep on the blocks!
Its a shame how some times your own people will try to tear you down, but they cant stop this. We will continue doin our thang. On a real note, peace to the real warriors who have visited us and saw 52 for themselves, improving their game and save their energy for the real. Nice chatting with you all and those who wanna see and feel the real, contact Farisidaniel for details. One. Peace to Kareem, Rashad, and so many others, keep doin your thang.
Can you add? All of our other pages has more hits than this one and theres no Kimbo on it. So what you are talkin bout? Anyway, action talks bullshit walks. Start talkin real talk and come visit like Vernen77 is going to do. All that other ish you poppin just goes to show you an internet warrior not a real one. By the way, thanks for visiting our page daily. You cant help it. Action talks bullshit walks. Kids will be kids.
Where is this gym? I want to spar with some 52 practitioners. I trained with the older brother who spoke in the beginning a couple of times in the bx about two years ago. I train Muay Thai and would like to add some 52 into my arsenal. ONE
Wheres you clips mr. fakeelement, 69? You probably homo. We so fake but you love visiting our page. You probably a homo thats why you like watching our clips so much and Im sure you cant fight and probably cant even throw a punch. Like I said, come visit and show us how fake we are, put up a clip and show us in detail how fake we are. Im sure you will be back visiting our page soon, nut sucka.
Element69a: Why are you still on here then? Hater. Arm chair warrior talking tough from the keyboard. Wheres your clips then showing us how in detail how fake we are? Since we are so fake then come visit us and show us how fake we are. I doubt you would. Too scared and probably still live with mama. Ha ha. You the fake one. Plain and simple. You cant stop this either.
I have a suggestion that will solve everything. why dont all of you so called MMA experts step in the cage with the man and Im pretty sure all of your questions will be answered.
Element have you looked at any of thie fighters training routines, please do. Who do you know trains like Bartendaz, these guys train right, and they can fight, we choose to fight with 52 as homage to our ancestors, but trust if you dont make us use it we wont, why show the jewels if you cant take the regular, if you dont come with it we will slam and pound and choke just like your used to.
The comp has to know how to strike, wait, box, very very well to even warrent the skill, and if they are anything like Element...doesnt seem too likely we will be showing more than basic 52 in the ring for a while. Dont respond to this joker, lets discuss how to build a library of movements from the fighters left.
All of a sudden? Yes it does. The ground game has many names. Some call it Geechee. Others call it something else but its the roots of 52 most dont know about. The tribes are being re-gathered people are reconnecting to the old traditions 52 came from.
I think it would be a great idea once there is an established MMA track record. If 52 started running the fight circuit then of course people will want to learn.
I posted this on the other page but I meant to post it on this one: At the end of the day, Real recognize Real. Plain and simple. We (Fwape/Blockstar/Bartendaz) are putting in the work and are bridging the gap between the elders and the youth, between a tradition (not lost) and a community (although not easily seen is still here as it always has been and always will be).
First of all I just want to no disrespect intended towards any of the Rockers and housers these words are my own not my Mestre's My grandfathers were prize fighters back in the 30's and 40's and my uncles in the 60's and 70's. Yes it is true I studied other arts but only because our arts were not available to me.
hard time? I hope you mean hard time as in training and not hard time as in prison because you dont have to be in prison to learn 52. I just want to make that clear. 52 is not a combative system that was created in prison. It is much, much older than that. Its rhythm beats with the heart of our ancestors, the drum.
i understand wat u are saying but the way i was taught 52 is every strike is a kill blow wile there are a lot of brothers practiceing 52 the movements look off i have even sparred a lot of brothers who think they know 52 but i'm sorry to say they are sloopy
Tukalor, what you dont understand is this. What we are showing is only a smidgen of the real. You cant learn by watching a video. This is a science that has to be passed on. You cant guess it by watching a clip. To learn the real you have to be around the real who are the ones who can pass this tradition on. Which is why always say, its a rites of passage. Only by passing through the fire can you know what I mean.
i aggree with u in part brother, i don't think 52 can be taught to somebody who has not done hard time every clip i have seen every young brother i have seen being taught it will never understand 52 unless u have done hard time
I wanna see Melyssa ford in the next Kill Bill! :P Doing 52 Blocks and Kicking Uma´s butt all over the place!!! lol... That would be so sweet!... Keep it coming FWAPE... Love this stuff.. Even though i´m a white boy in denmark lol.
Also that is why my Mestre is very careful about who he teaches 52,testa and capoeira because even stupid black folks do not value what they have. I once read a question that was ask of an Iraqi scholar over a thousand years ago it was(what happen to the black people that once lived he said thay forgot there history and who they were so they died).
maybe they forgot their history because those who knew refused to show it. We dont show our fighting arts they will die. Your comment proves the point.
"what becam of the black people of Sumer?" the traveler asked the old man, "for ancient records show that the people of Sumer were Black. What happened to them?" "ah," the old man sighed.
"they lost their history,so they died."
-a Sumer legend...chancelor williams destruction of Black Civilization
Also as a people we never learn about being fucked over by other people we always want to look for the acceptence of white people some way somehow. For example we come up with dumb ass phrases such as martial arts is for everybody which gives us a reason for showing white folks fuck them our arts are for us so we will have something we can say is ours without giving credit to another people for showing us the way. Those brothers in the DVD can do what they like.
Chinese and other cultures used to say that some still do. No look the have been duplicated and remade and also honored and remembered in books and films and it is past down. Look at asian cinema. We were all influenced by asain action films. In there action films they pushed there philosophy their folklore, and its known. Sure would have loved has a kid and even now to rent a action flick that showed OUR stuff. But we cant even show Blacks becuase white might see it too.
Sir you can say what you like ,but the bottom line is that the coming of the fake 52 wannabes' are coming along with the ones who are going to pimp this thing to the end like the keysi punks in Europe. As you can see the non-whites are being taught as we speak watch the video again. As Jay-z says Big Pimpin
is looking good brother i like the workout thing with the fighting cool
heyguy1tsme 3 years ago
Much of what I've seen of 52 blocks technique could theoretically be very effective at close quarters, especially in a defensive sense. Keeping the elbows tight and deflecting shots using earmuffs (I don't know how else to describe it) is a basic maneuver that I don't see enough people use, likely because it seems to open up the body, but does a great job protecting the head. Against the cage, you can be deflective dirty boxing shots while whipping elbows at your opponent.
eng479 3 years ago
21 seconds my four piece combo.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
good work boys!..that's relly cool!
d3dD24 4 years ago
O.K. Let's work that out please! There are a couple of places we could meet. You do know I'm in seattle though right?
probablypete 4 years ago
seems like an interesting style of art, i havent really seen much of it, i would like to see more, and truely see the art go up against a real fight and see how it bares. Then can i truley judge whether it is effective or not, but right now seems cool dont really know if its crap or good.
MirkotheGreat 4 years ago
along with knowledge of self is mastering the body. thats why I like what you all stand for.and you involve the ypouth which is needed now a days
phiskus7 4 years ago
Looks like goodstuff to me.
taporsnap85 4 years ago
Amen jayceblk
calvinbones 4 years ago
Maybe but i doubt it pete.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Bobby clumsy the hours and weeks of training are what you do to prepare for those 15 or 25 minutes.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Proabably pete and joe u guys should watch the Joe Frasier video. If 52 is bullshit why are proffesional fighters and Famous teachers like Reno Morales praising and using it? I have said this before but i think it illustrates a good point. Zab Judah has made millions of dollars fighting,( how much have u made pete?), he used 52 in a fight with his toughest competition. Nuff Said.
calvinbones 4 years ago
proabaly pete if your are really 18 like your profile states u dont have to type anymore we all understand.
calvinbones 4 years ago
What does my age have to do with anything? I may be 18 but I bet I'd beat your ass!
probablypete 4 years ago
that didn't seem very good. Where's the actual mma?
BobbyClumsyNinja 4 years ago
Thank you for the compliment! The only thing I'm acting like I know is Mayweather does not use this crap and 52 blocks is bullshit which happens to be the truth.
probablypete 4 years ago
It really amazes me to see people speak in such ignorance. A case could be made against almost every martial art based on the things you've said. Every art has its strengths and weakness. There isn't one thats better than another. Thats up to the individual. What works for one person may not for another. To say its "bullshit" though is to try to devalue this form to elevate yourself. If you can't tell by the replies no one looks at you as elevated or enlightend.
jayceblk 4 years ago
You are an idiot jayceblk! How are you going to tell me why I'm calling something bullshit? I am not calling this bullshit to try to " elevate" myself I'm calling it bullshit because it is! Though the pull up bar stuff is pretty cool! 52 is ineffective when it comes to fighting actual fighters! Please prove me wrong if I am show me a video of someone using 52 in a real fight and winning. Just don't give me the it looked Mayweather uses it crap give me actual proof!
probablypete 4 years ago
Your anger tells me I struck a nerve. However I think FarisDaniel said it best already. Hopefully we can see it on You Tube afterwards. For now I rest my case.
jayceblk 4 years ago
My anger? Now you're trying to tell me my emotional state? What an idiot! One more thing let's see you make a "case" against bjj based on the things i've said.
probablypete 4 years ago
Sigh. What is a "REAL FIGHTER"? Do you even know? The case is that you could brand anything you don't understand as false, therefore showing ignorance. BJJ is a great art to but its hard to do to someone who is blocking your grappling attempts and pounding your head into the dirt. I'm actually more interested in your definition of what a real fighter is.
jayceblk 4 years ago
A real fighter is someone who is good at fighting and PROVES it in my opinion. You know someone who has videos to back it up not just talking and "sparring" with their students. And when you talk about bjj you act like there's only one way to take someone down and that's shooting for the legs. The truth is there are many ways to take someone down.
probablypete 4 years ago
Actually I didn't say anything about taking out someone's legs.
So by that definition would Dan Inosanto or George Dillman not be considered real fighters?
Fighting on video doesn't mean a whole lot. Whose to say that its not this persons only win out of 30 fights that your watching?
Your also being offered personal proof of this style. What more could you want?
jayceblk 4 years ago
When I say proves it I don't just mean having videos but they have some way of proving like be willing to spar with you to prove it or other ways. Yes Dan Inosanto is a great fighter but George Dillman are you fucking kidding me??!!! Watch the video of one of his students who do that " death touch " crap it proves that he is full of shit! His " death touch " only works on his students.
probablypete 4 years ago
Maybe, but he helped train Mike Tyson.
Anyways I said my peace. Later.
jayceblk 4 years ago
This is a joke. Notice how none of these guy's are fighting. They have people throw slow staged punches that my grandma could block.These guys are all NY street hustlers trying to scam some money. The shoulder role is a commen experinced boxer's move that is a natural defense mechanisim fast fighter's use. Mayweather&Toney millionaire world champs did not copy these street hustler's. I am a former amataure boxer and these guys are not fooling me or anybody that knows fighting.
joe33080 4 years ago
Exactly! Let's see them try this crap against REAL FIGHTERS!
probablypete 4 years ago
Rashad Evans is a real fighter and he uses it and he's undefeated in the UFC so how much proof do you need?
laronfox 3 years ago
Well if he doesn't call what he does 52 then it's not 52
probablypete 4 years ago
im a fighter that uses 52blocks...i was beaten up by 8people and i use the 52 system and thank god i leave the scene without even a scratch..
bieluvayg 4 years ago
im a fighter thats uses 52 blocks...i was beaten up by 8 people and i use the 52 system and thank god i leave the scene without even a scratch...
bieluvayg 4 years ago
Defense thats what idiot!
calvinbones 4 years ago
Are you saying mayweather uses 52 blocks? If so when does he claim this?
probablypete 4 years ago
Mayweather is in dealings with Mark Cuban to perhaps compete in MMA.
calvinbones 4 years ago
What does Mayweather have to do with this crap? idiot
probablypete 4 years ago
I love what your doin. This is some thing that can save a generatino of youg black youth through mind body soul dicipline. Its also something they can be proud of that they can claim as their owne. Every youg brotha that I show The 52 Block videos to get fired up. Thaks for preservin tha art. Evolution is the key!
Bless Up!
ROOTCYPHA 4 years ago
52 blocks is bs its muay thai chaiya style elbow blocks without the kicks against muay thai 52 bl;ocks is nothiing i could kick him down easily
aznballer1221 4 years ago 2
Hell yeah, should be interesting to see an actual match. I would love to see how 52 would fare against good old western boxing or Muay Thai on standup.
I mean why the hell not? Big props to these cats for being willing to step up and not hide behind the old "this doesn't work in the ring, this is for the street only" excuse. Really cool to see white cats doing this, always love to see black and white working together. Peace.
redtortoise76 4 years ago
I live in texas and I haven't seen none of this down here, I will be excited to learn this :D
poncekid56 4 years ago
Jenntony Rashad Evans says 52 blocks is the best inside game around so....
calvinbones 4 years ago
HAHHAHHAA
This was the shit they were doing on Rikers in the 80's right?
bxnyfordham 4 years ago
Well we will see when a person CLAIMING 52 BLOCKS as their style enters the MMA world how effective it is in that sport. Which in my opinion is the closest we've seen a sport get to actual street fighting. We'll see.
jenntony 4 years ago
I read that quote too kevin. I belive farisi said that Mayweather knows 52. His pops and uncle was both locked up and that defense he was using damn near impenatrable.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Did anybody see the Mayweather-Hatton fight? Did anybody witness how Mayweather used his elbow to stop Hatton from clinching him? Even Hatton, which I won't take anything away from, said that Mayweather was better inside with all the elbows, shoulders, and forearms that he used. This is for all those who doubt the effectiveness of the 52 system.
kevin0070 4 years ago
WHAT'S THAT SONG IN THE BACKGROUND?
48890 4 years ago
its a gourp called mambo sauce i believe its miracles or cirlce...... there slam outa dc
randolphwall1989 4 years ago
Translation:
"Uh, that's a good question. I'm not sure what the answer is."
DonGwinn 4 years ago
Don't get me wrong-- some of the parries and elbow strikes I've seen in 52 Blocks look like they'd be great supplements to my game. However, some of the other things I've seen in 52 Blocks are a little less straightforward-- for example, some of movements starting at around 1:28 in the video.
I was simply interested in seeing it pressure tested against a more common MMA opponent. When I saw the title of the video, I got really excited, but was disappointed to see that it wasn't actual matches.
KungFuJoeMarino 4 years ago
What does 52 Blocks offer in terms of defense against kicking attacks? And what about takedown defense?
The video doesn't really show a whole lot-- are there any videos of 52 Blocks practitioners fighting against other styles? Especially the common MMA styles of Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, and Jiu-Jitsu?
KungFuJoeMarino 4 years ago
On the side bar to this video is a video "52 Blocks Skull and crossbones vs Muy Thai" that shows you the 52 defense against other styles
redhawk96 4 years ago
All I see is compliant work.
No examples of footwork, entries, and efficient delivery system for the blocks, traps and locks.
and I don't see any groundwork. Anyone with a decent BJJ game will have you armbarred within 2 seconds. Looks like bad Silat/Empty hand FMA/Wing Chun.
aznvariance 4 years ago
XC u really dont have a clue do u? Have you seen the video with Joe Frasier? Do u watch any of these videos or do u just comment arbitrarily? 52 is boxing!
calvinbones 4 years ago
do us us ur legs... also if i was vsing uz ill us da legs ill us my longest tool or weapon against the shortest
009abz 4 years ago
Nobodys putting down muay thai. Muay Thai is already established. Why do u disregard 52 when u know nothing about it?
calvinbones 4 years ago
Because a style consisting of only elbow defence is like swimming with your arms only, or sprinting with your legs only. It's hardly a style. Ican guarantee you that lyte burly guy has had boxing training if not training in other forms, yet he does not teach boxing footwork. Nor does he credit boxing. Else his videos would be called 52 with boxing footwork and other styles.
XcPromise 4 years ago
What does doing pull ups have to do with 52 anyways?? I fail to see the connection. A fighter trains all parts of his body, pull ups are important but will never be as important as skipping or running or your basic pad work...
XcPromise 4 years ago
Jesus, why does no one stand up for muay thai here? Muay Thai's elbows are no less if not more than this style. It doesn't even seem like there's any clinch work done for this...whatever it is. A good clincher will destroy chances for any elbow strikes coming from an inferior clincher.
XcPromise 4 years ago
I'm looking forward to one day seeing the instructional video. I'll be sure to buy it when it comes out.
Davo53209 4 years ago
With any fighting style, if you practice it hard enough, been into enough situations where you had to fight a certain way, or you're a competitive fighter, you're going to get real good at it. I see a lot of talk about it won't work in a MMA setting, but you wouldn't know that UNLESS you had to face someone that's real good at it. It may look corny to some MMA fighters, but you never know. A lot of fighting styles are deceptive.
kevin0070 4 years ago 2
well said widugeist. I agree completely.
calvinbones 4 years ago
52 Blocks looks like a good style. It seems that the elbowing and blocking maneuvers are highly evolved. I would learn it to increase my elbow and blocking techniques (I do Muay Thai/Boxing/Jiu Jitsu). Some of the criticizers of 52 seem to miss the point...I agree that in and of itself it wouldn't do much in an MMA competition BUT it would be an excellent SUPPLIMENT to make someone a more complete martial artists.
widugeist 4 years ago
whats the name of the song in this video?
ShotCallz 4 years ago
looks very interesting. has a nice fluidity to it. it looks like it will be the next thing in mma.
emptylostsoul 4 years ago
This style is very impressive,its got a amazing rhythmic flow to it and looks like itd be great for counters.I hope you guys take this as far as it can go and if you et the chance id love to learn some more about in a conversation.
ajr4888 4 years ago
If ur constructively criticizing the style objectively without racial undertones do u.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Good luck to you guys!!
A white guy enjoyin' what you do!
Stonefists 4 years ago
So if someone is downing the style its automatically racest? True some people are name calling but just because someone is saying that an art from a certain race is ineffective doesn't make it raciest.
sungshin407 4 years ago
True indeed snappyface. If u notice the two gentleman representing these 52 videos that are up everywhere(FarisiDaniel and Lyte Burly) are both quite respectful and humble. I dont belive i have seen either of them curse or discriminate racially against anyone.
calvinbones 4 years ago
I hope that you can get enough well balanced people in your corner to keep your technique growing. It does not help when you get black racist people on your side, it stirs up the white racist people and then these boards turn into kindergarten commentary.
snappyface 4 years ago
snappy that is a bunch of bullshit. Cowardly white bigots are constantly posting racist comments on almost all the 52 block videos because they can do it anonmously and from the saefty of their homes. Regardless of who developed thye system and their views on whites you have to judge the art on its effectiveness. Thai ppl for a long time refused to even acknowledge western muay thai practioners, that didnt stop ppl from all raxces learning the art.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Those cowardly white bigots could just as easily be cowardly black bigots. Sportfighting is a sport not a hate crime, ignore the stupid ass comments made my the racists but also represent yoursel in a way that commands respect. Thats all I was trying to say.
snappyface 4 years ago
I think that if you or anyone for that matter is going to turn your technique into an art then you must start by putting all racism aside. I have looked at all of the 52 block videos on youtube and what I am seeing is another conflict regarding white/black. I think that a lot of non black people are getting the impression that this system was developed in prison by black panther types who hate white people.
snappyface 4 years ago
I think I am the only MMA firghter that looked at this. I'm a Professional MMA Fighter and think that this style might be good on the street but as a style to use against trained fighters will be no good.
davedrago0814 4 years ago
yo! please tell me y'all got a dvd for this stuff man, this shit is off the hook!
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
who sings this song
quiesterboy 4 years ago
So when are they actually going to fight MMA? Theory is great, but application is what matters.
BaBu13 4 years ago
We gave you hip hop and it took you 10yrs to understand, now afighting art is being presented and it goong to take 20 yrs to understand.
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
Musical preference is a matter of taste. Fighting is a matter of winning or losing. If this technique is good or bad then it will only take 1 good fighter to prove it. Will it take 20 years for someone to be good enough at 52 blcoks to make it to the top? Race is nothing, move on with your life.
snappyface 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
my point exactly
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
Its going to take you 50 yrs to get it.
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
A 52 practicioner they're going to do "52 kata" be water homie!!!
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
Everything is mental. When you train it's mental when fight its mental. You train so that when you fight your shit is second nature. I get the feeling that the naysayers thing that when you fight...
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
All of you naysayers need to cop the Show and Prove joint and your questions will be answered. If you're a thinker and you've been in a real fight then you should understand.
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
oh yeah... i havent seen it block a leg kick either...
AJCDroopy 4 years ago
whats good whats good??
1st off ide like to see some fights out of you guys useing your skill of the 52 blocks. some of the things ive seen have been just pads and not meny fights. i think the only way you guys can prove your selfs is to fight.
fuckyouupfast 4 years ago
Yo ive been tryin to learn bout this technique but its REALLY hard to belive it works when nobody has proof...thers no vids on it being effective, like full contact sparing if anything... not to hate but i need to see it at work because most of it looks like u can just side step pivot jab followed by a head kick and the fight is over
AJCDroopy 4 years ago
true indeed.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Every style has limitations.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Wow, Im impressed I have to admit I didn't give this style all that much credit. I've trained in martial arts but not the traditional type like TKD or karate I've trained in Guerilla style hand to hand combat. I really don't know if anyone is familiar with it. But it's a lot similar to 52 Blocks except 52 Blocks seems more of a modern era version I woudl really enjoy to train with any of this finely skilled fighters. I look forward to seeing any more progress.
Spykachu78 4 years ago
truth about the matter is.If you have never been to prison or in any real hood in the old hoods than you probly dubt the 52 blocks.Some one left a comment about a person with more reach if you understand what is at the root of 52 blocks you would understand that it is a protection style built upon hand, eye, speed and rythem. main focus is to destroy a striker with block and sharp blows reach or no reach
sallam
AbuAli
mikeecass 4 years ago
but MMA fighters understand body control in all areas not just bicep control and elbow blocks, and people with judo will throw you to the ground and if that doesn't knock you out in a street inviroment then the jiu jitsu back round will end you with a choke, arm lock, leg lock, neck crank or many other types of submissions... i believe 52 blocks is nice for stand up fighting but against an mma judo/jiu jitsu player 52 blocks will be ripped apart
brettgoudy 4 years ago
ummm... it looks all fun and good and there's no doubt you all have tremendous upper body strength and in defending against some one with no martial art experience i believe 52 blocks will work...
brettgoudy 4 years ago
Great video. Any gyms on the west coast? bay area?
s3a1l5 4 years ago
I don't mean any personal offense to the gym or its fighters, but I just dont understand why they think elbows strikes and forearm blocks are so revolutionary. I wish them the best.
bklynrx7 4 years ago
I dont see any future in this 52 blocks in a professional arena. Ive been watching these 52 blocks videos on youtube for almost and hour now and all I keep thinking is "that guy would eat my knees all day long". Yea maybe this might work on prison thugs but this style leaves so many opening for an experience fighter. Just watch any Muay thai or savate fight. While these dudes play chicken wing ill step back and collapse your ribcage or take your legs out from under you.
bklynrx7 4 years ago
I bet u that "nigger" on crack could put a beating on you worse then ya pops did. 52 was born out of a need to survive, in slave days and in prison...so let me see u survive a day in those conditions b
ShotCallz 4 years ago
The discussion wasn't about surviving slave days and prison. It was about the effectiveness of the style. I think it seems to apply to close quarter combat like a prison setting, but it has limitations. As for the guy putting a beating on me- anything can happen, but I'd be ready. I train kickboxing, wrestling, and BJJ at Team Quest, and I have a brown belt in Kung Fu San Soo.
fearthemunky 4 years ago
I wanna know if they can stop a double-leg takedown.
fearthemunky 4 years ago
Tito is not that great of a striker, not bad but not great. there are very few world class strikers in the UFC.
calvinbones 4 years ago
The Whole video is amazing, start to finish, it was great. Who does the song? I can't wait to see where this 52, Fwape, Bartendaz movement goes.
Lots of Respect
ShotCallz 4 years ago
I agree nick tommy well said. Fearthemunky anyone that trains strictly in one style wont have much sucess in MMA. Hence the term MMA.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Yeah I think there could be some applications in mma, but I seriously doubt someone who is trained strictly in this would have any success. If you watch the way Rampage and Tito fought Chuck Liddell recently, they used a defense with the hands up like that. It worked well for Rampage...not so much for Tito.
fearthemunky 4 years ago
for one rampage used more movement than tito. a moving target is harder to hit. secondly, tito got hit by centerline punches. rampage blocked chuck's traditional looping punches.
nickctommy 4 years ago
Watching more of these videos, this looks like nothing more than boxing with a little flair.
Also, if you put your arm and elbow up to the sky in order to protect the face, you are leaving your body exposed from the hip to the armpit. So a guy can hit you in your nerve center or break some ribs...maybe with boxing gloves it could work.
fearthemunky 4 years ago
There's no way to tell from this video how it will work in MMA. I'd like to see a 52 block fighter in action. We won't know until they get in there and show what they've got.
fearthemunky 4 years ago
52 is close quarter combat. it best implemented in a prison cell setting. an mma fighter prolly won't do so well in a prison cell. it's really apples and oranges. but, i beleive there are some aspects of 52 that can be applied to mma.
nickctommy 4 years ago
agreed
j124life 4 years ago
First2Tough i think alot of ppl consider 52 boxing.
calvinbones 4 years ago
I can say those cats have discipline no doubting that but, in MMA your fighting cats with Muay Thai KickBoxing, and Brazilian Jiu jitsu, not Tai Chi, I suggest venturing into other martial arts, even boxing, Tai Chi is an excelent MA tho
Fist2Tough 4 years ago
???
Fist2Tough 4 years ago
Crossing the arms is not the problem if you are taught the applications behind it. There are numerous applications to many moves in this vid that is not being shown for a reason. Guessing what the applications are is just that, guessing. Those in the know to these applications are few which is why those not in the know post negative comments and cant see the use for these things. Thats only natural.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Nope, crossing arms is no problem at all! I practice a crossed arm style, Shackle Hands(Kupigana Ngumi) and Kung fu has Wu Song breaks manacles, even Karate has cross arm techniques. Dummies! Stick to your MMA, lol
Aetherus7 4 years ago
i agree with one the comments before you leaving the mid section open, and in boxing you know take the body the rest falls. and i say it again you keep crossing you hand like that there going to get pinned up against the body, first rules in any martial arts. it might be effective for confusing but setting yourself up not even consid that you eyes are off the opponent another mistake. they need some o.g to demo. its not bad, better than alot of crap thats out there.
sonnych69 4 years ago
If you where to watch a real push hands contest in Tai Chi, you just MIGHT change your idea about that, but no reason for me to try and prove anything. If you are serious about training, you will actually try these things out on your own to see for yourself. Pinned arms, of course, it's POSSIBLE, but so is a reverse application...
Aetherus7 4 years ago
The fight is in the dance and rhythm and timing is everything. Who else is the master of rhythm on this plane but the soul brother.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Yes sir, rep DC! For those that don't know that's go-go playing in the background!
youngbloodkennels 4 years ago
I live NJ i used to box and would like the chance to learn 52.I do some 52 moves in my boxing but never where they came from. Our style of boxing borrowed alot from nj fighter Jersey Joe Wallcot
Wilki1016 4 years ago
Thats a Nice Fighting Style =)
bersukcs 4 years ago
fock why are you dancing????
edgarlic67 4 years ago
Look at the "Breakdancing and its combat roots" clip here on youtube. Watch Big K in the red shirt. That should pretty sum up that a camera cant capture everything and we are not showing 52 in its entirety. Would any combat system? High level material will never be filmed.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
another question, after watching some more videos on this because like I said, it likes pretty interesting, I noticed the defense on this is great, if the fighter is a headhunter, but it seems like it leaves your midsection wide open, and while sure a good hit to your solarplex or kidneys and ribs might not knock you out, but it sure hurts like hell, and in a long fight can do alot of damage in the long run. Or am I just not seeing a good model of 52 blocks applied?
thepman98 4 years ago
stuff looked pretty interesting, kind of reminds me of old muay thai stuff the way u use ur whole body and not just ur fists. Question, since this seems to b a all inside game, how would a person in this do vs someone with a large reach advantage when it is hard 2 get inside, or a Savante or Kickboxing guy that utilize kicks keeping u at a range? I would like 2 see this stuff applied 2 a really tall standup fighter, where u can't fight them outside, and inside they will tear you up.
thepman98 4 years ago
Will one of you MMA dudes please explain why this wont work?
rthesuperstar 4 years ago
Do you have any contacts/schools in NC or VA. I really would like to learn this style of fighting.
zaih1981 4 years ago
do you have still some dvds of 52 blocks documentary???
bubeiro07 4 years ago
do you still have some dvds of 52 documentary???
bubeiro07 4 years ago
i'm from poland we also have some jailhouse system of moves it isn't similliar to yours and it isn' so development and almost nobody know something about it
i'm really looking forward to see your man in ufc, ifl, or pride fc which i think is the best for 52 blocks not cage. there is smaller ring. i will put money on your fighter so let me know about any fights
i'm also sure that 52 will be fresh breeze in mma. rampage is only using elbows to defense he is not at 52 blocks offens
bubeiro07 4 years ago
I think most MMA fighters are realizing to be truly successful in this ever evolving sport you had better have some kind of grasp on the sweet science. U cant really find any Champions right now that dont have their boxing game up to par. Even Matt Serra who recently KTFO'D GSP, credited his win to his boxing coach Ray Longo. There is a brother fighting at 155 named Din Thomas. Great footwork, great boxing and striking, and a BJJ black belt, watch out for him.
calvinbones 4 years ago
ok yall showed nothing the use of 52 is minimal and could be anything else the wrestling was what it was wrestling and i did not see an effective standup from a boxers perspective or a wrestler or a kickboxer or for damn sure a "52" fighter i dont doubt that some of ya have skills but i havent seen any thus far... good work on the monkey bars
imacleod212 4 years ago
Lawler is a good fighter but he did get KTFO by Nick diaz. Anyand everybody can lose.
calvinbones 4 years ago
52 will change how striking is handled in MMA, just as BJJ changed ground and pound aggression Its going to be like... think before you throw.
DCorganizer 4 years ago
Iam just wondering HOW THE FUCK ryanmmahoward thinks he is an authority on who and who is not capable of teaching the 52? Especially since he began his introduction to it by insulting and dismissing it as... i belive the term he used was "wack 52".
calvinbones 4 years ago
Ryanmmahoward is anything but HUMBLE. Apperently he thinks you can only have skills if you are fighting in a cage.
calvinbones 4 years ago
Peace and Blessings
You Brothas are bridging the gap on skills
that have been lost and are part of our
heritage and warrior lineage. From different
surrounding and environments come different styles
of fighting and it seems that 52 has evolved in this manner. Let no man judge the next, but let us all
help each other to learn. Keep doing your what you doing for the people and community
dsims045b 4 years ago
peace ib wali shakur from demecca this is good stuff
walishakur313 4 years ago
SOME MORE BROTHERS JUST CAME HOME!!! Look out for more soon!
DCorganizer 4 years ago
Ryan, Thanks for the humble compliments. Its always good to hear from people who see the positive things we are doing for the community. Peace.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
ill be honest this video puts the others to shame, now seeing it in a gym, with SKILLED fighters, grappling and striking, id like to get a little insight into the 52, this the real 52, im sure you know of lyte burly good attitude towards the game but bad representation not very good, shouldnt be a teacher of 52, doesnt have it down.
ryanmmahoward 4 years ago
Peace Kwan, yeah 52 is that old thang and it has a lot of names. As far as everyone learning 52, that wont happen. 52 cant be bought and you cant learn it from watching a DVD. Its a science that has to be studied and learned. The devil is in the details and there is far too much details in 52 to pick it up like that. Also, we will only teach those whose heart is in the right place and about community. We are trying to build something here.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
52 is something I wanna Learn... I live in the south, how can I learn it??? you discussed earlier that the dvd isnt an instructional implement. I really agree with what fwape/bartendaz are doing, its hope for our younger generations.
Solomon817 4 years ago
HHHH
kaarizmaa 4 years ago
Greetings 2 all, I am old skul, 45 now cant belive I made it this far. Back in the day we called 52 blocks, jailboxing. I am happy to see 52 back on the block. The only thing is now that everyone will learn 52.I wont have as good advantage as I did before on the streets.I got to step up on my came. Good luck and keep on the blocks!
kwanjangnim7 4 years ago
Its a shame how some times your own people will try to tear you down, but they cant stop this. We will continue doin our thang. On a real note, peace to the real warriors who have visited us and saw 52 for themselves, improving their game and save their energy for the real. Nice chatting with you all and those who wanna see and feel the real, contact Farisidaniel for details. One. Peace to Kareem, Rashad, and so many others, keep doin your thang.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Can you add? All of our other pages has more hits than this one and theres no Kimbo on it. So what you are talkin bout? Anyway, action talks bullshit walks. Start talkin real talk and come visit like Vernen77 is going to do. All that other ish you poppin just goes to show you an internet warrior not a real one. By the way, thanks for visiting our page daily. You cant help it. Action talks bullshit walks. Kids will be kids.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Some1 is mad... u cryin now? ur shits weak.. posting this video shows u cant fight. nuff said
Element69a 4 years ago
When you train with us, you will be leaving that Muay Thai alone.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
NAKMEEZY, the gym is in NYC, contact Farisidaniel for details.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Where is this gym? I want to spar with some 52 practitioners. I trained with the older brother who spoke in the beginning a couple of times in the bx about two years ago. I train Muay Thai and would like to add some 52 into my arsenal. ONE
NAKMEEZY 4 years ago
Nakmeezy, do you train in any grappling?
Maddragonfly 4 years ago
Wheres you clips mr. fakeelement, 69? You probably homo. We so fake but you love visiting our page. You probably a homo thats why you like watching our clips so much and Im sure you cant fight and probably cant even throw a punch. Like I said, come visit and show us how fake we are, put up a clip and show us in detail how fake we are. Im sure you will be back visiting our page soon, nut sucka.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
LMAO
harvydent7154 4 years ago
Element69a: Why are you still on here then? Hater. Arm chair warrior talking tough from the keyboard. Wheres your clips then showing us how in detail how fake we are? Since we are so fake then come visit us and show us how fake we are. I doubt you would. Too scared and probably still live with mama. Ha ha. You the fake one. Plain and simple. You cant stop this either.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
Fake.
Element69a 4 years ago
Coward.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
love this style of fighting and training ..
highway8west 4 years ago
I have a suggestion that will solve everything. why dont all of you so called MMA experts step in the cage with the man and Im pretty sure all of your questions will be answered.
unseenhandz 4 years ago
Element have you looked at any of thie fighters training routines, please do. Who do you know trains like Bartendaz, these guys train right, and they can fight, we choose to fight with 52 as homage to our ancestors, but trust if you dont make us use it we wont, why show the jewels if you cant take the regular, if you dont come with it we will slam and pound and choke just like your used to.
DCorganizer 4 years ago
The comp has to know how to strike, wait, box, very very well to even warrent the skill, and if they are anything like Element...doesnt seem too likely we will be showing more than basic 52 in the ring for a while. Dont respond to this joker, lets discuss how to build a library of movements from the fighters left.
DCorganizer 4 years ago
Please dont wear TapOut gear... makin it look bad with this fake ass style... yall should be embarrassed for makin this video.
Sloppy
fake
Rofl good laughs the everytime i watch it! rofffl
Element69a 4 years ago
All of a sudden? Yes it does. The ground game has many names. Some call it Geechee. Others call it something else but its the roots of 52 most dont know about. The tribes are being re-gathered people are reconnecting to the old traditions 52 came from.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
so 52 now all of a sudden has groundwork too?
ronaldk86 4 years ago
What does the community think about FWAPE putting out any 52 Blocks training materials? Want to know the positives and negatives.
DCorganizer 4 years ago
I think it would be a great idea once there is an established MMA track record. If 52 started running the fight circuit then of course people will want to learn.
Maddragonfly 4 years ago
You dont choose the tradition, the tradition chooses you. Again, Real recognize real just like steel sharpens steel. Just like the Blacksmith.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
I posted this on the other page but I meant to post it on this one: At the end of the day, Real recognize Real. Plain and simple. We (Fwape/Blockstar/Bartendaz) are putting in the work and are bridging the gap between the elders and the youth, between a tradition (not lost) and a community (although not easily seen is still here as it always has been and always will be).
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
First of all I just want to no disrespect intended towards any of the Rockers and housers these words are my own not my Mestre's My grandfathers were prize fighters back in the 30's and 40's and my uncles in the 60's and 70's. Yes it is true I studied other arts but only because our arts were not available to me.
tukalor 4 years ago
hard time? I hope you mean hard time as in training and not hard time as in prison because you dont have to be in prison to learn 52. I just want to make that clear. 52 is not a combative system that was created in prison. It is much, much older than that. Its rhythm beats with the heart of our ancestors, the drum.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
i understand wat u are saying but the way i was taught 52 is every strike is a kill blow wile there are a lot of brothers practiceing 52 the movements look off i have even sparred a lot of brothers who think they know 52 but i'm sorry to say they are sloopy
ruggedd 4 years ago
Tukalor, what you dont understand is this. What we are showing is only a smidgen of the real. You cant learn by watching a video. This is a science that has to be passed on. You cant guess it by watching a clip. To learn the real you have to be around the real who are the ones who can pass this tradition on. Which is why always say, its a rites of passage. Only by passing through the fire can you know what I mean.
ZoKlo7 4 years ago
i aggree with u in part brother, i don't think 52 can be taught to somebody who has not done hard time every clip i have seen every young brother i have seen being taught it will never understand 52 unless u have done hard time
ruggedd 4 years ago
I wanna see Melyssa ford in the next Kill Bill! :P Doing 52 Blocks and Kicking Uma´s butt all over the place!!! lol... That would be so sweet!... Keep it coming FWAPE... Love this stuff.. Even though i´m a white boy in denmark lol.
Verner77 4 years ago
Also that is why my Mestre is very careful about who he teaches 52,testa and capoeira because even stupid black folks do not value what they have. I once read a question that was ask of an Iraqi scholar over a thousand years ago it was(what happen to the black people that once lived he said thay forgot there history and who they were so they died).
tukalor 4 years ago
maybe they forgot their history because those who knew refused to show it. We dont show our fighting arts they will die. Your comment proves the point.
pakuabp1 4 years ago
"what becam of the black people of Sumer?" the traveler asked the old man, "for ancient records show that the people of Sumer were Black. What happened to them?" "ah," the old man sighed.
"they lost their history,so they died."
-a Sumer legend...chancelor williams destruction of Black Civilization
peace
harvydent7154 4 years ago
Also as a people we never learn about being fucked over by other people we always want to look for the acceptence of white people some way somehow. For example we come up with dumb ass phrases such as martial arts is for everybody which gives us a reason for showing white folks fuck them our arts are for us so we will have something we can say is ours without giving credit to another people for showing us the way. Those brothers in the DVD can do what they like.
tukalor 4 years ago
Chinese and other cultures used to say that some still do. No look the have been duplicated and remade and also honored and remembered in books and films and it is past down. Look at asian cinema. We were all influenced by asain action films. In there action films they pushed there philosophy their folklore, and its known. Sure would have loved has a kid and even now to rent a action flick that showed OUR stuff. But we cant even show Blacks becuase white might see it too.
pakuabp1 4 years ago
Sir you can say what you like ,but the bottom line is that the coming of the fake 52 wannabes' are coming along with the ones who are going to pimp this thing to the end like the keysi punks in Europe. As you can see the non-whites are being taught as we speak watch the video again. As Jay-z says Big Pimpin
tukalor 4 years ago