After reading The Persian Boy, I love Bagoas so freakin much, I wish that Alexander have lived on with Bagoas instead ;( oh wellz maybe somewhere in sometime, they have been reborn together <3
@Schijoni The book is called "THE PERSIAN BOY" by Mary Renault. It is the second book in the trilogy about Alexander of the author. It tells the story of Bagoas in first person. It is a very beautiful and romantic novel. Bagoas's love for his Lord Alexander, so submissive, so committed, so beautiful!!! I recommend the book because when you read it notes that the character of the film is based on that novel. It is much better appreciated the wonderful performance of Francisco.
@LadyVioleta1 The Persian Boy...my favorite book ever. Have read it many times over the years without ever tiring of it. Beautiful writing and descriptions by Mary Renault, who wrote many books set in ancient times and all of them are wonderful. Read Fire from Heaven, Renault's story of Alexander's childhood and youth; another great book. I always wished for The Persian Boy to be made into a film and Oliver Stone's movie is the closest we're probably going to get.
and I am certainly not about to take a hollywood film as a source. but, hey, we all know how the film industry influences public perceptions and subconscious, unfortunately.....
interesting how all the pro-homosexual community goes out of its way to prove that Alexander was actually gay, even if there was not one shred of evidence. and please do not reply by "many historians, or historical accounts etc say this or that" or the best one is "it is a well-known fact"... I am not saying he was or was not. but until someone produces credible historical sources to support his view, everything else is pure conjecture.
The are 3 version's of Alexander, the theatrical version [shown in theatres] the directors cut and Alexander re-visited released on dvd 2007. This is the only version that uses all the footage filmed. It runs 31/2 hours long, the only version with Alexander on his death-bed saying to Bagoas " Tell me Bagoas, have I made you happy? I don't know what happiness is." I own all 3. So much was lost when the library at Alexandria was burned we can never know. Cleopatra was know to pray at his tomb.
omg they shuld of put these scenes in the movie it was soooo f-ing hot!! im more of a hephastion fan but bagoas is uper sexy..lol thanx for the awsome video
OMG I LOVE THIS. I'm momentally watching this movie in my history class and like i haven't scene these scenes yet.. they're so freaking hot. And they are so beautiful together!! <3 damn i want such a black haired guy for myself now xD
No doubt Hephaistion was Alexander's lover and friend at times. But as for Bagoas...I doubt he was more to Alexander than a precious toy. Alexander liked having beautiful things around and I think that's why he kept Bagoas so close. There's not historical evidence of Bagoas and Alexander except for the kiss and a few mention of "Beloved" Bagoas. I think it's sweet Bagoas have someone that doesn't abuse him but I doubt more complex emotions developed. A bit hero-worshiping....
@arescraft Actually it was mentioned that Bagoas had been influential in certain decisions Alexander made, which suggests he was more to him than just a pretty toy. It was also mentioned that many of Alexander's men - men who Alexander considered friends - were jealous of Bagoas, which again suggests a relationship that was more than that of a plaything.
@arescraft I can, but not immediately. I researched Bagoas, and what was actually known about his life, particularly his time with Alexander, quite extensively. But that was some time ago and the links aren't ones that I've kept. Also, some of the information I gathered came from reference books and various other texts. However, if you doubt what I've said, I'm happy to hunt down that information again. I'll post another @ reply comment to you when I have it :)
@springnicht66 Ooh, I want a link too! I love Bagoas and I am counting the day I can get to USA so I can buy the Persian Boy and find other books about Alexander (therefore Bagoas) from libraries! But right now, that link would keep me sustained, please share?
@arescraft Ok, alot of the information I kept written down comes from the reference library. I can give you the detail - if you want to research it online to confirm it you can :) Obviously we already know that they were pysically intimate. Alexander gave Bagoas his own villa and instructed all his officers and courtesans to 'render him honours'. One refused - Orsines - who called Bagoas a 'whore', and paid for it with his life after Bagoas influenced Alexander to have him put to death.
@arescraft Even on the way to his death Orsines is said to have called out "I had heard that women once reigned in Asia; this however is something new, for a eunuch to reign!" Later Alexander gave Bagoas the position of a trierarch, so clearly he was not simply a pleasure slave, but someone trusted and respected. Many historians have written that their relationship was that of a love affair, and also that it was common knowledge among Alexander's people, and accepted by them. Hope this helps!
very interesting....thanks, I didn't actually he had any love from Alexander, seeing that he wasn't mentioned again after Alexander died. I'm guessing he was traveling to places, died, or stayed near Alexander's tomb as the book Persian Boy indicated, actually that was a historical fiction so maybe not, lol
@arescraft I wish we knew what happened to him. I've read that he accompanied Alexander's body and then simply disappeared a short while after. It's easy to imagine that he would slip away quietly. He wasn't exactly popular with some people and that was probably a sensible thing to do! But I guess it's something we'll never know for sure :(
Goodbye Vascular 15. I'm leaving for the airport now. I know you will miss me while I'm gone but don't worry. I'll be back on Monday. LOL You are so pitiful and such a complete idiot.
@Vascular15 Goodbye, Vascular. I am leaving now for the airport. Try not to miss me too much. I will most certainly be back on Monday so I can respond to your craziness then, if you like. I'm sorry you will be so bored while I'm gone. Perhaps you can find a neighbor who has a 5 year old child you can argue with while I'm away. A 5 year old child arguing you would be more of an even playing field, considering your mentality. Bye Bye now. LOL
@Vascular15 Another thing, before I leave, I want you to know I am very glad you do not live in the United States. You would be made fun of constantly for your ancient viewpoints and backwoods mentality. It's far better you stay in your third world environment. You are a loser. A neanderthal. And you will never, ever win. It's imossible. It won't happen. Pitiful old thing. Such ramblings! LOL
@Vascular15 Oh vascular, guess what? I have my entire office staff in here with me and we are all enjoying your rantings and ravings. We are all laughing so hard. You must be some third-world village idiot, the way you think. You are no historian, no scholar, and certainly do not have any sort of admirable IQ. But keep typing so that we can keep laughing.
@Vascular15 This is all amazingly important to you, isn't it, Vascular? You are spouting things that have some merit - but not enough to sway ninety-nine percent of the educated world. YOu might as well give up. As far as Mary Renault - the key word in her quote is plainly. There are many historians imply Alexander was bi-sexual. There are many ways to say it - and Ms. Renault knows many historians have implied it - perhaps not plainly - but most definitely have stated it.
@Lonestarry Implying something means nothing. So just so we are clear no credible contemporary historian has stated that Alexander has sexual relations with men.
@Vascular15 You are incorrect again, Vascular. There are more contemporary as well as ancient authorities who all agree Alexander, like most men of his day in Macedonia, Greece, Sparta, Persia, Egypt and all of Asia, enjoyed laying with men. It was said when a man lay with a man, the Gods blessed the union. There are so many accounts by so many different historians. You simply refuse to admit it. You are homophobic.
@Lonestarry Again you mention nothing specifically concerning Alexander, not thing. We can both see your struggling quite badly here. Thats why you ignored the points I made, its easier for you to call me homophobic rather then actually talk about Alexander the Great.
You should probably have a look at Lysistrata , homosexuality was hardly as rampant as you make it out to be
@Vascular15 There you go again, rambling and raving and ranting. You cannot compete with ninety-nine percent of the educated world, Vascular. You are using the same tired old arguments that other homophobes use. Can't you find some new material? Your viewpoint is so boring and common. You cannot think outside the box. Probably because you live in a box. Please keep typing posts so that my office staff can continue to laugh.
@Lonestarry Im unsure how people as stupid as you can function in society, do you have someone helping you use the computer?
Same old tired arguments? If they were so old then why dont you have any response to them? Its because you dont know anything about the subject.
In your mind, Alexander had sex with men, thats what you have been told and thats what you believe. You have no wish or inclination to think for yourself.
@Vascular15 Now you are using words that I used before when responding to you. You poor, pitiful, old thing. I bet your bloodpressure is soaring through the roof and your wrinkly skin is prickling with anger. Give up. You can't win. Ever. Period. You are fighting a losing battle. You need to broaden your mind. I know it is hard, being so uneducated, but just try. You might just learn something. LOL. You continue to provide humor to my office staff. Thank you.
@Lonestarry I can win, in fact I have won already. You havnt once made any point regarding Alexander. Considering this is an argument about his sexuality you have very clearly lost already. You cant admit it though, I dont think you really expected me to know what I was talking about. It would have been easier for you if I was just some ignorant homophone, but unfortunately I am not. You realise your in over you head, and your too stupid to back away
@Vascular15 I used to doubt the claim of Alexander's bi-sexuality as well, Vascular. Then I met my husband, who is a professor of ancient civilizations at SMU University. He showed me slides of ancient texts depicting accounts of Alexander laying with many young boys. That was the normal mode then. It was said, when a man lay with a man, the union was blessed by the Gods.
@Vascular15 Foolish Vascular, that is most definitely a yes. There is a page of one of these ancient written texts in the Smithsonian. Look it upon the internet. I will email you information tomorrow, once I obtain the links from my husband, so that you can read the translations of these texts for yourself - that is - if you really can read. You are probably a beer guzzling, gun toting, homophobic neanderthal.
@Lonestarry Thats not a yes, you didnt backup your statement with any arguments, you just said that you have seen evidence, but didnt say what it was . Excellent, I can do that too, you dumbass.
O and of course, I must be homophobic and own a gun.
@Vascular15 Okay neanderthal boy. Go to the Smithsonian website and type in Alexander the Great. See what is making a fool out of you! Your poor family. They must be so embarrassed by you. Why don't you get on out to the woods and bend your cousin over a fallen log and have your way with him....isn't that what you people do?
si kieren saber mas de esta historia lean el muchacho persa de mary renauld esta pelicula esta basada en ese libro aunk con mas material k fue editado
I do not know WHAT your problem is ! Curtius was only one person who did recrod the fact that Alexander and Bagoas were lovers. Their love story has gone down through the ages, and has been an inspiration to many. And it was not that it was just a kiss at the theatre, The records indicate that it was more than just a kiss of congratulations for winning an event. It was an acknowledgment of their love, and applauded by all.
I stand by my statement sir. Bagoas is the only person specifically mentioned as Alexander's ἐρόμενος (eromenos) his lover.....Bagoas is first mentioned and specifically recorded as such by Curtius.......The kiss between them did occur after a dance by Bagoas, but not in India. It occurred in Karmania, during games held to celebrate Alexanders safe return after passing through the Gedrosian Desert. This is recorded by both Plutarch and Athenaeus.
Give me site evidence. Real historians and professors are saying that we cant say anything about this. There is no evidence. And the kiss at the theatre, EVERYBODY did that at that time. The winner became kissed. You cant call that an evidence.
am i the only one who thinks the guy who plays the pretty boy (sorry, never seen this movie and I don't want to mess their names up xD; ) looks like Bill Kaulitz. Er, vice versa. D:l
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it seemes like you dont read history or have any evidence. I have read history for many years and NO evidence show that Bagoas and Alexander were lovers.
In the histories of Alexander, Bagoas is referred to as Alexander's ἐρόμενος (eromenos) his lover. And Bagoas is the only person referred to in this manner
I think this boy (Francisco Bosch) is not beautiful enough!!!! Bagoas was a beautiful eunuch (the history said he was extremely pretty).... the movie is magnificent
waop'' que chdias escenas es muy romantico mas cuando dos personas se gustan y comparte muchas cosas nunca me imagine que habia gays en otra epoca y que tenian amantes solo para cuidarse unos a otros chido no
A mi me encanta Colin Farrell, como actor, aparte que es muy bello . Estas escenas deberian ser un poco extranas para mi porque estoy viendo dos hombres bellisimos besandose, soy una mujer que le gustan los hombres, pero por alguna razon, estas escenas me encantan, las considero muy sensuales y excitantes. Huy que mas pediria yo, jaja, estar con ellos dos ahi, en ese ambiente misterioso en aquellas epocas esas.Huy, estoy fantasiando.!
Le aseguro que es normal, especialmente para los mujeres ))) A mi también me gustan hombres guapos (tales como Colin o Fran) y por eso claro que nos encantan estas escenas :)
¡oooh! ¡También quisiera estar ahi! pero... ((( xD
Puedo aconsejarle otro mi video "The persian night". Es mas sensual y excitante ;)
Amazing song and I loved the video - I haven't seen half of these scenes before. Either they were cut from the movie release or cut because I saw the movie on cable. After reading Mary Renault's "The Persian Boy," I've always been fascinated by Bagoas, and they certainly found the perfect actor for him - the most amazing mixture of dancing, tenderness, willingness, and seduction. Thank you for the video!
Very nice video - the best I saw! Bagoas is so beautiful. I love his tender hands caressing Alexander and his smile that masks pain. And the song fits great! It was a pleasure mixed with tears. Thanks!!!
great great great video! although I don't like Bagoas that much (why coudn't it be Hephaistion?), it's really good! The song is such a nice song, and Colin is an awesome actor!
I just got a woman boner.
StupidChildd 4 months ago
love this song
MrGee610 5 months ago
After reading The Persian Boy, I love Bagoas so freakin much, I wish that Alexander have lived on with Bagoas instead ;( oh wellz maybe somewhere in sometime, they have been reborn together <3
hacksign000 6 months ago
@hacksign000 can you tell me which book you have read?
Schijoni 5 months ago
@Schijoni The book is called "THE PERSIAN BOY" by Mary Renault. It is the second book in the trilogy about Alexander of the author. It tells the story of Bagoas in first person. It is a very beautiful and romantic novel. Bagoas's love for his Lord Alexander, so submissive, so committed, so beautiful!!! I recommend the book because when you read it notes that the character of the film is based on that novel. It is much better appreciated the wonderful performance of Francisco.
LadyVioleta1 5 months ago
@LadyVioleta1 The Persian Boy...my favorite book ever. Have read it many times over the years without ever tiring of it. Beautiful writing and descriptions by Mary Renault, who wrote many books set in ancient times and all of them are wonderful. Read Fire from Heaven, Renault's story of Alexander's childhood and youth; another great book. I always wished for The Persian Boy to be made into a film and Oliver Stone's movie is the closest we're probably going to get.
cintamprod 5 months ago
@Schijoni the persian boy, by mary renault :)
hacksign000 4 months ago
bagoas is soooooooooo hot!!!
MJJ332 6 months ago 2
This video is beautiful and I love the song. Does anyone know the name of it
and the artist?
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lillysnape72 7 months ago
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hacksign000 7 months ago
Alguien sabe quien canta esa cancion y como se llama?????
carlosenriquehm 8 months ago
and I am certainly not about to take a hollywood film as a source. but, hey, we all know how the film industry influences public perceptions and subconscious, unfortunately.....
rocoreb 9 months ago
interesting how all the pro-homosexual community goes out of its way to prove that Alexander was actually gay, even if there was not one shred of evidence. and please do not reply by "many historians, or historical accounts etc say this or that" or the best one is "it is a well-known fact"... I am not saying he was or was not. but until someone produces credible historical sources to support his view, everything else is pure conjecture.
rocoreb 9 months ago
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
LScorpion1 10 months ago
The are 3 version's of Alexander, the theatrical version [shown in theatres] the directors cut and Alexander re-visited released on dvd 2007. This is the only version that uses all the footage filmed. It runs 31/2 hours long, the only version with Alexander on his death-bed saying to Bagoas " Tell me Bagoas, have I made you happy? I don't know what happiness is." I own all 3. So much was lost when the library at Alexandria was burned we can never know. Cleopatra was know to pray at his tomb.
colinchick69 10 months ago
TOTALLY didn't see 2:03 coming but NICE
and ,not that htis matters, but imma chick
resortedfameforev11 11 months ago
I love it *-*
LekaStar01 1 year ago
C'est parfait!
MlleMarinaM 1 year ago
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what the fuck is wrong with people youtube should get rid of every gay thing
MrArmeniAzerbaijan 1 year ago
is collin farell gay ?
15aylinalevi04 1 year ago
I have seen the film many times, but I have never seen the two had sex or something like that (except the kiss while dancing).
Is this a scene cut out where they are to each other?
YamiBastatCaro 1 year ago
I'm sure Alexander did have sex with Hephaistion...but, I guess...it wasn't featured in the movie!
PeterPiperBoy 1 year ago
alexander should have had sex with hephaistion not with bagos v__v
FrozenDarkStar 1 year ago 11
esto no depende del lugar donde vives. hay varias versiones de la pelicula. Aqui fue usada una version especial del director de la peli.
dav20099 1 year ago
omg they shuld of put these scenes in the movie it was soooo f-ing hot!! im more of a hephastion fan but bagoas is uper sexy..lol thanx for the awsome video
ginaheart05 1 year ago 2
I love this video and return to watch it often. Thanks so much for sharing it.
MrSethStratten 1 year ago
I love Hepeastion
pixxieMUK 1 year ago
they should give these scenes in the film - I guess I would like it more xD...
but it's very hard to choose Bagoas or Hephaistion - I like both of them xD
hidexgod 1 year ago
@hidexgod yea, me too!!!
hansey0118 1 year ago
OMG I LOVE THIS. I'm momentally watching this movie in my history class and like i haven't scene these scenes yet.. they're so freaking hot. And they are so beautiful together!! <3 damn i want such a black haired guy for myself now xD
Daudania 1 year ago
eeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr...disssssturbing. in my opinion.
peppergirlrocks 1 year ago
Who was Vascular15????
Angorea 1 year ago
хорошее видео. спасибо за ссылку в дневниках)
Valya1993 1 year ago
I've seen Alexander like 1000 times and I've never seen those scenes.
Why?? It's so unfair.
Vampirexofxthexopera 1 year ago
@Austriaboi yes very openminded, very child molesting, very gay, very barbarous.
lunafringe10 1 year ago
User Vascular15 has been blocked. Messages has been deleted. Alexander lay with men. It is a historic fact.
(Bagoas in love)
dav20099 1 year ago 14
@dav20099
Resido en uurugay y hay scenas d ela película que no las pasan , porqué
sheinilee 1 year ago
@dav20099 Si , vi varias veces la peli , todas con diferentes escenas!!
sheinilee 1 year ago
@dav20099
No doubt Hephaistion was Alexander's lover and friend at times. But as for Bagoas...I doubt he was more to Alexander than a precious toy. Alexander liked having beautiful things around and I think that's why he kept Bagoas so close. There's not historical evidence of Bagoas and Alexander except for the kiss and a few mention of "Beloved" Bagoas. I think it's sweet Bagoas have someone that doesn't abuse him but I doubt more complex emotions developed. A bit hero-worshiping....
arescraft 1 year ago
@arescraft Actually it was mentioned that Bagoas had been influential in certain decisions Alexander made, which suggests he was more to him than just a pretty toy. It was also mentioned that many of Alexander's men - men who Alexander considered friends - were jealous of Bagoas, which again suggests a relationship that was more than that of a plaything.
springnicht66 10 months ago
@springnicht66
can you provide a link to a source where Bagoas supposedly influenced Alexander's decision besides what he should wear today? :p
arescraft 10 months ago
@arescraft I can, but not immediately. I researched Bagoas, and what was actually known about his life, particularly his time with Alexander, quite extensively. But that was some time ago and the links aren't ones that I've kept. Also, some of the information I gathered came from reference books and various other texts. However, if you doubt what I've said, I'm happy to hunt down that information again. I'll post another @ reply comment to you when I have it :)
springnicht66 10 months ago
@springnicht66 Ooh, I want a link too! I love Bagoas and I am counting the day I can get to USA so I can buy the Persian Boy and find other books about Alexander (therefore Bagoas) from libraries! But right now, that link would keep me sustained, please share?
Serpentlair 9 months ago
@arescraft Ok, alot of the information I kept written down comes from the reference library. I can give you the detail - if you want to research it online to confirm it you can :) Obviously we already know that they were pysically intimate. Alexander gave Bagoas his own villa and instructed all his officers and courtesans to 'render him honours'. One refused - Orsines - who called Bagoas a 'whore', and paid for it with his life after Bagoas influenced Alexander to have him put to death.
springnicht66 10 months ago
@arescraft Even on the way to his death Orsines is said to have called out "I had heard that women once reigned in Asia; this however is something new, for a eunuch to reign!" Later Alexander gave Bagoas the position of a trierarch, so clearly he was not simply a pleasure slave, but someone trusted and respected. Many historians have written that their relationship was that of a love affair, and also that it was common knowledge among Alexander's people, and accepted by them. Hope this helps!
springnicht66 10 months ago
@springnicht66
very interesting....thanks, I didn't actually he had any love from Alexander, seeing that he wasn't mentioned again after Alexander died. I'm guessing he was traveling to places, died, or stayed near Alexander's tomb as the book Persian Boy indicated, actually that was a historical fiction so maybe not, lol
arescraft 10 months ago
@arescraft I wish we knew what happened to him. I've read that he accompanied Alexander's body and then simply disappeared a short while after. It's easy to imagine that he would slip away quietly. He wasn't exactly popular with some people and that was probably a sensible thing to do! But I guess it's something we'll never know for sure :(
springnicht66 10 months ago
snif* snif*...Smells like troll in here...
... Oh, yes... there are signs of a fight between two of them.
Thor22289 1 year ago
You can get these scenes on the two disk DVD Alexander Revisited, The Final Cut.
The dance, the bed scene, the kiss....it's all there.
MrSethStratten 1 year ago
LMFAO! wHAT......
juanmora19910209 1 year ago
@Vascular15 What I don't get is why this person is SOOO upset about it. Makes no sense to me!
sonotquiet 1 year ago
Goodbye Vascular 15. I'm leaving for the airport now. I know you will miss me while I'm gone but don't worry. I'll be back on Monday. LOL You are so pitiful and such a complete idiot.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Goodbye, Vascular. I am leaving now for the airport. Try not to miss me too much. I will most certainly be back on Monday so I can respond to your craziness then, if you like. I'm sorry you will be so bored while I'm gone. Perhaps you can find a neighbor who has a 5 year old child you can argue with while I'm away. A 5 year old child arguing you would be more of an even playing field, considering your mentality. Bye Bye now. LOL
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Another thing, before I leave, I want you to know I am very glad you do not live in the United States. You would be made fun of constantly for your ancient viewpoints and backwoods mentality. It's far better you stay in your third world environment. You are a loser. A neanderthal. And you will never, ever win. It's imossible. It won't happen. Pitiful old thing. Such ramblings! LOL
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry your a nutter but too funni :D
kerryama 1 year ago
@Lonestarry o dear, you are struggling very badly now. You had best just jog on, you clearly have no clue, you just like to pretend you do.
Brush up on the old reading skills and come back to me.
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Oh vascular, guess what? I have my entire office staff in here with me and we are all enjoying your rantings and ravings. We are all laughing so hard. You must be some third-world village idiot, the way you think. You are no historian, no scholar, and certainly do not have any sort of admirable IQ. But keep typing so that we can keep laughing.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Vascular15 This is all amazingly important to you, isn't it, Vascular? You are spouting things that have some merit - but not enough to sway ninety-nine percent of the educated world. YOu might as well give up. As far as Mary Renault - the key word in her quote is plainly. There are many historians imply Alexander was bi-sexual. There are many ways to say it - and Ms. Renault knows many historians have implied it - perhaps not plainly - but most definitely have stated it.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Implying something means nothing. So just so we are clear no credible contemporary historian has stated that Alexander has sexual relations with men.
"he who asserts must also prove"
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 You are incorrect again, Vascular. There are more contemporary as well as ancient authorities who all agree Alexander, like most men of his day in Macedonia, Greece, Sparta, Persia, Egypt and all of Asia, enjoyed laying with men. It was said when a man lay with a man, the Gods blessed the union. There are so many accounts by so many different historians. You simply refuse to admit it. You are homophobic.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Again you mention nothing specifically concerning Alexander, not thing. We can both see your struggling quite badly here. Thats why you ignored the points I made, its easier for you to call me homophobic rather then actually talk about Alexander the Great.
You should probably have a look at Lysistrata , homosexuality was hardly as rampant as you make it out to be
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 There you go again, rambling and raving and ranting. You cannot compete with ninety-nine percent of the educated world, Vascular. You are using the same tired old arguments that other homophobes use. Can't you find some new material? Your viewpoint is so boring and common. You cannot think outside the box. Probably because you live in a box. Please keep typing posts so that my office staff can continue to laugh.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Im unsure how people as stupid as you can function in society, do you have someone helping you use the computer?
Same old tired arguments? If they were so old then why dont you have any response to them? Its because you dont know anything about the subject.
In your mind, Alexander had sex with men, thats what you have been told and thats what you believe. You have no wish or inclination to think for yourself.
I do
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Now you are using words that I used before when responding to you. You poor, pitiful, old thing. I bet your bloodpressure is soaring through the roof and your wrinkly skin is prickling with anger. Give up. You can't win. Ever. Period. You are fighting a losing battle. You need to broaden your mind. I know it is hard, being so uneducated, but just try. You might just learn something. LOL. You continue to provide humor to my office staff. Thank you.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry I can win, in fact I have won already. You havnt once made any point regarding Alexander. Considering this is an argument about his sexuality you have very clearly lost already. You cant admit it though, I dont think you really expected me to know what I was talking about. It would have been easier for you if I was just some ignorant homophone, but unfortunately I am not. You realise your in over you head, and your too stupid to back away
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 you are incorrect, Vascular. Very very incorrect.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Sure I am , jog on
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Bless your heart. It is hard admitting you are wrong, isn't it? Well, it's good for you. LOL
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry got anything to back your statement up? No? then piss off you retard
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 I used to doubt the claim of Alexander's bi-sexuality as well, Vascular. Then I met my husband, who is a professor of ancient civilizations at SMU University. He showed me slides of ancient texts depicting accounts of Alexander laying with many young boys. That was the normal mode then. It was said, when a man lay with a man, the union was blessed by the Gods.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry So thats a no then
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Foolish Vascular, that is most definitely a yes. There is a page of one of these ancient written texts in the Smithsonian. Look it upon the internet. I will email you information tomorrow, once I obtain the links from my husband, so that you can read the translations of these texts for yourself - that is - if you really can read. You are probably a beer guzzling, gun toting, homophobic neanderthal.
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry Thats not a yes, you didnt backup your statement with any arguments, you just said that you have seen evidence, but didnt say what it was . Excellent, I can do that too, you dumbass.
O and of course, I must be homophobic and own a gun.
jog on you dribbling spastic
Vascular15 1 year ago
@Vascular15 Okay neanderthal boy. Go to the Smithsonian website and type in Alexander the Great. See what is making a fool out of you! Your poor family. They must be so embarrassed by you. Why don't you get on out to the woods and bend your cousin over a fallen log and have your way with him....isn't that what you people do?
Lonestarry 1 year ago
@Lonestarry See, you cant even explain your point. Seriously just jog the fuck on if you have nothin to say. you downy cunt
Vascular15 1 year ago
si kieren saber mas de esta historia lean el muchacho persa de mary renauld esta pelicula esta basada en ese libro aunk con mas material k fue editado
12671848 1 year ago
hooot
LemonOdette 1 year ago
this is really awesome!!! but im like hephastion/alexander better :)
cristine180 1 year ago
you were THERE? you knew Alexander personally? or you just homophobic...?
Oksana77790 1 year ago
i love it, great job!
HebaHosni 1 year ago
Bagoas was in high regard by both Macedonians and Persians alike. And regardless of what you may say, THAT is FACT.
BagoasThe1st 1 year ago
I do not know WHAT your problem is ! Curtius was only one person who did recrod the fact that Alexander and Bagoas were lovers. Their love story has gone down through the ages, and has been an inspiration to many. And it was not that it was just a kiss at the theatre, The records indicate that it was more than just a kiss of congratulations for winning an event. It was an acknowledgment of their love, and applauded by all.
BagoasThe1st 1 year ago
Real nice! Thanks!
chinagrrl 1 year ago
I stand by my statement sir. Bagoas is the only person specifically mentioned as Alexander's ἐρόμενος (eromenos) his lover.....Bagoas is first mentioned and specifically recorded as such by Curtius.......The kiss between them did occur after a dance by Bagoas, but not in India. It occurred in Karmania, during games held to celebrate Alexanders safe return after passing through the Gedrosian Desert. This is recorded by both Plutarch and Athenaeus.
BagoasThe1st 1 year ago
Give me site evidence. Real historians and professors are saying that we cant say anything about this. There is no evidence. And the kiss at the theatre, EVERYBODY did that at that time. The winner became kissed. You cant call that an evidence.
Strategos300 1 year ago
I will of course need to do some checking, but I believe that Ptolemy was the first to record it in his histories.
BagoasThe1st 1 year ago
la verdad creo k es lindo pero da mejor con effestion...plop
jessmad100 2 years ago
@jessmad100
A mi me gusta mas pairing Bagoas and Alejandro :)
Su historia (si tenemos en cuenta la novela de Renault) llena de cariño...
AmadaAveya 2 years ago
Austriaboi, да Сергей Лазарев неплохо смотрелся бы в этой роли хД,я думаю он чем-то похож на Багоя
Payla89 2 years ago
am i the only one who thinks the guy who plays the pretty boy (sorry, never seen this movie and I don't want to mess their names up xD; ) looks like Bill Kaulitz. Er, vice versa. D:l
pookturtles 2 years ago
he does XD lol. and his name is Bagoas
Eithne19 2 years ago 2
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cant you guys get over it. Alexander and Bagoas was never lovers. There is no evidence!
Strategos300 2 years ago
In fact "EUNUCOS" (as Bagoas) were the king's lovers
ocnarf19 2 years ago
give me a evidence! GOD!
Strategos300 2 years ago
easy... just READ HISTORY (PERSIAN/GREECE). AAAAALL "Eunucos" WERE like bagoas (a sexual friend)
ocnarf19 2 years ago
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it seemes like you dont read history or have any evidence. I have read history for many years and NO evidence show that Bagoas and Alexander were lovers.
Strategos300 2 years ago
hah, and what about their kiss in the theatre? Do you mean that Alexander kissed all the boys? ))))
AmadaAveya 1 year ago
no, Bagoas was special for him. you didnt know??
Oksana77790 1 year ago
What you have here in this video is true art, a masterpiece. Bravo !!! It has moved me to tears.
BagoasThe1st 2 years ago
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This is just a rumor a guy from some country spread. But he had no evidence that Alexander and Bagoas was lovers. So the case was to put down....
Strategos300 2 years ago
In the histories of Alexander, Bagoas is referred to as Alexander's ἐρόμενος (eromenos) his lover. And Bagoas is the only person referred to in this manner
BagoasThe1st 2 years ago
Holy Shiite Muslims, that was fking hot. I love Colin Farrel.
cornmessa 2 years ago
Those scenes are from Alexander: Revisited. I highly recommend that version to fans of Bagoas. :P
Akinnah 2 years ago 3
i dont see this part in the movie whiiiii !!
Neftis136 2 years ago
I think this boy (Francisco Bosch) is not beautiful enough!!!! Bagoas was a beautiful eunuch (the history said he was extremely pretty).... the movie is magnificent
Girlovefire 2 years ago
you're right...I never thought the actor was good looking...
drunkandangry 2 years ago
It's really beautiful... I love this video!
SeirielGynwaell 2 years ago 2
for god's sake WHY did they cut this from the movie....WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!?! some of those were friggin' HAWT!!!!!!!!
hireikana18 2 years ago 26
You will see all the scenes in Alexander Revisited- Final cut ( DVD which was released in 2007 ).
sahajad 2 years ago 2
@hireikana18
sigh sigh sigh....ç___ç
You're too right!
saimonross69 1 year ago
Great song by Sergei Lazarev. Too bad these scenes were evidently cut from the movie.
chevychase 2 years ago 3
I DIDN'T SEE THIS IN THE MOVIE!
JamaicanBeauty100 2 years ago 3
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Disturbing shit.
ZleepyNight 2 years ago
this video is so Roman! XD
Mikey4Geelove 2 years ago
très beau...
KALI3018 2 years ago 2
this is so joto...
miggy0711 2 years ago
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koejke18 2 years ago
waop'' que chdias escenas es muy romantico mas cuando dos personas se gustan y comparte muchas cosas nunca me imagine que habia gays en otra epoca y que tenian amantes solo para cuidarse unos a otros chido no
corse2187 2 years ago
Realy an awesome vid and the song is WOW ! btw there are lots of scenes i havent saw from the movie i watched...
AngeloDiad 2 years ago 2
Omg i saw so many things that warent in the movie i watched...
AngeloDiad 2 years ago
indeed! so many scenes that were cut off!
DarrenJones 2 years ago
Has anyone ever noticed that one of Colin Farrell's eyebrows is higher than the other?
thebluestofpeas 2 years ago
hermoso!! ^^ lovely video and song,
I Love it!! though I prefer hephaestion.
forsak3ngirl 2 years ago 2
A mi me encanta Colin Farrell, como actor, aparte que es muy bello . Estas escenas deberian ser un poco extranas para mi porque estoy viendo dos hombres bellisimos besandose, soy una mujer que le gustan los hombres, pero por alguna razon, estas escenas me encantan, las considero muy sensuales y excitantes. Huy que mas pediria yo, jaja, estar con ellos dos ahi, en ese ambiente misterioso en aquellas epocas esas.Huy, estoy fantasiando.!
Scorpiusgrl 2 years ago 9
Le aseguro que es normal, especialmente para los mujeres ))) A mi también me gustan hombres guapos (tales como Colin o Fran) y por eso claro que nos encantan estas escenas :)
¡oooh! ¡También quisiera estar ahi! pero... ((( xD
Puedo aconsejarle otro mi video "The persian night". Es mas sensual y excitante ;)
dav20099 2 years ago
@dav20099 Hermoso video ytema musical!!
sheinilee 1 year ago
si pxs oie komo se llama ese actor ke hace de bagoas?'osea del gay ese indio?' y solo pediria yo estar contigo jajaja
ratahuevona 2 years ago
@Scorpiusgrl hermoso el video y el tema musical,¿ Quién es el actor que hace de Bagoas?
sheinilee 1 year ago
sooo touching :') very beautiful...
loulouLeto92 2 years ago
man thats gay
daymondmecas12345678 2 years ago
emm... so what?
dav20099 2 years ago 13
A=M=A=Z=I=N=G!
I'm not really a fan of Alexander/Bagoas I'm more Hephastion/Alexander fan, but this, this was beautiful video, you displayed it very good!
Great work!
missteeq26 2 years ago
oh, thank you! It´s very very pleasant for me! :)
dav20099 2 years ago
where's the scene at 1:35 exactly from?
rockxxxjunkie 2 years ago
It's from Alexander Revisited: The Final Cut (the director's version)
dav20099 2 years ago
Me he gustado mucho este video, la verdad que la musica acompaña a las escenas que has escogido!!!
Y me alegra que un valenciano actue en peliculas tan buenas coo Alexander!!!
Francisco Bosch rules!!!
Lokaury 2 years ago
es agradable leer comentarios en español :)
Cuando escuchaba esta música, pensé en suguida de Alejandro y Bagoas :)
¡Si! ¡Francisco es el mejor!
dav20099 2 years ago
Alexander was such a gay lord.
mustapha1king 3 years ago 3
yes XD
Telefonita 2 years ago
Beautiful video,lovely Francisco Bosh, nice music. Thank you.
zbalenka 3 years ago 2
thanx!!! :)
dav20099 3 years ago
I love this movie..wonderful video, thanks for making it :)
bohemianlikeyou1988 3 years ago
¡Muchas gracias! :)
dav20099 3 years ago
De nada! :)
bohemianlikeyou1988 3 years ago
So sad, and so beautiful. They couln't have chosen a better actor for the role of Bagoas, he fits so perfectly....
Thanks a lot for making my day a little better ;D
Aelsirion 3 years ago
¡Muchas gracias!
Me alegra que te guste :)
dav20099 3 years ago
It is really beautiful videlo. I love this film.Please tell me song name.Thanks. :-P
hanickatkanicka 3 years ago
Thanx! It´s Lazarev Sergey (Лазарев Сергей) - Just because you walk away (he is rus.)
dav20099 3 years ago
beautiful video!
villesangel69 3 years ago
(Bagoas in love)
bloodredrosez
it's very pleasant to me :)Thanks!!!
dav20099 3 years ago
Amazing song and I loved the video - I haven't seen half of these scenes before. Either they were cut from the movie release or cut because I saw the movie on cable. After reading Mary Renault's "The Persian Boy," I've always been fascinated by Bagoas, and they certainly found the perfect actor for him - the most amazing mixture of dancing, tenderness, willingness, and seduction. Thank you for the video!
bloodredrosez 3 years ago 4
(Bagoas in love)
Agathonia, willshedo, ramenrox
If you like it, I can advise to look my favourite video "the Persian night ". it's very erotic video about dance from the director's version
dav20099 3 years ago
hell great, longhaired guys in a slashy cut, I love this!Seems like I missed that movie completely...
willshedo 3 years ago
umm...were some of those scenes deleted from the movie or did I get the censored version? O__o;;; because I've never seen some of those before....
ramenrox 4 years ago
Very nice video - the best I saw! Bagoas is so beautiful. I love his tender hands caressing Alexander and his smile that masks pain. And the song fits great! It was a pleasure mixed with tears. Thanks!!!
Agathonia 4 years ago 2
Oh, thanks! It´s very pleasant for me!!! I love Bagoas so much!!! And I like this song!
(from Bagoas in love)
tancorko 4 years ago
great great great video! although I don't like Bagoas that much (why coudn't it be Hephaistion?), it's really good! The song is such a nice song, and Colin is an awesome actor!
flauschichanlove 4 years ago
Thanks! I'm so glad that you like it!
name: Just because you walk away
singer: Sergey Lazarev (Russian)
dav20099 4 years ago
great song and video!!
what's the name of the song?
grass5joke 4 years ago