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  • where are the satanists in this panel?!

    

  • all God wants to do is save man and man just continues to mock God and give into satan. it will be a whole different story when lost people end up in eternity on the wrong side.

    how and why would you mock something made to help you from sin and flesh and eternal death? Really? you are a fool to turn down a firemen when you're trapped in a burning house, you are that same fool to turn down a God who died for you and wants to give you life eternal.

  • this is the second time im watching this debate.. im goin to skip through Annie's "Testimony" this time around, lol. deff doesn't add anything except to much emotion and not enough logic or rationality.

  • I love Annie, her story, and her ministry - but this is an academic debate, and she doesn't really have much of anything to say. I think Pearson is a close second - Chopra and Driscoll really make this debate.

  • @NameBrandClique how does she not have anything to add?????

    she's been in satan's grip first hand. she talks about how God is real and brought her out after having seen ten other females die and how satan is real and get girls into hooking and porn and then kills them. she is a walking living epitome of how real God and satan are and how one wants to save us while the other one tries and kills us.

  • @721rem I agree with everything you wrote. I'm actually a Christian, and I love her story and her ministry - I think she's a fantastic, amazing woman.

    What I meant was that, in my eyes, this is an academic debate. Generally speaking, personal stories and experiences don't have a place in an academic debate. To say "I know that Satan exists because I experienced being attacked by him" doesn't stand up to academic scrutiny.

    On the other hand, Driscoll responds to every point academically.

  • @NameBrandClique that just shows the power of God. he cannot be "debated". thats just a ploy satan uses on man. God is about a relationship and thats why she was important. God isnt scientific, he simply request that we believe and allow him the opportunity to reveal himself. you cannot have "any" conversation about God without him making sure he sends his witnesses. God is different from what man tries to make him in conversations. God is too big for our little minds to grasp. he's God

  • Richard Dawkins should've been invited to this debate.... He would just slaughter them all effortlessly.

  • lol horny...

  • How is this even a fucking debate - it's just a bunch of people making statements they cannot possibly prove.

  • @Resenbrink LIKE THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES (not really) ;)

  • @Resenbrink You hit the nail on the head there. This 'debate' is a joke.

  • What the hell they are saying about... Please search about anton Lavey and his church of satan... They care for satan more than god

  • @psychedellic420 I mean that when she was younger, she didn't have any STD's, not to mention that she was probably hotter. So I would do this hooker (and maybe willing pay for it too) if she was younger.

  • @Clifton100 Annie still looks good now! =)

  • @RussX5Z of course, I admit.

  • Christians will sometime defend the devil more then they will defend GOD?> Wrong. opening Statement , there is No christians that will defend the devil under any Ground, and it obvious if u say u are a christian and yet u defend the devil you're obviously a false believer also known as a wolf disguise as a sheep, and thats what the bible talks about to whom Christian must watchout for, u will know them by their fruits meaning the bible says. many live life by word and not by doing. GOD BLESS

  • @arcangel1222 Because Americans believe in New World Order... They Hail Satan! They want to bring the rule of antichrist... Please search on internet about it

  • boy, when that prostitute was younger I'd do her.

  • So according to this Carlton guy, if i don't believe in satan, then he doesn't exist??? what kind of insanity is that?!?! So if i don't believe in gravity, which i cannot see either, does that mean i won't suffer the effects of gravity if i jump off the top of a building? come on man! is that really you're argument against satan's existence? if i don't see him and don't believe in him, then he's not there?

  • Bla bla bla! Its always easier to blame someone or something else than take blame. These three are scary - guess there is a satan.

  • She's still a hooker...now she's a hooker for Jesus.

  • How do you get raped? When you voluntarily have money for sex. I just don't get it. Somebody get it through my head.

  • @rocaho001 I suppose it's when she doesn't get payment, or when the man and her didn't make an agreement and he had sex with her (when you're a prostitute many people know that you're a prostitute). But I see your point, when you put yourself in that lifestyle, how can she call it rape when what she's doing is offensive to everyone else... spreading STD's, violence, and many many forms of darkness into the lives surrounding her.

  • @Clifton100 Yea ofcourse. I understand the idea of how it can happen, it can be forced, but when you choose to be a prostitute it's very hard for me to feel sorry if you get raped. In other words, if her pimp would give her 40 or 50 dollars, then she wouldn't feel raped because she's earning an income?

  • I'd offer that old bitch $10 to blow me. $20 for her to bend over and stick it up her ass.

  • "The devil controls the prostitutes"...UGH

  • @cherylsalo lol rite?

  • She still looks like a hooker.

  • Horned would have been a better word than horny lol...

  • Could you cast the devil out from Deepak Chopra as well. He needs to be delivered from the spirit of hogwash!!

  • They should have a third side of just Hitchens sitting behind them and yelling "Rubbish!" "There is no god" in the background. :D

  • Way to go ABC. Not one person of logic and reason on the stage. Would it of killed the program if ABC had 1 educated person that does not believe in any invisible people....one.

  • Everybody knows that a slut like that is blonde, dumb and full of cum

  • she made no case for satan just for bad choices

  • @ModernDeism Do you think Deepak is the wisest man on this stage? I like the way he thinks. The blonde did make some bad choices but I am glad she got her life together. You have to give her credit for getting out.

  • @RealTime88 on that stage, yes Deepak was the smart one. And yes I am glad she got out of her destructive behavior as well but I fear that she fears that demons are waiting in the bushes just to screw with her again.

  • @ModernDeism That is true, people view satin or evil in the world differently. Deepak seems to think we obsess over it too much and I agree with him. We can only learn from our mistakes.

  • First she O.D. and THEN she started hearing voices :)

    Something is fishy here.

  • You know ABC's debate is a joke if Deepak Chopra is the voice of reason.

    Does Satan exist? The fact that people are STILL asking just makes me want to either become a hermit or build a spaceship to find a planet for rational people to settle on.

    Unfortunately I don't have the cash to sustain either option.

  • as much distaste that I have for annie and her views, at the same time, i want to say to her that she isn't giving herself enough credit. God and jesus didn't save her. god didn't descend from heaven and smite her pimp. God didn't save Annie. Annie saved annie. she had the strength, fortitude and willpower to act. to get out of the life she was living. she's giving god too much credit for what she did, and satan too much credit for what those "men" did to her.

  • LOL you can tell the douchebag priest wants to smash the holy hooker

  • The guy talking about "casting out demons" had me literally rolling on the floor!!! How much of this irrational fear mongering bs can one listen to??

  • god what a dumb bitch.

    "I heard voices...was not me..must have been SATAN"

    This poor thing needs a therapist, not jesus.

  • i really wanted her to take out a tittie

  • They just make this shit up off the top of their head.

  • demon caster-outer XD(exorxist?)

  • a cocain addict heard voices! thats gotta be the devil,i mean what else could it be XD

  • @dave1122drum Genesis 3: " Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. and he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?. And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which IS in the midst of the garden, God has said 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it lest you die." Then the serpent said to the woman, "you will not surely die.

  • @ThinkPinkLeah Satan is a liar of all lies, a deciever,. Choice is necessary, man was made in the image of God as humans there had to be somethin to choose...

  • @dave1122drum maybe you should check which bible your reading, satan used the serpent in the garden, he tricked Eve as he does to all the people, that's why he is also called the father of lies

  • why is there no atheist on the panel?

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  • @LadyYuzuki Who are you to be judging her? your nieve to think that help only comes from people! people will let you down.

  • @ThinkPinkLeah

    hmm your right I was a bit harsh

    I don't understand the other half of what you said though

  • there are woman that have changed their lives by becoming mormons jehovaswitness catholics that is no argument for satan or christianity.

  • cocaine is a hell of a drug

  • @zachywackyt Man created god in his own image. I can look around and see and feel if my telephone is real, but I can't see or feel god anywhere. God, the same person who created satan, killed babies in the flood, allows people to get murdered every single day. He likes to see people suffer, but don't worry he'll bring you back in a new world or heaven, but in the mean time you suffer because your ancestors were bad people.... BS!!!

  • obviously the ex-hooker was high. She was most likely depressed or had/has a mental disorder, don't mean to be a dick about it, but people often confuse this as the "devil".

  • @SuperSunny1977 Muhammad was a mad crazed man who couldn't even read or write.

    Jesus could not have been merely a prophet, read what he said. He was the last of the prophets, the one who came to save all, and be what the prophets told of.

    Islam is a false religion leading others astray from Christ - who said he is the only way to God.

  • WHY again should we treat her with ANY amount of credibility when she says she saw Satan while hoppedup on drugs!?

  • Why does she still dress like a hooker?

  • It's not "ex-hookers for Jesus".

  • @kausidya hahaha fair enough. good point.

  • @ross259 Because even though she tells everyone she loves Jesus now, she's still an attention seeking slut.

  • @ross259 haha, it looks like she is still pursuing money and fame to me. I wonder how much she is making off of hookers for jesus?

  • @ross259 why are you only judging on appearances? Did you even hear what she was saying?

  • @unclejedimaster I didn't make any judgments based on her appearance. In my opinion she dresses like a hooker. I do judge her on what she is saying and I think she is irrational, delusional, self important, transparent, stupid, unsophisticated, and addicted to attention.

  • @ross259 fair enough, you're certaintly entitled to your opinion, just wondering if you held a consistent standard of judgement for the other participants, too....

  • @ross259 Rude.

  • @ross259 I was about to say that. Ha ha!!

  • @ross259 how is she dressed like a hooker???

    she has on pants and a sweater for god's sake.

    what about these whorish looking women today an dhigh school prom gals that wear those short tight skimpy dresses. they need the pants.

    she has on pants, hookers arent into pants. they wear short skirts.

  • "God is love". Hilarious, hookers are dumb.

  • Why does she have a pimp in Vegas? Is there a loophole in the law or was she just plain retarded?

  • I heard from a nuclear engineer at the Nevada (Atom) Test Site that he's been out that way.

  • there is no god or no satan, do good you will have a good future... do bad you will get bad. that is all.

  • I hate when the guy who believes in satan starts to talk and you can here laughter. Stupid people.

  • Since this show was on Satan, how come they didn't invite Satanists? Like Peter H. Gilmore(Church of Satan), Michael Aquino(Temple of Set), Paul D. Valentine(WCSL), or John Allee.

  • @Jaco1970 Are you retarded? There were no satanists there because if there were satanists there there would have not even been an argument. Satanists believe that there is a satan, they worship satan, Christians believe there is a satan. Use you're mind before you go throwing around idiotic comments

  • Technically a Satanist could of been queued in as part of the Jesus crew for the existence of Satan. It would of been interesting to see a Satanist stating their own belief structure or experiences in why they think such a entity exists.

  • @ antoinelamond...how does a hooker dress?..I don't see anything hooker like on her outfit and even if she did, there is absolutely nothing wrong with dressing up sexy... because there is nothing wrong with SEX.....sex, or sexy is a neutral energy ...besides that everybody has the right to dress up in any witch way they please..

  • jesus the "lord" is fiction.

  • hookers for jesus. thats all you need to hear. Jesus the "Son" of a "God"? nope. God: a man in a white beard and robe? nope. Satan? nope. Hell?nope. Devils & Angels? nope....

    The Universe and the Milky Way Galaxy Which proves our planet and lives to be insignificant and pointless? yes. its fact. sorry :-(.

  • Let's see, she's covered head to toe, no fishnets...where do you see a hooker? Why because here hair is bleached? Stop judging.

  • Zachwackyt: I agree, Christianity was written in blood. The blood of the perfect God-Man on behalf of you and I. You're crimes against your Creator are evident by your own conscience. The way to receive this freedom is by trusting the One who made the sacrifice to take your place. Turn back to the Father in humility and dependence and He will reveal Himself to you. Much of the bloody religious history of Christianity is contrary to the Way of Jesus. When He is the focus, all hatred fails.

  • That Carlton Pearson just blew them out of the water.

  • Actually, the ex-prostitute had it down. Carlton Pearson is a bit off in the head.

  • Christians built western civilization as we know it zachywacky, you condescending fool!

  • the bible says that lucifer was Gods most beautiful creation, until he turned against God. and became satan. and the devil in not omnicient

  • that black "Minister" is terrbly misinformed, Christianity and the Bible have NEVER taught that God was ominscient or omnipresent, nor that he had horns, he needs to read the Bible he thought he believed.

  • dont you mean satan?

  • yes, i meant satan.

  • ok dude, you are stereo-typing all Christians in to one huge category, and the Christians that are on this debate are 2 of the most impacting people in America. Your own selfish reasoning is what is flawed, I pray you come to some understanding that no matter how much you want to discredit scripture that you will do some actual research and not make some secondary opinion or a decision by what your have heard from others. and lisagabel is right 100%

  • Neither were the 12 disciples Jesus chose uneducated fishermen & such. God uses the foolish to confound the wise. Lowly little shepherd boy David slew Golliah the giant & became king.

    Nothing could be stranger than God in a manger.

  • The teorie of the ALMITHY SATAN , if anything goes wrong, is the DEVIL!

  • nice tits on ex-hooker instead of talking shit she shud give me a deepthroating bj :D

  • i doubt she'd need to deep throat you......

  • you are a fool!

  • The ex-hooker had a nice story and if what she saids is ture I do feel really bad for her. However her story brings nothing to proves Satan, Persnol Experience is subjected evidance. She needed to give us somthing that "we" could see. I find her argument to be more of an emotinal apeal then an objective one.

  • Perhaps she saw abuse in her life as evil and found that the religion and comuntiy was comforting to her.

  • gotta admit though, i will remember it more and it is greater advertising than lets say.... "salvation for prostitutes"

    hookers for jesus sounds right to me.

  • Christianity is what weak people rely on.

  • I think that what she labels as "the devil" is really nothing more then the childhood abuse/lack of love from her family that she was unfortunate to have experienced. I think her story is important, but she has to realize that when she was "Asking God for help" she was talking to herself. She helped herself change. Think about it.

  • Yup yup! I wish they'd come back out to the west coast again!

  • Check out that pastor checking out that hooker!

  • That's Mark Driscoll you're talking about. He doesn't lust after other women.

  • he just did. Even Jesus lusted after Mary Magpie

  • I believe her name was Magdalene. Jesus never sinned. Lust is a sin. Therefore, Jesus did not lust. Why do you feel the need to spout your blasphemous nonsense on this site?

    P.S. She's not a hooker anymore.

  • Yes, I'm sure he does. He's a sinner like the rest of us.

  • If he ever does unwillingly lust after other women, he would deeply regret it afterwards.

  • How do you 'unwillingly' lust after someone? Lust, like all sin, is a conscious, willful action.

  • Why is this chick telling us her life story? Is that some little-known debating technique?

  • She was giving a her explanation for why she believed that the devil is real.

  • Hookers for jesus! This is the best the christians can offer? lolz what a joke

  • jesus is a pimp

  • LMFAO!! yes yes of corse it the "devils" fault you od'ed and you became a hooker... WRONG its YOUR FAULT! YOUR FAULT YOU GOT INTO IT! these people make me sick! "ohh i did this tha... but was satan not me" FUCK OFF!!!! god u ppl piss me off sooo much!! yes there religion, yes it causes more wars. and yes is hypocritical! lets see just how fucked up this is... vicors and preasts were there robes with pride!!!

    PRIDE = ONE OF THE 7 DEADLY SINS!

  • lol These people are batshit crazy!!!! The devil made me suck cock for cars and coke for 16yrs! hahahaha such bullshit!!!!!

  • i like mark driscoll's shirt does anyone know who made it?

  • Mmmm, Satan!?

  • Fuck satan. Fuck god. It's on you, bitch. Own up to your responsibilities as a human being.

  • What you are saying is the 100% truth be fucking responsible. Ignorant humans

  • I didnt even understand what that black dude was on about..?

  • That is the truth.

    She was desperate and needed a change. Simple as that.

    Perfect candidate for believing in something that could help her redeem her behaviour.. She is a proven uneducated and gullible person. Bad choice as a debator. Bad move Christians lol.

  • Wow, that woman has actually shown what the other guy was talking about; she doesn't want to believe that she's capable of having suicidal thoughts, so she's inventing a boogieman to blame.

  • couldn't agree more.

  • Hear, hear!

  • why didnt they invite Jesus to the debate? ....

  • We cant see everything with our eyes!

  • that's why there's telescopes and microscopes to help with that...

  • That's still seeing with our eyes as far as I know :S

  • in a sense :P

  • Hookers for Jesus chick is blaming her trouble pass on Satan instead of herself. I see a big issue with this because she is saying that it's not her fault.

  • I think / hope it's more that Satan is speaking to people like who she used to be....at 2:16, she said she asked God to save her "from him[satan], myself, and my bad decisions" - this must mean that she realizes that she IS responsible, but that doesn't mean Satan isn't rooting for her and tempting her to fuck up. Peace, love

  • It seems like people are unable to admit they made mistakes. So they blame satan.

  • I believe bigfoot exists. Therefore, bigfoot exists.

  • Nice!

  • This is awsome, "Demon Caster Outer!!!!!!!" and "Hookers for Jesus," Amen sister!

    HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH!!!

    Is ths really on ABC? I mean a seriolus news channel doing a piece about mysticism, and bronze age beliefs???

    WOW!!!!

  • AHAHAHA Hookers for Jesus!!! That's fucking GOLD!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHA!!!

  • @Ermac04 LOL

  • demon caster outer? WHAT THE FUCK? wow... bronze age beliefs are so funny.

  • Demon caster outer? RIGHT!

  • what a joke.

  • the black guy has very unique theology. I like it.

  • The last guy (the black guy) is a total whackjob, the other 3 are at least using their minds to present their arguments.

  • The dude is a ghostbuster lol

  • You know the amazing thing about it though? It doesn't matter if YOU or anyone else finds sympathy for her, because God did and even after all of sin she surrounded herself in, He forgave her. And she's is so much better off than so many other people now because whether anyone buys her story or not, she has a relationship with Christ. She has God and it doesn't matter if she has your sympathy.

  • Well, she was able to fool you so I guess she got what she wanted. You call her action's a sin while I say that it was her bad judgement. And how arrogant you are to believe that you have all the answers when they are impossible answers to attain.

  • The answers are written in the bible. I didn't make them up.

  • "The answers are written in the bible. I didn't make them up."

    Perhaps you didn't, but others did. The bible is ALL made up BS to reflect bronze age thinking, because that is when it was made up, during the bronze age.

  • I love how everyone keeps using the phrase "Bronze Age" as an argument... saying that since something is old and outdated that it's wrong. Whatever the TRUTH is, it has always existed and therefore is as old as time itself.

  • But while the TRUTH is eternal, we can't actually tell what the truth is until we've proven it completely, and as such proofs and explainations can be outdated, and indeed, most explainations of the world from those periods have since been found to be incorrect.

  • In the same way we can't disprove certain things completely. Sure we can disprove that the Earth isn't flat or that it isn't in the center of Universe... but you can't disprove things like the existence of an evil supernatural force, without stepping outside of the natural world.

  • How do you know? Atheists and Theists both believe that people physically penned the BIble, but it matters where you believe those words came from - believing they're BS takes just as much faith as believing they were inspired by a divine being, wouldn't you agree?

  • yes but if we are wrong we are just dead if your wrong then you spend eternity wishing you really were just dead

  • If I'm wrong? I believe in God and I believe Jesus is who he said he is

  • "He forgave her."

    How do you know? Did he tell you?

  • "Healthy People Do Not Need Satan"

    - Indian Guy Who Believes in Yogic Flying

    The hooker's story is total bullshit, not that it wasn't true or something, but it was a bullshit argument.

  • Im a Christian but 95% of people who misrepresent Christianity...say a bunch of cliche' predictable stuff...Her testimony was awesome but not convincing to non believers. an atheist would be quick to say well she just got tired of it.

    The "Demon caster-outer" at 3:15 is full of shit. His terminology is jacked up anyway

  • You truly don't know who he is. Carlton Pearson was once one of the leading people in the Pentacostle church. Despite his new misguided theology, he is a genius. He knows what he is talking about. Look up Azusa, can't find anything about it without his name.

  • Nope...never heard of him but I do retract my statement after watching entire debate. Very intelligent. Will def look up some of both their work.

  • He is leading the Gospel of Inclusion theology to people. Since he did, he has lost his congregation, and he denominational connections. He's smart, but misguided. Even some of his comments in the debate were anti scripturual and a little eisegetical.

  • I dont believe in all scripture myself. It's been tampered with too much.

  • She hated herself, then she found god and everyone else hated her. It was her choice to be a prostitute and now she wants sympathy? Not from me. Couldn't those demons have screwed some sense into her? LMAO

  • i bet the black guy would like to "cast" the devil outa her

  • wah wah, stupid hooker, these sad reformed sinner stories are a buck a billion, like the dude before her said, "healthy people dont need Satan" .... id like to add god to that statment

  • Carlton Pearson is an heretic. There is a devil. Ask Jesus. Jesus cast out actual demons. Jesus was tempted by the actual devil.Jesus believed in Satan. Believing that there is a devil who is powerful isn't the same as worship. Funny how people quote jesus and say what they think Jesus would want when they wouldn't no anything about jesus if not for the bible. Saatan is real and so is hell.

  • why would anyone start judging her..? we all sin i bet not one person could say they haven't at least she said she was sorry for her sins so no one has a right to judge her for her past.

  • Hey now ppl! She's gotta dress/look like that so the hookers on the streets will actually listen to her. Go Annie!