Tarja Turunen - The Kinslayer (live Bucharest 2009)

[Fancky100]

ce nebuna mai e si tarja asta imi place la ea. are in sange rockul :X

[hidd3n89]

fratica , ti-ai batut joc de melodie cu clipul asta 

[homer00316]

i like how they threw in a little Metallica ...and justice for all

[LithiumWT09]

Tuomas made all the old songs with Tarja in mind and for her. He has said it before. I don't think he cares if she plays them live. He doesn't seem like the kind of person that would, for lack of a better word, bitch about it. So, I don't see why fans are complaining. Plus it nice to hear the old songs in her voice once again :) I love both Nightwish and Tarja and I forever will.

[MyloveforTarja]

She enjoys singing old songs....And she has every right to sing them...If you don't like her just don't watch her videos :)) Simple!!

[tavi921]

And Justice For All riff?? 2:25 o.O

[BreathwhiteBeneath]

i love her <3 !

[gregkorli]

love it headbangin! *-*.

[jossystem]

... she has a great voice, but the band really sucks!

[krissibel]

tarjaa rulees!! annete sucks

If you don't like tarja don't watch her videos :) 

[Trueghostgirl]

I wish Tarja would just form a band instead of everything being self titled. Idk ... I like the music she sings, but for myself I feel like I can identify with music more when there's a whole "set" band that writes it together. Not sure why ... maybe it's b/c I'm in a band. I just find that I feel more connected with the music that's played when its the same group of artists continuously. I guess the interaction and chemistry in a band is more appealing too me as a fan, vs. a solo metal artist

[jhjkhkjkjhjkhkjk]

Her voice is amazing, yes, bud instrumentally.. they must have Emppu :D

[maribeetle]

it's not music from Soul... behind her must be Tuomas, Jukka, Marco and Emppu... <3 <3 <3 <3

[MrDeylen07]

I feel sorry for Tarja

She really fucked up getting kicked out of Nightwish

Don't get me wrong, I love Anette

It's just....how can you sing Nightwish songs and not constantly have flashbacks of singing for them?

[Lunar3ss]

@MrDeylen07

That's the most intelligent comment I've ever read about the Tarja / Anette topic ! 

[MrDeylen07]

@Lunar3ss it's just.....watching this video made me think "how can she introduce these songs, sing these songs and perform these songs, without the memories of Tuomas, Jukka, Emppu, Marco and Sami.

Sure, she's still onstage and loving it, but she'll never replace the feeling she must have felt while playing with Nightwish.

Anette ftw.... :3

[WeinenderGrabstein1]

ive never seen Tarja Headbanging before! =)

Its funny!^^

[AzumiNW]

i was there :X

[saragetsi]

¿quien pierde mas? la banda sin su cantante o la cantante sin su banda......estan igual.

[666somber]

kiko loureiro on guitars \m/

[laraska17]

greatttt

!!! 5 stars!!!

[Bestella30]

Ella sin NW es nada y Nw sin ella va un poco lento, Tarja marcó mucho las canciones de Nw pero las canciones son hermosas por si solas! porque Toumas es todo un poeta, ahora Tarja me parece aburrida, y sin mucho chiste, ademas el sonido de Tarja con su banda no es lo mismo en lo mas minimo, mientras que NW quiza no tenga su voz pero el poder nunca lo pierde! ademas Nw tiene a Marco que es un maestro :D pero todo esto no quiere decir que Tarja no me guste como cantante, al contrario :)

[Miriamnorum]

aqui aun hay magia!!!1 entrega pasion!!!!!! nightwish ahora para mi no son nada los encuentro aburridos muy cierto lo ke dices ke tuomas es un excelente poeta mis respetos pero nightwish perdio su encanto desde ke corrieron ah tarja para mi la mejor epoca de ellos seguira siendo la de oro cuando ella estaba ahora no son nada lo siento es mi punto de vista y espero sea respetada soy tarjista de corazon amo y respeto ah esta señorona!! tarja rocks!!!

[carlosxtinajlo]

just one thing I LOVE IT!

[janevolturi100]

oh who cares if this was nightwish song it sounds better on tarja then on that whiny brat anette so all of u get over it besides alot of people sings songs from there old bands

[smiljanicn]

Love Tarja, but this is Nightwish song, and probably only Tuomases good will not to forbid her to sing them!

[TheMistress05]

@smiljanicn Tarja singed them for 9-10 years, those are the songs that she love to sing, she have for law the right to sing them whenever she feels to.

the problem starts if she ever claims that those songs belong to her,she havent done that never and she wont do that never.

And if Tuomas havent said in public that he dont want her to sing anymore his songs, it means that she can keep singing them.

[TheCarnivorousWay]

wtf??!! I think they didn't own a copyright to play part of "...and Justice For All".

[MTLNCK52]

THE VOICE IS FANTASTIC AS ALWAYS!

[nightwishfan06]

haha i love tarja shes so nice

i spit on tuomas for firing her *spits*

:)

[Leticiaoficina]

Kiiko Loureeeeiro *--*' The best guitar of Brazil playing with Tarja *o*'

[Holy369]

MY FAV SONG EVER

<3 TARJA!!!!!!!!

[TheOldNightwish]

Adoro los cuernitos que hace con la mano en el 4:16

[zarathustra674]

Does anyone else hear the metallica in this song? At around 2:30 I swear I hear part of metallicas harvester of sorrow live. Maybe thats not the song but I know metallica when I hear it. Not bashing Tarja or anything. I was a big fan of nightwish. Some of her headbanging also comes across as a bit corny.

[homer00316]

@zarathustra674 yes its Metallica its ...and justice for all

[zarathustra674]

@homer00316 Knew it was something like that.. Harvester.. At least I was thinking of the right album. Thanks man..

[LILITH7913]

Sinceramente, esto demuestra que Tarja era la magia de Nightwish y que ella solita puede con lo que hicieron los otros 4!!! Tarja you rules!!!

[arieltheripper09]

@LILITH7913 Disculpa pero no concuerdo, la canción es obra de Tuomas Holopainen, si el no la hubiera compuesto Tarja jamás la podría tocar, decir que puede más??solo es tu opinión.

[LILITH7913]

@arieltheripper09 Pudo haber sido compuesta hasta por el mismo demonio, pero esa canción en la voz de Anette suena espantosa, o dime tu, ¿te parece que Nightwish tiene magia ahora? a mi no me parece, claro, tu debes sentir otras cosas cuando escuchas Nightwish, pero, en mi opinión, yo ya no siento lo mismo...

[arieltheripper09]

@LILITH7913 Ya sé que suena mejor en la voz de Tarja, por qué no leen bien?respondí que el compositor de esta canción fue Tuomas no si canta mejor Anette o Tarja, siempre es lo mismo!!no hay forma siempre tiene que haber enfrentamientos, que se yo de magia no sé, escucho muchas bandas y con Anette sacaron un buen disco, habrá que esperar que sigue, y si me gusta por supuesto!nadie me obliga a escuchar nada.

[TheMistress05]

@arieltheripper09 nadie a dicho que no a sido escrita por el, PERO.

hay una gran falla que hace que el Nightwish nuevo, de ahora, con Annette, suene completamente diferente...

Las canciones viejas fueron hechas para que la voz de Tarja pudiera cantarlas.

Con Annette, tuvieron que bajar 2 o 3 tonos e incluso cambiar el ritmo y la velocidad de algunas, eso fue un cambi total en esas canciones.

Por lo que NW ya no es el mismo magico, mistico, misterioso y epico que nosotros conocimos.

[arieltheripper09]

@TheMistress05 La falla es que suene diferente??dejen que Nightwish exista por favor!hay muchas bandas no hay nada de malo con que existan y tengan otra cantante, si no les gusta no tienen por qué tirarles mierda. Ejemplo... soy fan de maiden y me parece que el último disco es una porquería, y por eso digo que son basura??nada que ver sigo escuchando lo que más me gusta de ellos y punto.

[TheMistress05]

@arieltheripper09 xP oyeme, yo no e dicho que es una porqueria, no pongas en mi boca palabras que no e dicho.

para la mayoria de los que les gustaba NW con Tarja, pueden dar su opinion, igual si les gusta o no les gusta. En lo personal no me gustan las canciones con Anette ahora, pero no e dicho que es una bruja y que no sabe cantar xD.

solo e dicho que no me gusta, punto. Sigo escuchando NW pero las canciones viejas, y no e muerto.

[TheMistress05]

@arieltheripper09 E expresado mi opinion sin insultar ni degradar nada, decir que hay una falla al sonar diferente, no es un insulto, ni mucho menos, Anette suena genial en las nuevas canciones como Bye bye Beautiful etc etc etc.

Pero para los que seguimos a NW desde sus inicios con Tarja, escuchar a Anette cantando las viejas canciones es algo triste, repito, para los que crecimos escuchandolas con Tarja y seguimos amando escucharlas cantadas por ella.

[TheMistress05]

@arieltheripper09 pero como fans, se puede opinar, ya sea el punto de vista malo o el punto de vista bueno.

y vuelvo a pedir atentamente : No pongas palabras que no e dicho en mi boca, no e dicho que son basura ni les e tirado mierda encima, ni e degradado a Anette en ningun sentido.

[arieltheripper09]

@TheMistress05 Dijiste que hay una gran fallaaaa!cual falla??QUE SUENA DIFERENTE, esa sería la falla, pasa que no te gusta y punto, yo tampoco me considero gran fan de Nightwish, estaba escuchando en paz hasta que ví un tonto decir que Tarja es la dueña de esta canción, no es por generalizar pero acá más del 90% de los que comentan le tira mierda a Nightwish, cuando gracias a ellos hoy en día existen éstas canciones.

[TheMistress05]

@arieltheripper09 eh si, pero yo no dije que NW era una gran falla....

lee bien lo que dije, y el sentido en que lo escribi por favor.

hay una falla en la musica...por que ya no suenan tan epicamente como antes, ahora en cierto modo son predecibles, ya no tienen el mismo misticismo y magia que tenian antes.

ahora tienen otro estilo.

[arieltheripper09]

@TheMistress05 Para vos hay una falla, para mí te soy sincero, suenan iguaaal!la guitarra de Empu igual o más pesada que antes, Marco brutal, Jukka deja todo, las orquestaciones del último disco muy buenas también. Pasa que el rango de la voz de Tarja le daba mucho más dramatismo a las letras, esto con Anette no pasa. Saludos

[spropaganda]

Believe me, is not !

[Deathryx]

I love her headbanging lol:D

[HailTheCradle]

haha me too! She's so adorable lol

[n14joe]

@Deathryx : yeahh.. me too.. :)

[Tommyleini]

I prefer this version MORE than with Nightwish.. my english fails :<

[Tommyleini]

To be honest, i prefer this version of the song, than she sang it with Nightwish. In my opinion shes getting better! And she can do and sing how she wants to!

[athinapainter]

it feels a little wrong to me...tarja's got a great voice but she can't write music as good as tuomas , but she's writing music better than annete sings...nightwish is dead without tarja and tarja half without them :(

[GothicDivine]

shes learning to write music on her own,tuomas has about 10 years + expierience ,so its hard to compare them^^

lets see what what lies beneath brings us :D

(the hand down was not by me :))

[athinapainter]

yes that's true but it's still the same...but anyway , i just prefer tuomas's songs sung by tarja.but i also like and her own songs.(like calling grace , minor heaven , damned and divine) and...well , it's a little silly , but i think she was singing more operatic with nightwish...her songs have become a little pop (only a few of them!!!).but she will be my number one vocalist forever!

[GothicDivine]

hm well shwe sang operatic from angels fall first till wishmaster!

tuomas wanted her to sing pop in century child and once!

and mws is compared to once much more operatic,but not that operatic like oceanborn for example..^^

i think what lies beneath will be perfect! :) operatic + heavy sound!

Witch Hunt and In for a kill were great :)

[athinapainter]

i hope so..

i didn't knew that tuomas wanted her to sing pop in cenury child and once.but why?well , there are a million bands with a good enough singer who sings pop or rocky , but nightwish were unique with tarja's voice! and as long tuomas could make it fit his music...?but ok, in lives she was always singing operatic.why pop singing when u can show many more feelings with operatic singing?so this explanes tuoma's decision for the new singer...thnx for the information :)

[Fucklesticks]

@athinapainter Half dead? My ass!... She's better than ever, she's really enjoying herself, it looks to me like the guys from NW didn't give her the treatment she deserverd all those years. Though i agree Nightwish is dead, they knew very well that sacking her was pretty much like shooting themselves in the head.

[athinapainter]

well when i said half i didn't meant half dead, my english aren't very good , i'm sorry.yes , i agree , but her songs aren't as good as nightwish's.anyway that's only my opinion and i'm not an expert in music so forgive me if i'm wrong

[Fucklesticks]

@athinapainter Fair enough. Still MWS was her first solo metal album, there's a lot of room for improvement.

[athinapainter]

yes , i'm pretty sure she will become better. everybody would make mistakes i her place :) anyway , she still is amazing

[nunavutkid13]

@athinapainter You do realize what Anette sings, is lyrics made by Toumas FOR Tarja right?

Dark Passion Play was written For Tarja, but she obviously quit. As soon as Tarja quit,

Anette quickly joined the band and sung the songs quite well.

[UnderclassHero1027]

@nunavutkid13 Dark Passion Play was released in 07. Tarja left in 05. Explain?

[nunavutkid13]

@UnderclassHero1027 Well, Tuomas originally wrote the lyrics for Dark Passion Play

while Tarja was in the band. Just right before she quit. The plan was for Tarja to sing

DPP but as you know, she was dismissed. But im glad she did leave, because

it would have sounded hella weird for Tarja to sing The Islander...

[ValuriDeNisip]

@nunavutkid13 ur glad she left just because of that single reason?

[nunavutkid13]

@ValuriDeNisip Lol oh no. I like her!! It's just that I like Anette better.

[ValuriDeNisip]

@nunavutkid13 tuomas wrote those lyrics for himself & his band. not for her.

[Streberov]

it does feel wrong indeed,but oh well,it is better than no one singing that ever again

[sushman]

legally tarja can sing any nightwish song she wants.

[UndyingHunter1]

@sushman which i think is awesome

[RufftyViteazu]

@sushman LOL legally? You can cover any fucking song you want any time.

[mbikarski]

@RufftyViteazu Tuomas allowed Tarja to sing them. So yes it is legally :)

[RufftyViteazu]

@mbikarski Are you using some mushrooms? I can cover anything anywhere at any of my concerts anytime without asking anyone. You knew that right?

[agominator]

jeje That new part at the middle of the song really rocks

[Streberov]

not likely disrespectful,they kicked her,Annete cannot sing her songs,it would be stupid indeed that nobody ever sings these beautiful songs again.

[tarjavibs]

I second that.

[BeJazzledNotDazzled]

I love Tarja and everything but it's just sort of disrespectful for her to sing this outside of Nightwish.

[agominator]

why?? when she got out of Nightwish they must have given rights of some songs, so it´s not disrespectful from her. dont know if she once composed something for Nightwish, but she is an ex-member and she must have rights of some songs. also, noone is able to sing old Nightwish songs like her, because those songs were composed specially for her voice

[BeJazzledNotDazzled]

I know, but it just feels wrong without the rest of the guys there.

[agominator]

well. that´s a good point

[jean36554519]

Tdo q a Deusa faz eh perfeito...

como eu queria q o Toumas vice issu!!!

tadinho, ele ia fik incrivelmente arrependido xD /euri

[luciansimionov]

I was there and all I can say is that our dear Tarja is amazing. pure and simple AMAZING. I will never forget this show. Even with all the problems I had with that stupid shit from BGS. Tarja please do not forget that Romania loves you. please come back soon!!!

[mmmsamhan]

Tarja is still the same! her voice is perfect and none can take the place of tarja whoz voice is unique. in dz case, if the music and the video quality is upto a good standard, im 100% sure that everyone wud enjoy it without any complaint against tarja all the best tarja! (from Sri Lanka)

[bignade00]

this is suck's .

[ArgentineDude]

Your spelling is "suck's"

[bignade00]

you suck !!!!

[ArgentineDude]

@bignade00 I'm just stating the facts, buddy.

[bignade00]

@ArgentineDude u don't know nothing about facts so keep it to ur self ,dude

[ArgentineDude]

@bignade00 You still reply with nothing important to say, cut it.

[bignade00]

@ArgentineDude u cut it cus u don't know what u talking about .

[ArgentineDude]

@bignade00 Well do you?

[bignade00]

@ArgentineDude yes i do know what i'm talking about .

[ArgentineDude]

@bignade00 I've yet to see that

[pekpek3000]

@ArgentineDude stOp acting cool...coz u cant even reach what tarja's level.,ure just a loser tryin to critisize the best of others..

[pekpek3000]

@bignade00 try to learn proper english before you comment ok?

[bignade00]

@pekpek3000 oh ya and who the hell are u to tell me that little boy ??

[pekpek3000]

@bignade00 haha! loser

[bignade00]

@pekpek3000 u the fucken loser moran

[pekpek3000]

hAha pls learn proper english..i mean seriously...hahahahahahahaha!!

[bignade00]

@pekpek3000 hey moran do me a favor and shut ur big mouth ,i don't like to talk to little kids like you ,seriously it's for your own good .

[mariaepbj]

if you dont like it then dont watch it

[bignade00]

@mariaepbj u damn right i don't like it and i'll never watch that crap again ,i'll watch the original band for that song and that's (NIGHTWISH) with tarja .

[mariaepbj]

i do like this version but i have no problem in saying that with the others it was better

[zippo602]

tarja volve a nightwish tec quiero

[homer00316]

i love how they threw in the metallica awesome

[carlosx5]

Gracias tarja, :D

[CroZaDom]

ofc they r not the same again..they r just better now

[CroatianFirecracker]

wtf? daj se vise gubi i odi njih slusat!

ne kokodaci tu

[ArgentineDude]

Being garbage certainly isn't better

[homer00316]

nightwish hasn't been the same without her

[volvo145]

No, with a singer that screams instead of sining so...

[Soturibardi]

Yup, Tarja is awesome! I really love her! And yes, she is a very good-looking woman, and not very tall, actually shes kinda small woman, but whatta voice! Good Heavens, that girl knows how to sing!

By the way, regards from Finland for everyone! :D

[Tommyleini]

She is still awesome, WOW!

[VargAscendant]

Not ''still awesome'' but even better.

[HymnusVitae]

Is she really that thin, or is it just the lighting?

[papikito]

She's is thin.I saw her personally 2 times here in Argentina . In fact in this video she seems to be fat (the white colour make that effect).-

She's amazing...

Best Regards

[gonzal0999]

sonaron los acordes de and justice for all de metallica ._.

[RonaldoDavid]

Acho que ela não consegue mais chegar ao timbre de The Kinslayer como antigamente (antes sua voz era mais grossa, agora é mais "suave"). Mas mesmo assim ela arraza! ^^

[EscapeTheDoll]

I love this song and I was so happy when they played it in Romania! Great concert!

[Menffish]

wow!!! the songs of Tuomas are realy great!!! nice video

[PrealienA]

Great costume, greatly played.

[claudialeonivocal]

Tempo errado batera... clichê da kinslayer

[stefannpaull]

si eu am fost cu bacul in perioada aia :(!

si eu va urasc pe toti care ati reusit sa ajungeti

[Leidplagedich]

:))..eu am bacul tocmai acum..deci am reusit sa ajung!

[Gianny214]

que raro como le sube a las notas en los primeros versos y los hace más agudos, también a los versos anteriores al final que van en paralelo a los primeros... Muy linda la ejecución en general...

[PhAntOmEttA]

is it professional video ?? can we see that in net for download ??

[spropaganda]

nope, this show will not be on the net!

[BlackIndra]

Awezome performance, as well the video... Thankz for posting it.

[edeyale]

hey que buenos videooos!!! gracias por subirlos son los mejores videos que he visto desde que empezo la segunda parte de la gira ^^ q buena calidad

[muxtii]

i was there!first line:> incredible!!!

[TrueSuomiMetal]

Nobody wants to hear the name of these fucking whore Anette!!

And the dance moves are 110% Tarja!!!!

Tarja we love you!!! <3

[Blackdawn4]

Really, calling names like that is a sign of a 10 year old.

[PhAntOmEttA]

+600 !!

[00omg000]

hey it Fucking whore Crapnette not anette. Tarja Rulez :)

[JDarkMoon]

Cool, they played a clip of "Shortest Straw" by Metallica in the middle!

[Evatarma]

This song is always better live than on the record!

Tarja <3

[l1ar1]

Wasnt it like Metallica in around 2:50 ?

[GothicDivine]

she has so great hair Oo

[13blizzards]

sunt curioasa cum v-a decurge concertul nw de la sibiu...incomparatie cu asta cred k v-a fi jalnic!!

[spropaganda]

de ce crezi asta?

[13blizzards]

pt ca tarja stia sa faca si show nu dora sa cant am fost la concertul nw din 2005 si m-a tinut cu sufletul la gura tot concertul,din cate am vazut anette e cam pe langa,pe langa faptul ca am vazut-o plecand dintr-un concert plangad...mi se pare de prost gust

dar om trai si om vedea...

[kazaa2k]

Am fost in ungaria la concert la NW. Suna superb.

[oissakify]

KKK, lost all his talent out of nightwish!

[HimuraCesar]

Is that guitarrist Kiko Loureiro from Angra??

[spropaganda]

yes!

[kakka667]

HYVÄ TARJA! TARJA TAKAISIN!

[rafa993]

i love this woman ^^

[Vroni831]

I like the song so much and i like it much better, in her solo performing without Nightwish and i like Maria, she is good...

[endairagoth]

aah.. she is flawless and really amazing live!

[CrankBubble]

This was.. This was... * _ *

I really missed this song live...

The band is really good too!

thanks for upload :)

[despy12d]

nightwish nu mai e ce a fost fara ea;)

nici eu n-am fost la concert:(

[babylon333]

Wow!!! eat you heart out Annette.Tarja is the real Queen of Gothic metal

[karlottokurt]

Tarja is not Gothic, and Nightwish is also not.

[manuelvelizan]

Tarja Headbanger!!!! ;)

[theodorgh]

OOOH DAAAA!!! am vrut sa merg da n-am putut!! YYEEESSSSSS!!

[13blizzards]

super, va urasc pe cei care ati fost,mie nu mi s-a suprapus cu bacul ...doar cu un rahat de examen ...si eu stau la 600km distanta :(

macar am vazut-o in 2005 cu nw!

[lostinthedark2008]

omg...ce am pierdut :(( partea nasoala e k data concertului s-a suprapus cu bac-ul...:| pentru multi dintre noia fost o piedica sa venim la concert...:(

[spropaganda]

niciodata nu voi intelege cum plm nu poti sa te duci undeva 2 ore sa te relaxezi ca ai bacu' !!!! doar daca nu stai la 2-300 km de locatie.......

[lostinthedark2008]

ei bine, afla k yo stau la "2-300 km"

[Icecrsty]

Nike cam !!!

My video is not that clear it's foggy, to bad

because i was in a very good filming place : /

[Oomka]

very, very nice)) many thanx, spropaganda.

[TarjaSenpai]

ohohohhh great new outfit!!!

[tzonki]

im so sad i could not come to bucharest to her concertr :(((

i live in romania but in another city so i had not enaugh time to go to bucharest :(

maybe ill get another chance

<3 tarja

[Hunt4Tzapi]

quality is not that bad, thanks for posting. Was an awesome evening, loved every second of it.