Hmm, got mixed feelings about this scene..but I guess it had to do how Hollywood looked at women at that time,..and think Cooper and Neal were a "couple" then,
Ya know, when I was a kid, Patricia Neil had already had a stroke and was doing Folgers coffee commercials. As a boy I considered her kinda goofy. Now that I'm older and have seen what a gorgeous woman she was and what a fine actress she was, I really appreciate her on many levels. She was an amazing woman.
These movie clips completely destroyed my vision of all these characters. I'm not going to watch anymore of them...They just clash so much with the integrity of the story and the integrity of the characters.
this is just so wrong. they seem much too old. and its done in the whole 40s swooning woman style, with her tripping and crying. its not meant to be that way. what a shame.
I know it's the old days and movies were different, But I have in my own mind how The Fountainhead looks and feels. . watching these clips seems to cheapen it. The Fountainhead is so good. It's a classic. Things like that, especially this story, should be left alone.
@danielngayla....they didnt ignore it but they implied it when howard roark forces himself into her room and then she runs out and falls .....see the grin on his face?
I purcfased this DVD as soon as it was available. Both of these actors were great. I play it over and over again because of the acting and the role both stars exhibit with such a great sense of integrity. Sorry they don't make movies like this anymore. I remember when her child was severely injured in Manhattan. As a result I always ask mothers or caretakers to please keep the strollers on the sidewalk until taffic has stopped..God Bless her and may she rest in peace. Pat Sumner RN BS
Patricia Neal was a gifted actress and a truly great lady. Why don't you remove these stupid remarks from people who choose to call all women such awful names. These idiots are uneducated morons....and in one case 16 years old. Who are they to comment on someone who was a great star and loved by millions. At 16 they know nothing.
@aVeryStylishGirl2 I agree with you--for the most part. I'm familiar with JuanMacready. He's one of an odd breed of trolls that enjoys spouting hate on classic actors. I don't think it has anything to do with his education level. There are trolls of all ages.
And before you ask--yes, I am 17 and sticking up for myself. I'm not college-educated, but I'm not ignorant either. Gary Cooper happens to be one of my favorite actors, and I didn't exactly take kindly towards Juan's remarks about him.
@aVeryStylishGirl2 While I disagree that age has as much as you say to associate with intellect, I do agree that Patricia was a talented person, and will always be remembered as such by most who know or knew of her.
Age only determines, in itself, age; how developed something is, not its mind, necessarily. Ignorance or personal interests are the biggest players I see in the argument, and as far I see, what have the largest influence on it.
Rape fantasies and selfishness. What made Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal great was their ability to sell this crap with absolute conviction. Really, considering the film on it's technical merits- production design and cinematography, it's first rate. Where it falls down is in the story itself. Randian fanboys can at the very least be glad it wasn't the absolute, comprehensive disaster Battlefield Earth was for Scientologists.
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@ladylike1980 I'm glad the talentless bisexual child murderer Cooper died screaming in agony from cancer at only 60. Let's hope the ugly whore's death was just as painful.
This movie bombed when it opened and is still a joke today. See it in a theatre with an audience, and you will hear everyone laugh at the silliness of it all. It's a comically bad film.
It would be hard to remake The Fountainhead, because the novel it was based on is a such a dated, silly potboiler.
It's weird that right-wing conservatives continue to embrace Ayn Rand as one of their own. She was an atheist who rejected any social or legal sanction of personal moral choices.
When the heck are they gonna remake THIS film? This is my favorite book and this movie feels dated not timeless like the book! I think Ralph Fiennes should be Howard Roark he has the perfect face. I see Charlize Theron playing Dominique, Maggie Gyllenhaal playing Katie Halsey and Ben Kingsley playing Ellsworth Toohey. I guess Ashton Kutcher or Keanu Reeves can play Keating.
I see Patricia in this clip and think Kate McGrew [ aka Capt janeway] would make a ideal person to do Patricia's Llife story... they both look and sound a like...
In real life you'd need stitches for a flesh wound like that. Next scene Cooper's face is as perfect as ever. It's called continuity, and is a thing of reality and should therefore be nitpicked by objectivists.
Also: Rand must have been stoned when writing this. What is the story about anyway? They love each other, they fuck: end of the story and can be narrated in the timespan of a Nescafé commercial. 770 pages are pure kitsch.
I enjoy old films because more often than not they are ridiculous and I still feel I'm watching a film. It's selfish I know, but then again I'm ok wth that. :)
Actually, no. Story is much more than a Nescafe´commercial. Rarely, if ever, do movies properly adapt novels into films. Book more layered, more detailed, and better shot. The Fountainhead Rand.
Rand was not trying to be concise. She was trying to make a point. Additionally Howard Roark was too busy to have a lover, that's why it wasn't that simple. Imbecile.
By the way, I looked up some vitals on this film, and apparently the music was scored by Max Steiner, who also scored Gone with the Wind, and a number of great films from the 30's & 40's (my favorites of which are King Kong, Top Hat, GWTW, Sergeant York, Arsenic and Old Lace, and Casablanca).
I just find it interesting that Gary Cooper is starring in this film, and while I had never heard of it before now (only that its title was a novel written by Ayn Rand), while reading Atlas Shrugged, I could see clearly in my mind the role of Hank Reardon being played by Gary Cooper, and that its as though it had been a role written FOR him. No other character in Atlas Shrugged seems beg to be identified like that, although now that I've seen this, I can see how Patricia Neal as Dagny Taggart.
The powerplay between Roark and Dominique is just too ridiculous. Every time she tries to dominate him, he teaches her a lesson she won't forget... finally ending with her sitting at his feed making her love confession. - I like the rest of the film very much
The Rothschild banking empire has been installing puppet politicians like Obama (sotoro, or whatever his name is) for a long time. Although I loathe him, the real pity is that young people are so stupid and brainwashed to actually support him,
Winston Churchill once said something to the effect that "anyone 20 years-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and anyone 40 years-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." It isn't a problem with the young people, because they are typically feelings-oriented people. The problem are the over-40 imbeciles who the young follow (like Obama), who still feed on the shit that is destroying the world. They are either complete idiots, or are consumed by evil.
Good perspective -- I love that quote (I think you've got it right on). Though I've long wondered if he wanted to say that anyone over 40 who isn't a conservative ALSO doesn't have a heart. The reason I'm a conservative (I'm over 40) is because I maintain my sense of empathy -- I weap for the enslavement that liberalism feeds on.
I have thought that today's liberalism (which is nothing like what liberalism was just 40 years ago) was the abolition of emancipation before I had read anything by Ayn Rand. It only stands to reason that if the state can dictate how much one can earn through taxation and wealth redistribution, that all that is is destruction of universal freedoms and the subsidization of poverty. Rand's ideas regarding individual freedom and liberty pretty much validates what I've thought for years.
Read the book, folks, Read "Atlas Shrugged," too. Understand the ugly, gray socialists. Understand what they stand for.
Obama is the enemy of true progress. Look at those he surrounds himself with. Understand his outright falsehoods. He is nothing but a narcissistic Power Pig.
Damn those who seek power for power's sake! They are sick in the head. We shouldn't have to pay the price for one man's inflated ego.
Lots of bickering going on - on these comments pages. There are some serious anger issues with you lot. You created your reality and you don't like it . Geez.. Who's problem is that.. May as well be mine as you lot can't own any of your stuff and continue to live in the past where you probably weren't even playing a role at that time/place period. Utter insanity and B.S. comments. Own your crap and move on and pull a positive thought and change your reality. I dare you..
They should remake this movie and have Roark work for Donald Trump, and he is mad because Trump changed the design of the tower he designed so be blows up Trump Tower - while it is full of guests...
You're reaching wrt to "pro-terrorism". Roark detenotes the bomb at the building when no one was around to be injured. What this movie promotes is violent rebellion against an oppressive state.
I saw some of your comments in other clips and it seems you are mentally de-ranged motherfucker...if you dont like Randian phiosphy espouse your own but dont copy bs
This movie is pro-individual. Anyone who champions collectivism only does so due to a lack of self-esteem. Only if you doubted your ability, right, and responsibility to create your own happiness would you attempt to secure it through the looting of others.
Some people ARE better than others. All people are NOT born equal. Deal with that reality, and leave the producers to their work. They will help you more indirectly than they will by your hijacking of their achievements.
"Only if you doubted your ability, right, and responsibility to create your own happiness would you attempt to secure it through the looting of others."
Hope you don't mind if I quote that eloquent statement.
A man who destroys an empty building he designed and was not paid for is a terrorist? I don't understand why people are so aggressive towards Rand. Howard Roark would never destroy a building filled with people, Roark believes in LIBERTY, anyone who believes in liberty would not take it from someone else- men who believe in freedom do not want to take it from other men. You are free to think what you want but I feel sorrow for anyone who lives for someone else's happiness.
1:10 who is that? Pasquale Orsini...hahaha! the typical stereotype of little italian monster. To mark the difference with the gorgeous Gary Cooper they couldn't choose nothing else than a Pasquale Orsini...don't worry madam thake it like a little advance.
Obama everywhere...what a bore! I expect to find him even in my toilet :-) come on, move over! back to that scene. CHEMISTRY! that's the thin line that marks the difference from a rape and a sordid wild intercurse.
The truly best part about works such as Ayn Rand's besides imparting and communicating a great philosophy, is that it exposes in real life, the boneheads, dolts, morons, leeches and parasites she describes in her works. They always feel threatened by her and people like her and must attack and debase others around them.
It's obvious you have little understanding of women. She wanted it, pure and simple. She wanted it from an Alpha, thus, she not only didn't press charges, she pursued Howard before and after their sleeping together and pressed him to marry her and later did marry him. It's obvious you are just another douchebag Ayn Rand and freedom hater.
Right; I bet you rape women all the time saying...theys wuz asking fer it Sheriff.
Maybe you can get a part in the remake of Deliverance some day. As an "alpha Male" taking it up the ass by a brother. I'd pay to see that ...Johnny Reb...who believes in "freedom"...um cept for dem colored folk.
Thanks for confirming you are just a brainless and gutless douchebag. As far as women go, let's just say I have more than my far share because compared to douchebags like you I understand how to communicate with them and attract them. You sound like just another dickless liberal. My only question for you is: did you doctor prescribe Zoloft or Prozac for you? You limp dicked faggot.
Just think: If you become an Objectivist, you can rape your boss's daughter and blow up buildings.
And if you're a hot rich chick with borderline personality disorder, you can rationalize your behavior as alienation from a corrupt world until you meet the Objectivist guy who can handle his "drill" right.
Sure, that was a "rape". Amazing how many douchebag leftists have no idea about the way the world works or what women want even when they say "no". And yes, there is a difference between, "no", "no,no" which soons becomes "Yes, Yes!" and of course, "NO!". Read Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden to get a clue on this or better yet watch the way the world really works rather than the way you'd like it to be.
i don't like the choice of cooper as howard roark, since cooper looks much older than late 20's, and he's by no means a redhead-granted it's black and white, but his hair looks too dark. the only thing i might understand is his gaunt and defined, masculine features.
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I love your screenname! :)
AyRand was not a woman - call it GUT INSTICT or whatever; she's just an emotionally retarded female to the point where I can't call her a woman. There's just something fundamentally illogical about trying to organize ourselves in the spirit of selfishness.
You don't get it. Helping others gives us selfish pleasures. We can't choose to do anything for selfish reasons, because everything we do really is for selfish reasons. There's nothing wrong with that. People should help each other because they WANT to, not because they're FORCED to.
Wow, you are so right. I get pleasure when I give so I am altruistic because of the pleasure I gain. I don't get any from the looters that takes from me to and grant largess in the name of governement.
Yeah thats right... a disciplinarian is totally self-controlled, but she was just the opposite. Rourke was totally in self-control teaching her lessons.
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I cannot begin to imagine the kind of person that would want to see the moronic works of Ayn Rand rendered in the screen. Anyone who professes any sort of admiration for the books like Atlas Shrugged is clearly a philistine with unreasonable amounts of time in their hands. Anyone with genuine "materialist" interests would study economics and concern themselves with mathematics. Anyone with a genuine interest in philosophy would read the people Ayn Rand vulgarized for wannabe Napoleons
Atlas Shrugged is a novel. As in art. People with a genuine interest in romantic art would read it.
People with an interest in philosophy would read some of her non-fiction.
By the way, since you think it's wrong to read her works, I assume you haven't, so your decision to characterise it nonetheless leads me to believe you're a shallow, arogant idiot, who likes to pretend he's educated, but was always too lazy to actually educate himself.
Lara Croft Tomb Raider with silicone, Dagny? No mind, only force? Good fit. Brad Pitt as the stiff, withdrawn, pale faced, simpering Galt? Another good fit.
You see she is in the UN......Jolie is invloved in the UN. Rand actually had an essay for this..go ahead and type it on google. She shouldn't be cast. I would elaborate but I want to see if you are interested in what i say.
Jolie is not in the UN. She is a, "goodwill ambassador." Her only obligation is to travel to a country, smile and have her picture taken. She does not set policy, or have any gov responsibility.
There are many celebs who are goodwill ambassadors.
Look at her recent comment when she went to Thailand! Atlas Shrugged is my favorite novel and she stars in it! listen here: "we need to help these country's until they are self-reliant" now right until that fateful comment I backed her for the role, I was unfortunately wrong. Between you and me I want Charlize Theron to play the role.
Her last trip ended with a letter sent to the UNCHR, a complaint. Jolie as a private citizen may comment, as a goodwill ambassador it's inappropriate.
Atlas Shrugged is off the table. Lionsgate has dropped it's option, Jolie will not be playing Dagny. Don't expect to see activity on this film for 3-5 years.
Will we EVER see a movie version of ATLAS SHRIUGGED? We need this to be widely distributed, NOW MORE THAN EVER! Brad Pitt gets my vote as John Galt! Who do you see as Dagney Taggart?
angelina jolie (who is perfect) is confirmed to play dagny if atlas is indeed to be made which i doubt. i mean how the hell will john galts speech be in a movie.
This is a pretty good movie. It's funny how some of these old movies can contain scenes that can be so cheesy and laughable, and at the same time not only watchable, but entertaining. It cracks me up the long cigarette pauses. They're hilarious. Such drama around smoking a cigarette. I still love these movies though. Thanks.
They really shhould redo the The Fountainhead. HBO should make it into a miniseries or something. The novel's true content was too risque for film back then but now I think audiences would be more appreciative.
Good idea with the mini series. It's such an epic story, I don't think it could be made into a movie and still be true to the story. My only fear is that they would focus too much on the Howard/Dominique relationship (just because it's a typical love story) and not the relationship between the other characters or even Howard and his love of architecture.
Hmm, got mixed feelings about this scene..but I guess it had to do how Hollywood looked at women at that time,..and think Cooper and Neal were a "couple" then,
tahina45 5 days ago
Ya know, when I was a kid, Patricia Neil had already had a stroke and was doing Folgers coffee commercials. As a boy I considered her kinda goofy. Now that I'm older and have seen what a gorgeous woman she was and what a fine actress she was, I really appreciate her on many levels. She was an amazing woman.
AA6RH 7 months ago 2
Why must the film industry butcher every book they get their hands on?
annienewhouse12 7 months ago
She needs to get better fitting shoes....she's keeps falling down all over the place....
jdcc061 7 months ago
God, she's clumsy.
Deaglan56 8 months ago
wierd
not a good representation of the book
lemaa15 8 months ago 2
Before womens liberation of today! but this is the way things were at the time,
females were helpless and fradgile fainting property of men. Yet this film had
drama and style for its time. A true work of art.
globehunter2 9 months ago
I hate the way she cries. That's not Dominique Francon, and this isn't how it was supposed to happen.
SculptedThoughts 9 months ago
These movie clips completely destroyed my vision of all these characters. I'm not going to watch anymore of them...They just clash so much with the integrity of the story and the integrity of the characters.
lcoz145 9 months ago
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That's how those movies were made back then I guess.
p3ntacle 7 months ago
Rape in an old timey way. . .
HyperboreanRex 9 months ago
Gary Cooper is NOT Howard Roark... In my head at least...
jmbekrub 10 months ago 3
howard roark;s image in my mind clashed with gary's......
MsLaleeta 10 months ago
howard roark;s image in my mind clashed with gary's......
MsLaleeta 10 months ago
this is just so wrong. they seem much too old. and its done in the whole 40s swooning woman style, with her tripping and crying. its not meant to be that way. what a shame.
itsme127 1 year ago
I know it's the old days and movies were different, But I have in my own mind how The Fountainhead looks and feels. . watching these clips seems to cheapen it. The Fountainhead is so good. It's a classic. Things like that, especially this story, should be left alone.
GiovanniDestron 1 year ago
Wow, that was so much more stupid than it was in the book, and it was so stupid in the book.
zandreanw 1 year ago
@zandreanw Please define stupid. If you think a heroic speech explicitely stating a person's views in opposition to the rest of mankind is stupid...
loserhailose 1 year ago
@danielngayla....they didnt ignore it but they implied it when howard roark forces himself into her room and then she runs out and falls .....see the grin on his face?
khokhar1969 1 year ago
That's not my idea of Dominque Francon... but oh, well...
satinbox 1 year ago
Amazing....... i love you but i know i dont belong here........ hard thing to say but he said it without saying a word
rajivkuin 1 year ago
This clip seems to have every old-movie cliche possible! Wonderful.
Clivepom 1 year ago
Fucking awful film with a far too old Cooper at his most wooden.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
I haven't seen the movie but did read the book. How did they do the rape scene, or did they just ignore it alltogether?
danielngayla 1 year ago
Dominique was years ahead of her time. She displayed borderline personality disorder and self-cutting (in the bombing scene) before they became cool.
conradjulian 1 year ago
@conradjulian she wasn't cutting herself out of masochism, dude, it was to make it seem like she had been hurt by the blast
captaindiversity 1 year ago
I purcfased this DVD as soon as it was available. Both of these actors were great. I play it over and over again because of the acting and the role both stars exhibit with such a great sense of integrity. Sorry they don't make movies like this anymore. I remember when her child was severely injured in Manhattan. As a result I always ask mothers or caretakers to please keep the strollers on the sidewalk until taffic has stopped..God Bless her and may she rest in peace. Pat Sumner RN BS
Lilsumner5924 1 year ago
rip patrica o'neal
missamelie17 1 year ago
Patricia Neal was a gifted actress and a truly great lady. Why don't you remove these stupid remarks from people who choose to call all women such awful names. These idiots are uneducated morons....and in one case 16 years old. Who are they to comment on someone who was a great star and loved by millions. At 16 they know nothing.
aVeryStylishGirl2 1 year ago 11
@aVeryStylishGirl2 I agree with you--for the most part. I'm familiar with JuanMacready. He's one of an odd breed of trolls that enjoys spouting hate on classic actors. I don't think it has anything to do with his education level. There are trolls of all ages.
And before you ask--yes, I am 17 and sticking up for myself. I'm not college-educated, but I'm not ignorant either. Gary Cooper happens to be one of my favorite actors, and I didn't exactly take kindly towards Juan's remarks about him.
magenta1000 1 year ago
@aVeryStylishGirl2 While I disagree that age has as much as you say to associate with intellect, I do agree that Patricia was a talented person, and will always be remembered as such by most who know or knew of her.
Age only determines, in itself, age; how developed something is, not its mind, necessarily. Ignorance or personal interests are the biggest players I see in the argument, and as far I see, what have the largest influence on it.
Lucario2094 6 months ago
This stupid bitch. The character, not Patricia Neal.
DolphinScare 1 year ago
R. I . P Patricia Neal.
Riana2134 1 year ago
I loved Gary Cooper!!!!!
ladyblue614 1 year ago
Great Movie, Great Actress, Great Book.
Mellymoo1 1 year ago
Rape fantasies and selfishness. What made Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal great was their ability to sell this crap with absolute conviction. Really, considering the film on it's technical merits- production design and cinematography, it's first rate. Where it falls down is in the story itself. Randian fanboys can at the very least be glad it wasn't the absolute, comprehensive disaster Battlefield Earth was for Scientologists.
shadow1961 1 year ago 2
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I'm glad Cooper and Neal both died of lung cancer.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Fucking charming!
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ladylike1980 1 year ago
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@ladylike1980 The talentless ugly chain smoking skank whore Patricia Neal DID die of lung cancer, actually.
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@ladylike1980 I'm glad the talentless bisexual child murderer Cooper died screaming in agony from cancer at only 60. Let's hope the ugly whore's death was just as painful.
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@obrienuy1 I'd like to piss on her grave actually.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Ah 'makeup sex' is the best!
seahawk124 1 year ago
rip p. neal-
hswatnik 1 year ago
This movie bombed when it opened and is still a joke today. See it in a theatre with an audience, and you will hear everyone laugh at the silliness of it all. It's a comically bad film.
It would be hard to remake The Fountainhead, because the novel it was based on is a such a dated, silly potboiler.
It's weird that right-wing conservatives continue to embrace Ayn Rand as one of their own. She was an atheist who rejected any social or legal sanction of personal moral choices.
searcherboy 1 year ago
R.I.P. Beautiful.
luvthepursuit 1 year ago
Is there a point to this seen?
Andrewcranky 1 year ago
Dominique Francon should have a more desirable yet mysterious beauty :I
classoffrankster 1 year ago
think kevin spacey ,anjelina and russell crowe
deedsolove 1 year ago
dominique's voice isn't cool enough. its all stressed like some madam.
GoldenGhettoFilms 1 year ago
When the heck are they gonna remake THIS film? This is my favorite book and this movie feels dated not timeless like the book! I think Ralph Fiennes should be Howard Roark he has the perfect face. I see Charlize Theron playing Dominique, Maggie Gyllenhaal playing Katie Halsey and Ben Kingsley playing Ellsworth Toohey. I guess Ashton Kutcher or Keanu Reeves can play Keating.
jrmetmoi 1 year ago
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jrmetmoi 1 year ago
THE BOOK IS BETTER
descrates09 1 year ago
@descrates09 Lol. It always is. Although, the casting for Dominique was pretty much dead on.
AshillaBeige 1 year ago
@AshillaBeige Well, in her appearance.
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I see Patricia in this clip and think Kate McGrew [ aka Capt janeway] would make a ideal person to do Patricia's Llife story... they both look and sound a like...
nuttycomputer4u 2 years ago
Patricia Neal is young and hot! Cooper and Massey are way, way to old.
monky999 2 years ago
Patricia Neal is an attrractive woman.
repentorburnbaby 2 years ago 2
I love Patricia Neal. That face!
repentorburnbaby 2 years ago 3
That scar is ridiculously huge.
In real life you'd need stitches for a flesh wound like that. Next scene Cooper's face is as perfect as ever. It's called continuity, and is a thing of reality and should therefore be nitpicked by objectivists.
Also: Rand must have been stoned when writing this. What is the story about anyway? They love each other, they fuck: end of the story and can be narrated in the timespan of a Nescafé commercial. 770 pages are pure kitsch.
hyperseauton 2 years ago
@hyperseauton
I enjoy old films because more often than not they are ridiculous and I still feel I'm watching a film. It's selfish I know, but then again I'm ok wth that. :)
crazycoonster 2 years ago
Actually, no. Story is much more than a Nescafe´commercial. Rarely, if ever, do movies properly adapt novels into films. Book more layered, more detailed, and better shot. The Fountainhead Rand.
freezzertime 2 years ago
@hyperseauton
Rand was not trying to be concise. She was trying to make a point. Additionally Howard Roark was too busy to have a lover, that's why it wasn't that simple. Imbecile.
Expedio212 2 years ago
It's not a romance novel, friend.
Dactylus 1 year ago
The murderer Cooper was far too old for the part.
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
Okay supposedly shes like my aunt or something.
ActressOnTheMove 2 years ago
Patricia Neal looks a bit like Ayn Rand when she mean-mugs Gary Cooper like that.
TomStrong08 2 years ago 2
...Gary Cooper is so different from how I imagined Howard Roark to be
mistyblus2 2 years ago 26
... same here. i thought he'd be... well. they could had done better with casting.
frickinsavvy 2 years ago 2
@mistyblus2 I still see Gary Cooper as Lou Gehrig
skatepunkzero 7 months ago
Also, Ayn Rand is reminding me to revisit the culture that came out of Russia in the 20th century.
MrNicespaces 2 years ago
By the way, I looked up some vitals on this film, and apparently the music was scored by Max Steiner, who also scored Gone with the Wind, and a number of great films from the 30's & 40's (my favorites of which are King Kong, Top Hat, GWTW, Sergeant York, Arsenic and Old Lace, and Casablanca).
yohannbiimu 2 years ago
I just find it interesting that Gary Cooper is starring in this film, and while I had never heard of it before now (only that its title was a novel written by Ayn Rand), while reading Atlas Shrugged, I could see clearly in my mind the role of Hank Reardon being played by Gary Cooper, and that its as though it had been a role written FOR him. No other character in Atlas Shrugged seems beg to be identified like that, although now that I've seen this, I can see how Patricia Neal as Dagny Taggart.
yohannbiimu 2 years ago
The powerplay between Roark and Dominique is just too ridiculous. Every time she tries to dominate him, he teaches her a lesson she won't forget... finally ending with her sitting at his feed making her love confession. - I like the rest of the film very much
realmagiclover 2 years ago
She disciplines ???
... and later she lies down at the man's feet - a few times :)
realmagiclover 2 years ago
The Rothschild banking empire has been installing puppet politicians like Obama (sotoro, or whatever his name is) for a long time. Although I loathe him, the real pity is that young people are so stupid and brainwashed to actually support him,
tawny624 2 years ago
Obama Rules 4 Ever!
PeterFirthFan 2 years ago
Forever. The last president ?
vivaloriflamme 2 years ago
Winston Churchill once said something to the effect that "anyone 20 years-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart, and anyone 40 years-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." It isn't a problem with the young people, because they are typically feelings-oriented people. The problem are the over-40 imbeciles who the young follow (like Obama), who still feed on the shit that is destroying the world. They are either complete idiots, or are consumed by evil.
yohannbiimu 2 years ago 2
Good perspective -- I love that quote (I think you've got it right on). Though I've long wondered if he wanted to say that anyone over 40 who isn't a conservative ALSO doesn't have a heart. The reason I'm a conservative (I'm over 40) is because I maintain my sense of empathy -- I weap for the enslavement that liberalism feeds on.
MrNicespaces 2 years ago
I have thought that today's liberalism (which is nothing like what liberalism was just 40 years ago) was the abolition of emancipation before I had read anything by Ayn Rand. It only stands to reason that if the state can dictate how much one can earn through taxation and wealth redistribution, that all that is is destruction of universal freedoms and the subsidization of poverty. Rand's ideas regarding individual freedom and liberty pretty much validates what I've thought for years.
yohannbiimu 2 years ago
40 years ago. I must be an old man because "I can remember it like it was yesterday." What say we all re-read Animal Farm. I continue to weep.
MrNicespaces 2 years ago
Read the book, folks, Read "Atlas Shrugged," too. Understand the ugly, gray socialists. Understand what they stand for.
Obama is the enemy of true progress. Look at those he surrounds himself with. Understand his outright falsehoods. He is nothing but a narcissistic Power Pig.
Damn those who seek power for power's sake! They are sick in the head. We shouldn't have to pay the price for one man's inflated ego.
soco13466 2 years ago 3
Also look at the concept of rational self-interest, which means being a selfish pig with no consideration anyone else or the outcome of his actions.
tomestubbs 2 years ago
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poopster102 1 year ago
I love the look she gives him after she strikes him.
pookiehohn 2 years ago
Who is greater? Howard Roark or Chuck Norris?
Budguy68 2 years ago
Since Chuck Norris did that whole "I want the Bible taught in class" thing, he's a bit lame... I'm voting for Roark.
AshillaBeige 2 years ago
Howard Roark by a landslide.
pookiehohn 2 years ago
Lots of bickering going on - on these comments pages. There are some serious anger issues with you lot. You created your reality and you don't like it . Geez.. Who's problem is that.. May as well be mine as you lot can't own any of your stuff and continue to live in the past where you probably weren't even playing a role at that time/place period. Utter insanity and B.S. comments. Own your crap and move on and pull a positive thought and change your reality. I dare you..
69Whitehawk 2 years ago
They should remake this movie and have Roark work for Donald Trump, and he is mad because Trump changed the design of the tower he designed so be blows up Trump Tower - while it is full of guests...
You should know that this movie is pro-terrorism.
lordhighexecutioner 2 years ago
You're reaching wrt to "pro-terrorism". Roark detenotes the bomb at the building when no one was around to be injured. What this movie promotes is violent rebellion against an oppressive state.
Xtro2005 2 years ago 10
What the movie protests is theft.
DonMeaker 2 years ago 2
@Xtro2005 Ah, just like Bill Ayers.
jesushatesyoutoo 9 months ago
I saw some of your comments in other clips and it seems you are mentally de-ranged motherfucker...if you dont like Randian phiosphy espouse your own but dont copy bs
Dhonigk 2 years ago
This movie is pro-individual. Anyone who champions collectivism only does so due to a lack of self-esteem. Only if you doubted your ability, right, and responsibility to create your own happiness would you attempt to secure it through the looting of others.
Some people ARE better than others. All people are NOT born equal. Deal with that reality, and leave the producers to their work. They will help you more indirectly than they will by your hijacking of their achievements.
gbrlhppr 2 years ago
"Only if you doubted your ability, right, and responsibility to create your own happiness would you attempt to secure it through the looting of others."
Hope you don't mind if I quote that eloquent statement.
RodCornholio 2 years ago
A man who destroys an empty building he designed and was not paid for is a terrorist? I don't understand why people are so aggressive towards Rand. Howard Roark would never destroy a building filled with people, Roark believes in LIBERTY, anyone who believes in liberty would not take it from someone else- men who believe in freedom do not want to take it from other men. You are free to think what you want but I feel sorrow for anyone who lives for someone else's happiness.
Crashtest517 2 years ago 3
so true...that is why The Joker's philosphy is defunct.
freezzertime 2 years ago
1:10 who is that? Pasquale Orsini...hahaha! the typical stereotype of little italian monster. To mark the difference with the gorgeous Gary Cooper they couldn't choose nothing else than a Pasquale Orsini...don't worry madam thake it like a little advance.
yepheth 2 years ago
Obama everywhere...what a bore! I expect to find him even in my toilet :-) come on, move over! back to that scene. CHEMISTRY! that's the thin line that marks the difference from a rape and a sordid wild intercurse.
yepheth 2 years ago
The truly best part about works such as Ayn Rand's besides imparting and communicating a great philosophy, is that it exposes in real life, the boneheads, dolts, morons, leeches and parasites she describes in her works. They always feel threatened by her and people like her and must attack and debase others around them.
TheSouthWasRight2250 2 years ago 2
In the book he rapes her...never understood how that was ok with Ayn. She was one weird chick. See Helen Mirren's portryal of her.
In real life these two were fuck buddies;
Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper
Rexicano 2 years ago
Rexicano,
It's obvious you have little understanding of women. She wanted it, pure and simple. She wanted it from an Alpha, thus, she not only didn't press charges, she pursued Howard before and after their sleeping together and pressed him to marry her and later did marry him. It's obvious you are just another douchebag Ayn Rand and freedom hater.
TheSouthWasRight2250 2 years ago
Any asshole with a name like;
The South was Right
can walk by and keep their advice to themselves.
Right; I bet you rape women all the time saying...theys wuz asking fer it Sheriff.
Maybe you can get a part in the remake of Deliverance some day. As an "alpha Male" taking it up the ass by a brother. I'd pay to see that ...Johnny Reb...who believes in "freedom"...um cept for dem colored folk.
Brain dead asshole; the South Lost; get over it.
Join the 21st century. GO OBAMA!
Rexicano 2 years ago
Rexicano,
Thanks for confirming you are just a brainless and gutless douchebag. As far as women go, let's just say I have more than my far share because compared to douchebags like you I understand how to communicate with them and attract them. You sound like just another dickless liberal. My only question for you is: did you doctor prescribe Zoloft or Prozac for you? You limp dicked faggot.
TheSouthWasRight2250 2 years ago
Just think: If you become an Objectivist, you can rape your boss's daughter and blow up buildings.
And if you're a hot rich chick with borderline personality disorder, you can rationalize your behavior as alienation from a corrupt world until you meet the Objectivist guy who can handle his "drill" right.
conradjulian 2 years ago
I like the way you think!
kelseybeann13 2 years ago
Conradjulian,
Sure, that was a "rape". Amazing how many douchebag leftists have no idea about the way the world works or what women want even when they say "no". And yes, there is a difference between, "no", "no,no" which soons becomes "Yes, Yes!" and of course, "NO!". Read Nancy Friday's My Secret Garden to get a clue on this or better yet watch the way the world really works rather than the way you'd like it to be.
TheSouthWasRight2250 2 years ago
Bravo... Bravo... Bravo!
versailles1986 2 years ago
It's just too bad the movie doesn't do the book justice.
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HilyandLeather 2 years ago
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That Ayn Rand was one crazy messed-up fuckin' bitch.
cornbruiser 2 years ago
Do you have evidence?
th3dark3rsh33p 2 years ago
Go read some more Marx
luthierjustin1 2 years ago
i don't like the choice of cooper as howard roark, since cooper looks much older than late 20's, and he's by no means a redhead-granted it's black and white, but his hair looks too dark. the only thing i might understand is his gaunt and defined, masculine features.
spe4kfr34ly 2 years ago
That grin at the end says "you gonna get raped" lol creepy fucker
HumanStrategy 2 years ago 2
Such drama all in 2:42.
kidstalkpolitics 2 years ago
"Would somebody get that damn orchestra out of here? It's very distracting!"
katotheother 2 years ago 3
lol gary cooper is not able to move or even separate the lips when talking ^^
shakespearespqr 2 years ago
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Most boring and stupid book I ever started reading was Atlas Shrugged. If you can finish, give yourself a pat on the back and go have an ice cream.
puppetmasterblaster 3 years ago
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I love your screenname! :)
AyRand was not a woman - call it GUT INSTICT or whatever; she's just an emotionally retarded female to the point where I can't call her a woman. There's just something fundamentally illogical about trying to organize ourselves in the spirit of selfishness.
Aspetta17 2 years ago
You don't get it. Helping others gives us selfish pleasures. We can't choose to do anything for selfish reasons, because everything we do really is for selfish reasons. There's nothing wrong with that. People should help each other because they WANT to, not because they're FORCED to.
myheadhurtsnow 2 years ago 13
Wow, you are so right. I get pleasure when I give so I am altruistic because of the pleasure I gain. I don't get any from the looters that takes from me to and grant largess in the name of governement.
lalise1 2 years ago 2
howard roark says, "it's time for a dicking."
nkmhardcore 3 years ago
lmao at 2:04; that's a Rand moment if I ever saw one.
MrNietzschesMustache 3 years ago 2
this aint discipline. this is some crazy bitch losing control.
wiseguyz123 3 years ago
Yeah thats right... a disciplinarian is totally self-controlled, but she was just the opposite. Rourke was totally in self-control teaching her lessons.
realmagiclover 2 years ago
How about Gwen Stefani as Dominique Francon in a new version? Christian Bale as Howard Roark?
Mrmikeshelton 3 years ago
Bale does better with bad or screwed up caracters. Have you seen his Batman? It stunk on ice.
Even though I don't like Clooney, I think he's the only moviestar today who could do a good Roark.
deinse81 3 years ago
I love film moir. But why was it so difficult for all the women to stay on their feet? lol
I loved the way her eyes dilated after she hit him with the riding crop.
JudiG 3 years ago
I have just had dinner - every evening with the old lady " who won an acadamy award - she had an affair with Gary Cooper - guess who?? xxx Australia
chersparkle 3 years ago
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I cannot begin to imagine the kind of person that would want to see the moronic works of Ayn Rand rendered in the screen. Anyone who professes any sort of admiration for the books like Atlas Shrugged is clearly a philistine with unreasonable amounts of time in their hands. Anyone with genuine "materialist" interests would study economics and concern themselves with mathematics. Anyone with a genuine interest in philosophy would read the people Ayn Rand vulgarized for wannabe Napoleons
adorimbo 3 years ago
True, but of course people read Ayn Rand for other things; things which this scene make abundantly obvious.
Tikilizzy 3 years ago
hahahaha..
kenrubes 3 years ago
LOL. you are so pathetic and hypocritical.
UpstairsMaid 3 years ago
Atlas Shrugged is a novel. As in art. People with a genuine interest in romantic art would read it.
People with an interest in philosophy would read some of her non-fiction.
By the way, since you think it's wrong to read her works, I assume you haven't, so your decision to characterise it nonetheless leads me to believe you're a shallow, arogant idiot, who likes to pretend he's educated, but was always too lazy to actually educate himself.
Am I getting warm?
deinse81 3 years ago 2
Lara Croft Tomb Raider with silicone, Dagny? No mind, only force? Good fit. Brad Pitt as the stiff, withdrawn, pale faced, simpering Galt? Another good fit.
Ciada91 3 years ago
You see she is in the UN......Jolie is invloved in the UN. Rand actually had an essay for this..go ahead and type it on google. She shouldn't be cast. I would elaborate but I want to see if you are interested in what i say.
freezzertime 3 years ago
Jolie is not in the UN. She is a, "goodwill ambassador." Her only obligation is to travel to a country, smile and have her picture taken. She does not set policy, or have any gov responsibility.
There are many celebs who are goodwill ambassadors.
Ciada91 2 years ago
Look at her recent comment when she went to Thailand! Atlas Shrugged is my favorite novel and she stars in it! listen here: "we need to help these country's until they are self-reliant" now right until that fateful comment I backed her for the role, I was unfortunately wrong. Between you and me I want Charlize Theron to play the role.
freezzertime 2 years ago
Her last trip ended with a letter sent to the UNCHR, a complaint. Jolie as a private citizen may comment, as a goodwill ambassador it's inappropriate.
Atlas Shrugged is off the table. Lionsgate has dropped it's option, Jolie will not be playing Dagny. Don't expect to see activity on this film for 3-5 years.
Ciada91 2 years ago
I am pleased to see Jolie of "the table". However, I am saddened to see the movie stalled!
freezzertime 2 years ago
Oh my God. 1:18 is hilarious.
Wonderbread167 3 years ago 4
those EYES
BakAtDarkCorner 3 years ago
Will we EVER see a movie version of ATLAS SHRIUGGED? We need this to be widely distributed, NOW MORE THAN EVER! Brad Pitt gets my vote as John Galt! Who do you see as Dagney Taggart?
billyguns2 3 years ago
angelina jolie (who is perfect) is confirmed to play dagny if atlas is indeed to be made which i doubt. i mean how the hell will john galts speech be in a movie.
Kinshasa9200 3 years ago
"i mean how the hell will john galts speech be in a movie."
Probably...the way they did Roark's speech?
Cover the essential points, while cutting to the different characters' reactions....
RushLimborg 3 years ago
oh my god. if they made a new movie of it, it would completely ruin the book for me.
lavenderdisaster 3 years ago
in addition to that, this one sort of does. gary cooper as roark just doesn't work.
lavenderdisaster 3 years ago 2
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Brad Pitt wanted to play Roark. I think he'd do a much better job. Cooper has the look, but his acting doesn't even come close.
rbilkie 3 years ago
i am exactly at this point in the book. and i have to say just by this scene alone, i can tell this movie is garbage. that's too bad.
Kinshasa9200 3 years ago
Well it won several oscars, and was loved by the critics, so I think you're totally wrong!
thekingofmoney2000 3 years ago
I read the book, and I would have to agree with you. Watching the movie without reading the book is fine, but the movie after the book is horrible.
BakAtDarkCorner 3 years ago
realy?
aatef1981 3 years ago
That's a shame, I'm going to watch the movie soon and just finished the book 2 weeks ago.
Carn55 3 years ago
This is a pretty good movie. It's funny how some of these old movies can contain scenes that can be so cheesy and laughable, and at the same time not only watchable, but entertaining. It cracks me up the long cigarette pauses. They're hilarious. Such drama around smoking a cigarette. I still love these movies though. Thanks.
evamarlow 4 years ago
although i am against adultrey i would've loved to see Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper end up together in real life i love their on srcreen chemistry.
keriah17 4 years ago
Hahaha, barely even comes close to the fact that he raped her. I still wish I could get a hold of this film.
theluscioussound 4 years ago
ohh the good ole dayz:P
checkoutmyprofile 4 years ago
doesn't do the book justice :(
Isosohungy 4 years ago 2
Patricia Neal was such a hottie...reason enough to see this movie.
FeellikeDirt 4 years ago
wrong!wrong! wrong!
this is an insult to the book!
the guy didn't even have red hair..
and she is not the most beautiful woman i have seen
she wasn't even half as sensual as Dominique's character
and don't even get me started on Gary Cooper.
the fact that rand had anything to do with this abomination is preposterous. all i have to say is WTF!!!!!?
artsyann 4 years ago 6
I could not agree more. I want to hang myself after seeing this shit.
DermochelysCoriacea 4 years ago 4
They really shhould redo the The Fountainhead. HBO should make it into a miniseries or something. The novel's true content was too risque for film back then but now I think audiences would be more appreciative.
origen01 3 years ago
That would be a great idea. HBO would do a terrific job I think.
DermochelysCoriacea 3 years ago
Lionsgate is currently developing Atlas Shrugged. Look up "Atlas Shrugged (film)" on wikipedia.
origen01 3 years ago
Damn they aren't any more....looks like they are still hopeful though...hope Charlize Theron is cast as Dagny though....not Jolie!
freezzertime 3 years ago
Good idea with the mini series. It's such an epic story, I don't think it could be made into a movie and still be true to the story. My only fear is that they would focus too much on the Howard/Dominique relationship (just because it's a typical love story) and not the relationship between the other characters or even Howard and his love of architecture.
sparkplugminuet 3 years ago
Man, when I read this part the music was a bit different
SeanCitizen 4 years ago
They are extremyly modern, in my imagination. The perfect Dominique would be Wendy Whelan.
organicjuice 4 years ago
ok my cast list for The Fountainhead would be:
Dominique Francon: Angelina Jolie
Guy Francon: Alan Alda
Peter Keating: Ryan Phillippe
Gail Wynand: Alec Baldwin
Elsworth M. Toohey: Michael Gambon
Henry Cameron: Gene Hackman
Not so sure on Howard Roark, but I'm thinking either Ed Norton or David Caruso.
origen01 3 years ago
i think angelina is an amazing actor, but i would disagree with you on her playing the character...i see cate blanchett...
iheartmichelangelo 3 years ago