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  • omg this is the scariest shit. LOOK AT HIM. LOOK AT THE THINGS HE IS DOING WITH HIS JAW AND FACE ALL THE FUCKING TIME WHEN HE ISNT EVEN ON THE DRUG. FUCK DRUGS FUCK MDMA!

  • this video may be old but .... hes a puss for sayn 6 hrs in jail is scary try 3 mths in jail without talkn to a judge oe a lawer ..... funckn wanker

  • Johns brother's are just a family of fuckups to say the least. Dickheads.

  • Everyone makes mistakes. you cant judge someone like that.

    if you dont know what theyv been through...

  • HUGE GURN AT 3:38

  • @joseffz hahahahahhahahahahahhahaha!!!!­!

  • Why the fuck did he do this interview?? All he had to say was someone gave it to him and he forgot about it. He didn't have to admit anything just take the slap on the wrist.

  • @Delorian82 because he's got balls

  • what a bitch ass hahahahahahaha

  • I love Andrew Johns hes God so people get the fuck over it i bet most of the people say shit are doing drugs every week so get over it you docuhbags God deserves respect!!

  • Hahah.. random person.. fuck that he didn't want his dealer to get busted.. Whats wrong its only ecstacy...

  • his honest and down to earth just a party animal

  • looks like luke wilson

    

  • idiot

  • thumbs up if you respect him more after watching this interview!

  • MAN DESERVES RESPECT!!

  • Couldnt tell you how many times I have seen Andrew J fucked off his face at Fanny's or King Street. Top bloke, great footballer. Sorry it ended this way but hat of to this interview :) Well done

  • @mightyjet777 kings st in newtown?

  • @Mikey5421 Nope King Street in Newcastle

  • I,ve read Mr Johns book and what you see in this is the real deal he knows RL has given him a great life but biopolar is a bitch he also has to live with. The mans honesty about himself has to be respected.

  • i love the face he pulls at 3:36

  • He lives with bipolar on a daily basics and I can tell you that's no fun I did heaps of illegal things untreated.top bloke with problems

  • Regardless!!!!, He was the best!!

  • haha fukin legend

  • Well at least he honest. Not like these Yank baseball players lying under oath!

    Ecstacy does not help a footie player....so what....booze is a drug as well.

  • anybody got more vids (footy lol) of joey?? nobody is close to the skills johns had (yes im referring to lockyer)

  • @luke231089 Joey....i mean goey Johns ain't shit. Lockyer is 10 times the man johns will ever be. johns may have won 3 dally m's in a row but it was all drug related. personally, the name andrew johns is the biggest disgrace to the greatest and toughest game on this planet. Oh yeah....he's also a racist, what kind of so called high profile player would act in that manner. I understand that wendell sailor paid for his stupidity and was banned for 2 years. johns should be banned for life.

  • @marleyfromdownunder You are boring. Those drugs would have made his gameplay 10x worse you idiot i won't even bother reading what else you wrote because you look like a fool with that comment already.

  • @luke231089 Truth Hurts..doesn't it.......Name callin only sinks you lower. hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Never realised what a great interviewer Gussie was. Love his open questions and use of  'pauses' to get Johns to say a bit more when he wants a bit more info off him. He's been trained well by someone.

    To be honest I would be more surprised if Joey DIDN'T score down the Church. Everyone is off their chops down there.

    And I should know... I'm a frequent patron for 'sunday service' ahahahaaaaa

  • It takes a lot of balls to admit to using MDMA... That's serious shit and I give Andrew a lot of credit for this...

  • Fuck off you bunch of wankers u cant judge him atleast hes got the balls to admit it and tell the whole truth. I bet all you losers have done worse but your not in the limelight so noone gives a fuck what u do. Joey owes us nothing so he shouldnt hav to say sorry to us if anything we owe him for what hes done for rugby league

  • These John’s brothers must have had an immoral upbringing. Shame on their parents for giving birth to adulterous gang-bangers and coke-snorters. They are both scum, whose only claim to any fame is kicking a rugby ball around on an oval. What abhorrent individuals these two are. Matty a gang-banging adulterous wanker, and his brother Andrew a druggie and racist. Good things to be proud of – NOT!

  • A racists and a junkie!! Fuck off Johns, you racist scum bag!

  • @Tehui1974 fuck up

  • @2620productions And fuck you too!

  • FUCKING RACISTS CUNT!!! NOW WE'LL SEE THE NRL's position He should have no more involvement in Rugby League Fucking Racists... If I see him in Public I'm going to catch an assault charge LOL

  • @kococream wake up to yourself how old are you 4 years old your a child grow up

  • Listen to this wanker, no brains growing up...then decided to take ectasy, then be racist when he is a water boy, was he the best player in Rugby League???

  • Drug cheat! Liar! and now a fucking racist.

    Immortal my arse.

  • wipe the drug taking fuck from the record books, he is still happy to take all the glory from his playing days,the ARL should man up and wipe the piece of shit,greatest player of all time what a joke he is not a great he is a turd who only owned up because he got caught out.

  • @demarajaja amazing comment. truest comment ever.

  • NSW Greatest player is/was a pill popper. What does that tell you..... NSW ARE SHIT

  • was this the first time he admitted to taking drugs?

  • I remember watching this live on channel 9, and as soon as Johns said his been taken drugs for almost 10yrs, my face was the same Gus's face.....HOLY SHIT WTF!!!!!

  • @Padzyk same..

  • Get over it he was a great player that made a lot of money and partied hard. Who doesn get pissed and drop a couple of disco biscuits every now and then. For fuck sakes people. He wasn addicted to pills, he is a pisshead like most young aussies not some junky. I dont even like johns or newcastle i go for brisbane, my opinion comes down to common sense. Why does the public think that once someone becomes a star that they have to conform to moral expectations. It is ridiculous.

  • @bigkevyredcliffe reason why i dont wanna be famous

  • I wonder if this maggot is thinking of all the Knights supporters who lost money every time he had an apparent injury that forced him out for the season. Fucking piece of shit taking drugs and getting paid for it. He should be made to pay the money back for the years he had to leave the field due to his drug taking. As i said fucking maggot.

  • proof e isn't too bad

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  • at 9 they look after the fallen mates....pat on the back or a job you'll be right mate

  • good on him for getting out in public and doing the invterview and admitting to it

  • lockyer > johns

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  • wtf are u tlkn about u random, lockyers been clean since day 1 cunt

  • Joey's definitely 4 given in my book.... love his sideline commentary especially a couple of weeks ago when the Tigers played the Eels his voice breaks when he laughs. all you other hating wankers gain some life experience

  • he should just be like lol watever i was having a good time.

  • kudos to johns, im an oldschool knights fan and used to love johns untill one game i attended he spat hes moutguard out because they were losing and got hell filthy. This is good form but, he copped it and didnt try and dog out of it, kudos.

  • volrathy ..If u seriously think aj took drugs while actually on the field yr the 1 who must b fucked up on drugs for thinking that... hes a professional on the field and a normal person off ,,, he aint a robot,,every1 is different ! so get the fuck over it cessnock lad

  • all u people judge him on this event! wat about all the good things he has done like charity work ! hes a great guy and player so b it!

  • "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

  • What a load of bull !! He is a true brother to the gang banger!

    A nice pair for their poor Mother and Father !

  • group sex with his brother Matthew while on pills and sniff, yeah awesome. what a bunch of sickos

  • if u havent done it ..dont knock it!

  • I grew up with andrew,,went to st pats primary and st peters maitland!  hes always been the best at want he did,, i take my hat off to him for spilling his guts on tv!! good on ya joe,, proud to b from cessnock! dean garnett

  • he's like gurning the whole way through the interview hahaha!

    priceless.

  • Coming down off a few E's probably!

  • who cares if hes a world famous footy player or not, its his life, he can do what he wants in his own time

  • True but the fact is he's a role model. He was also getting chosen over other players working their arses off to get into rep teams so I guess people really need to look at those in charge I mean doing drugs his entire career I am sure drug testers would have seen somewhere along the way he was on something.

  • who would win a fight out of these 2??

  • i agree with a previous comment made earlier if the man wants to take ecstasy in his on time in his private life let him,don't make a national scandal out of it and tarnish his career!

    there's plenty of things out there worse than an E tablet.

  • He's a role model to kids. He was labelled as the greatest rugby player in the world. He KNOWS he's in the spotlight, he KNOWS he's watched by the media.

    It's just plain stupid to take drugs, whether you're a sportstar or not.

  • look at michael phelps, he became even more inspirational and a greater known person after being known as a marijuana user.

  • i agree its scripted, why dosent joey just say "i'm retired, i just wanna let me hair down get drunk and dance all night till 6 in the morning" as long as it aint a problem, then what differance does it make to anyone else????

  • Gus Gould would have to be one of the most ignorant guys on the planet, who obviously knows dick all about mental health and what Joey went through and still goes through. Why he got the gig to interview him is beyond me.

  • Scripted pile of bull.

  • fantastic man. read his book. gr8 guy, great player

  • I cant get hold of his book anywher! I ordered a copy off amazon at xmas and it still hasn't arrived! You're English rite? Wher did you get yours? x

  • Takes alot of balls to fess up like Anderw did, a lesson the whole of man kind can take to Heart!

    Your still the Best AJ!...

  • this man is a coward he wouldnt have said anything if he didnt get caught and even then he made excuses 1st he said it was planted on him then he said it wasnt his then he said it was his and that it was because of the stress BULLSHIT he doesnt know what stress is he gets paid more than the normal person will get in 3 in only 1 year for playing a game! and he is a rolemodel who let all of his fans down...evryone get your head out of your asses and scrach this man out of rugby league

  • Andrew Johns is a legend

  • u obviously dont know the man.. he is a great sportsman and person.. wat he does in his own time is his business! yr the coward abt drilling people by words!

  • He admits here he was playing professional football while on mind altering drugs and he excuses his illegal behaviour by blaming it on depression. A gross insult to hundreds of thousands of depressed people who work positively against their problem. Finally he has no insight and no contrition. What an arrogant tosser !

  • fineas77

    Obviously based on your comments u wont mind if your children use Andrew Johns as a role model. May be they will take up pill popping and group sex. U wouldnt mind would u? After all what they do in their private life is no one elses business. Right?

  • Nice reply,,, of course i wouldnt want my kids taking drugs! every1 has bad days at work and these were aj`s bad days at work..he  wants to move on but people like u cry over spilt milk ! let it b! best player in the world and u know it!

  • @Progamble your a fool

  • ALL I SEE HERE IS PEOPLE SAYING DRUGS ARE BAD, THEN THE DRUG USERS SAYING "THERE NOT AS BAD AS ALCOHOL" OMFG!

    How about There all FUCKED, Alcohol ,cigarettes , E, ANYTHING, its all fucked we should throw it all away and look after our lives. Frying your Brain Slowly or Getting Drunk and having a car accident or Smoking yourself into Lung Cancer IS ALL FUCKED, NONE IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER. So all you drug uses that use the excuse "Not as bad as Alcohol" you all have your brain Fried.

  • omfg this is so true!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

  • Your a dumb arse rooster!!!

  • amazing what you can do on drugs. might start taking them.

  • hitting up the magic buttons just fuking relax aye

  • Great great interview. So honest. And people need to realise that this is just a normal part of our society that affects all walks of life.

    Remember, people deal with fame and pressure in different ways. Look at someone like say Gene Simmons from Kiss compared to Kurt Cobain of Nirvana.  Both famous rock stars but one of them couldn't handle it.

    I think it's going to be very interesting in 50 years from now looking back to this point. Society's reaction to drug use is bound to change.

  • Oh yeah, and the way he manages to keep a straight face.

  • This guy is unbelievable. Respect is definitely due for his unrivaled honesty and courage.

  • Money-Bill Williams u should watch this to learn how to really "stand up"

  • lmao

  • I'm an American, to get that out of the way. I was lucky enough to go to Origin 2 of 05'. But that is how you sack up and be a man. American football players get caught so often and they always plead "I didn't do it" or whatever...

    You do something wrong...do this...what AJ just did in this clip...SACK UP, BE A MAN...ADMIT YOU'RE IN THE WRONG...ACCEPT THE CONSEQUENCES...MOVE ON...

  • Johns answered every question straight up and didnt flinch. That takes guts. Ecstasy isnt performance enhancing,i think hes entitled to do as he pleases.Its his life,he made his choices,doesnt need to apologise and he didnt cheat anyone,good on him.

  • @StarksSprewell

    right answers but? phil smart question?

    Darren lockyer Greg Ingles Wanker Manson so forth....

    QLD BUT

    Joey footy skills was second to none!

    Every one F*#cks up big time in their life.

    Just human!

    Footy Legand

    BUT

    Go the QLD hahahaahhhahahahha

  • exctacy isnt a performance enhancing drug,so his still a great player.... however they do have an anti drug policy where players can be suspended,the ARU and NRL i believe are under the same agreement with the world anti-doping agency or whatever its called...so if joey was caught during his years,he would of been suspended.....my opinion is i wont take anything football related away from him,but i have lost respect for him especially as a role model....

  • But I suppose you cant expect a footballer to be a role model off the field.

    Its about what he does on the field where the young ones look up to him. On the field he is a great role model.

    But people (parents) cant expect celebritys to be their childs role model away from the game, its up to the parents to take that responsibility, its not Joeys responsibility, especially when he doesnt even know them.

  • Well some (or a majority?) ecstasy tablets contain others substances like meth or speed in them. But MDMA in itself is not a performing enhancing drug I agree.

  • ha ha he is so off his face in this interview!!! who cares if he took eccys for years!! they dnt enhance ya sporting skills... trust me if they did i'd turn into the eccy monster!! eatin that shit like cookies... who fuckin cares!! YEAHYA JOEY iiS THE MANN!!!!!

  • Good on him for being honest. We've all seen him maggot around Newcastle for years.

  • Cheating? I wouldn't call using illicit recreational drugs cheating. Ecstasy is hardly a sports performance enhancing drug.

    He struggles with addiction and depression and he admitted that to the world whilst being interviewed by one of his mentors. That takes alot of courage.

    Good on you Joey

  • Why did Wendell Sailor get banned from sport for 2 years if it isn't classed as cheating?

  • It's not considered cheating in either case. However Sailor snorted coke before a game. Theres a big difference

  • Well said your exactly right.

    People look at Johns now, or when it was revealed as a cheat, thinking that it raised his performance, where as he very rarely did it during the season, when it was in the off season.

  • What Chadhead said mate, Wendell had cocane right before a game.

    And when Johns did it he hardly ever did it during the season, because if he did.. he would've gotten busted easy.

  • Far out all you must do is sit there everyday and read the telegraph and not listen to those who know what they're talking about.

    There is no way Johns could have revealed that during his career, like what are you going to do? He won 2 golden boots 3 dali M awards Highest Point scorer in NRL history.

    Hes the all time greatest, and as if he would come out and do that during his career. Who would? No one.

    He is the all time greatest no matter what anyone says.

  • well said mate..im a cessnock lad and proud to know him! every1 is bagging him..i respect yr comments!

  • Great player - will be an immortal soon

  • awesome.

  • lol andrew johns is a loser

  • fuck off you tool your a loser

  • At least he admits it .. My god australia are you living a lie?

  • Lipkee 1: the most gayest person of all time......

  • mannn lipkee1 u havnt relized that every1 thinks ur a idiot....

    jst shut ur mouth and ill tell u again, "go play wid ur mate JAMIE GORRARD u fag....

    pisss off.........

  • Andre Johns- Greatest Rugby League player of all time, ecstasy, big deal, get over it, he's a legend on the field,off the field, no worries.

    Nothing can change the fact that he is simply brilliant with a footy in his hands.

  • Tiddjypuds , i hate cricket , i think its a fags game , but i refer you to a comment made by one of our best ever cricketers by the name of Keith Miller , who was also a fighter pilot in a REAL war . He said something to the effect of ' sport isnt pressure , but an opposition fighter pilot up your arse trying to kill you is . Some dopey looking moron from Cessnock walking around Newcastle playing footy . Oh fuck , the pressure , the pressure . Pressure my ass . Hes a GRUB . And an OVERRATED one

  • Read Andrew Johns's book, its all in there.

    I dont condone drug taking, but I can see where he was coming from regarding escaping the pressure he was under (and I'm not just meaning the footy)

    Andrew Johns is a legend on the field, and with his honesty, candid opinions and massive potential to reach people who are living what he was (and still is) managing, could become a legend off the field as well.

    All the best Nugget!

  • Wally Lewis had more ability in his pinky than the country bumpkin Andrew Johns ever had . AND the KING did it against quality opposition .JOHNS was the most overrated player EVER . Just watch the tapes imbos . Watch Joey get belted by Jamie Goddard and dopey looking joeys blinder in his last game against Canberra . Buderus has been better for Newcastle than andrew johns . If Super League didnt happen Joey wouldnt have got a look in . FACT IMBECILES .

  • mate you have absolutely no idea what your talking about- the king was an amazing five eigth and as most famous for his 30 plus origin appearances and performances there.

    Joey was week-to-week the most dominant player EVER, despite having a horrible run with injuries - you moron.

  • Yeah lipkee1 fuck off !!

  • whos Jamie Goddard? Some person with a head like rollon deodrant?

  • No, hes the person who bashed dumb looking joeys head in . Thats who he is.

  • ok...who favors lipkee1 to shut up and piss off...

    post a comment if he should and give that little ass licker a mouth full and tell the bitch off cause johns is still number 1 in the world......

    u mite aswell go ass lick Jamie Goddard u fag....

    so piss off cause ur gay....

    WHO FAVORS THAT BOYS.........

  • Jealous of Joey !!!! Youve got to be fucking kidding . Joey got smashed by Jamie Goddard . How embarassing . Joey , the most overrated player EVER . THE KING had more ability in his pinky than Johns . As did many others .

  • ...Lipkee honestly mate that was disgraceful... ahaha Jamie goddard gets a few hits on Joey and thats the reason why hes a dickhead?...scratching the bottom of that barrel arent ya champ....unlukcy mate...hurts to be wrong doesnt it...ahahahaha

  • sex drugs rugby league when i played we had a few sculls of green ginger wine in the dressing sheds before a cold night game BRING BACK THE BIFF party hard joey u only live once u legend

  • Well at least we never took performance enhancing drugs. So he's a party boy, so what?

  • How about src21390 shutting the fuck up . 1 He was not even close to being the best . 2 How does his boring revelation slash interview with sexy Phil take guts . He got caught and found out you fuckwit . If he didnt , do you think he wouldve come clean . You probably do you dumb cunt . I suppose you think his neck injuries were authentic too dickhead . Just believe all the Daily Telegraph hype and bullshit propaganda and the ch9 spin . Stupid flip . The most overrated player EVER and a grub .

  • Lipkee you're a deadset cockhead. His book was being released about a month after the incident and he had already written in everything about his drug and alcohol abuse. He didnt have to go on the footy show mate but it set it straight for blokes like yourself he did. ahaha its makes me laugh. You've been jealous of Joey for so long and looking for an excuse to hate him. ahaha you are fukwit mate! oh yeh and Joey Was named the Greatest Player from the Last 30 years...when did Lewis play?...ahaha

  • lipkee1 you are a fucking wanker.

    shut the fuck up u poof.

    andrew johns is a legend of the game and hes done alot in this game and ur bagging him i mean cmon ur a joke. i reckon this bloke deserves extra credit because he admitted all this on t.v now that takes guts. im not a knights fan but joey is a champion of the game and if any1 doubts if he was the best then youse r a joke too.

  • Youre the poor fuckwits if you honestly think Johns the eccy gobbler who JAMIE GODDARD belted was the best player ever . Would not carry the REAL best Wally Lewis bag to the oval . NOT EVEN CLOSE to the best .

  • Wally was known as The King in Origin, but he didn't dominate from week to week like Joey did.

  • andrew johns is a legend....

    lipkee1 your a wanker.......

    r u the number 1 playn in the world u fag...

    no so shut the fuk up.....

    the start talkin wen u are.........

  • Yeah that lipkee1 is a Tool.

    He dont know shit

  • Thanks for the honesty!!!  The ARL have armies of PR types to cover these sorts of things up, but he admitted to more than what he was busted for. Good on him!!

  • if he was a canterbury bulldogs player everyone would be calling for his head,but as long as hes a white australian he can do no wrong.this interview is a fucking farce,just another set up to sell his book and to tell the world that the knights and other people high up in rugby league covered his arse for ten years.

  • fuck off you cock head. Andrew Johns is a legend and what he did in coming clean and 100% honest is a credit to him. Bulldogs are rapists anyway!

  • that last comment showed how much of a dud westie you really are!credit for coming clean after ten years!100% honest shouldn't be used in the same sentence as that cheating cunt,he should be stripped of any achievements and awards he recieved in that time,johns is a junkie who should have a criminal record and the doggies were not guilty after police investigation.

  • pills are strange tings

    u neva realy plan it it just hapnz everi nw n den...

    fuk it lik he cnt change it...any1 who takes pills shud undastand

  • who cares if he took recreational drugs as long as its not steroids or performance enhancing drugs

  • Thats exactly Right! The drugs did not make him play any better, if anything it would make him play bad, he had bipolar aswell which made it twice as hard to play so good week in week out, im just sick of the fuckwits that think he is a bad person for doing it, like it shouldnt concern anyone, but him, because how did it affect anyone.

  • It was no surprise to Newcastle when he took drugs. Everyonr knew.

    He is the all time greatest!!!

  • Andrew, U are a Fucking Legend. Thanks for your HONESTY.You have really gone UP in my opinion.

  • It's a great interview - Gus grilled him BIG TIME

  • Yes thats right .Maybe they are something to you , but not me . I stand by my comments .

  • If you can play that well on e maybe they should give them out to everyone before the games.

  • Haha thats what I said on another video. He still played awesome with E when normally it should affect your game and play bad. Haha. Legend. But still, he shouldnt of done it.

  • Yeah I agree with what your saying, but when I heard that he took drugs, it didnt affect me, and it shouldnt have affected anny of the fans....like what does it have to do with them, like if anything i liked him even more than what i did.

  • well i quit sport representative sport to take drugs and, if i had've known you could get away with it, i would've kept playing

  • Just some overrated countrE bumpkin , that the Daily Telegraph relentlessly promoted . Always talking shit about hating the attention , so goes to London , and where does this flip go ? THE CHURCH . Full of Aussies and kiwis . Could have gone anywhere else in London and they wouldnt have known who the dopey looking cunt was . Some dopey grub . How hard do you reckon he tried in the friday night game against Saints at Newcastle ? Hang on , doesnt he love the Knights , little Joey boy ?

  • Yeah mate thats all you do is read the daily telegraph...

    because you havent seen it for yourself..you just read gossup.

    half of the writers pretty much only write thier opinions and hardly have a clue.

    Oi and we dont fucking care if he took drugs or not and who he was or what his personality was, all he is, is a fantastic footballer..nothing else. Hes not the prime minister or a saint for fuck sake so it shouldnt concern anyone

  • It doesnt concern me what the country bunpkin does . I couldnt give a fuck . Ill guarantee this you fuckwit . Ive seen a whole lot more than yourself prick . Why is it that youve defended this nit on every thread on this website . U must be a relative , on wages promoting him , or a lost misguided cockhead . Which is it FUCKWIT .

  • Maybe you have seen alot more than me, yes I admit that, but have you seen more, and you say you can read the game better than, Peter Sterling, Phil Gould, Laurie Daily, Ricky Stuart, Paul Vauton, John Raper, Darren Lockyer, Johnathon thurston, Brad Fittler, Paul Harrigan, and alot of others, so your saying you know more than them and that they're wrong and your right...bahahhaha

  • so what joey made a mistake at least he was honest about it and that he deserves some respect for coming clean.

  • Its leagues worst kept secret that the Johns brothers have been on it for years, including Matthew. Just watch the sly look Andrew gives Matthew on the panel when Gould asks if his family knew about his drug taking at 8:28.

  • Good Man for being clean,upfront and honest. For somebody of his status it was a brave thing to do. There's nothing better than telling the truth. The truth sets you free, he'd be feeling some much better and relieved. Good man.

  • Andrew Johns is a bigger role model than any music, film or sport star in this country. After reading his book 'The Two of Me' I believe his star is now bigger than ever.

    God bless you Joey, what a man you are.

  • Don't get me wrong, Johns was a fool for taking drugs, and this comment in no way excuses him. But you need to look at two clear facts. 1. He didn't take performance enhancing drugs, so he's not a 'cheat' like a lof of assholes have said, his acheivements on the footy field will stay forever. 2. He came out, bore his soul and confessed to everything and apologised unreservedly, unlike that asshole Cousins who pissed off the the US while his dad read out a statement.

  • He tried to sell me some crack once

  • judge this bloke for what you see on the rugby league field...he is famous for that