HASNT ANY ONE REALIZED YET THAT THIS PERSON ISNT HUMAN LOOK AT THE EYES FRAME BY FRAME .. SIR IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT GO ON CAMERA N E MORE AS YOUR SHAPESHIFTING EYES/TEETH ARE QUITE OBVIOUS .. NICE TRY THO YOU CAN FOOL YOUR VIEWERS BUT YOU CANT FOOL ME.. LOVE AND LIGHT HIDDEN ONE
its 100% simple but americans wont agree cause they live there, America is fucked up. the whole world would agree except for the cowboys/aka rednecks/aka ignorant pests
Johnathon Irish, Stephanie Taylor and Cheyenne (baby) are reunited and they stated that they are now under a gag order. My question to George4Title is: What are you gonna do with the money you collected for the case of these parents... Is that money gone now?
George4Title removed two videos from his channel, the one where in he states that there he set up a PayPal account for the family and the one in wich the ex-husband of Stephanie Taylor tells some very incriminating claims towards her and Johnathan Irish.
This story is starting to really piss me off. It's heartbraking that any infant be ripped from a mother's arm and the affidavit alludes to other allegations and accusations as though there was a history of the mother's children put in jeopardy and John Irish having to attend some kind "Ending Violence" counseling.
@spiralcosmosart Now, I just heard the baby was sexually assaulted! I can't even express how sick this makes me. And that some people still think cps would have hell to pay for taking a baby for no reason. I mean, really! I wish some of these idiots would just wake up! I'm just as pissed as you are, I think.
@thalonelygirl How is anyone suppose to take this story seriously when Stewart Rhodes the OathKeepers spokesperson blacks out half the affidavit? If you have stories of some kind of abuse happening please confirm your sources and publish them if you believe them to be true.
Even the Oath Keepers have stated, "We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states... a long list of other assertions against both parents". There MUST be something else that we are not hearing.
If you make the rules you can change them at will. If you own the the "truth" You can make it what ever you want it to be as well...States have made no bones about it they own your kids .
agree monty, ive just seen a couple of videos on this, there HAS to be more to this story...i am curious as to why her other 2 children were taken previously...?
Monty in his update video now George is asking for donations to HIS paypal account on behalf of this couple. Sounds like an elaborate scam orchestrated by George and this couple. Might want to look into it.
I don't know if you ever seen that video, but there was a couple panhandler girls that george was showing in his video. He then asked for donations to his paypal account on their behalf. LOL Like he was somehow going to find random panhandlers again and give them money. Of course he deleted the video the next day. Hes done this many times before using a fake background story, thats why I think its a scam hes setting up.
Hes getting some flak in his comments about this donation fund. Most people are saying the story is a fraud now. You might have to make a followup video on this drama.
@jordankkk2000 Comming from a racist POS with a Skinhead vid Favorited that can't Spell for shit and to top it off is SUBBED to Davidsfarm AKA Pedo Palace of Canada I'd say that You sucking Montty's cock is just about rounding it all off nicely Twinkerbel.
@TimeLord361 on what comment is this suppose to be on ..please..and if ur referring to christianty...no..ive been awake for 25 yrs..when i first started to wake up..i started on religion and secret societies..I got my main info from book's..historians..and ROME , metro library's around this great nation..we didn't have the net back then!!
Man,this is one I think your way off on. Look into it,these people are scum,and have taken thousands of children for less than this reason. They can ,and have,declared children in "imminent danger" for almost any reason whatsoever. Once they take a child,the parents have to prove themselves fit. This can take years,in which time the parents may receive supervised visits.This organization also receives financial benefits for these kidnappings,with very little oversight.DCYF=scum,
Its very easy to your kids taken away. Its happend to my family twice based of just what someone had said. After they investigated our family they let my sister comeback. The child protective services is overly protective, not that im disagreeing with what youre saying but Ive seen it with my own eyes.
very few children are taken from their parents...even when the situation is bad...i worked for dcs in tennessee for a year...and never did a removal of a infant...had to remove teenagers for committing crimes, rape, roberies, ect....Babies are seldomly removed unless they are "failing to thrive", shaken, limbs broken...physical abuse or neglect....they are not typically removed because mom and dad are pot heads..maybe if mom and dad are dealers...but simple use is rarely "cause"
George4title is now asking for donations to "give to them" of course. LOL Thats the funniest thing Ive seen. "trustworthy" george4title acting as a trust fund for donations.
@skyding8962 LOL...shit why cant i scam anyone out of their cash..
.IF any one reading this sent G4T money please let me be the first one to offer you an opportunity to give to the Bolivian Home for Unwanted Bastards. You may not have heard of the BHUB it is located right next door to the Home of Dumb Bastards located in a quiet suburb of Utah. I assure you these poor bastards can use your money...Please make all checks payable to "Cash".
Just set up a paypal donation fund for your divorce proceedings. Or ask for donations for a studio production level of your next inflationbs parody. LOL
@skyding8962 maybe i should do a vidya about my neighbor who had his chickens taken away from him just because he was trying to crossbreed his hen with a hog so the eggs would taste like bacon.....heck they acted like he was the one screwing the chicken!
LOL Even better say your neighbor is this guy who does youtube videos with a buzz cut and thinning hair and was wearing a sweater shot your chickens in cold blood with a gun because they dug under your fence and therefore said he had a right to kill them. I think you know who Im talking about. :)
I know we don't have all the facts, Montagraph, but these agencies do indeed partake in irresponsible actions all the time. Yet, no hell to pay so far... I have heard many a report on children being taken from their parents because their parents refuse to vaccinate or shove psych meds down the kids throats, or because the parents (in the case of Abraham Cherix) questioned their son's cancer diagnosis and recommended treatment. And this happens, whilst children in truly ...
@pantheongaia Yes the CPS calls all that 'neglect' if you dont get your kid vaccinated, or refuse the mind altering drugs they 'prescribe' and is their primary tool used to seize peoples kids.
The CPS report is up, it lists the primary reason for this child being taken as info that the guy owns a firearm and affiliation with a militia, the Oathkeepers. I dont see what information has been omitted.
@davids11131113 Please go to PrisonPlanet and read the Entire Document for yourself 1-7. You will clearly see that they DID NOT take that child based soley on his affiliation!!!
@Montagraph I saw that there was a history of DCYF involvement (neglect...), however, wouldn't that alone be enough for those fraudsters to act? It seems to be all that's needed in other circumstances. So why the need to add that the father is also affiliated with so and so and has firearms? That's the part that makes no sense to me. (I'm confused :P)
@pantheongaia You do make a good point there! However, the intire Iterwebs was let to believe that the child was taken because :He Was An Oath Keeper. He is not an Oath Keeper according to the PrisonPlanet article. He has had association with them. So again, there was gross misrepresentation IMO!
@Montagraph to comment on the video for a change monty, I do believe that many agencies local state and federal make damaging errors that that extensive time and manpower to narrow down and resolve this (example my co worker and the bank taking out too much money and accusing her of overdrawing most of her paychecks go to paying all of that off so she can avoid jailtime) there needs to be more effective means of investigation of wrongful accusation and award damage reperation
@pantheongaia Yep, and its real easy for them to assign 'neglect', that now includes things like the parents reading the Constitution or Bible, or refusing to give your kid brain melting Ritalin. So the 'neglect' thing is BS, and as 'patriot truthers' we should really be able to see whats actually going on in these stories without months of time going by. That will get us all killed.
@Montagraph Oh, a prior hearing over a neglect charge which has been settled? Thats the #1 CPS trick. Thats the reason to take, under false pretenses to seize their newborn kid?
@davids11131113 Again when the initial video came out, we-meaning all on the net-knew NOTHING! Meanwhile, a lot of people are going Bat Shit on a 1 sided story! People talk of truth, well there is 2 sides to every story!
There is alot more to this story. first of all they aren't married so what he does shouldn't affect whether she still keeps custody of the child. the only other reason for the powers that be to take the child would be if the mother had a drug history and they found drugs in the baby's blood when they did a test.
What were the other reasons? Ive heard this guys story a couple different places, I dont see what there is to doubt. So it was done to monitor the reaction on the interwebz? Fuk em, if theyre doing that then THAT is the story too! If youre not speaking freely, then youre just not free.
I was taken by those nuts when I was a kid. They actually took me and my sisters over something another kid said. Took my parents almost two months to get us back They had to prove the state wrong. Its sucks that things like that can happen
here in California cps acts as if they hold all of your life in contempt as if you are a criminal ! the scank mother was cheating on a co-worker she left him and moved in with her Sancho now hes turnning some other ho and she is now saying he is a drunk = 1 year of drug counseling and AA meeting he dont even drink but he has to do it to see his kids now she says he hits them all? so = anger management counseling for 6 months he has never hit anybody she only has to accuse and it true
MONTY...IT'S TRUE DUDE...CALLED NEW HAMPSIRE..THEY TRIED TO BLOW ME OFF MANY TIMES..THE AFFIDAVIT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW...IT SAYS IT ALL!! ILL BE POSTING A VIDEO ON THIS IN A WHILE..PEACE BRO
Not only are these accusations being made against Child Protective Agency but also against Concord Hospital, which has been around for over a 100 yrs. There is more to this story, therefore, it warrants no conspiracy theories until we know the facts.
It happened here in NH It did happen....There was a statement of claiming that the Oath Keepers was a Militia....Beg to differ....we are quite the opposite. There was a laundry list of charges..but that does not excuse what they said about we being a militia and association with one was bad......Wrong.
@tainorebelde1 I am aware that CPS does NOT have a good reputation, I know that! But I too, believe that the whole store and or parts of it were Omitted!
@tainorebelde1 That's right! Meaning that I am sure that it has happened in the past, but ib this case - this case- i,probable. Now we know a lot more of what's going on! The FACT is, they DID NOT take the child SOLEY based on the affiliation!
I think youre right monte had be to drugs .The state here test every baby as soon as its born.If the baby or mother test positive then cps takes the baby.Thats the only thing that makes sense.Maybe the father was in the dark about mom's drug use,and is struggling to figure out how to get support for himself.It just sounds fishy
@Montagraph WELL I HOPE IT'S ONE OF THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES.WOULD HATE TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN TAKE YOUR KIDS FOR BEING A MEMBER OF SOME GROUP.IF THAT'S THE CASE WERE ALL SCREWED,BLUED,AND TATTOOD
No, this action was not done SOLELY on the grounds of the affiliation. But the fact that an affiliation was even mentioned sets a precedent for what's next in their attempts to stifle dissent against the government.
unless i hear confermation of multible scenarios like this one taking place as in a sweep situation , then i will give it validity , one isolated case ? mmmm no . sorry thats just how i feel . and for him to make a statement like that , fine post the warrant for all to see with all pages included , in a vid format.
@Katfellow Legalie-zzed child kidnapping. I know their are instances where kids need to be removed from the home. But a newborn a newborn, How has she had time to abuse or neglect. Not to mention in the video he says his fiance. How is she affiliated with a group her fiance is tied too. Not even outta the hospital yet. C'mon
As much as it hurts, Monty-I have to disagree with you this time. Since their not married, what does she have to do with what group he is linked to? Not to mention now is the most critical time for a newborn to be with it's mother. I believe they coulda placed an in home nurse easier than taking the child at such a tender age. This is whats wrong with our govnmt today-doing what they want without question. Actions like these require explanation. Peace
sorry monty i cant go along with you this time. about 7 years ago a woman turn me and my wife in to told the the woman that we were wipping our kids not feeding and not treating our kids rightbutt the kicker was the woman that turn us in was having partyies smoking dope doing every drug under the sun. now here i am working 60 to 70 hours a week busting my ass trying to make ends meet and tock her word over mine thay were going to take our kids away
I really appreciate that some of the truthers actually still try to get to the actual truth not just what ever "truth" that makes there narrative sound better.
I aggree and I have witnessed the drug thing almost personally. One of my sons friends girl had her baby taken due to a bad drug screen at time of delivery. That's here in Nevada . I personally don't agree with this policy I feel it is illegal search and seizureand they do it to all delivering mothers regardless of probable cause. It's just plain wrong!
But still, On the premis of being an Oathkeeper only? I'm an Oathkeeper and I still have my kids...I dunno.
Start to belive it, when they have made up their mind they stick to it thick´n thin.
The child dept in Sweden are more powerful than the Gov, they have even forced a politican out of the court room for wanting to listen... If the agency makes up their mind, they stick to it. No matter the cost, but agencies does not want to be proven wrong.
Ive seen this happen and it keeps happen.
Cant talk about this case though, but there is much unjustice done in many cases.
there are several things that come to mind as I thought about this last night. One is that the babys parents may not have given consent to vaccinations, and the other is that maby the infant needed some specialized medical treatment. Both of these things must be honored if the parents refused. But I think that the state is WAY too intrusive in everything. The only thing that might justify the abduction is imminant danger. But where was imminant danger in TX with the mormons children?
Right....OF COURSE there's "another reason." The problem is that that "other reason" is many times a cooked-up one.... Just like when I was accused of being AN ANTI-MUSLIM TERRORIST. The Feds got a warrant for "suspicion of being an illegal arms dealer." (Do you want me to show you the paperwork?) And it was SOLELY BASED on the "testimony" of a church goer that wanted to harm both me and my church...
And while EVERYYONE assumed I was guilty....eventually the judge threw the "case" out.
"When they came for the Jews, I did nothing, for I am not a Jew. When they came for the Socialists, I did nothing, for I am not a Socialist. When they came for the labor leaders, the homosexuals, the gypsies, I did nothing, for I am none of these, and when they came for me, I was alone, there was no one to stand up for me." -- Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran pastor from Nazi Germany
@Montagraph --- Monty....YES IT DOES....and I too am a "Lutheran Pastor." I believe that you made a mistake here- after reading the affidavit, I am convinced that there is NO GROUNDS for taking these people's baby...
Im starting to wonder of the "Monty" I believed in...is "The Truth."
@tainorebelde1 Really? This is a quote from PrisonPlanet on their website refering to the case "The parents were not even full members of the Oath Keepers organization, they were merely on a discussion list related to the group." Did you read that ok? Yeah, facts are everything!
@Montagraph ---ABSOLUTELY "facts are everything!" YES- I "knew that" and I also read the rest of the AFFIDAVIT.
The problem here is not your "suspicion" that there are facts "missing." The problem here is when you say that a GOVERNMENT AGENCY WOULD NOT DO THAT! Actually Monty- THEY WOULD!
@Montagraph ok...they can for someone elses kids and i did nothing...then they came for mine...do you like that better...get a clue! ...cps is and has been out of control...this couples affiliation with the oathkeepers should never have been mentioned in the papers!
@SimplyIncredulous go to the mirror i did on this ...it is the last link ...or go to the vid monty lists in the more info section... it has been updated too...
While I can see protective services being that way, we already have seen George4Title asking for donations on the internet. Is he requesting contributions for his defense fund?
Yea Oath Crappers is a semi collapsed organization anyway. Many of the top miltiary vet's left saying they where too restrictive on free speech. There membership only goes up when they get press like this. Oath Crappers broke the 2nd and 1st amendment that they claim is the top thing to defend. They pull out of open carry march AFTER backing it then they said do not wear OK t-shirts to rally. For one that violates the 1st amd. And they weaken the 2nd amd by injectig doubt about open carry rights
It is easy to put out fear if you give just one side. As you have always said there are 2 sides to every story. People are just too quick to assume a view to prove there beliefs.
@TheTraitorTV I bet you 50 internet dollars there are other allegations besides being a member of Oath Keepers. If Oath Keepers was even mentioned in the allegations (which wouldn't surprise me) its being done simply to establish the "character" of the parents. The State has no chance in hell of removing a child based on your affiliation with a group alone. KKK members have kids and thats NOT a good enough reason to take a child into protective custody. Another 50 internet dollars says drugs.
I agree, my guess is that the mother is underage,without a parent w/her. otherwise they would have released the baby to the mother. Sadly the father has no rights until a court order is in place.
Monty, Id like to have all the facts too but, I KNOW cps is corrupt and will make a mountain out of a molehill. My water froze last winter and I had just paid all my bills. My mother in law (whiskey chugger) called cps. They pulled in as I was priming the pump and laughed at me and said u cant fix that! They were very rude and finally I got mad and told them if there r no criminal chrges then get the hell out of here and come back with the cops prepeare to be sued. They came back 5 times..unreal
I hope that welfare bans soda from being bought with those funds.....if your well to do enough to slurp down sodas instead of buying food then you don't need the welfare!!
Well said, brother. The "Independent Journalist" asked no clarifying questions, and clarification was CERTAINLY not offered without prompting.
Everything in that video screamed of a scam to me. My first question would be this:
Why were you in such a hurry to leave the hospital? You wife just gave birth, and you want to leave before the doctor can even look at the baby? Then security shows up to take the baby to the doctor?
Of course not having the facts is apparent but I must say Monty these "agencies" have been involved in dubious activities. Do not discount those possibilities. There are situations where these "agencies of the state " have been involved with less than " the concerned welfare of the children." History shows many such occurences as well as situations where the "protection services " should of stepped in ...and did not. Remember -state run means huge errors.
We must wait for further info and the rest of the story. But the one thing I dont get is the labeling of OathKeepers as a militia. It is not. Thats like labeling a rent a cop as a navy seal.
well said. a calm voice during a storm. before i make any statement or decision on how i feal i want to see an affidavid on the reason not just some guys story. hell this could be a set up to get a reaction. i don't believe anything unless i see it. good vid
It sounds like you are not "awake". If you are still of the mindset that there "would be hell to pay", you sound like these old people I talk to about the government and fed. They always say "they couldn't get away with that". I haven't seen the G4T vid yet and you may be right. Maybe not. But you need to search some of these cps cases and you'll be amazed at what you find. One thing I've learned is to keep an open mind.
I saw the vid in question last night, and read through alot of the comments. You're right Monty....we need more info. Of course, it could have been that the father was a basket case after they took the baby, and wasn't able to provide more info. Hopefully, we will find out the truth...before somebody jumps the gun and starts real trouble.
It's nothing more than continued sensationalism (scamming) by Georgie boy. You can expect to see follow up vids on this for financial help to battle the (imaginary) foes.
your right about NOT running with a story no matter how horrible it sounds you should look into the facts first b4 you go apeshit but you got to also keep in mind that a lot of mothers who are drug adicts are scared shitless these days of having their baby in a hospital for the very reason you mentioned. g4t seems to be a little bit of a sensationalist but that is not to say that there isn't some truth to this story.
We probably don't have all the facts - missing data; people will leave out information from a story sometimes to encourage people to feel a certain way or another way about something than if the people had all the facts (the truth).
@micromilesaway I am talking about this Story! I know they have in the past! I know that! It is this story, that does not smell right! Please read what "Robert697" a few comments up, just posted!
They asked all kinds of questions when Mouse went to have her child.......They asked her twice if she wanted to kill it via abortion, and of course she said no.
They then tried to suggest we wouldn't feed the child or care for it, and again we said no. I became rather upset at that point.
It was only after that they agreed to birth the baby. Then after it was born, more questions, some of them repeated over & over in different ways to try to entrap us.
CPS has a long history of taking children.......Do a quick Google Search on it. Having said that, this is the first time I've heard of taking a child for the group you're affiliated with. That is probably unconstitutional on its face!
@USoSilly2Me Excuse me, I do not think that 9/11 truthers are fear mongerers! I believe they simple ask a lot of very important questions that scare the establishment!
@Montagraph Excuse me but a hell of a lot of so called truthers ARE fear mongers. Alex Jones comes to mind.
George is guilty of the same tactics when he uses "simulated" photos and bogus or misleading info in his videos. So dont go jumping on people when they make a very fair point about people using scare tactics. : )
@DrDissent A generalization labeling all "insert label here" as ANYTHING is not a fair point. That's equivalent to saying all republicans want war and all democrats want a nanny state. It is not a fair point any way you try to spin it...blanket statement.
@DrDissent I did newb. You. Your "excuse me" post was directed at Monty, whereas his post was directed at the guy who called truthers fear mongerors. Sheesh.
@smttysmth02gt And youre pointless post was directed at me. Frankly I dont give a bleep what you think. My point is valid and still stands. Some troofers (dare I say most) are fear mongers.
@Montagraph Conspiracy theorists say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn't hit by airliners and only had a few fires. They also claim that there was a confession from the building owner who said he "pulled" it.
@Montagraph But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7.
@USoSilly2Me apparently you "don't" know what a fear monger because what 9/11 truthers are, is far from being fear mongers. I suggest you re-think your stance on this. There is a difference between those newyorkers who call for the truth on 9/11 rather than those who spout it was an inside job, some are quoted as saying so but not everyone of them. *sigh*
@USoSilly2Me based upon all the facts, news articles and documents and ignoring alex jones' over emotional spin, still calling it fearmongering is willfully ignorant do you not speculate that the government couldn't be perfect and it has been revealed and caught red handed doing a variety of illicit, illegal and questionable things, there is truth in the documents that are linked to by alex, a lot of things point to manipulation conspiracy theories is a term to discredit things worth pondering
I saw this video when you first put it up. You were right about this, turned out to be a non-story. Thanks M.
hotheadedjoelhaha 1 year ago
HASNT ANY ONE REALIZED YET THAT THIS PERSON ISNT HUMAN LOOK AT THE EYES FRAME BY FRAME .. SIR IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT GO ON CAMERA N E MORE AS YOUR SHAPESHIFTING EYES/TEETH ARE QUITE OBVIOUS .. NICE TRY THO YOU CAN FOOL YOUR VIEWERS BUT YOU CANT FOOL ME.. LOVE AND LIGHT HIDDEN ONE
pnd51010 1 year ago
stealing kids is good business or did you not know that?
once they get in your life they will not stop till they get your kids!
knews flash thousends of parents lose there kids that never get convicted of any crime or doing any thing wrong but they never get there kid's back.
it's simple it's your word against theres parents are treated like crimenals and are demonized in court!
but let's put it simpler then that, bench means bank!
haylspa 1 year ago
its 100% simple but americans wont agree cause they live there, America is fucked up. the whole world would agree except for the cowboys/aka rednecks/aka ignorant pests
MrDouchebag89 1 year ago
DrDissent put out a good video on this subject today: watch?v=xyaQ7Sy8SHY
IndependentStorm 1 year ago
Johnathon Irish, Stephanie Taylor and Cheyenne (baby) are reunited and they stated that they are now under a gag order. My question to George4Title is: What are you gonna do with the money you collected for the case of these parents... Is that money gone now?
Schrekster1 1 year ago
George4Title removed two videos from his channel, the one where in he states that there he set up a PayPal account for the family and the one in wich the ex-husband of Stephanie Taylor tells some very incriminating claims towards her and Johnathan Irish.
Look at his channel.
Schrekster1 1 year ago
This story is starting to really piss me off. It's heartbraking that any infant be ripped from a mother's arm and the affidavit alludes to other allegations and accusations as though there was a history of the mother's children put in jeopardy and John Irish having to attend some kind "Ending Violence" counseling.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
@spiralcosmosart Now, I just heard the baby was sexually assaulted! I can't even express how sick this makes me. And that some people still think cps would have hell to pay for taking a baby for no reason. I mean, really! I wish some of these idiots would just wake up! I'm just as pissed as you are, I think.
thalonelygirl 1 year ago
@thalonelygirl How is anyone suppose to take this story seriously when Stewart Rhodes the OathKeepers spokesperson blacks out half the affidavit? If you have stories of some kind of abuse happening please confirm your sources and publish them if you believe them to be true.
spiralcosmosart 1 year ago
I don't trust anyone who asks for money.
mikwid 1 year ago
Anything they had on the husband or wife would appear in the affidavit. I believe the affidavit is available online to read in great portion.
Read the affidavit and judge for yourself I guess. But I agree, time will tell.
NAUresistance 1 year ago
My first thought was that the baby, could have tested positive for drugs.... But.... George never said....
kindacoiny 1 year ago
I believe there has to be alot more to it than his low level involvement in The Oath keepers.Especially during an election year.
Chang13A 1 year ago
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Even the Oath Keepers have stated, "We have confirmed that the affidavit in support of the order to take the child from her parents states... a long list of other assertions against both parents". There MUST be something else that we are not hearing.
479Lucy 1 year ago
If you make the rules you can change them at will. If you own the the "truth" You can make it what ever you want it to be as well...States have made no bones about it they own your kids .
dmhappy2777 1 year ago
agree monty, ive just seen a couple of videos on this, there HAS to be more to this story...i am curious as to why her other 2 children were taken previously...?
cv1122 1 year ago
Monty in his update video now George is asking for donations to HIS paypal account on behalf of this couple. Sounds like an elaborate scam orchestrated by George and this couple. Might want to look into it.
skyding8962 1 year ago
@skyding8962 Yeah, I saw that - smells like shit to me, just my opinion!!!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph
I don't know if you ever seen that video, but there was a couple panhandler girls that george was showing in his video. He then asked for donations to his paypal account on their behalf. LOL Like he was somehow going to find random panhandlers again and give them money. Of course he deleted the video the next day. Hes done this many times before using a fake background story, thats why I think its a scam hes setting up.
skyding8962 1 year ago
@Montagraph
Hes getting some flak in his comments about this donation fund. Most people are saying the story is a fraud now. You might have to make a followup video on this drama.
skyding8962 1 year ago
@skyding8962
Maybe there was no truce after all...
GypsyHustled 1 year ago
what is the truth well thats easy guys, Montagraph is cause he kicks ass
jordankkk2000 1 year ago
@jordankkk2000 Comming from a racist POS with a Skinhead vid Favorited that can't Spell for shit and to top it off is SUBBED to Davidsfarm AKA Pedo Palace of Canada I'd say that You sucking Montty's cock is just about rounding it all off nicely Twinkerbel.
Chang13A 1 year ago
Slaves love being biched slaped. CPS is going to get extra funding for this, he he lol
mmm9mmm9 1 year ago
good video....i agree
zmc33 1 year ago
@TimeLord361 on what comment is this suppose to be on ..please..and if ur referring to christianty...no..ive been awake for 25 yrs..when i first started to wake up..i started on religion and secret societies..I got my main info from book's..historians..and ROME , metro library's around this great nation..we didn't have the net back then!!
doc
DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
Man,this is one I think your way off on. Look into it,these people are scum,and have taken thousands of children for less than this reason. They can ,and have,declared children in "imminent danger" for almost any reason whatsoever. Once they take a child,the parents have to prove themselves fit. This can take years,in which time the parents may receive supervised visits.This organization also receives financial benefits for these kidnappings,with very little oversight.DCYF=scum,
siftedby666 1 year ago
@siftedby666 your wasting your valuable time with USoSilly2Me...he is a troll , and someone from the other side!! we think hes mossad or NSA..
DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
Its very easy to your kids taken away. Its happend to my family twice based of just what someone had said. After they investigated our family they let my sister comeback. The child protective services is overly protective, not that im disagreeing with what youre saying but Ive seen it with my own eyes.
1ceECo1d 1 year ago
CPS is run by pedophiles dude! It's criminal through to the core.
watch?v=_TcDTJlPWbE&feature=player_embedded
RefutingSkellyism 1 year ago
I love the word "interwebs".
its funderful
PrepSurvivor 1 year ago
granted i think G4T is a scammer, domestic relations does some fucked up shit.
wiandiii 1 year ago
Word.
kevkro64 1 year ago
@jamietruman And where do NOT having a birth certificate, get you in life? Get a Grip.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
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@USoSilly2Me ohhhhhhhhhhhh..no facts to support 9/11 was an inside job...are you fucking kidding me!!! ok..here we go...round 1
DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
you don't believe the story but yet you have NWO theorys ?
gijoegotogo 1 year ago
very few children are taken from their parents...even when the situation is bad...i worked for dcs in tennessee for a year...and never did a removal of a infant...had to remove teenagers for committing crimes, rape, roberies, ect....Babies are seldomly removed unless they are "failing to thrive", shaken, limbs broken...physical abuse or neglect....they are not typically removed because mom and dad are pot heads..maybe if mom and dad are dealers...but simple use is rarely "cause"
centervilletn 1 year ago
I disagree with you about a lot of things, but you are right on the money here
ddss6 1 year ago
I know the first thing id do if it happened to me is call G4T..think about it ...folks
centervilletn 1 year ago 2
@centervilletn
George4title is now asking for donations to "give to them" of course. LOL Thats the funniest thing Ive seen. "trustworthy" george4title acting as a trust fund for donations.
skyding8962 1 year ago
@skyding8962 LOL...shit why cant i scam anyone out of their cash..
.IF any one reading this sent G4T money please let me be the first one to offer you an opportunity to give to the Bolivian Home for Unwanted Bastards. You may not have heard of the BHUB it is located right next door to the Home of Dumb Bastards located in a quiet suburb of Utah. I assure you these poor bastards can use your money...Please make all checks payable to "Cash".
centervilletn 1 year ago
@centervilletn
Just set up a paypal donation fund for your divorce proceedings. Or ask for donations for a studio production level of your next inflationbs parody. LOL
skyding8962 1 year ago
@skyding8962 maybe i should do a vidya about my neighbor who had his chickens taken away from him just because he was trying to crossbreed his hen with a hog so the eggs would taste like bacon.....heck they acted like he was the one screwing the chicken!
centervilletn 1 year ago
@centervilletn
LOL Even better say your neighbor is this guy who does youtube videos with a buzz cut and thinning hair and was wearing a sweater shot your chickens in cold blood with a gun because they dug under your fence and therefore said he had a right to kill them. I think you know who Im talking about. :)
skyding8962 1 year ago
This is an unusually well thought out and level headed response from you monty!
fitz06 1 year ago
Theres no evidence of 'drug use' at all where did you get that from?
davids11131113 1 year ago
@davids11131113 I didn't say that there was!
Montagraph 1 year ago
cont. dire need of intervention are left in the abusive homes. These agencies have very poor track records.
pantheongaia 1 year ago
I know we don't have all the facts, Montagraph, but these agencies do indeed partake in irresponsible actions all the time. Yet, no hell to pay so far... I have heard many a report on children being taken from their parents because their parents refuse to vaccinate or shove psych meds down the kids throats, or because the parents (in the case of Abraham Cherix) questioned their son's cancer diagnosis and recommended treatment. And this happens, whilst children in truly ...
pantheongaia 1 year ago
@pantheongaia Yes the CPS calls all that 'neglect' if you dont get your kid vaccinated, or refuse the mind altering drugs they 'prescribe' and is their primary tool used to seize peoples kids.
davids11131113 1 year ago
@pantheongaia I agree with you that they do! I know that to be a fact!
Montagraph 1 year ago
The CPS report is up, it lists the primary reason for this child being taken as info that the guy owns a firearm and affiliation with a militia, the Oathkeepers. I dont see what information has been omitted.
davids11131113 1 year ago
@davids11131113 Ah, no! There are other issues listed!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph What are they?
davids11131113 1 year ago
@davids11131113 Please go to PrisonPlanet and read the Entire Document for yourself 1-7. You will clearly see that they DID NOT take that child based soley on his affiliation!!!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph I saw that there was a history of DCYF involvement (neglect...), however, wouldn't that alone be enough for those fraudsters to act? It seems to be all that's needed in other circumstances. So why the need to add that the father is also affiliated with so and so and has firearms? That's the part that makes no sense to me. (I'm confused :P)
pantheongaia 1 year ago
@pantheongaia You do make a good point there! However, the intire Iterwebs was let to believe that the child was taken because :He Was An Oath Keeper. He is not an Oath Keeper according to the PrisonPlanet article. He has had association with them. So again, there was gross misrepresentation IMO!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph to comment on the video for a change monty, I do believe that many agencies local state and federal make damaging errors that that extensive time and manpower to narrow down and resolve this (example my co worker and the bank taking out too much money and accusing her of overdrawing most of her paychecks go to paying all of that off so she can avoid jailtime) there needs to be more effective means of investigation of wrongful accusation and award damage reperation
Jaegar19Ultima 1 year ago
@pantheongaia Yep, and its real easy for them to assign 'neglect', that now includes things like the parents reading the Constitution or Bible, or refusing to give your kid brain melting Ritalin. So the 'neglect' thing is BS, and as 'patriot truthers' we should really be able to see whats actually going on in these stories without months of time going by. That will get us all killed.
davids11131113 1 year ago
@Montagraph Oh, a prior hearing over a neglect charge which has been settled? Thats the #1 CPS trick. Thats the reason to take, under false pretenses to seize their newborn kid?
davids11131113 1 year ago
@davids11131113 Again when the initial video came out, we-meaning all on the net-knew NOTHING! Meanwhile, a lot of people are going Bat Shit on a 1 sided story! People talk of truth, well there is 2 sides to every story!
Montagraph 1 year ago 2
There is alot more to this story. first of all they aren't married so what he does shouldn't affect whether she still keeps custody of the child. the only other reason for the powers that be to take the child would be if the mother had a drug history and they found drugs in the baby's blood when they did a test.
dshedder1 1 year ago
@dshedder1 P.S. This has nothing to do with oath keepers. If so every oath keeper in the country would be having visits from CPS.
dshedder1 1 year ago
@dshedder1 Nothing to do with Oathkeeper affiliation? Thats not what the CPS report says.
davids11131113 1 year ago
@davids11131113 where do i see these documents??
dshedder1 1 year ago
@dshedder1 then why did they put it in the docs?
skybirdbird 1 year ago
I dont see the 'hell to pay' part, the gooberment is doing this and far worse all the time.
davids11131113 1 year ago
What were the other reasons? Ive heard this guys story a couple different places, I dont see what there is to doubt. So it was done to monitor the reaction on the interwebz? Fuk em, if theyre doing that then THAT is the story too! If youre not speaking freely, then youre just not free.
davids11131113 1 year ago
I was taken by those nuts when I was a kid. They actually took me and my sisters over something another kid said. Took my parents almost two months to get us back They had to prove the state wrong. Its sucks that things like that can happen
thawkins426 1 year ago
its a child neglect case. with her other children.
john762x39 1 year ago
I agree Monty, something else is wrong, something else happened. To remove a child that's less that 24 hours old.... Somethings wrong....
stayingawake20 1 year ago
waterchildtera 1 year ago
MONTY...IT'S TRUE DUDE...CALLED NEW HAMPSIRE..THEY TRIED TO BLOW ME OFF MANY TIMES..THE AFFIDAVIT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW...IT SAYS IT ALL!! ILL BE POSTING A VIDEO ON THIS IN A WHILE..PEACE BRO
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DOCSAFETUBE 1 year ago
Not only are these accusations being made against Child Protective Agency but also against Concord Hospital, which has been around for over a 100 yrs. There is more to this story, therefore, it warrants no conspiracy theories until we know the facts.
MISSBEBEBLUE 1 year ago
@MISSBEBEBLUE Agree!!!
Montagraph 1 year ago
It will be interesting to find out all the facts. Maybe they didn't want to vaccinate. Or something else.
nextdimensions 1 year ago
It happened here in NH It did happen....There was a statement of claiming that the Oath Keepers was a Militia....Beg to differ....we are quite the opposite. There was a laundry list of charges..but that does not excuse what they said about we being a militia and association with one was bad......Wrong.
OlGreyWolf58 1 year ago
@OlGreyWolf58 you tell em ogw ...maybe he will listen to you...he will not listen to me...
skybirdbird 1 year ago
I am now sure that some of these people should not be reproducing, just say no
Fockersnextdoor 1 year ago
Monty....you should know that once CPS gets involved in your life....they will harass you until you move away!!
tainorebelde1 1 year ago 2
@tainorebelde1 I am aware that CPS does NOT have a good reputation, I know that! But I too, believe that the whole store and or parts of it were Omitted!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph ---Facts "might be Omitted...." BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS CAPABLE OF DOING THIS!! You say THE CONTRARY MONTY!! Dont you realize that?
Oh, "not impossible, just improbable!" Says who, YOU?
tainorebelde1 1 year ago
@tainorebelde1 That's right! Meaning that I am sure that it has happened in the past, but ib this case - this case- i,probable. Now we know a lot more of what's going on! The FACT is, they DID NOT take the child SOLEY based on the affiliation!
Montagraph 1 year ago
I am mad because they made a point to highlight that he was a member of Oath Keepers (and the fact that they mis-labeled them as a militia)
jasnyoung 1 year ago
Im shocked you did this video. :)
skyding8962 1 year ago
@skyding8962 Why? Hey man, we all spout "TRUTH! That is a 2 way street!
Montagraph 1 year ago
Nice vid monte
highheadjester 1 year ago
I think youre right monte had be to drugs .The state here test every baby as soon as its born.If the baby or mother test positive then cps takes the baby.Thats the only thing that makes sense.Maybe the father was in the dark about mom's drug use,and is struggling to figure out how to get support for himself.It just sounds fishy
everlandH8ter 1 year ago
@everlandH8ter I am not suggesting that, that was the reason simply making people aware that there can be other possibilities!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph WELL I HOPE IT'S ONE OF THE OTHER POSSIBILITIES.WOULD HATE TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN TAKE YOUR KIDS FOR BEING A MEMBER OF SOME GROUP.IF THAT'S THE CASE WERE ALL SCREWED,BLUED,AND TATTOOD
everlandH8ter 1 year ago
Well said, Monty!
dijibeat 1 year ago
Time for an update....
No, this action was not done SOLELY on the grounds of the affiliation. But the fact that an affiliation was even mentioned sets a precedent for what's next in their attempts to stifle dissent against the government.
lopinglobo 1 year ago 2
I agree , great job again =)
anything done to kids would piss off most people . I need to hear more but i sure there is more to the story then just one side to it.
czarwright 1 year ago
unless i hear confermation of multible scenarios like this one taking place as in a sweep situation , then i will give it validity , one isolated case ? mmmm no . sorry thats just how i feel . and for him to make a statement like that , fine post the warrant for all to see with all pages included , in a vid format.
CELT2012 1 year ago
I think CPS is a bunch of crooks.
Katfellow 1 year ago
@Katfellow Legalie-zzed child kidnapping. I know their are instances where kids need to be removed from the home. But a newborn a newborn, How has she had time to abuse or neglect. Not to mention in the video he says his fiance. How is she affiliated with a group her fiance is tied too. Not even outta the hospital yet. C'mon
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@JimmyCarol100
agreed
Katfellow 1 year ago
Yeah, it was kind of hard for me to swallow that story.
iwhitedove 1 year ago
As much as it hurts, Monty-I have to disagree with you this time. Since their not married, what does she have to do with what group he is linked to? Not to mention now is the most critical time for a newborn to be with it's mother. I believe they coulda placed an in home nurse easier than taking the child at such a tender age. This is whats wrong with our govnmt today-doing what they want without question. Actions like these require explanation. Peace
JimmyCarol100 1 year ago
@NewBlueSon I never heard of either
BendoverBernanke 1 year ago
sorry monty i cant go along with you this time. about 7 years ago a woman turn me and my wife in to told the the woman that we were wipping our kids not feeding and not treating our kids rightbutt the kicker was the woman that turn us in was having partyies smoking dope doing every drug under the sun. now here i am working 60 to 70 hours a week busting my ass trying to make ends meet and tock her word over mine thay were going to take our kids away
jpintam 1 year ago
defo! always 2 sides to a story
exposingalex 1 year ago
I really appreciate that some of the truthers actually still try to get to the actual truth not just what ever "truth" that makes there narrative sound better.
harryman11 1 year ago
I aggree and I have witnessed the drug thing almost personally. One of my sons friends girl had her baby taken due to a bad drug screen at time of delivery. That's here in Nevada . I personally don't agree with this policy I feel it is illegal search and seizureand they do it to all delivering mothers regardless of probable cause. It's just plain wrong!
But still, On the premis of being an Oathkeeper only? I'm an Oathkeeper and I still have my kids...I dunno.
Iwillbedurnd 1 year ago
George4title is a conman anyway I dont believe a damn word he says
drumr828 1 year ago
Why confuse the issue with facts and information? Sounds kind of unAmerican to me.
SSanf 1 year ago
Start to belive it, when they have made up their mind they stick to it thick´n thin.
The child dept in Sweden are more powerful than the Gov, they have even forced a politican out of the court room for wanting to listen... If the agency makes up their mind, they stick to it. No matter the cost, but agencies does not want to be proven wrong.
Ive seen this happen and it keeps happen.
Cant talk about this case though, but there is much unjustice done in many cases.
In peace and <3
Avatarclone 1 year ago
there are several things that come to mind as I thought about this last night. One is that the babys parents may not have given consent to vaccinations, and the other is that maby the infant needed some specialized medical treatment. Both of these things must be honored if the parents refused. But I think that the state is WAY too intrusive in everything. The only thing that might justify the abduction is imminant danger. But where was imminant danger in TX with the mormons children?
jkejr 1 year ago
CPS is evil and vile. I know this for a fact. If CPS shows up at my door to take my child, either they will die, or I will.
SmutFi 1 year ago 2
Right....OF COURSE there's "another reason." The problem is that that "other reason" is many times a cooked-up one.... Just like when I was accused of being AN ANTI-MUSLIM TERRORIST. The Feds got a warrant for "suspicion of being an illegal arms dealer." (Do you want me to show you the paperwork?) And it was SOLELY BASED on the "testimony" of a church goer that wanted to harm both me and my church...
And while EVERYYONE assumed I was guilty....eventually the judge threw the "case" out.
tainorebelde1 1 year ago
oath keepers has an update on their site now... might be worth a look ...
skybirdbird 1 year ago
@skybirdbird and remember
"When they came for the Jews, I did nothing, for I am not a Jew. When they came for the Socialists, I did nothing, for I am not a Socialist. When they came for the labor leaders, the homosexuals, the gypsies, I did nothing, for I am none of these, and when they came for me, I was alone, there was no one to stand up for me." -- Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran pastor from Nazi Germany
skybirdbird 1 year ago
@skybirdbird Sorry, this does NOT APPLY, and you know it! Get a grip!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph --- Monty....YES IT DOES....and I too am a "Lutheran Pastor." I believe that you made a mistake here- after reading the affidavit, I am convinced that there is NO GROUNDS for taking these people's baby...
Im starting to wonder of the "Monty" I believed in...is "The Truth."
tainorebelde1 1 year ago
@tainorebelde1 Really? This is a quote from PrisonPlanet on their website refering to the case "The parents were not even full members of the Oath Keepers organization, they were merely on a discussion list related to the group." Did you read that ok? Yeah, facts are everything!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@Montagraph then why were oathkeepers even mentioned in the cps papers... you are arguing the wrong side monty...
skybirdbird 1 year ago
@Montagraph ---ABSOLUTELY "facts are everything!" YES- I "knew that" and I also read the rest of the AFFIDAVIT.
The problem here is not your "suspicion" that there are facts "missing." The problem here is when you say that a GOVERNMENT AGENCY WOULD NOT DO THAT! Actually Monty- THEY WOULD!
tainorebelde1 1 year ago
@tainorebelde1 and they have!
skybirdbird 1 year ago
@Montagraph ok...they can for someone elses kids and i did nothing...then they came for mine...do you like that better...get a clue! ...cps is and has been out of control...this couples affiliation with the oathkeepers should never have been mentioned in the papers!
skybirdbird 1 year ago
@skybirdbird link, please
SimplyIncredulous 1 year ago
@SimplyIncredulous go to the mirror i did on this ...it is the last link ...or go to the vid monty lists in the more info section... it has been updated too...
skybirdbird 1 year ago
i could see this happening, They tried some similar crap on me. USE A MIDWIFE, THIS KIND OF SHIT DOESNT HAPPEN WITH A MIDWIFE.
vidarjens 1 year ago
While I can see protective services being that way, we already have seen George4Title asking for donations on the internet. Is he requesting contributions for his defense fund?
Sounds sketchy to me
anastasia81472 1 year ago
I would like more information, sounds fishy.
MaKaElectric 1 year ago
Yea Oath Crappers is a semi collapsed organization anyway. Many of the top miltiary vet's left saying they where too restrictive on free speech. There membership only goes up when they get press like this. Oath Crappers broke the 2nd and 1st amendment that they claim is the top thing to defend. They pull out of open carry march AFTER backing it then they said do not wear OK t-shirts to rally. For one that violates the 1st amd. And they weaken the 2nd amd by injectig doubt about open carry rights
vashguud 1 year ago
It is easy to put out fear if you give just one side. As you have always said there are 2 sides to every story. People are just too quick to assume a view to prove there beliefs.
marion1739 1 year ago
@TheTraitorTV I bet you 50 internet dollars there are other allegations besides being a member of Oath Keepers. If Oath Keepers was even mentioned in the allegations (which wouldn't surprise me) its being done simply to establish the "character" of the parents. The State has no chance in hell of removing a child based on your affiliation with a group alone. KKK members have kids and thats NOT a good enough reason to take a child into protective custody. Another 50 internet dollars says drugs.
DrDissent 1 year ago
There are more charges against John and his fiance that they are not disclosing.
rataMacue22 1 year ago
I agree, my guess is that the mother is underage,without a parent w/her. otherwise they would have released the baby to the mother. Sadly the father has no rights until a court order is in place.
julciti 1 year ago
@julciti She's 22
pantheongaia 1 year ago
Could it be a kind of commercial for "Oath Keepers"?
TheaterOfMemory 1 year ago
CPS is pretty lawless and in a lot of cases downright evil, but I agree we seem to be missing a lot of the facts.
DrDissent 1 year ago
Monty, Id like to have all the facts too but, I KNOW cps is corrupt and will make a mountain out of a molehill. My water froze last winter and I had just paid all my bills. My mother in law (whiskey chugger) called cps. They pulled in as I was priming the pump and laughed at me and said u cant fix that! They were very rude and finally I got mad and told them if there r no criminal chrges then get the hell out of here and come back with the cops prepeare to be sued. They came back 5 times..unreal
2boddah 1 year ago
I hope that welfare bans soda from being bought with those funds.....if your well to do enough to slurp down sodas instead of buying food then you don't need the welfare!!
drewstarr71 1 year ago
Well said, brother. The "Independent Journalist" asked no clarifying questions, and clarification was CERTAINLY not offered without prompting.
Everything in that video screamed of a scam to me. My first question would be this:
Why were you in such a hurry to leave the hospital? You wife just gave birth, and you want to leave before the doctor can even look at the baby? Then security shows up to take the baby to the doctor?
None of it adds up.
UrbanCombatSurvivor 1 year ago
Yah, --- what he said !
YOUR SIMPLY NOT FREE !!!!
i like cheese !
glasseay 1 year ago
can you teach me how to rip out my tooth ?
excaliburdd 1 year ago
Of course not having the facts is apparent but I must say Monty these "agencies" have been involved in dubious activities. Do not discount those possibilities. There are situations where these "agencies of the state " have been involved with less than " the concerned welfare of the children." History shows many such occurences as well as situations where the "protection services " should of stepped in ...and did not. Remember -state run means huge errors.
RenegadeTimes 1 year ago
We must wait for further info and the rest of the story. But the one thing I dont get is the labeling of OathKeepers as a militia. It is not. Thats like labeling a rent a cop as a navy seal.
MYAR15SaysImFree 1 year ago
@MYAR15SaysImFree Great point!!!!
Montagraph 1 year ago
well said. a calm voice during a storm. before i make any statement or decision on how i feal i want to see an affidavid on the reason not just some guys story. hell this could be a set up to get a reaction. i don't believe anything unless i see it. good vid
911feltner911 1 year ago
Ever hear of the children taken from their parents simply on the names they were given at birth?
BendoverBernanke 1 year ago
It sounds like you are not "awake". If you are still of the mindset that there "would be hell to pay", you sound like these old people I talk to about the government and fed. They always say "they couldn't get away with that". I haven't seen the G4T vid yet and you may be right. Maybe not. But you need to search some of these cps cases and you'll be amazed at what you find. One thing I've learned is to keep an open mind.
thalonelygirl 1 year ago
I saw the vid in question last night, and read through alot of the comments. You're right Monty....we need more info. Of course, it could have been that the father was a basket case after they took the baby, and wasn't able to provide more info. Hopefully, we will find out the truth...before somebody jumps the gun and starts real trouble.
sthrnynk 1 year ago
It's nothing more than continued sensationalism (scamming) by Georgie boy. You can expect to see follow up vids on this for financial help to battle the (imaginary) foes.
june201955 1 year ago
your right about NOT running with a story no matter how horrible it sounds you should look into the facts first b4 you go apeshit but you got to also keep in mind that a lot of mothers who are drug adicts are scared shitless these days of having their baby in a hospital for the very reason you mentioned. g4t seems to be a little bit of a sensationalist but that is not to say that there isn't some truth to this story.
BarbarianRebellion 1 year ago
I believe you are right sir.
2unearth 1 year ago
We probably don't have all the facts - missing data; people will leave out information from a story sometimes to encourage people to feel a certain way or another way about something than if the people had all the facts (the truth).
starlitopensky1 1 year ago
A++ for use of Logic and common sense.
mrbunnylamakins 1 year ago 2
@micromilesaway I am talking about this Story! I know they have in the past! I know that! It is this story, that does not smell right! Please read what "Robert697" a few comments up, just posted!
Montagraph 1 year ago
@micromilesaway
They asked all kinds of questions when Mouse went to have her child.......They asked her twice if she wanted to kill it via abortion, and of course she said no.
They then tried to suggest we wouldn't feed the child or care for it, and again we said no. I became rather upset at that point.
It was only after that they agreed to birth the baby. Then after it was born, more questions, some of them repeated over & over in different ways to try to entrap us.
VonHelton 1 year ago
Some people don't like the facts, Monty. They like to run with what they WANT to be Truth because it more exciting. I agree with you 100%.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
@USoSilly2Me
CPS has a long history of taking children.......Do a quick Google Search on it. Having said that, this is the first time I've heard of taking a child for the group you're affiliated with. That is probably unconstitutional on its face!
VonHelton 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@VonHelton Face it. George is a fearmonger just like the 9/11 Truther's.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
@USoSilly2Me Excuse me, I do not think that 9/11 truthers are fear mongerers! I believe they simple ask a lot of very important questions that scare the establishment!
Montagraph 1 year ago 12
@Montagraph Excuse me but a hell of a lot of so called truthers ARE fear mongers. Alex Jones comes to mind.
George is guilty of the same tactics when he uses "simulated" photos and bogus or misleading info in his videos. So dont go jumping on people when they make a very fair point about people using scare tactics. : )
DrDissent 1 year ago
@DrDissent A generalization labeling all "insert label here" as ANYTHING is not a fair point. That's equivalent to saying all republicans want war and all democrats want a nanny state. It is not a fair point any way you try to spin it...blanket statement.
smttysmth02gt 1 year ago
@smttysmth02gt But if you actually knew how to read you would notice I wrote "a hell of a lot of" I never said everyone or all.
DrDissent 1 year ago
@DrDissent And if you knew how to read, you'd see that the comment Monty was referring to was "said" comment I referenced (blanket statement).
smttysmth02gt 1 year ago
@smttysmth02gt Then post your reply to the person youre talking to.
DrDissent 1 year ago
@DrDissent I did newb. You. Your "excuse me" post was directed at Monty, whereas his post was directed at the guy who called truthers fear mongerors. Sheesh.
smttysmth02gt 1 year ago
@smttysmth02gt And youre pointless post was directed at me. Frankly I dont give a bleep what you think. My point is valid and still stands. Some troofers (dare I say most) are fear mongers.
DrDissent 1 year ago
@Montagraph Conspiracy theorists say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn't hit by airliners and only had a few fires. They also claim that there was a confession from the building owner who said he "pulled" it.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
@Montagraph But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
@USoSilly2Me apparently you "don't" know what a fear monger because what 9/11 truthers are, is far from being fear mongers. I suggest you re-think your stance on this. There is a difference between those newyorkers who call for the truth on 9/11 rather than those who spout it was an inside job, some are quoted as saying so but not everyone of them. *sigh*
Jaegar19Ultima 1 year ago
@Jaegar19Ultima Fearmonger is calling your Government Terrorist because Alex Jones says so.
USoSilly2Me 1 year ago
@USoSilly2Me based upon all the facts, news articles and documents and ignoring alex jones' over emotional spin, still calling it fearmongering is willfully ignorant do you not speculate that the government couldn't be perfect and it has been revealed and caught red handed doing a variety of illicit, illegal and questionable things, there is truth in the documents that are linked to by alex, a lot of things point to manipulation conspiracy theories is a term to discredit things worth pondering
Jaegar19Ultima 1 year ago