or dont visit youtube, you know, google is just evil, youtube is doing something tricky to prevent you from viewing video other than using the flashplayer
Awesome demonstration! I love the simplicity of Inferno's UI. No distracting candy. I feel proud to know somebody is using the inferno project in such a unique way that is quite relevant to our modern age of mobile phones!
What version of Cyanogen Mod are you running? I tried installing it on top of Cyanogen Mod 7 on my Nexus S and all I got was a black screen and a fall back to recovery mode.
Speed alone doesn't sell! Not anymore these days. Just look to Apple or even Android! Good work so far, now make it look beautiful and more and more people will want to start use it (and maybe even Google could use it with it's own interface).
Ah, it's like somebody burned enough brain cells to have fvwm95 or twm running on Android. Please no! (shudder)
That it can be done is one thing (technically very interesting and bravo to the folks doing it...). But it's like bringing the user friendliness of Unix as it was in the 90s to a modern computer.
@Ertyui7 doc.cat-v.org has many papers written about both Plan 9 and Inferno. They give a lot of good insight into how both systems were designed, and the advantages of using such a system. I would suggest looking there, and especially the Plan 9 overview (doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/9) and the Inferno overview (doc.cat-v.org/inferno/4th_edition/inferno_OS). The experts can tell you a lot better than we can.
I'm actually very excited by this - thanks for posting the vid. I followed the install instructions on Ubuntu but was briefly stopped stone-cold by emu's
@therealsean4u The problem is that, for security reasons, you can only use official blessed and sanctified cameras to take pictures on-site... and it's hard to find one of those at 4:30 p.m. on a Friday afternoon. So I went home and used my laptop.
@slawmasta I'm actually surprised you were able to do this work at Sandia at all, much less take it home. Do they allow cellphones in the tech area now? Or is my understanding of Sandia way outdated? (I interviewed there about a decade ago.)
Looks cool even though the interface could be better setup for touch. For example in SMS have an option to put buttons on alternating sides of the number list or make them a bit bigger. For the phone app, separate out the hangup and dial buttons from things like speakerphone.
pretty useless, but cool.. Is there already an (almost) complete hardware support for Nexus S and/or, maybe, some other phones, or is it running as an app on top of dalvik?
This shows why Android is so healthy to the cell phone community. Up until now cell manufacturers have been restrictive and so regressive in the way they make phones for end users. By providing a hugely popular OS that is meant to be used on many types of devices Google will inevitably end the era of control cell phone companies have had. Great hack, would love to see viable competitor OSs!
Think 10 years from now, the cell phone of that time is unimaginable.
As to why, it demonstrates that the UI that was developed independently of Android can run and use the same hardware. Some people want to do things without using the Java based UI. A lot of people have had the impression that the only way you could develop for these phones is to do it in Java. This says "No, the hardware can support alternatives. and it still works. Go forth and play, or do your own thing."
Additionally if the boot time is 10 sec. I'd be happier.
I want to change my current runtime environment from Android / Linux to GNU / Linux but this have caught my interest. Is this running on-top of the android runtime environment?
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sutlerblvzen6934 1 week ago
@empdapez quvi,
or dont visit youtube, you know, google is just evil, youtube is doing something tricky to prevent you from viewing video other than using the flashplayer
lolnameless 3 weeks ago
NeXT, a Plan9 launcher?
LULZ
HerrSeale 4 months ago
Awesome demonstration! I love the simplicity of Inferno's UI. No distracting candy. I feel proud to know somebody is using the inferno project in such a unique way that is quite relevant to our modern age of mobile phones!
WretchedWinston 5 months ago
@WretchedWinston I think it's just an experimental UI which will be completely rewritten in case Inferno will seriously move to the smartphones.
fmyoen 5 months ago
I hate this, "upgrade your Adobe Flash Player, to view this video."
empdapez 5 months ago
It's like it's 1994 and I just got my first Windows 3.1 machine.
yaosio 5 months ago
What version of Cyanogen Mod are you running? I tried installing it on top of Cyanogen Mod 7 on my Nexus S and all I got was a black screen and a fall back to recovery mode.
Has anyone succeeded in installing it?
flynnnrg 5 months ago
创意无限嘛
wendalx 5 months ago
Wow, I never thought I would see that!
fernwood 5 months ago
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And not a single fuck as given that day. The end.
felizago 5 months ago
Speed alone doesn't sell! Not anymore these days. Just look to Apple or even Android! Good work so far, now make it look beautiful and more and more people will want to start use it (and maybe even Google could use it with it's own interface).
CyberDruif 5 months ago
shit !
StupidLaserTricks2 5 months ago
Ah, it's like somebody burned enough brain cells to have fvwm95 or twm running on Android. Please no! (shudder)
That it can be done is one thing (technically very interesting and bravo to the folks doing it...). But it's like bringing the user friendliness of Unix as it was in the 90s to a modern computer.
triankar 5 months ago
Can somebody explain, and I'm not being sarcastic, why we need another OS?
Or why this is so much better then the existing os's.
Ertyui7 5 months ago
@Ertyui7 By passes Java. Boots nearly instantly. Use more efficient code, thus get more battery life and a faster phone.
charlesgnarly 5 months ago
@Ertyui7 doc.cat-v.org has many papers written about both Plan 9 and Inferno. They give a lot of good insight into how both systems were designed, and the advantages of using such a system. I would suggest looking there, and especially the Plan 9 overview (doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/9) and the Inferno overview (doc.cat-v.org/inferno/4th_edition/inferno_OS). The experts can tell you a lot better than we can.
vAltyR47 5 months ago
@vAltyR47 Thank you :) I'll have a look at them
Ertyui7 5 months ago
I'm actually very excited by this - thanks for posting the vid. I followed the install instructions on Ubuntu but was briefly stopped stone-cold by emu's
;
... until a little search got me
emu /dis/wm/wm.dis wm/logon -u inferno
Looking forward to some limbo programming!
therealsean4u 5 months ago
I couldn't pay any attention to the presentation at all: the idea that Sandia National Labs can't afford a separate camera has shaken me to my core.
therealsean4u 5 months ago 3
@therealsean4u The problem is that, for security reasons, you can only use official blessed and sanctified cameras to take pictures on-site... and it's hard to find one of those at 4:30 p.m. on a Friday afternoon. So I went home and used my laptop.
slawmasta 5 months ago 12
@slawmasta I'm actually surprised you were able to do this work at Sandia at all, much less take it home. Do they allow cellphones in the tech area now? Or is my understanding of Sandia way outdated? (I interviewed there about a decade ago.)
plaidfluff 5 months ago
There is a graphical environment. It's called Android. Any point in competing with that? In this Inferno port you can do stuff like
dial somephonenumber > /phone/phone
EIther you understand why that is cool or you can go to being another mindless consumer; it's your call. hacking is not for everyone.
rminnich 5 months ago
"And not a single fuck as given that. The end."
felizago 5 months ago
Looks cool even though the interface could be better setup for touch. For example in SMS have an option to put buttons on alternating sides of the number list or make them a bit bigger. For the phone app, separate out the hangup and dial buttons from things like speakerphone.
WorBlux 5 months ago
What an idiot!
siddartharo 5 months ago
Those people flamming has no idea what Inferno/Plan9 OSes are ;)
Great job!
behael 5 months ago 18
pretty useless, but cool.. Is there already an (almost) complete hardware support for Nexus S and/or, maybe, some other phones, or is it running as an app on top of dalvik?
CiccioCiccio87 5 months ago
It demonstrates exactly how difficult it is to build phone OSes. Great job! I would love to see something replace Android.
"Skip Trowel" (Bumpy) finish on the walls. I have only seen that in a few developments in Las Vegas.
codemusician 5 months ago
very_nice!
hiatuszero 5 months ago
erm....kind of looks a bit shit? No offence.
benhj 5 months ago
@benhj Listen. It was written in the 90s.
phillycheaseman 5 months ago
This shows why Android is so healthy to the cell phone community. Up until now cell manufacturers have been restrictive and so regressive in the way they make phones for end users. By providing a hugely popular OS that is meant to be used on many types of devices Google will inevitably end the era of control cell phone companies have had. Great hack, would love to see viable competitor OSs!
Think 10 years from now, the cell phone of that time is unimaginable.
Silverweed 5 months ago
@shahsjournal - But why not?
As to why, it demonstrates that the UI that was developed independently of Android can run and use the same hardware. Some people want to do things without using the Java based UI. A lot of people have had the impression that the only way you could develop for these phones is to do it in Java. This says "No, the hardware can support alternatives. and it still works. Go forth and play, or do your own thing."
Additionally if the boot time is 10 sec. I'd be happier.
rusty0101 5 months ago 2
but why???
shahsjournal 5 months ago
I want to change my current runtime environment from Android / Linux to GNU / Linux but this have caught my interest. Is this running on-top of the android runtime environment?
lordmetroid 5 months ago
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50 seconds before we even see any action? typical scientist bonehead!
tjhowelliii 5 months ago
@tjhowelliii
typical entitled you-tuber.. Mocking a free video that you paid nothing for.
greenrolaids 5 months ago 3
@tjhowelliii if only there were some way to fast forward .............
jon780 5 months ago
Kudos! Awesome demo and shows just how flexible the Android platform and ecosystem is.
gellenburg 5 months ago 13
@gellenburg It's really not Android, it's just build on top of the same very stripped Linux kernel as Android.
peterpasschier 5 months ago
@gellenburg you mean how flexible Linux is?
Tynen 5 months ago
@Tynen @gellenburg Inferno is Plan 9, not Linux... a;lkdlajfa;lkjfd
JamesManes 4 months ago
Superb! Congratulations!
Wes Kussmaul
wkussmaul 5 months ago
THANK YOU! So glad someone posted a demo! :D
evilpig247 5 months ago 2