Boeing 767 Amercian Airlines bad or good landing???

[p0aco]

that's a crosswind landing;)

[a330ftw]

Just a tiny wobble its alright

[lycoming333]

10 knot crosswind...not bad

[fooksake69]

I have seen far worst.

[stealhty1]

GOOD



[felix09111]

good



[zoolkhan]

the landing was pretty good. i dont understand why there is even a discussion about it.

[Keys879]

@zoolkhan You're right. The gear wasn't stressed and there was no damage to the aircraft. The landing was overall smooth (albeit lopsided at first). Don't understand where the question is here.

[rkjessop]

I would have added a touch more power before landing. The roll out did not appear to slow the descent rate.

[Mithrin126]

Nice landing, nothing wrong with it. Good adjustments to wind conditions.

[arsch621]

its a good landing or cool

[haitiano1982]

haha keeping that wheelie after a one two three ! nice nose wheel greaser chump

[doggydog472]

Good landing

[9500GTa4]

I like this one, nice job AA !

[nrocci84]

He had came in with just a little too much power, which is why the plane wanted to keep flying....i would say just an alright landing

[RellyOhBoy]

@nrocci84 And how many hours do you have on the Triple 7 ??? None you say???

Oh ok...

[RellyOhBoy]

And how many hours do you have on the 767 ??? None you say???

Oh ok...

[nrocci84]

@RellyOhBoy I'm sorry, how many do you have? Are you even a pilot? Pilots try to make every landing their best or at least better than the first, and in the pilot world you somewhat "compete" against each other on a better landing than the other. You may know this if you were a pilot. Get off my back.

[RellyOhBoy]

@nrocci84 I'm not an ATP....I have a private pilot cert. single engine piston. I have quite a few hours in a PA 28 Piper Dakota.

You seem to have it all wrong dude. Its not a competition when you are carrying a plane full of passengers. The goal is to get your passengers, your crew and your ship from point A to point be as safely as possible. A pilot you are not and If you are....remind me to stay out of your airspace.

[RellyOhBoy]

Airliners have to be flown by the book. Perfect example of a so called "competition" gone wrong. Pinnicle Flight 3701. Two morons tried to play test pilot and take a CRJ to its service ceiling, both engines flamed out, they couldn't relight them. Crashed and burned. 

[nrocci84]

@RellyOhBoy by the book? Well since we are using evidence on flight accidents, Air Trans 236, one gallon per min fuel leak, the book said to cross feed the fuel and they did, and in doing so emptied all their good fuel. You need to think about all your actions.

Also, I am not condoning what they did, thats ridiculous, you don't play test pilot with people on board, however you STRIVE to be the BEST PILOT! with the best landings! thats all I am saying!

[miksta1988]

Not a bad landing, probably the only thing was that it looked like he had to align himself with the runway a bit after touchdown...

[poindexterdick]

Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. This one wasn't that bad.

[fl4v100xx]

asi aterrizo yo en fsx, si no es tan facil como para ir muy bien alineadito.

[FirstFlight271]

if u can walk off from it then u str8 .

[HugoAndres]

it was a good landing. Automatic Ground Spoilers work with the ground shift mechanic. That why at first touch the tyre did not spin enought to activated the Spoilers at second touch both gear spin spoilers deploy and sink aircraft into the runway. Ground Spoilers do the 60% of breaking that's why they are so important

[ConradTheCruel]

This isn't a crosswind landing. Surface wind 060 at 10 knots, you're cleared to land on 06 Right. It's a perfect 10 knot headwind. It should be a textbook landing. Especially when as a student pilot, I've made better landings in a 152 with 10 knots crosswind (bearing in mind I'm doing 65 knots on final not 140).

[tomellis6680]

Poor for a simple 10kts

[ZigZagMarquis]

It looks like you can use the airplane again, that makes it a good landing!

[Flightagressor97]

@ZigZagMarquis No that makes it a GREAT landing.

[ZigZagMarquis]

It looks like you can use the airplane again, that makes it a good landing! ;-)

[herbergreen]

Have to call it a good landing. He just had to kick some rudder to keep the plane aligned with the runway. It wasn't pretty, however.

[andresddr]

Very bad Landing...

[chomkohome]

yea, for a crosswind landing at Manchester, this is pretty good!

[nikardem]

very good landing

[Milesco]

Looks fine to me.

[kolbpilot]

Nothing wrong with that landing.  No two are the same.

[tobymitch]

maybe you need to wait until the aircraft is stable before applying reverse thrust? Im not sure though...

[TheMeslava]

Did anyone think to ask why after both main gears were down there was no reverse thrust until maybe... 7 seconds later? Usually it's much sooner than that?

[ccr26]

@TheMeslava Mains must touch down first then nosewheel, then reverse prevents the nosewheel from slamming on down.

[Aviationnation10]

@ccr26 reverse does the opposite it pulls the aircraft backwards thus pulling the nose down

[RichyJam2011]

He flared a bit late I think

[BigBearVids]

SINK RATE-- BADD

[Andribakari]

Horrible landing in every possible way! But i guess that's the AA way of doing things. Shitty airline!

[Saidasror777]

good!!!!!



[newbeefly]

Not a perfect landing but successful. Apparently there were some crosswinds as the plane crossed the runway threshold. The pilots earned another days pay.

[cholomackdaddy]

I say its good. He didn't mess up badly or anything.

[andreasilve]

Very small bad.

[rAvensBBr]

seen much worse end much worse....

[pocomedy]

given the circumstances a pretty nice landing.

[anurek123]

8/10 :D

[hanzel1]

ang babaw naman ng nsa description mo.... funny na ba seo un...? baka sabihin ko palang na kikilitiin kita mtatawa ka na....

its good landing... yes why because they land safe... theres no such thing as bad landing bad landing is equal to crash landing...

[fthrcast]

I'd give the pilot a 8 of 10. The plane wasn't really running over the runway before he kind of dumped it shortly , at the beginning of the runway , like you might where in an emergency , you were landing on a shorter than normal strip for the aircraft you were landing. Bouncing back and forth between sets of landing gear is not good. Not to mention that crosswinds could have made that landing worse.

[milko1998]

good



[ampdTunes]

This is addicting. I'm watching it over and over.

[PIPOUSE1]

Normal landing !

[flyewr1907]

it seemed fine to me

[johnuio]

not bad for a guy who lands maybe 4-5 times a month, hehehe.. sink rate was high at the end, obviously, requiring a bit more flare than normal, but handled smoothly

[maurix79sarzana]

Good coglione!

[DirtyThing20]

Very good landing.

[08687435701]

Nice landing!

[thegilles6]

this happens 797 times a day

[MyPilot747]

the pilot was overccontrolling

[Lharmanfly]

@MyPilot747 lol!  How the hell can you tell that!?!?

[MyPilot747]

its obvious even a retard can notice that

[mono1geek]

Must keep in mind that Airliners go for what is called a "Positive landing" - the type of landing where the aircraft gets on the deck and stays on the deck.

[inbound1000]

nice three wheel landing.. very smooth.. also remember the capo and first officer has been up for more then 8 hours flying and tired.. not bad....

[mmichaeldonavon]

It would appear that he was operating "on the back side" of the power curve; yes, he did save it. Might have been an airspeed indication problem (both?). Can't always tell with all of the computers that display the information, at this point in time. But, he recovered nicely! 

[gypsykingg]

bad

[MissThunderPuss]

well down i would say.......... possibly a bit of warm air pushing her up

[hello1233280]

I love how American pilots only respond with their callsign instead of repeating what atc said...

ATC: American 54 turn next left

AA Pilot: American 54

[bronco8585]

It was a good save, that's what it was.

[mdo686]

Looked good to me!

[jamie190595]

i have a vid of my landing... hopefully trying to do my solo on my 16th birthday!! :D

check it out!

[elcasquito]

better than my landings. it dropped right from underneath him, but recuperated nicely and kept the nose from touchind down hard,. Good landing

[jboycub7]

that's what pilots call a "one two" landing, not good, but not bad either

[cozcoz2010]

dont see anything wrong with that :\

[tiomawi]

you can se the windshear at 0:20

[tiomawi]

GOOD landing , skilled pilot (captain) , bad landing configuration , but a fast and skilled flare. u can see at the threshold the airplane start to decent faster , could be a windshear . i say bad landing configuration because there was much flare in the landing , and that is not a right procedure for a normal landing .

[THESKYMASTER]

@tiomawi

How can you tell that the Captain was flying?

[carlsberg1964]

Better than I could do !!

[kzmooo17]

any landing you can walk on your feet is a good one. Any landing you can walk on your feet and the plane can be used again is an excellent one :)

This one is a very good one. It looks like a shear on the flare an a pretty steep slope on final approach.

[larrybueno]

IT LOOKS LIKE A WINDSHEAR ON THE THRESHOLD!

[Lettenbichler]

how about average?!

[donchitch]

it was a unique landing

[aircraftfreak737]

Considering there was some wind I guess it was a good landing! Any landing u can walk away from is a good landing!

[begamorta69]

For me...........BAD.............

[Planespotter11]

How can you guys say if it was a good or bad landing if you don't have the wind component if at that time, if you dont know if there was any windshear, if you don't know the aircraft's weight, etc...

[DENEBOBI]

low speed landing.......dangerous

[skudrunners]

@DENEBOBI

All landing are low speed otherwise they won't land. I assume you do not fly with a comment like that.

[cupomash2]

Simple - landing is good not landing is not good.

[edsgoldens1]

Starboard to port to starboad main wheel touchdowns are noy unusual. No problem with that landing.

[wizzair1313]

STOP CRITICIZING THIS LANDING!! Landings at Manchester can be VERY difficult! This was a AWESOME landing!! Every landing is good! As long as you don't suffer for it!!

[TheRevJonnyNemo]

@wizzair1313 ...my uncle (pilot) used to say: "any landing you can walk away from was a great one."

[d0rkiishchris]

The 767 is actually kind of tricky to land. It can hold so much weight and the plane rolls-out very differently depending on how much fuel weight it has left over. If it has quite a bit of fuel left over, heavy, i will usually reduce power but not all the way at about 20ft and kind of just fly it onto the runway. If its light, 5% fuel remaining, I'll idle the engines at 30ft, and begin the roll out very late (20 ft). This pilot looked like he cut the power a bit soon.

[Edwiness]

@d0rkiishchris AFAIK 767 pilots also fly the 757 and they have different landing characteristics. This could be another factor. Also, the 767 has downward tilting landing gear which seems to make landings firmer, like the A380.

[XosrovTheGreat]

as we know autopilot can land aircraft smoothly and safely, so why always pilots land manually even in good weather?

[olioli917]

probably some wind too..

[timecop73]

not the best of lanidngs,but like everyone said here,if the passengers and the plane is safe then its better to give credit to the pilot..

[mmichaeldonavon]

It was "OK"; just looked like the approach speed was a bit less than it should have been. Probably caused by the "high attitude floating" approach. He did, however, pull it all together, at the end, and all was well that ended well!

[smartdon007]

Does American never fly one of those 4 engine planes ? All the way from US on a 2 engine 1 ?

[furtif000]

CA ARRIVE UN JOUR OU L'AUTRE ! ya pas de pilote qui n'a jamais connus ca ! .... en plus on a pas les données de l'atterrissage.. donc ;)

[Coaljet]

I'd say it was a good landing. He corrected the heavy sink rate just in time. A bit wobbly, but all ended well.

[xMrBrun0x]

Bad landing

[iguanaboy100]

not the best 

[R0YN0198]

AIRPLANE WHEELIE!!

[Rwy02]

Pilot in control probably had to scatch his balls or something

[Transam941]

Looks like a cross wind landing to me.

[overlordplumo]

This could have been far worse. There is a video where a FedEx flight lands in Tokyo. One gear hits by itself, snaps and the aircraft disintegrates. Killed both pilots.

[jeremypenuta]

everyone has rough landings!

[TheMichken]

Looks like a text book cross wind landing. One set of wheels then the other right?

[samueljcat]

what is bad is the ATC giving an updated QNH at that stage of final approach. But otherwise it appears they encountered sink over the threshold and made a satisfactory landing.

[blackdog0301]

@samueljcat If you listen carefully, they were giving the pilot an updated QNH number that likely updated just then and passed it on.

[KoQBoss]

or had touch down ...

[KoQBoss]

the right mature had dropped down at first --> thats not so good :D

but the passengers are happy that the plane generally lands.

[Flyglobespan93]

A bit rough, But good landing, THEY WALKED AWAY! SO WHAT CAN YOU SAY?

[veg818]

Notice how the Right hand wing (our Left) dropped just before touch down-

Maybe caused by a bit of wake turbulance caused by a large aircraft just arriving ahead of it.

On that basis great landing and control!

[Huevinh]

Bad Landing....

[vfrl7r]

Any landing in which you can use the plane again is a 'great landing'

[Blackarrow8918]

very bad landing

[blairoldham]

Look at the tail rudder, not too hard to see there is quite a strong cross-wind.

[appleglory]

it was abit rough 

[sheldonholy]

You do know that if you do a landing in say a 737 'by the book', you are actually drop it onto the deck quite firmly, because then it's less likely to bounce and veer off the runway. However if you're really greasing it in and get some wind shear...

[maddooggg]

ok landing.. not much of a flare.. just a quick transition to the runway. no prob with that !

[blastdesal]

Very BAD landing, shure ¡¡¡¡¡¡

[blastdesal]

Very BAD landing, shure ¡¡¡¡¡¡

[Fsadon]

I think its bad i have done teriible but planes arent saposed to bounce on lading i think that his flare was also too high

[SpeedyNeutrino43]

Most likely a very good landing...the pilot was obviously dealing with a cross wind.

[iwantpk2]

More like a fun landing haha

27 people were on that plane

[bighaben]

Looked like it had some windy conditions, perhaps a decent crosswind which can really rock a plane on short approach, so it was a fantastic landing considering the conditions.

[appleglory]

@bighaben wind was only 10knots

[hancock63663]

good landing for manchester, i landed home so many times in worse.

[Daedalus317]

Any landing you can walk away from is a 'good landing'!

[CessnaAviator317]

@Daedalus317 Any landing you can use the plane again is a 'Great Landing'!

[90Blakey]

@Daedalus317 no actully. a good landing=smooth landing. it was a bad landing

[MrAXDM]

@Daedalus317  What if you're handicapped?

[MrDenizen]

Seemed kind of clumsy.

[bumpa25]

It didn't touch down level on main gear, might be a crosswind or gusts or maybe just a rookie pilot landing in calm weather...

[jetairways773]

not bad

[jpro747]

i think it was well recovered it looked like it was dropping like a tonne of bricks!!

[grimlock1944]

i didnt blow and kill anyone so its a good landing

[LLCoolCLo]

This was a very good landing. Keep in mind this plane weighs about 400K pounds.

[superpilote31]

Out of the bounce... this is an awesome landing!

[loco151a1]

Bravo!!!!!!! 

[funnydogger]

ooh love it. very stylish. i love how the 767 dances.

[mythicalireland]

Not the most glamorous of touchdowns ever but safe enough!!

[capartguerra]

When you think you will make an excellent landing, it happens!!!

[joerox135]

The landing wasnt terrible at all, it was a ok landing, it seems from the video the pilot didn't quite flare high enough to compensate for the amout of drop he was getting but he pulled back a bit before he touched down so that was alright. all in all landing was safe and thats all that matters.

[bruninhooskt]

nice landing they just adjusted the main gear on the runway

[MARCELLAO1111]

UUUUUHHHHUUUU VERY NICE!!!!!!

[hammer3456]

like ms flight simulator landings

[joemasiclat]

Nothing wrong with that landing. Perfectly normal crosswind landing.

[thermo1984]

I agree with Mrfun07 you can hear him spool up just before landing to avoid landing shallow. Then I am sure the crosswinds kicked in and changed the perfect landing.

[TheAgarrity2622]

bad landing

[jinxed071202]

I HATE AMERICAN, THEY WONT DO ANYTHING FOR US CONTROLLERS, ITS LIKE PULLING TEETH

[jayvon65]

not bad they just lost a little balance

[Aviator1111]

Looks like that one was handed to the first officer and captain jumped in.....

[Napoleone747]

Well do you know what US Navy pilots say? "If you survived from a landing, well it is good". Manchester is not a easy Airport. It iis subject to heavy crosswinds and landing is not so easy in this condition. Well i think this landing is not bad...

[Jackle61]

Not the best but I wouldn't call it bad. Been on much worse.

[mrfun07]

Excessive sink rate that was caused by the pilots late attempt to apply more power. You can hear the engines spooling up, but the lag time between adding power, and getting it, is a lot longer than most of us realize. . . Up to seven seconds, or even longer. . . I'm sure the weather contributed as well. Some mild windshear, or crosswind gust, although I don't see much control surface activity. I think it's a mis-judged sink rate.

[nealsym49]

Been on worse ! 

[foopy6]

there's no such thing as a bad landing. if you got the passengers and the plane on the ground, id say thats a good landing.

[Tracer2k]

thats a nice landing for a crosswind landing

[KartKing4ever]

Any landing you walk away from is a good one.

[tbe555]

YES LANDING IS CONSIDERED HARD @ Due to cross wind effect they lost airspeed and couldn arrest verticall speed properly ! during flare !

Early Thrust retard ! Next time take in accont thant ground effect is blow away in crosswind condition !

[WEBSTA380]

thats not a bad landing!

[Scofield201093]

thts a gd landing :)

[zitro72]

Good landing !!!

[ZbmwM5]

Looked to me like they lost some speed / airspeed and had to give it some juice to decrease the sink rate.... 

[jgalvin69]

1200 firm, but that is ok.

[Timrabladet]

Just a bit gusty x wind, not a bad landing

[gogamich]

Normal landing

[TheSoccerGoalkeeper]

A landing you can walk away from is a good landing.