What is beautiful about all these comments is this: You are all creating your own ideas through the words you think and finally type. It was your "god" mind that helped you to sort and finally materialize what you believe to be true. Why can't God be a mere thread in the world of universal intelligence. Why can't we all be tapping in to the same source and coming up with different answers/opinions/feelings. I suggest that we humans are merely parroting what the creative force does every moment.
I call myself an atheist, but I don't hate all religions. I do hate any ideology that says: "we're good everyone else is evil." Especially when all they have is dogma to back it up. Hang in there Pete, I like you.
@xXxDrRobxXx Nope.To believe in a God and Religion are two separate things. To be religious you have to follow a religion, scriptures and all kinds of man made ideas. To just believe in a God who made the Universe doesnt make you religious. Deism is a more scientific view of God and the most correct way of looking at things.
@funnystarchild The popular definition of Deism has been evolving over the last couple centuries (sadly). Originally, Deism meant: the standpoint that reason and observation of the natural world can determine that a supreme being created the universe. In recent years people have started thinking that the central part of Deism is believing in a God who doesn't interact with humans, this is only true for the so called "French Deists". The kind of deism that existed in enlightenement period France.
Deists are altruistic but when have religions been altruistic to either Deists or Atheists, The Golden Rule was agreed by every religion and practised by none.
@petebax1 You know poor Ayn Rand found Altruism to be false since everyone is really selfish. She was Atheist and also very intense when it came to people being totally responsible for their own actions and "motives." I would like to say to you Peter that I find it amazing to hear the language of love coming from the mouths of true Deists. Certain other people spew hatred and separation which is contrary to what it will take to heal this planet. I enjoy loving and being loved with/by my wife.
This guy trys to make Deism into Theism. Hes lying. Look up on wikipedia the difference between Deism and Theism. NO RELIGIOUS PERSON ARE DEISTS!!!!! Scientists are more likely to be Deists......
@funnystarchild I believe Deism is the natural state of all humans because of their genetic make up Theism is mankinds attempts to adapt the Golden Rule through religions. Most of the prophets are regarded as Gods by humans including Jesus.
Humans love to worship now they worship Science , Dawkins and Darwin.
Atheism is a religion of no God.
Deism is a belief in natural evolutiion of all existence.
This video also teaches the Golden Rule which is the same for every religion on earth. The Golden rule was given to every religion by our Genomes and it is the way God speaks to man. Every prophet in the history of mankind was given the same Golden Rule for thousands of years. Check this out on google. God spoke to everyone everywhere and it is time we listened. The Golden Rule is a fact not a belief.
@petebax1 "The golden rule has its roots in a wide range of world cultures, and is a standard which different cultures use to resolve conflicts. It was present in the philosophies of ancient India, Greece, Judea, and China. Principal philosophers and religious figures have stated it in different ways, Wikipedia"
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) and the Genomics Center at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center have recently found we can communicate with our Genes through Yoga, Meditation and Prayer. This is being used for healing so why shouldn't they communicate with us?
@TheSuzanSuzan , What wonderful news someone as just told me an Arab came up with the Theory of Evolution by natural selection 1000 years before Darwin using meditation I think he called it adapting to the environment. Which is a better name than natural selection. Darwin should have asked his genes.
Why did every religion teach the same thing commonly called the Golden Rule? Answer Because it is Genetic and we have been taught by our Genes. Like reincarnation is believed everywhere and if you say reincarnation of our genes it becomes a scientific fact.
The conclusion I have come to is that we can communicate with our Genes.
Altruism is what we used to call God.
We must look for the altruism within us and destroy the selfish gene.
I have taught the Lie about the selfish gene as a fact. When I look at society which was educated on this lie, selfish bankers, politicians, businessmen all grasping with their belief in the selfish gene I feel ashamed about what I have done. All I can do is say I am truly sorry.
@Fakenstien I believe The selfish Gene is a lie stolen off Bill Hamilton by Richard Dawkins and used to make millions in book sales. It as no bases in scientific fact
Richard Dawkins is a liar. Our genes like many other creatures are altruistic. A fact that as been independently researched by several universities. Altruism is a genetic quality of all humans. The lie about the selfish Gene began by Dawkins as made Dawkins rich and famous but it is a lie. Dawkins still is telling the lie although he knows he is wrong.
Having compassion and a desire to help others is a high value of civilization. Interestingly, children are innately born with a helpful, altruistic nature. According to research reported in the Stanford University News,
"From when they first begin to walk and talk and become truly cultural beings, young human children are naturally cooperative and helpful and altruistic."
God gave all children altruistic feelings for everything.
In the origin of the species Darwin acknowledged other forms of evolution other that natural selection and referred to it as his tree of life. I would like to amend that to the tree of death because 99% of all natural selection is now extinct. Amongst the different forms of selection is altruism practice by most animals especially bees and ants. Atheists would have us believe that we just have a selfish gene? Whereas Deists proclaim altruism for all things.
Am I an deist if I believe in stuff people would descibe as supernatural? I mean that I think the universe god created has infinite possibilities.God just created this universe and that all. I think astral projection is actually leaving the body. In a way if god created the universe everything we are doing is supernatural.
@travisbrummett Try reading NASAs explanation of the Big Bang Theory with its dark matter, dark information, dark energy, and dark flow, this more fantastic than anything man could ever dream of. Truth is stranger than fiction. According to science everything exists forever just depends on the space time your in? Try getting your head round that.
They have calculated that if the DNA in a single cell was stretched out it would stretch 20 billion miles. All by chance? It took a super-intelligence to design this.
@petebax1 Genome is the equivalent of nearly 70 trips from the earth to the sun and back. That's too small to be seen with the naked eye but as large as our solar system. Way beyond any human comprehension today. This was created by a monkey according to atheists.
@petebax1 The amount of information contained within each of our cells is staggering - equivalent to about 100 million printed pages. The mathematics to allow randomness and improvement must exist which most people would define as intelligence. Atheists claim this is by chance?
No, atheists do not believe this is by chance although there is an element of chance involved. In an environment of chaos, one single element of organization will direct all of the chaos back into order. Luckily for atheists, we understand that our universe does operate on chance, but has natural laws that drive all of the events therein. A rock falls, not by chance, but by gravity. Physics and chemistry drives the evolution of life, not chance.
@psychosavant You have just defined God he is the embodiment of all the laws of nature. I have to agree with you, the ability for theses laws to exist is God.
This is an equivocation fallacy. A god is an intelligent and self aware being. The laws of the universe are not. Using this methodology to determine a belief in God is pretty arbitrary. I could very well say this pencil in my hand is God. That doesn't make me a deist or a theist. It's important, when discussing the existence of God to define God first, or you risk straying from the question entirely.
@psychosavant So now you are an expert on what God is? According to most books God is all Knowing, Everywhere, and all Loving, So is Evolution, but that will beyond your comprehension.
Calm down petebax. There's no need to get hostile. This is a fair debate.
No one needs to be an expert on what God is. All one needs to do is to look it up. If you define God by the Bible's definition, then no where in the Bible does it say God is the laws of the universe. Evolution is not all Knowing, Everywhere, and all Loving. It's not intelligent and it's not an entity, so it does not have the capacity for these things.
@psychosavant Evolution created everything so it is all knowing, evolution is everywhere, evolution created love and intelligence, so it can claim to be God but I don't believe evolution is God just the son of God. Because evolution is Blind and needs our intelligence if it is to progress. Why create intelligence in some humans the only intelligent humans are deists.
Evolution created nothing. Evolution is the process by which speciation occurs. Knowledge is cognition: the psychological result of perception and learning and reasoning. Evolution does not think, it does not percieve, and does not learn. Evolution has never needed us for anything, as it occurred long before we arrived. I'm not going to respond to your claim that only intelligent humans are deists, and if you think about it long enough, I think you'll understand why.
"They have calculated that if the DNA in a single cell was stretched out it would stretch 20 billion miles"
The length of DNA from a single human cell stretches to about 3 meters. You are off by a factor of 1.07e13. However, I can understand your confusion. As a very general average, if you took all the cells in an adult human and put their ends together, the length would be very close to what you described. But no, not a single cell.
i am a Deist. I despise Religion and think its a deluded way to live, and i think Atheist is a very ignorant view on life. The reason for so many Atheists is they see the delusion in Religion, but this really should not have any influence on them believing in God. I don't want a debate, just want to get my opinion across ;)
My only problem with Atheists is that they have turned Atheism into a new religion. Some even go to Atheist churches. Is Richard Dawkins the vicar? I try to keep an open mind and to try and understand others moral values very difficult.
To me the Christmas story is a story of deism. Gods seed was placed in Mary who through the laws of nature had a baby called Jesus. No Rib or mud used by God just nature. This is the story of evolution and reincarnation of Gods genes through Mary. That is the embodiment of the laws of nature. It is in every Bible and denied by most Christians. This is the real story of Jesus and Deism.
@petebax1 By Gods seed I mean the seed of evolution which started as a single cell and evolved into man. This progress shows the positivity of evolution that we often call Love. so God is Love.
What matters more about the Founding Fathers' beliefs was that tolerance trumped all. Religious beliefs are strictly personal. Ignoring Paine none of them forced their views on anyone and only revealed their beliefs when they were accused of being atheists. Washington attended church because his wife was Christian. They had no problems with Christianity and probably not with atheism either.
I have only one problem with atheists is that they reject the existence of God whatever that is. I have declare evolution God so you must reject that because it is my God.
NASA and I agree that the Universe has evolved from the big Bang.. That includes the evolution of all religions and all mans Gods. The fact is God didn't create evolution.
Evolution created God and all his religions this is a fact not a belief.
I could redefine god as a coffee mug and we all know coffee mugs exist so there you go I just proved god exists. You can't keep changing the definition of god to suit your needs. We have a word for evolution already, it's called evolution and it needs no divine hocus pocus to work so kindly keep your mystical labels off real science.
If you want to worship your coffee mug that is your right. If we held a poll in USA to see if other people also thought their coffee mugs were God I think you would be amazed.
The church of the Coffee Mug put me down for being your minister.
The problem is in the definition of the word God. Originally it meant the everlasting or infinity. Today God means miracle man.
If atheists accept infinity then I am an atheist if they don't I an a deist. My experience of many atheists they do deny the infinity. Until about 1920 infinity was banned from mathematics by Aristotle this is the cause of the confusion. If you believe in infinity be a deist.
We have infinite nothing that creates this universe.If the infinite can create one Universe it can create an infinite number of universes? I don't believe i an infinite number of universes. If their is only one Universe then by the Laws of infinity Something must have created it.
Whatever created this universe is called God who was turned into a magic act by religion.
The origin of the world is a great mystery, but I'm not so sure about an original creator that predates us.
For me, the mind is even more mystical and I do consider the possibility of a God within and between us, as our minds began to awaken. Something happened that brought forth the conscience and it's expanding with every generation.
Physical evolution is really slow but cultural, scientific and intellectual evolution is exponential.
It can't just be behavoristic programming, can it?
It is very simple God is infinite so anyone claiming to be God must know what Infinity is. You can ask any church or any scientist to explain infinity or any human they do not know. They claim that infinity is the largest number but if it is infinite there is no largest number?
Mathematicians have tried to answer this since the first mathematician. They go mad trying to find an answer.
It is a fact that we have evolved from a world without mass to a world with reasoning animals. Atheists say by probability? Deists say by Design, Religion says by God.
I think in the future we will find how evolution works and that will be by using
information. It is unlikely that anything can exist without the information to do so.
So you can choose Information by Probability, Design, or God,
Why I reject God is he must have created all the evil in the world too.
The problems with being a deist and believing in natures God are many. What exists after death for example? I believe nothing earthly and that includes sex ; sorry if you want that after death don't bother deism. Perhaps we like many creatures are providing information for what comes next. Not only dark energy but dark information too. Perhaps creatures dream of flying and then evolve into birds.
Are our dreams our motivations or contain the information for our tomorrows?
After death? No dogma about that. We could die and become part of they "circle of life" (not to sound too much like "The Lion King"). Perhaps animals dream, but the same part of our brain that produces our imagination is also what gives us our ability to dream and to feel empathy. It also gives us the ability to delude ourselves w/that same imagination. Now that is not to say a God does not exist. Perhaps like logical absolutes we simply lack the linguistics to explain...
...It adequately. The positive argument for the existence of a God is exactly the same when discussing the matter with a believer or an Atheist: the universe did not come into existence ex nihlo. What created God then, right? It is the final gap in our understanding. I suppose all Deist could be descibes as agnostic Deists. Now, as far as evil is concerned those are almost entirely HUMAN concerns and deal with our perceptions. If God is not an intercessory, Theistic God and may not...
...even be aware of our existence. In our perception, that is evil. For biblegod, that's a problem, for Deism it is not. To then say that you would reject a God who created evil only is an admission to the fact that you are begrudging your Creator. Fine with me. I doubt God would care (if It is capable of such emotions) unless It really was an anthropomorphic God like Biblegod. The Deistic God is not a comforting God, but look on the bright side, there is no dogma of Hell in Deism either.
The insurers will call it an act of God whereas I would sooner say it was an act of probability.
The atheists can have that one.
All religions where created by man to create a civilized world. The world needs just one religion to be civilized and to me I cannot see anything but Deism. Because all options are open.
do your research. evolution is false. it was built on a lie from the beginning. if there was such a thing as evolution we would have evolved with absolutely no concept of a creator. Animals do not sit around thinking of creation and a creator. We would have evolved the same way. with intelligence but with no concept of creation.
I don't think you have evolved but for the rest of us we are evolving. In the beginning was the word and that word was evolve. Everything is evolving apart from God who is pure energy and therefore everything. God is only a concept of man so God is anything your mind can think he is. No one can describe God .
thanks for the rip. evolution is the addition of information to DNA that did not exist prior. It never ever has happened. Darwin did not believe in evolution. What Darwin witnessed at Galapogos was just adaption meaning the information already existed in the DNA of the animals. A mammoth did not evolve into an elephant. It is an elephant. If the earth once again becomes cold the elephant will become smaller and hairier again. They are both elephants. Do your research.
I watched and thankyou for that..I have studied these things as I studied Engineering in college and have a degree in Chemical Engineering. I still stand by my belief that Evolution is false. There is adaptation and mutation. These can be easily confused but have different meanings that are at the root of the evolutionary arguements.
The best definition of deism is the Declaration of Independence. We hold these Truths self evident.
Natures God
Everyone in USA should accept Nature created their God and not Their God nature. That is the real reason for the war of independence. So that mankind could all live in peace by accepting that all the Gods are creations of nature.
Well I can't really argue that to much, I dunno what all of us think :)
I'm a Constitutionalists and IMHO, I believe everyone can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else. That's what it is about to me anyway.
Anyway, you had some awesome and thought provoking things to say in that video.
I was especially intrigued by your ideas behind Darwin and Einstein. I never thought about it like that. Your religious comparisons also where great!
Webster hated Deism. He competely despised it, and the dictionary definition is a result of that fact. Webster was meticulous in searching for definitions for words except in the case of Deism. Had he researched even a little people would have a better understanding today. Poor Thomas Paine was buried unceremonially, hated by christians of his day and people who didn't understand Deism. Yeah, life can be unfair. We each MUST learn to think for ourselves.
and today he has his own Pound Note in Lewis legal tender. I have enjoyed sitting in his old pub trying to image how he felt before going to USA. We had so much in common Thomas and I.
I haven't really studied any proper mathematics I was brought up to be a vicar. I taught my son who is a mathematics teacher. Can I ask you a question? What is 2+2 ? In a Solid State,
Liquid State, Gas State, Plasma state,
Dark matter state? Einstein couldn't answer that..
Pete, you should look into quantum physics also. This branch of science comes closer than any religion in "reading the mind of god". It's absolutely spectacular and is evolving quickly. (I have a hunch you've already studied someof it, if so I'd love to know your thoughts about it).
Thank you for your comment. Can I share a small fact with you. About 4000 years BC Nature gave the Chinese a system that they called I Ching. They used to throw long and short bones to depict the future. We all laughed at their stupidity.
Today the world totally depends on that system it was Binary Mathematics that nature gave them. Tomorrow a new system based on vectors will replace the Binary system. Nature is always talking to us we are all to stupid to understand.
I reject nihilism as I feel it is of no use for my reality. Everything is; every action man takes is an action taken because of his neurological activity, and I want to understand much of our mental base to understand social activity. As such, the discussion on wheter or not there is a magical plane of spiritual truth is of no use to me, I "know" there is no such thing, but that social behavior is real, physically derived; morality is therefore objective; the circle of words begins.
Best of luck in your search but you will not understand mother nature by researching mankind alone. Can I give you a task that will help you on your journey? The task is, " When did mother nature create love?"
Emotions seem to be products. Hate, anger, love, all emotions we at different levels see in all creatures. As living organisms evolved so did what we call emotions, chemical responses that made evolution more effective.
This is obviously possibilities, much like the determinist view of "free will" and such concepts that we see as absolutes.
I was an atheist for many years but then I realised Mother Nature is not just chance.
Many concepts existed for many millions of years before man like love, freedom, good evil, and concepts don't have atoms or particles. If everything started by chance we would have just atomic structure. If a million monkeys typed long enough they might create a Shakespeare Sonnet but not one of them would understand a single word of it.
That is fine sir, but what I am asking is directly linked to a comment you made in your video, and I was only asking if you felt, or meant, that America should not accept atheists in their midst. Obviously this question is linked to how you see a pregression of human intelligence and nature; do we question the fundational beliefs of traditional thinking or do we go for whatever is in the tradition of our elders?
Deism is a religious & philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, & that this can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for organized religion. Deists generally reject the notion of divine intervention in human affairs such as by miracles & revelations. These views contrast with dependence on revelations, miracles, and faith found in many Judeo-Christian, Islamic & other theistic teachings.
Agreed, Deists realized that nature created love about the time of the dinosaurs and mankind as only created his own Gods. These gods are destroying our planet with wars and global warming. We need to get back to the one true God mother nature. Love is for everyone not just humans.
Natures God ! The world needs a declaration of independence from Gods Nature or Mankind's Nature. Perhaps when New York is under water they will listen?
Isn't there evidence that America was founded by all sorts, including Deists & Christians? Don't forget that the Bill of Rights was included at the insistance of a Christian Pastor, Patrick Henry. Yes, it appears Madison, Jefferson, Paine, etc. were Deists, but they were not the only ones who shared in founding and fighting for this country. That's the beauty of America: all kinds are welcome. However, there has been a struggle from the beginning with elites who want to control the masses.
The idea that the institutions of the United States were founded upon Deism is false. Dr. M. E. Bradford's list of 35 delegates to the Constitutional Convention reveals that their church membership was 95% Christian and only 5% Deist. Churches generally required strict doctrinal confessions and Deists were generally not allowed to hold public office.
You sound more like a New Age Moderate than a Deist. A Deist believes that an Intelligent Entity created everything and started the motions. But then nature took over. But the Deist Intelligent Entity may not be concerned with us anymore. Or It may be doing something more important. But I do believe that love is the message that the world needs to hear. Check out my videos!!
Einstein was a Pantheist, not a deist. He hated the belief that the universe was created. So he was not a creationist. He didn't even believed in the afterlife.
First at all, everyone is agnostic. You and I are as well agnostic, even if we call ourselves Deist, or Pantheist. Maybe you haven't heard of Scientific Pantheism, which has a lot of common with humanism, just like atheism.
Well, by creator in Pantheism, is the Universe itself. That's why Pantheism is mostly famous with physicians, like Carl Sagan, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawkings, and Einstein. They all have pantheistic point of view.
I will not be pedantic as to what the different words mean. To me Mother
Nature created everything and that includes all the religions. She had a reason for doing so and that can be expressed as reason. Perhaps the definition of a human is reason, but as I look around me I am not certain of that either.
You just said something pantheistic. A Pantheist believe that the Universe, or Mother Nature, created everything, just like Cosmoligicism state. Deism is when you believe that a supernatural architecture, which you can call god, created everything. Of course, such god doesn't interfere in anything, which some people call Nature's God. Nature's God can't be Mother Nature, because Nature is Mother Nature.
Emergence is a force of nature and in most cases a good thing. Many things depend on emergence to survive. Where it becomes a problem is when man uses emergence for evil.
I think crowd behaviour is also a form of emergence. Especially the pilgrims going to Mecca who often trample each other to death
In the light of your critique of Einstein, a breathless world awaits your verdict on the solutions to the Dirac Equation.
Dirac showed that for electrons with half-integral spin v1 and v2 are the two NEGATIVE ENERGY spin states -p and -E. A POSITRON would be produced whenever a negative energy electron received energy>2mc2 and was thrust into positive energy state.
Would Dirac's 'sea of negative energy' thus constitute the antithesis of your 'God' i.e. the 'Devil'? Please enlighten us.
hello, petebax my only opinion was that is it necessary to believe in the divinity of deity or is it to believe in the simple virtues which are needed to be emulated in order to become a good human being? In the 13 virtues of BENJAMIN FRANKLIN he proposed the idea of imbibing the moral value of humbleness of JESUS.Did he assassinated the character of JESUS certainly not instead he made GOD happier by intaking the real message GOD has ordered through his prophets.
Most schools world wide study Biology and have done so for hundreds of years. Yet not one of them can grow a single cell from the soup of life. Can you believe that!
Perhaps they have an ingrediant missing and this post was to try and offer a rational explanation rather than the lies offered by
local hidden variable theory applied to probabilty. An example of this is Darwins
Survival of the Fittest applied to evolution.
The probabilty outcome of evolution would be
completely random without this local variable
"fittest". Therefore Love and Hate can be called local variables which are applied to probabilty. If you accept that love and hate exist you are accepting God and the Devil.
Peter, humility towards a fictional being is useless. I save my humility for occasions when I meet a great person. Ans, please answer me this: How do Atheists specifically contribute to global warming? Thanks in advance.
Most atheists believe the world was created they just believe that it was created by no one. Evolution by accident I can understand that and I too once held that view. Then I came to the same conclussion as Albert Einstein
"I don't believe God plays dice with the Universe." Once I understood what he was saying
Evolution is a form of reincarnation. Today scientists talk about the memory of Genes.
Which is often called instinct, it exists in all creatures.
We may destroy ourselfs with Global Warming unless we learn to Love the earth. Perhaps we have to prove that we are ready to evolve or reincarnate to the next level.
Should we destroy all life,
Evolution or God will go on without us and all our stupid religions.
The question is; Why are we evolving or reicarnating?
The one and only lesson we must acknowledge as creationists, or Deists is that to create and nurture, care for each other, is to please our Creater. To destroy or harm or neglect or fail to help those we could , is to dishonor God. We were each of us given the gift of life. Given.. you didn't earn life, it wasn't rented, it was and is a gift, only through giving can we do the Lords work. no matter how we all may disagree on the subject of religion, we each of us know this to be true
I agree but must say that also gos for all Gods creations. Recently I had a pint of beer in Thomas Paines Inn where he wrote many of his early pamphlets; in Lewes England. Thomas Paine a good example to everybody.
I am proud to be one. thus I could go to Muslim Mass, Christian Church, Catholic Church. thus I do not believe in scripture I do how ever understand and apply the good value that every religion has too offer. I praise the Lord and thankful for all the things he provided us to be happy.
De"ism\ (d[=e]"[i^]z'm), n. [L. deus god: cf. F. d['e]isme. See Deity.] The doctrine or creed of a deist; the belief or system of those who acknowledge the existence of one God, but deny revelation. Webster Dictionary
Helen Fisher has also written that love evolved from animals so it is not a human quality. Gods love can be seen in the formation of the earth. How we got our seasons
How the earth got its water How dinasaurs were
replaced by mammals Why sabre tooth tigers disapeered, top preditor, the list is endless.
All these are factual events that are far more
unbelievable than anything in the bible.
Helen Fisher is excellent but what she is talking about is mainly sexual love. Devine love is better.
Richard Dawkins is wrong because he dosn't realise that religion evolves. Every religion teaches the same Love Thy Neighbour which is more important than anything Einstein or Darwin taught. By neighbour that includes all
creation. Love also evolves. The shame is that no religion practises Gods first law.
Love thy Neighbour. Or to say it better Love all Creation.
first of all this guy's voice is unbearable. second there was a letter from einstein about a year before he died where he says religion is "childish" and based on superstition.
I could not agree with Einstein more all religions are childish but we are all the children of God. Can anyone but God understand a multi-diamensional world, including Einstein
Great Video! Isn't is weird how most of the famous scientists of history believed in some form of God? Like Galileo, Leonardo da Vinci, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin(I didn't even know that before this video), etc.
A well informed video! My term for God is the Great Architect of the Universe, Father of Lights and Nature's God.
"You think you are too intelligent to believe in God. I am not like you". Napoleon Bonaparte
"I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God". Abraham Lincoln
very great video. i do not think that science opposes god or religion. science is simply understanding how god works, and what we know of how god works through science is not even 1%.
sometimes it irritates me when ultra-religious or atheists claim to know everything about god, or know enough science to discount a god. the fact that new scientific breakthroughs occur everyday should tell us that we really know so little of the universe. i think god only lets us know what he wants us to know
One problem with all scientists is they don't know the difference between fact and belief.
The flat earth and the big bang all scientific beliefs or facts far more nonsense than any religion. Yet they poke fun at religions come on now!!! Today it is inflation or string theory more facts!!
Please provide evidence for: My evidence is atoms exist at the edge of the universe which could not exist under the big bang. I guess since scientific evidence doesn't work for you as evidence and rather you're own "thoughts" seem more conclusive, will leave this alone. I'm sure you're a nice guy and your whole love thing is harmless so I wish you good luck and cheers.
I read Einstein's letters to christian people and others who first wrote him with questions about where God stood in his theories etc.. I got the impression his spirituality if you will was just an awe of everything that existed not that any God existed. I think for all intents and purposes he was atheist. that's what I got out of what he was saying.
So you're saying Deist can cure global warming before science can? A deist wouldn't even know global warming exists without science so I'll stick with hard work and investigation over thinking to a unproven god of your imagination.
GOD is Nature of the Universe.
jmgibbs53 2 months ago
thanx i really didn't need my left ear, fuck.
MrPyrulen 3 months ago
I sir am a deist. However, you made this video to lackluster. May I recommend adding some pictures next time.
IchFresseTitanJa 9 months ago
What is beautiful about all these comments is this: You are all creating your own ideas through the words you think and finally type. It was your "god" mind that helped you to sort and finally materialize what you believe to be true. Why can't God be a mere thread in the world of universal intelligence. Why can't we all be tapping in to the same source and coming up with different answers/opinions/feelings. I suggest that we humans are merely parroting what the creative force does every moment.
ThinkPureTruth 10 months ago
freethinkers and philosophers are Deists..... dumb cattle follow religions and atheists are nothing but machine-minded people
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 10 months ago
@TheUndertakerSaysRIP i love you so much. this is the smartest comment here.
TheEpiph 9 months ago
I call myself an atheist, but I don't hate all religions. I do hate any ideology that says: "we're good everyone else is evil." Especially when all they have is dogma to back it up. Hang in there Pete, I like you.
dymchurch1 11 months ago
@dymchurch1 I agree sir.
IchFresseTitanJa 9 months ago
@khasseki He states that the earth was created, Evolution is Creation a continuing creation....
The exact point of the beginning of creation in the universe is beyond human comprehension.
dguilliams 11 months ago
Yeah, most great scienstists swere deists, not atheists....
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
@petebax1 "It is beyond the grasp of any human to understand"
so do you understand with you being non-human?
pinkybro 1 year ago
Why is a Deist dressed like a Priest?
funnystarchild 1 year ago
@xXxDrRobxXx Nope.To believe in a God and Religion are two separate things. To be religious you have to follow a religion, scriptures and all kinds of man made ideas. To just believe in a God who made the Universe doesnt make you religious. Deism is a more scientific view of God and the most correct way of looking at things.
funnystarchild 1 year ago
You're not a deist. You're quoting the bible like it's revelation.
Iconoclast444 1 year ago
This guys voice is literally on my last damn nerve!! good grief!
shawnhd45 1 year ago
@funnystarchild The popular definition of Deism has been evolving over the last couple centuries (sadly). Originally, Deism meant: the standpoint that reason and observation of the natural world can determine that a supreme being created the universe. In recent years people have started thinking that the central part of Deism is believing in a God who doesn't interact with humans, this is only true for the so called "French Deists". The kind of deism that existed in enlightenement period France.
ekoado 1 year ago
@khasseki I agree it was a bit simplistic
greenelf12 1 year ago
This guy is cool.
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
Deists are altruistic but when have religions been altruistic to either Deists or Atheists, The Golden Rule was agreed by every religion and practised by none.
Only Deists practise Altruism today
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1 I love altuistic people.
subandrate 1 year ago
@petebax1
"Only Deists practise Altruism today"
It's just arrogance on your part to make a such a claim. It's not true at all.
Iconoclast444 1 year ago
@petebax1 You know poor Ayn Rand found Altruism to be false since everyone is really selfish. She was Atheist and also very intense when it came to people being totally responsible for their own actions and "motives." I would like to say to you Peter that I find it amazing to hear the language of love coming from the mouths of true Deists. Certain other people spew hatred and separation which is contrary to what it will take to heal this planet. I enjoy loving and being loved with/by my wife.
ThinkPureTruth 10 months ago
This guy trys to make Deism into Theism. Hes lying. Look up on wikipedia the difference between Deism and Theism. NO RELIGIOUS PERSON ARE DEISTS!!!!! Scientists are more likely to be Deists......
funnystarchild 1 year ago
@funnystarchild I believe Deism is the natural state of all humans because of their genetic make up Theism is mankinds attempts to adapt the Golden Rule through religions. Most of the prophets are regarded as Gods by humans including Jesus.
Humans love to worship now they worship Science , Dawkins and Darwin.
Atheism is a religion of no God.
Deism is a belief in natural evolutiion of all existence.
This is the evolution of God.
petebax1 1 year ago
Hey well said, if I had a Golden rule I'd use it on reedo you know spare the rule spoil the child.
stairxway 1 year ago
:D:D
MoritzBUENDE2 1 year ago
This video also teaches the Golden Rule which is the same for every religion on earth. The Golden rule was given to every religion by our Genomes and it is the way God speaks to man. Every prophet in the history of mankind was given the same Golden Rule for thousands of years. Check this out on google. God spoke to everyone everywhere and it is time we listened. The Golden Rule is a fact not a belief.
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1 "The golden rule has its roots in a wide range of world cultures, and is a standard which different cultures use to resolve conflicts. It was present in the philosophies of ancient India, Greece, Judea, and China. Principal philosophers and religious figures have stated it in different ways, Wikipedia"
starxship 1 year ago
@petebax1 Try Wikipedia under Golden Rule agreed to by everyone. Why don't we use it.
petebax1 1 year ago
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) and the Genomics Center at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center have recently found we can communicate with our Genes through Yoga, Meditation and Prayer. This is being used for healing so why shouldn't they communicate with us?
TheSuzanSuzan 1 year ago
@TheSuzanSuzan , What wonderful news someone as just told me an Arab came up with the Theory of Evolution by natural selection 1000 years before Darwin using meditation I think he called it adapting to the environment. Which is a better name than natural selection. Darwin should have asked his genes.
petebax1 1 year ago
You have some interesting ideas! The ideas of Einstein and Darwin did change the world. A pantheist might see them both in the way said.
nickharvey7 1 year ago
Why did every religion teach the same thing commonly called the Golden Rule? Answer Because it is Genetic and we have been taught by our Genes. Like reincarnation is believed everywhere and if you say reincarnation of our genes it becomes a scientific fact.
The conclusion I have come to is that we can communicate with our Genes.
Altruism is what we used to call God.
We must look for the altruism within us and destroy the selfish gene.
petebax1 1 year ago
I have taught the Lie about the selfish gene as a fact. When I look at society which was educated on this lie, selfish bankers, politicians, businessmen all grasping with their belief in the selfish gene I feel ashamed about what I have done. All I can do is say I am truly sorry.
starxship 1 year ago
@starxship That's not the selfish gene idea is about.
It doesn't literally mean selfish.
Fakenstien 1 year ago
@Fakenstien I believe The selfish Gene is a lie stolen off Bill Hamilton by Richard Dawkins and used to make millions in book sales. It as no bases in scientific fact
but used by an atheist for selfish reasons?????
petebax1 1 year ago
Richard Dawkins is a liar. Our genes like many other creatures are altruistic. A fact that as been independently researched by several universities. Altruism is a genetic quality of all humans. The lie about the selfish Gene began by Dawkins as made Dawkins rich and famous but it is a lie. Dawkins still is telling the lie although he knows he is wrong.
TheSuzanSuzan 1 year ago
Having compassion and a desire to help others is a high value of civilization. Interestingly, children are innately born with a helpful, altruistic nature. According to research reported in the Stanford University News,
"From when they first begin to walk and talk and become truly cultural beings, young human children are naturally cooperative and helpful and altruistic."
God gave all children altruistic feelings for everything.
Apart from atheists who have selfish genes
petebax1 1 year ago
In the origin of the species Darwin acknowledged other forms of evolution other that natural selection and referred to it as his tree of life. I would like to amend that to the tree of death because 99% of all natural selection is now extinct. Amongst the different forms of selection is altruism practice by most animals especially bees and ants. Atheists would have us believe that we just have a selfish gene? Whereas Deists proclaim altruism for all things.
God is Altruism for all thing
petebax1 1 year ago
Am I an deist if I believe in stuff people would descibe as supernatural? I mean that I think the universe god created has infinite possibilities.God just created this universe and that all. I think astral projection is actually leaving the body. In a way if god created the universe everything we are doing is supernatural.
travisbrummett 1 year ago
@travisbrummett Try reading NASAs explanation of the Big Bang Theory with its dark matter, dark information, dark energy, and dark flow, this more fantastic than anything man could ever dream of. Truth is stranger than fiction. According to science everything exists forever just depends on the space time your in? Try getting your head round that.
petebax1 1 year ago
They have calculated that if the DNA in a single cell was stretched out it would stretch 20 billion miles. All by chance? It took a super-intelligence to design this.
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1 Genome is the equivalent of nearly 70 trips from the earth to the sun and back. That's too small to be seen with the naked eye but as large as our solar system. Way beyond any human comprehension today. This was created by a monkey according to atheists.
TheSuzanSuzan 1 year ago
@petebax1 The amount of information contained within each of our cells is staggering - equivalent to about 100 million printed pages. The mathematics to allow randomness and improvement must exist which most people would define as intelligence. Atheists claim this is by chance?
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1
No, atheists do not believe this is by chance although there is an element of chance involved. In an environment of chaos, one single element of organization will direct all of the chaos back into order. Luckily for atheists, we understand that our universe does operate on chance, but has natural laws that drive all of the events therein. A rock falls, not by chance, but by gravity. Physics and chemistry drives the evolution of life, not chance.
psychosavant 1 year ago
@psychosavant You have just defined God he is the embodiment of all the laws of nature. I have to agree with you, the ability for theses laws to exist is God.
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1
This is an equivocation fallacy. A god is an intelligent and self aware being. The laws of the universe are not. Using this methodology to determine a belief in God is pretty arbitrary. I could very well say this pencil in my hand is God. That doesn't make me a deist or a theist. It's important, when discussing the existence of God to define God first, or you risk straying from the question entirely.
psychosavant 1 year ago
@psychosavant So now you are an expert on what God is? According to most books God is all Knowing, Everywhere, and all Loving, So is Evolution, but that will beyond your comprehension.
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1
Calm down petebax. There's no need to get hostile. This is a fair debate.
No one needs to be an expert on what God is. All one needs to do is to look it up. If you define God by the Bible's definition, then no where in the Bible does it say God is the laws of the universe. Evolution is not all Knowing, Everywhere, and all Loving. It's not intelligent and it's not an entity, so it does not have the capacity for these things.
psychosavant 1 year ago
@psychosavant Evolution created everything so it is all knowing, evolution is everywhere, evolution created love and intelligence, so it can claim to be God but I don't believe evolution is God just the son of God. Because evolution is Blind and needs our intelligence if it is to progress. Why create intelligence in some humans the only intelligent humans are deists.
petebax1 1 year ago
@petebax1
Evolution created nothing. Evolution is the process by which speciation occurs. Knowledge is cognition: the psychological result of perception and learning and reasoning. Evolution does not think, it does not percieve, and does not learn. Evolution has never needed us for anything, as it occurred long before we arrived. I'm not going to respond to your claim that only intelligent humans are deists, and if you think about it long enough, I think you'll understand why.
psychosavant 1 year ago
@psychosavant If Evolution created nothing then it must have created God?
petebax1 1 year ago
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@petebax1
"They have calculated that if the DNA in a single cell was stretched out it would stretch 20 billion miles"
The length of DNA from a single human cell stretches to about 3 meters. You are off by a factor of 1.07e13. However, I can understand your confusion. As a very general average, if you took all the cells in an adult human and put their ends together, the length would be very close to what you described. But no, not a single cell.
psychosavant 1 year ago
i am a Deist. I despise Religion and think its a deluded way to live, and i think Atheist is a very ignorant view on life. The reason for so many Atheists is they see the delusion in Religion, but this really should not have any influence on them believing in God. I don't want a debate, just want to get my opinion across ;)
HauntedShores06 2 years ago
My only problem with Atheists is that they have turned Atheism into a new religion. Some even go to Atheist churches. Is Richard Dawkins the vicar? I try to keep an open mind and to try and understand others moral values very difficult.
I do respect you.
petebax1 1 year ago
To me the Christmas story is a story of deism. Gods seed was placed in Mary who through the laws of nature had a baby called Jesus. No Rib or mud used by God just nature. This is the story of evolution and reincarnation of Gods genes through Mary. That is the embodiment of the laws of nature. It is in every Bible and denied by most Christians. This is the real story of Jesus and Deism.
Evolution and Reincarnation of our Genes.
petebax1 2 years ago
@petebax1 You are the Vicar of You Tube
TheSuzanSuzan 2 years ago
@petebax1 By Gods seed I mean the seed of evolution which started as a single cell and evolved into man. This progress shows the positivity of evolution that we often call Love. so God is Love.
petebax1 2 years ago
What matters more about the Founding Fathers' beliefs was that tolerance trumped all. Religious beliefs are strictly personal. Ignoring Paine none of them forced their views on anyone and only revealed their beliefs when they were accused of being atheists. Washington attended church because his wife was Christian. They had no problems with Christianity and probably not with atheism either.
MonJoe20 2 years ago
Perhaps UFOs turned up they are mentioned in all the early history books.
TheSuzanSuzan 2 years ago
Using NASA research 13 Billion years ago our universe started evolving. About 20,000
years ago mankind evolved to a point where they created Gods. The question is why?
Is it as the atheists claim one big accident.
Or is there as the deists claim because there in some unknown reason for this?
It is a fact that we have evolved Gods they are everywhere.
The big question is why?
petebax1 2 years ago
Interesting video and I agree with a lot of what you say!!!
nickharvey7 2 years ago
I have only one problem with atheists is that they reject the existence of God whatever that is. I have declare evolution God so you must reject that because it is my God.
petebax1 2 years ago
NASA and I agree that the Universe has evolved from the big Bang.. That includes the evolution of all religions and all mans Gods. The fact is God didn't create evolution.
Evolution created God and all his religions this is a fact not a belief.
petebax1 2 years ago
Is there a God? Stephen Hawking:" Yes, if by God is meant the embodiment of the laws of the universe."
Evolution is omnipresent. Evolution is also all knowing eventually and Evolution gets better so its a kind of all loving.
Which is the traditional view of God and obeys the Laws of the universe.
That makes evolution God.
Thats Deism
petebax1 2 years ago
I could redefine god as a coffee mug and we all know coffee mugs exist so there you go I just proved god exists. You can't keep changing the definition of god to suit your needs. We have a word for evolution already, it's called evolution and it needs no divine hocus pocus to work so kindly keep your mystical labels off real science.
FlyingFree333 2 years ago
If you want to worship your coffee mug that is your right. If we held a poll in USA to see if other people also thought their coffee mugs were God I think you would be amazed.
The church of the Coffee Mug put me down for being your minister.
petebax1 2 years ago
wonderfully said
ModernDeism 2 years ago
The problem is in the definition of the word God. Originally it meant the everlasting or infinity. Today God means miracle man.
If atheists accept infinity then I am an atheist if they don't I an a deist. My experience of many atheists they do deny the infinity. Until about 1920 infinity was banned from mathematics by Aristotle this is the cause of the confusion. If you believe in infinity be a deist.
petebax1 2 years ago
Can you help I am torn between being an atheist or a deist what do you think?
TheSuzanSuzan 2 years ago
We have infinite nothing that creates this universe.If the infinite can create one Universe it can create an infinite number of universes? I don't believe i an infinite number of universes. If their is only one Universe then by the Laws of infinity Something must have created it.
Whatever created this universe is called God who was turned into a magic act by religion.
petebax1 2 years ago
The origin of the world is a great mystery, but I'm not so sure about an original creator that predates us.
For me, the mind is even more mystical and I do consider the possibility of a God within and between us, as our minds began to awaken. Something happened that brought forth the conscience and it's expanding with every generation.
Physical evolution is really slow but cultural, scientific and intellectual evolution is exponential.
It can't just be behavoristic programming, can it?
herrfrunck 2 years ago
It is very simple God is infinite so anyone claiming to be God must know what Infinity is. You can ask any church or any scientist to explain infinity or any human they do not know. They claim that infinity is the largest number but if it is infinite there is no largest number?
Mathematicians have tried to answer this since the first mathematician. They go mad trying to find an answer.
The test of God is what is infinity?
To me a deist I believe infinity is God.
petebax1 2 years ago
How can I know if God exists what test is there?
TheSuzanSuzan 2 years ago
It is a fact that we have evolved from a world without mass to a world with reasoning animals. Atheists say by probability? Deists say by Design, Religion says by God.
I think in the future we will find how evolution works and that will be by using
information. It is unlikely that anything can exist without the information to do so.
So you can choose Information by Probability, Design, or God,
Why I reject God is he must have created all the evil in the world too.
Design or Probability? Choose.
petebax1 2 years ago
true!!!great vid.
gbortuhno 2 years ago
The problems with being a deist and believing in natures God are many. What exists after death for example? I believe nothing earthly and that includes sex ; sorry if you want that after death don't bother deism. Perhaps we like many creatures are providing information for what comes next. Not only dark energy but dark information too. Perhaps creatures dream of flying and then evolve into birds.
Are our dreams our motivations or contain the information for our tomorrows?
petebax1 2 years ago
@petebax1
After death? No dogma about that. We could die and become part of they "circle of life" (not to sound too much like "The Lion King"). Perhaps animals dream, but the same part of our brain that produces our imagination is also what gives us our ability to dream and to feel empathy. It also gives us the ability to delude ourselves w/that same imagination. Now that is not to say a God does not exist. Perhaps like logical absolutes we simply lack the linguistics to explain...
Freethinker7718 2 years ago
...It adequately. The positive argument for the existence of a God is exactly the same when discussing the matter with a believer or an Atheist: the universe did not come into existence ex nihlo. What created God then, right? It is the final gap in our understanding. I suppose all Deist could be descibes as agnostic Deists. Now, as far as evil is concerned those are almost entirely HUMAN concerns and deal with our perceptions. If God is not an intercessory, Theistic God and may not...
Freethinker7718 2 years ago
...even be aware of our existence. In our perception, that is evil. For biblegod, that's a problem, for Deism it is not. To then say that you would reject a God who created evil only is an admission to the fact that you are begrudging your Creator. Fine with me. I doubt God would care (if It is capable of such emotions) unless It really was an anthropomorphic God like Biblegod. The Deistic God is not a comforting God, but look on the bright side, there is no dogma of Hell in Deism either.
Freethinker7718 2 years ago
A comment passed by two Nuns in Haiti.
Isn't God great he spared us?
Christian logic.
The ones he didn't spare did he hate them?
The insurers will call it an act of God whereas I would sooner say it was an act of probability.
The atheists can have that one.
All religions where created by man to create a civilized world. The world needs just one religion to be civilized and to me I cannot see anything but Deism. Because all options are open.
petebax1 2 years ago
This guy looks like Mike Myers!
Stopthewar17 2 years ago
haha, why you gotta make me see that now?!?! LMAO
YourDarkAccomplice 2 years ago
Great video Pete, the only thing I would disagree with is your point that the only thing you need to do to be part of America is believe in creation.
I do not think that is the case.
torak101 2 years ago
Yes on reflection it was put very badly by myself.
What I was trying to say was in the declaration of independence creation by nature was seen as self evident.
For me all our Gods are part of our evolution that helped create civilised man.
Though I accept natural selection other forms exist like sexual selection and what can only be seen as civilised selection.
Some form of selection must have taken place for evolution to occur. This I meant by creation.
petebax1 2 years ago
do your research. evolution is false. it was built on a lie from the beginning. if there was such a thing as evolution we would have evolved with absolutely no concept of a creator. Animals do not sit around thinking of creation and a creator. We would have evolved the same way. with intelligence but with no concept of creation.
walleyekiller71 2 years ago
I don't think you have evolved but for the rest of us we are evolving. In the beginning was the word and that word was evolve. Everything is evolving apart from God who is pure energy and therefore everything. God is only a concept of man so God is anything your mind can think he is. No one can describe God .
petebax1 2 years ago
thanks for the rip. evolution is the addition of information to DNA that did not exist prior. It never ever has happened. Darwin did not believe in evolution. What Darwin witnessed at Galapogos was just adaption meaning the information already existed in the DNA of the animals. A mammoth did not evolve into an elephant. It is an elephant. If the earth once again becomes cold the elephant will become smaller and hairier again. They are both elephants. Do your research.
walleyekiller71 2 years ago
When writing about mankind Darwin rejected
natural selection in favour of cultural or cultural sexual selection. Which is the truth.
Evolution is a concept that goes back to beyond the universe. It is just a concept. The earth had to evolve to support life.
The sun had to evolve to support the earth,. Plasma had to evolve into atoms.
Pure energy evolved into plasma.
A dinosaur had to evolve to create a bird
it evolved the lungs birds need to fly before they flew.
petebax1 2 years ago
Sorry Evolution is an established truth. See this video about a devout beleiver in God and a microbiologist:
/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
You can't just talk about something without studying it
questionsamson 2 years ago
I watched and thankyou for that..I have studied these things as I studied Engineering in college and have a degree in Chemical Engineering. I still stand by my belief that Evolution is false. There is adaptation and mutation. These can be easily confused but have different meanings that are at the root of the evolutionary arguements.
walleyekiller71 2 years ago
Thanks for taking the time to view it at least.
questionsamson 2 years ago
The best definition of deism is the Declaration of Independence. We hold these Truths self evident.
Natures God
Everyone in USA should accept Nature created their God and not Their God nature. That is the real reason for the war of independence. So that mankind could all live in peace by accepting that all the Gods are creations of nature.
That is deism and deism is the true soul of USA .
petebax1 2 years ago
Well I can't really argue that to much, I dunno what all of us think :)
I'm a Constitutionalists and IMHO, I believe everyone can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else. That's what it is about to me anyway.
Anyway, you had some awesome and thought provoking things to say in that video.
I was especially intrigued by your ideas behind Darwin and Einstein. I never thought about it like that. Your religious comparisons also where great!
Thanks.
torak101 2 years ago
Webster hated Deism. He competely despised it, and the dictionary definition is a result of that fact. Webster was meticulous in searching for definitions for words except in the case of Deism. Had he researched even a little people would have a better understanding today. Poor Thomas Paine was buried unceremonially, hated by christians of his day and people who didn't understand Deism. Yeah, life can be unfair. We each MUST learn to think for ourselves.
beatlesnumber9 2 years ago
Thomas Paine worked in Lewis in the UK
and today he has his own Pound Note in Lewis legal tender. I have enjoyed sitting in his old pub trying to image how he felt before going to USA. We had so much in common Thomas and I.
I haven't really studied any proper mathematics I was brought up to be a vicar. I taught my son who is a mathematics teacher. Can I ask you a question? What is 2+2 ? In a Solid State,
Liquid State, Gas State, Plasma state,
Dark matter state? Einstein couldn't answer that..
petebax1 2 years ago
Pete, you should look into quantum physics also. This branch of science comes closer than any religion in "reading the mind of god". It's absolutely spectacular and is evolving quickly. (I have a hunch you've already studied someof it, if so I'd love to know your thoughts about it).
beatlesnumber9 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Can I share a small fact with you. About 4000 years BC Nature gave the Chinese a system that they called I Ching. They used to throw long and short bones to depict the future. We all laughed at their stupidity.
Today the world totally depends on that system it was Binary Mathematics that nature gave them. Tomorrow a new system based on vectors will replace the Binary system. Nature is always talking to us we are all to stupid to understand.
petebax1 2 years ago
Hi there.
I reject nihilism as I feel it is of no use for my reality. Everything is; every action man takes is an action taken because of his neurological activity, and I want to understand much of our mental base to understand social activity. As such, the discussion on wheter or not there is a magical plane of spiritual truth is of no use to me, I "know" there is no such thing, but that social behavior is real, physically derived; morality is therefore objective; the circle of words begins.
GnosticAtheist 2 years ago
Best of luck in your search but you will not understand mother nature by researching mankind alone. Can I give you a task that will help you on your journey? The task is, " When did mother nature create love?"
Answer that and you may become a deist.
petebax1 2 years ago
Emotions seem to be products. Hate, anger, love, all emotions we at different levels see in all creatures. As living organisms evolved so did what we call emotions, chemical responses that made evolution more effective.
This is obviously possibilities, much like the determinist view of "free will" and such concepts that we see as absolutes.
GnosticAtheist 2 years ago
I was an atheist for many years but then I realised Mother Nature is not just chance.
Many concepts existed for many millions of years before man like love, freedom, good evil, and concepts don't have atoms or particles. If everything started by chance we would have just atomic structure. If a million monkeys typed long enough they might create a Shakespeare Sonnet but not one of them would understand a single word of it.
May natures concept of love fill your soul.
Pete
petebax1 2 years ago
That is fine sir, but what I am asking is directly linked to a comment you made in your video, and I was only asking if you felt, or meant, that America should not accept atheists in their midst. Obviously this question is linked to how you see a pregression of human intelligence and nature; do we question the fundational beliefs of traditional thinking or do we go for whatever is in the tradition of our elders?
GnosticAtheist 2 years ago
Deism is a religious & philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, & that this can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for organized religion. Deists generally reject the notion of divine intervention in human affairs such as by miracles & revelations. These views contrast with dependence on revelations, miracles, and faith found in many Judeo-Christian, Islamic & other theistic teachings.
success2k 2 years ago
Agreed, Deists realized that nature created love about the time of the dinosaurs and mankind as only created his own Gods. These gods are destroying our planet with wars and global warming. We need to get back to the one true God mother nature. Love is for everyone not just humans.
petebax1 2 years ago
Watch: America's Heritage is NOT Christian: TRUE OR FALSE?
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
You have not read the declaration it says Natures God, not Gods Nature or Mankind's nature. Nature is God is the most important
statement and one accepted by the first Americans The Indians.
petebax1 2 years ago
We hold these Truths self evident.
Natures God ! The world needs a declaration of independence from Gods Nature or Mankind's Nature. Perhaps when New York is under water they will listen?
But I doubt it.
You and the founding fathers are so right
but no ones listening. Natures God is the
future with or without humanity.
TheSuzanSuzan 2 years ago
I agree with your idea of a declaration of independence from mankind's gods. In 50 years half the life on this planet will be extinct.
One point the last declaration of independence led to war.
I fear that we need the same sort of action
to establish natures God.
petebax1 2 years ago
Isn't there evidence that America was founded by all sorts, including Deists & Christians? Don't forget that the Bill of Rights was included at the insistance of a Christian Pastor, Patrick Henry. Yes, it appears Madison, Jefferson, Paine, etc. were Deists, but they were not the only ones who shared in founding and fighting for this country. That's the beauty of America: all kinds are welcome. However, there has been a struggle from the beginning with elites who want to control the masses.
katydig 2 years ago
A list founders like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, George Mason, James Madison, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, and Benjamin Franklin.
These people all declared themselves
deists at some time in their lives but
because of Christian pressure not unlike the inquisition, they either kept quite or withdrew. In Obamas inauguration only
one casual reference was mentioned
of other religions. USA is the land of Liberty for all including religion atheists
and deists. No mention of Deists.
petebax1 2 years ago
The idea that the institutions of the United States were founded upon Deism is false. Dr. M. E. Bradford's list of 35 delegates to the Constitutional Convention reveals that their church membership was 95% Christian and only 5% Deist. Churches generally required strict doctrinal confessions and Deists were generally not allowed to hold public office.
pbrucetube 2 years ago
A Pantheist believes as well in Mother Nature, but a Deist believe in Nature's God, like the founding fathers said.
A Pantheist as well rejects the Bible. For me, Jesus was just a man with theist beliefs. That's all.
SciPanFreethinker5 2 years ago
You sound more like a New Age Moderate than a Deist. A Deist believes that an Intelligent Entity created everything and started the motions. But then nature took over. But the Deist Intelligent Entity may not be concerned with us anymore. Or It may be doing something more important. But I do believe that love is the message that the world needs to hear. Check out my videos!!
LifeIsABigPuzzle 3 years ago
Einstein was a Pantheist, not a deist. He hated the belief that the universe was created. So he was not a creationist. He didn't even believed in the afterlife.
SciPanFreethinker5 3 years ago
Check your facts Einstein was an agnostic he said and a Humanitarian
New York chapter. It all depends on what
you mean by creation. You create a house with bricks and a world with plasma. That doesn't mean you created
the plasma. God is a human concept that
is just part of creation. Without our Gods
we would have very little art.
petebax1 3 years ago
First at all, everyone is agnostic. You and I are as well agnostic, even if we call ourselves Deist, or Pantheist. Maybe you haven't heard of Scientific Pantheism, which has a lot of common with humanism, just like atheism.
Well, by creator in Pantheism, is the Universe itself. That's why Pantheism is mostly famous with physicians, like Carl Sagan, Michio Kaku, Stephen Hawkings, and Einstein. They all have pantheistic point of view.
SciPanFreethinker5 3 years ago
I will not be pedantic as to what the different words mean. To me Mother
Nature created everything and that includes all the religions. She had a reason for doing so and that can be expressed as reason. Perhaps the definition of a human is reason, but as I look around me I am not certain of that either.
petebax1 3 years ago
You just said something pantheistic. A Pantheist believe that the Universe, or Mother Nature, created everything, just like Cosmoligicism state. Deism is when you believe that a supernatural architecture, which you can call god, created everything. Of course, such god doesn't interfere in anything, which some people call Nature's God. Nature's God can't be Mother Nature, because Nature is Mother Nature.
SciPanFreethinker5 3 years ago
I am not sure that energy hasn't always
been around just changing state.
I am not sure energy hasn't got some form of reasoning either.
The decision to change from subdividing
cells to male and female must have been
the best bit of probabilty maths in history.
Like Einstein said I don't think Mother Nature plays dice with the Universe.
petebax1 3 years ago
Emergence is a force of nature and in most cases a good thing. Many things depend on emergence to survive. Where it becomes a problem is when man uses emergence for evil.
I think crowd behaviour is also a form of emergence. Especially the pilgrims going to Mecca who often trample each other to death
in their devotion.
Is that where the idea came from.
Zessential 3 years ago
In the light of your critique of Einstein, a breathless world awaits your verdict on the solutions to the Dirac Equation.
Dirac showed that for electrons with half-integral spin v1 and v2 are the two NEGATIVE ENERGY spin states -p and -E. A POSITRON would be produced whenever a negative energy electron received energy>2mc2 and was thrust into positive energy state.
Would Dirac's 'sea of negative energy' thus constitute the antithesis of your 'God' i.e. the 'Devil'? Please enlighten us.
catinger 3 years ago
I have just put a new video on the Declaration
of Independence would appreciate your criticisms . Pete
petebax1 2 years ago
Every hospital every food maufacturer every
water company every public health company in the world for 400 years grows cells in dishes.
Yet not one cell that as grown its self?
But we teach as a fact that life just evolved?
When are you going to wake up and realise it isn't that simple?
It takes some form of energy to create life about which we know nothing.
petebax1 3 years ago
Christians have always propogated Charles Darwin and the American revolutionaries as total Christians,isnt it!
beliefplusreason 3 years ago
Yes people need to believe in Santa Jesus
petebax1 3 years ago
hello, petebax my only opinion was that is it necessary to believe in the divinity of deity or is it to believe in the simple virtues which are needed to be emulated in order to become a good human being? In the 13 virtues of BENJAMIN FRANKLIN he proposed the idea of imbibing the moral value of humbleness of JESUS.Did he assassinated the character of JESUS certainly not instead he made GOD happier by intaking the real message GOD has ordered through his prophets.
beliefplusreason 3 years ago
Most schools world wide study Biology and have done so for hundreds of years. Yet not one of them can grow a single cell from the soup of life. Can you believe that!
Perhaps they have an ingrediant missing and this post was to try and offer a rational explanation rather than the lies offered by
most schools.
You cannot create life can you? yet somebody can.
petebax1 3 years ago
Don't you think that the survival of the fittest is just genetic ? Perhaps what you call love is just a product of this?
Zessential 3 years ago
NO. First Life has to be created, Second Single cells had to invent sex for complex creatures to evolve.
Survival of the fittest is a product of love
which created life in the first place.
How could single cell creatures invent sex?
This is also a product of love.
Many think this is the best gift of love.
There are better things than sex also the gift of love.
petebax1 3 years ago
I think survival of the fittest and love and hate are the same. Religion as taught this for
a long time the fittest go to heaven whatever that is.
Zessential 3 years ago
Proof of the existance of God. Einsteins
local hidden variable theory applied to probabilty. An example of this is Darwins
Survival of the Fittest applied to evolution.
The probabilty outcome of evolution would be
completely random without this local variable
"fittest". Therefore Love and Hate can be called local variables which are applied to probabilty. If you accept that love and hate exist you are accepting God and the Devil.
They are both hidden variables.
petebax1 3 years ago
All I asked was do atheists love?
petebax1 3 years ago
Peter, humility towards a fictional being is useless. I save my humility for occasions when I meet a great person. Ans, please answer me this: How do Atheists specifically contribute to global warming? Thanks in advance.
evospecies 3 years ago
Most atheists believe the world was created they just believe that it was created by no one. Evolution by accident I can understand that and I too once held that view. Then I came to the same conclussion as Albert Einstein
"I don't believe God plays dice with the Universe." Once I understood what he was saying
I became a Deist.
petebax1 3 years ago
im a DEiSt but i believe in reincarnation, i also believe that God creates and destroys the universe constantly in an infinite way
american 3 years ago
Evolution is a form of reincarnation. Today scientists talk about the memory of Genes.
Which is often called instinct, it exists in all creatures.
We may destroy ourselfs with Global Warming unless we learn to Love the earth. Perhaps we have to prove that we are ready to evolve or reincarnate to the next level.
Should we destroy all life,
Evolution or God will go on without us and all our stupid religions.
The question is; Why are we evolving or reicarnating?
petebax1 3 years ago
You seem to be teaching evolution as a religion?
Zessential 3 years ago
The one and only lesson we must acknowledge as creationists, or Deists is that to create and nurture, care for each other, is to please our Creater. To destroy or harm or neglect or fail to help those we could , is to dishonor God. We were each of us given the gift of life. Given.. you didn't earn life, it wasn't rented, it was and is a gift, only through giving can we do the Lords work. no matter how we all may disagree on the subject of religion, we each of us know this to be true
thomaspaine35 3 years ago
I agree but must say that also gos for all Gods creations. Recently I had a pint of beer in Thomas Paines Inn where he wrote many of his early pamphlets; in Lewes England. Thomas Paine a good example to everybody.
petebax1 3 years ago
What do you think about the creating the big bang in Europe ? They say they can create the beginning of the Universe.
LadyxxBlues 3 years ago
I am proud to be one. thus I could go to Muslim Mass, Christian Church, Catholic Church. thus I do not believe in scripture I do how ever understand and apply the good value that every religion has too offer. I praise the Lord and thankful for all the things he provided us to be happy.
Pogi724 3 years ago 2
I hope this brings you as much happiness as myself.
petebax1 3 years ago
De"ism\ (d[=e]"[i^]z'm), n. [L. deus god: cf. F. d['e]isme. See Deity.] The doctrine or creed of a deist; the belief or system of those who acknowledge the existence of one God, but deny revelation. Webster Dictionary
We also believe that evolution is a fact.
petebax1 3 years ago
God will do nothing its up to us. If we wipe out humanity and all our religions God will go on without us. Evolution dosn't need humanity.
petebax1 3 years ago
That collar you wear indicates you are a priest of some kind. What are your denomination?
Faidros62 3 years ago
Helen Fisher has also written that love evolved from animals so it is not a human quality. Gods love can be seen in the formation of the earth. How we got our seasons
How the earth got its water How dinasaurs were
replaced by mammals Why sabre tooth tigers disapeered, top preditor, the list is endless.
All these are factual events that are far more
unbelievable than anything in the bible.
Helen Fisher is excellent but what she is talking about is mainly sexual love. Devine love is better.
petebax1 3 years ago
Helen Fisher has prove that love is part of the human brain you can check out her videos on you tube.
HelenxxxF 3 years ago
Richard Dawkins is wrong because he dosn't realise that religion evolves. Every religion teaches the same Love Thy Neighbour which is more important than anything Einstein or Darwin taught. By neighbour that includes all
creation. Love also evolves. The shame is that no religion practises Gods first law.
Love thy Neighbour. Or to say it better Love all Creation.
Peter Baxter
petebax1 3 years ago
Made me think and I agree with you. All major
religions teach the same. One Earth One Humanity One God.
Stanxxcarlos 3 years ago
first of all this guy's voice is unbearable. second there was a letter from einstein about a year before he died where he says religion is "childish" and based on superstition.
dwagina 3 years ago
I could not agree with Einstein more all religions are childish but we are all the children of God. Can anyone but God understand a multi-diamensional world, including Einstein
Thats what we live in.
petebax1 3 years ago
Every religion and most scientists claim people are atheists who are not. Gods only gift to mankind is free will, which they don't
want you to have.....Why?
Don't follow anyone, use your free will, and let facts be your guide.
Pete
petebax1 3 years ago
Great Video! Isn't is weird how most of the famous scientists of history believed in some form of God? Like Galileo, Leonardo da Vinci, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin(I didn't even know that before this video), etc.
WMAKF 3 years ago
Beautiful video!
DeismAndReason 3 years ago
I believe the creator of the universe was God
but I don't believe the creator was a human being and thats a fact.
Pete
petebax1 3 years ago
A well informed video! My term for God is the Great Architect of the Universe, Father of Lights and Nature's God.
"You think you are too intelligent to believe in God. I am not like you". Napoleon Bonaparte
"I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God". Abraham Lincoln
DeismAndReason 3 years ago
Thank you for you comment. Most of the worlds
problems can be traced to not knowing the difference between fact and belief.
Most beliefs are not facts.
People should not die for their beliefs but be prepared to die for your facts.
Pete
petebax1 3 years ago
very great video. i do not think that science opposes god or religion. science is simply understanding how god works, and what we know of how god works through science is not even 1%.
sometimes it irritates me when ultra-religious or atheists claim to know everything about god, or know enough science to discount a god. the fact that new scientific breakthroughs occur everyday should tell us that we really know so little of the universe. i think god only lets us know what he wants us to know
amanijuu08 3 years ago
One problem with all scientists is they don't know the difference between fact and belief.
The flat earth and the big bang all scientific beliefs or facts far more nonsense than any religion. Yet they poke fun at religions come on now!!! Today it is inflation or string theory more facts!!
petebax1 3 years ago
Please provide evidence for: My evidence is atoms exist at the edge of the universe which could not exist under the big bang. I guess since scientific evidence doesn't work for you as evidence and rather you're own "thoughts" seem more conclusive, will leave this alone. I'm sure you're a nice guy and your whole love thing is harmless so I wish you good luck and cheers.
BetaSP 3 years ago
To poke fun at science We have the big bang theory that states everything was created at one moment in time?? Only the catholics could invent
that one??? Some magic trick..
petebax1 3 years ago
That was an amazing speech about deism. I agree with you 100%
LilKeCleoN74 3 years ago
I read Einstein's letters to christian people and others who first wrote him with questions about where God stood in his theories etc.. I got the impression his spirituality if you will was just an awe of everything that existed not that any God existed. I think for all intents and purposes he was atheist. that's what I got out of what he was saying.
BetaSP 3 years ago
Einstein said I don't think God plays dice with the universe. He was wrong God does play dice with the universe only they are loaded with love
Pete
petebax1 3 years ago
So you're saying Deist can cure global warming before science can? A deist wouldn't even know global warming exists without science so I'll stick with hard work and investigation over thinking to a unproven god of your imagination.