I love how Mel makes an idiot of herself answering the question about the song Daphne sings, it's nothing to do with Bloody Mary, Queen of England, it's about Anne Boleyn
Mel isn't manipulative. Watch it again. She encouraged Niles and gave him the running start of confidence he needed to go after something he really wanted; the "cork master" title. Mel didn't have anything to gain from that. She wanted to support him.
@ 13:17 "I understand dad's been doing what he can to fill the void" .. only this show can be so skillfully sub at being perverse and disgusting! =D I love it!!
You know, in my family when we drink wine we have a lot of fun coming up with over-the-top fancy descriptions for the taste. Tonight we were doing that and someone remembered this episode. We didn't remember the name or season. Thanks so much for uploading this-hadn't thought of it in years but it still made us laugh!
I love the look that Daphne gave Mel when she came in the door after Niles and how Niles complimented Daphne on her outfit, it was sweet. I love what Daphne said about Mel, I agree with her.
@ddjmfan I don't think Daphne would approve of Mel even if Mel actually WAS nice. By this point she began to see anyone attached to Niles as a love rival.
Ugh. Mel gives me the shudders, because she seems like Maris-Lite brought onscreen — and given how godawful Maris and Niles' relationship was, it's uncomfortable because it's a real-life, common problem for people getting out of unhealthy relationships to go running to someone who reminds them of their old partner. Probably Niles is trying to cope with Daphne being unavailable by trying to recapture the time period from season 1-3 when he was married to Maris and Daphne wasn't an option.
@comeonewtf Not really. The job of an actor is to act. If a gay man does not want to act straight for a particular job then that gay man won't be getting paid for that particular job.
Mel reminds me of one of my Ex's .. She would always call people sweet heart before she would insult them in a nice way. The sound of her voice made my skin crawl in the morning haha.. I would turn my phone off purpose when I was out and when she came over go to bed early haha..
You know... I know that they're all supposed to feel bad when Niles says it would have been nice if they could have found one nice thing to say about her... but I think Mel behaved so inappropriately in someone else's home and was disrespectful to his family and friends.
this is probably one of the ONLY times I will agree with Mel. While I may not agree with her obvious dislike for Frasier just because he is Niles brother, and they have a good relationship. I do believe Niles deserves more than he gets and deserve to be Cork Master just as much, if not more, than Frasier.
@TheScaletIbisNW Also true. Mel is probably attempting to get Niles to act more like an "Alpha Male", which he most certainly is not. As was revealed, Niles knew more about wine and he was at the club longer than Frasier - even sponsoring his membership.
@jasonito23 When someone asks you to be "honest" they usually don't mean blunt to the point of being hurtful; they want you to use some tact and guile. They are essentially asking you to express yourself critically and get the point across without becoming an "asshole". E.g. Q: Am I fat? A: Well, a rhinoceros would certainly think so! VS A: You have put on a few lbs lately...
I must admit, i think daphne has being drunk down to a T! she has that thing where its like she thinks she is sober yet she is drunk :P thats good acting :P
Man, in the closet scene w/Mel, I just got a good idea of just how wealthy Niles really is. Did you get a look at that closet? Who actually has a fireplace in their freakin' closet?!! You go boy!
Wow, I just realised the leader of the Wine Club that suggest a blind tastes test is the same guy that was the "henchman" that Frasier jokingly begs to be called off when he and Niles get into a fight about Frasier's new Wine Radio segment.
LOL! Drunk Daphne is always so entertaining!! I remember the first time we saw her drunk in season one when she gets Bulldog dragged out of a limo!! XD
@TKainZero You know it's funny , I thought the writers did a bad job with her. She was simply delightful pre-Niles, but once they got hitched, they gave her nothing funny to say or do
I love Niles and all, but he needs to break the habit of letting the women in his life walk all over him.. Otherwise, they just turn into moderated versions of Maris.
The scene where Mel convinces Niles to run is BRILLIANT ! Everything about that scene is brilliant, the writing, Mel's acting....Mel was incredibly devious and Machiavellian in that scene. The acting was brilliant..
I dislike Mel. However, the way she manipulated Niles was clever, and I have grudging admiration for that. She raised some good points, too. Frasier was being insensitive. Frasier was mad at Mel for walking over Niles, but he was doing that, too. Maybe it's just too easy to walk on Niles. He has so much trouble standing up for himself.
I love how Daphne just goes from saying how wrong Mel is for Niles and then just casually - effortlessly - goes back to ordering pizza. This is one of my favourite episodes! Thank you for posting it!
I think Daphne stole the show here. I busted up laughing when she danced into the kitchen, angling to get another Bloody Mary, and simply told Niles she didn't like Mel before ordering a pizza as if she were simply reminding him of an appointment.
@jhop9898 Yes... very very cute. You should watch a film called 'Happiness', which she stars in. Completely different character, but even cuter than Mel.
@abracrow1000 I always considered myself a HUGE frasier fan but I would have never recognized something like that... impresive I tip my hat to you fellow fraiser enthusiast
after re-reading your post several times to try and crack the code that is your insanity i've come to this conclusion: you're going to get thumbs down because you're talking out of your arse. the "mel bashing" is inevitable. she is a character and we are supposed to dislike her. she's been written as an unlikeable person. she does emasculate him. christ knows what you watching it since it started has to do with anything.
I love how Mel makes an idiot of herself answering the question about the song Daphne sings, it's nothing to do with Bloody Mary, Queen of England, it's about Anne Boleyn
djstevegraham 1 week ago
Mel isn't manipulative. Watch it again. She encouraged Niles and gave him the running start of confidence he needed to go after something he really wanted; the "cork master" title. Mel didn't have anything to gain from that. She wanted to support him.
PuppetMask 1 week ago
My God I want Nile's dressing room.
zkbf2000 3 weeks ago
Thank you for uploading these. What a thoughtful birthday present :D
FKinTheCoffee 3 weeks ago
@ 13:17 "I understand dad's been doing what he can to fill the void" .. only this show can be so skillfully sub at being perverse and disgusting! =D I love it!!
windymemo 3 weeks ago
Woah... I've never seen this niles/mel seen.
And why do I not care now...?
twiwonder 1 month ago
Niles and Mel could honestly be fraternal twins
OpenGibbet 1 month ago
I really really hate Mel. Man...
DonnieFanDarko 1 month ago
this is basically the plot of macbeth.
loz1023 2 months ago
The one person who disliked this video was Mel. That's so sad.
...Still, she does have that X-ray vision.
MissGrapeNehi 2 months ago 3
Cork-Man! LOL
mikelitwin78 2 months ago
Hate Mel.
adjafri 2 months ago
I love Daphne when she says "Shaking your freaking finger at me!"
jasonito23 2 months ago 3
I'm surprised Niles didn't immediately dump Mel considering he worships Daphne...I thought he would take her word on everything.
Ryer1234 2 months ago
Daphne drunk is great
murponz 3 months ago 2
"She does have that x-ray vision"
IronHorse4642 4 months ago 3
Sometimes it's best to be like the British and be forthcoming about things.
drifter6276 4 months ago
You know, in my family when we drink wine we have a lot of fun coming up with over-the-top fancy descriptions for the taste. Tonight we were doing that and someone remembered this episode. We didn't remember the name or season. Thanks so much for uploading this-hadn't thought of it in years but it still made us laugh!
purpleshrub 4 months ago
'It would of been nice if you had atleast one thing nice to say about her...'
*long pause of silence*
'She does have that X-Ray vision...'
TheMegashibby 5 months ago
Daphne is pretty funny drunk lol
jmaan3 5 months ago
Rule Britannia!
TrooperLFC 5 months ago
@TrooperLFC Well, despite your footballing affiliations, I have to say HEAR HEAR!!
KTBFFH!
NYJALB 5 months ago in playlist Frasier season 7
why didnt virgil vote?
shantee1369 6 months ago
I love the look that Daphne gave Mel when she came in the door after Niles and how Niles complimented Daphne on her outfit, it was sweet. I love what Daphne said about Mel, I agree with her.
ddjmfan 6 months ago
@ddjmfan I don't think Daphne would approve of Mel even if Mel actually WAS nice. By this point she began to see anyone attached to Niles as a love rival.
JimboParadox 2 months ago
fuckin manipulating mel, burn in hell
NiisQHMO 6 months ago 2
Ugh. Mel gives me the shudders, because she seems like Maris-Lite brought onscreen — and given how godawful Maris and Niles' relationship was, it's uncomfortable because it's a real-life, common problem for people getting out of unhealthy relationships to go running to someone who reminds them of their old partner. Probably Niles is trying to cope with Daphne being unavailable by trying to recapture the time period from season 1-3 when he was married to Maris and Daphne wasn't an option.
grumpytosnowwhite 6 months ago
Keep it real, Daphne!
ProfessorSSJ 6 months ago 2
hum... so when a gay actor has to kiss a woman... I mean, what is that, sacrilege?
comeonewtf 6 months ago
@comeonewtf Er...it's kind of like a straight actor kissing a man. Or a married actor kissing an actress who isn't their wife.
"Sacrilege"? Really?
grumpytosnowwhite 6 months ago
@comeonewtf Not really. The job of an actor is to act. If a gay man does not want to act straight for a particular job then that gay man won't be getting paid for that particular job.
ultamatefrogmaster 6 months ago
dirty old man lol
liliz03 6 months ago
"she does have that x-ray vision" haha that line could not be more perfect!!!!
surajkiller55 6 months ago 2
"She does have that x ray vision" lol
scaj16 7 months ago 2
"my rare and expensive bottle will benefit your brother," my ass! She just said she got it from her patient.
hbanana7 7 months ago
they would've found something nice to say about her if there was something nice to say about her!!
crisvanfan 7 months ago
Her voice drives me crazy!! I dont like her at all!
trinaakers1 7 months ago
Roz has a nice ass in that skirt
rkcpimp 7 months ago
7:34 "I'm over here!" LMAO
tocamelaconga 7 months ago
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tocamelaconga 7 months ago
Cork-mobile
:-))))
rocks1705 7 months ago
Mel reminds me of one of my Ex's .. She would always call people sweet heart before she would insult them in a nice way. The sound of her voice made my skin crawl in the morning haha.. I would turn my phone off purpose when I was out and when she came over go to bed early haha..
grownman455 7 months ago
Martin is such a good guy but I think if my wife out lived me and started sleeping with some other guy I would haunt both them haha..
grownman455 7 months ago
You know... I know that they're all supposed to feel bad when Niles says it would have been nice if they could have found one nice thing to say about her... but I think Mel behaved so inappropriately in someone else's home and was disrespectful to his family and friends.
TranceStarr 7 months ago 2
15:50 <3
ByTheSeaa 7 months ago
Why did Niles ask them to be honest and then get mad when they told him?
jasonito23 8 months ago 17
@jasonito23 I think it's because it was in the script.....but I may be wrong of course!!! 8-)
NYJALB 5 months ago
@jasonito23 he didn't want honesty, he just wanted his family to like his girl friend.
TheScaletIbisNW 2 months ago
this is probably one of the ONLY times I will agree with Mel. While I may not agree with her obvious dislike for Frasier just because he is Niles brother, and they have a good relationship. I do believe Niles deserves more than he gets and deserve to be Cork Master just as much, if not more, than Frasier.
TheScaletIbisNW 2 months ago
@TheScaletIbisNW Also true. Mel is probably attempting to get Niles to act more like an "Alpha Male", which he most certainly is not. As was revealed, Niles knew more about wine and he was at the club longer than Frasier - even sponsoring his membership.
JimboParadox 2 months ago
@jasonito23 When someone asks you to be "honest" they usually don't mean blunt to the point of being hurtful; they want you to use some tact and guile. They are essentially asking you to express yourself critically and get the point across without becoming an "asshole". E.g. Q: Am I fat? A: Well, a rhinoceros would certainly think so! VS A: You have put on a few lbs lately...
JimboParadox 2 months ago
@jasonito23 honesty hurts.
twiwonder 1 month ago
wow, hated mel. Is it wrong to say that I actually missed Maris when she was on screen?
marvelmax03191 8 months ago
In all the episodes of Frasier I have watched I have never seen Niles wear a shirt that fits.
stglhor1zon 8 months ago
"Prepare to be stomped like a late harvest Gewürztraminer"
I have to use that sometime ;-)
ispyjonnytriff 8 months ago 3
I must admit, i think daphne has being drunk down to a T! she has that thing where its like she thinks she is sober yet she is drunk :P thats good acting :P
MadSpike212 9 months ago 8
@MadSpike212 I know, she's so delightful when she plays drunk! She's just the right amount of slighlty crazy without being over the top.
TranceStarr 7 months ago
Man, in the closet scene w/Mel, I just got a good idea of just how wealthy Niles really is. Did you get a look at that closet? Who actually has a fireplace in their freakin' closet?!! You go boy!
LadyVideoWatcher 9 months ago 2
Brilliant how their opinions of Mel were revealed; I miss shows of this caliber =./
Truthiness231 9 months ago
Roz is fucking beautiful.
illspirit1965 9 months ago 3
Wow, I just realised the leader of the Wine Club that suggest a blind tastes test is the same guy that was the "henchman" that Frasier jokingly begs to be called off when he and Niles get into a fight about Frasier's new Wine Radio segment.
TheSteelStallion 10 months ago
Have you ever wanted to punch a person through the screen? Yea, thats mel.
kerflop 10 months ago
I love Roz in leather boots & I ABSOLUTELY love tipsy Daphne.
ikcir69 10 months ago
roz is just too sexy :P
daveywaveydave 10 months ago
Niles and Daphne made a much better and perfect couple, they were so right for each other.
angellguardiandl0111 11 months ago
lol, the way Roz and Daphne are downing those Bloody Mary's! And then ratting both Frasier and Martin out!! :D
abracrow1000 11 months ago 3
LOL! Drunk Daphne is always so entertaining!! I remember the first time we saw her drunk in season one when she gets Bulldog dragged out of a limo!! XD
abracrow1000 11 months ago 4
Just Brilliant!!!!!
frasiernoonefan 11 months ago
Zero dislikes. Frasier audiences are smart audiences.
HuskerTexan 11 months ago
what a vicious vile woman that mel
porkbellyroast 11 months ago
It is implied, LOL!
JeffreyEdward19 1 year ago
Frasier is the best show ever! :-)
Silo2905 1 year ago
Plus the corkmaster song is hilarious! You don't often hear the word "pork" in a song...
cateye288 1 year ago
My favorite episode! "Ripe, round and thoroughy seductive...It was jammy, plummy, dense and chewy!"
cateye288 1 year ago
@cateye288 Such a hilarious line!!!
blackers11 1 year ago
" Hail cork master, Cork the master of the cork, he knows what wine goes with fish or pork"
writer422 1 year ago 2
Mel has a hunch.
murf69 1 year ago
Daphnie is great...
Mel is terrible...
But, when Daphnie gets with Niles, she becomes much less likeable...
TKainZero 1 year ago
@TKainZero You know it's funny , I thought the writers did a bad job with her. She was simply delightful pre-Niles, but once they got hitched, they gave her nothing funny to say or do
kaejae24 1 year ago
Mel is so sexy....
stormvejr87 1 year ago
"If only our venerable founder Virgil Hefferwhite were here to guide us..."
"I'M OVER HERE!" lol
bradchaz 1 year ago
5:49, most passionless kiss ever.
Dehzee 1 year ago
@Dehzee yeah but his thumb got to 2nd base ;)
krumbleton 11 months ago
GOD BLESS DAPHNE!!! XD
famouse99 1 year ago
That's great choreography when they all tell Niles how they feel about Mel!
swanscoe 1 year ago
You know Mel is controlling but in this moment she was really making him feel confident.
blargh12 1 year ago
I think Frasier was wrong about Mel. She is worse than Maris because she is visible.
We didn't have to see Maris.
MrMallman 1 year ago 76
@MrMallman Very true
CovertIndieFilms 11 months ago
@MrMallman but you have to realize that Frasier has seen and experienced Maris. We haven't. :) So he can make that call.
Iovcatt 6 months ago
@MrMallman im not defending mel. i don't like her. ha
Iovcatt 6 months ago
I wonder for whom Virgill would have voted?
ravengypsywings 1 year ago
OOOooohhhhh she's such a Machiavellian shrew . If you are what you eat then she's eaten a social climbing praying mantis.
Norkindar 1 year ago
One of the absolute best episodes ever! Love that line:
"You dirty old man!" and also "Adorable?!"
BulgariaAir737 1 year ago
I HATE MEL.
Milfuelle100 1 year ago
maybe they shouldn't have a council made up of an even number of people...that would make decision making easier
Sutchy0401992 1 year ago
manipulative bitch
juri7k 1 year ago
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tracemaster100 1 year ago
"Mrs Wadjadubokowski, Mr Crane was wondering if you had time for a quick one!" LOL
devashish08 1 year ago
Who ever loves this amazing show = Frasier please add me as a friend and message me .
The whole cast did a very well done job .
halimthebest1 1 year ago
Frasier looks very dashing in that three piece navy blue suit.
manaburn 1 year ago
I love Niles and all, but he needs to break the habit of letting the women in his life walk all over him.. Otherwise, they just turn into moderated versions of Maris.
jeromeqi 1 year ago
LOL at Martin letting Eddie in from the balcony.
Sadakogirl 1 year ago
oh no i think i just stumbled upon a pot hole in the plot whole
virgil hefferwhite doesnt vote?
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago
jammy plummy dense and chewy
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago
Spritzer-gate
Lolz
jimbobjimminy 1 year ago
you guna let your brother play lol
bigboisully88 1 year ago
niles and mel actually make a good couple.
Magesandrogue 1 year ago
The writers in the show were so wonderful!
blkchk 1 year ago
Roz calls Mel "The Girl in the Plastic Bubble"? If I'm correct that's the name of the Cheers episode where Lilith goes to live in the ecopod
joevictor53 1 year ago 2
@joevictor53 It was originally a movie starring travolta called the boy in the plastic bubble.
Dehzee 1 year ago
@Dehzee Oh right. Cool. Thanks for the info
joevictor53 1 year ago
"A colossus men" O_O WAOW!!! NILES IS GOD!!!!!!
eriolsama 1 year ago
lady macbeth.
heyshameera 1 year ago
The scene where Mel convinces Niles to run is BRILLIANT ! Everything about that scene is brilliant, the writing, Mel's acting....Mel was incredibly devious and Machiavellian in that scene. The acting was brilliant..
angela1894 1 year ago
@ the end they didn't even connect on the kiss
ImmaSellOut 1 year ago
prepare to be stumped like a late-harvest Gewürztraminer :-)
budwow 1 year ago
This is the funniest one!!! The way how Niles waves.... priceless :-D
bodegraven1978 1 year ago
Hey, isn't the guy who makes the cork master announcement at 6:35 also the Psychiatrist in Silence of the Lambs and Red Dragon?
KoH4711 1 year ago
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cazia9 1 year ago
@KoH4711
yep, sure is...
also, i LOVE drunk Daphne !! singing the bloody mary song, too too funny
also, if anyone did to my dog what Mel did to Eddie, I'd say sayonara before the eggs were scrambled for that disgusting-sounding fritata
cazia9 1 year ago
@KoH4711 Yup.
arthuronfacebook 1 year ago
@KoH4711 Yes!!
cateye288 1 year ago
Mel is a manipulative beeotch!!!
sharongt 1 year ago
"She does have that X-Ray vision..." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Love this show!
fenway555 1 year ago
wait a second....i thought martin met hester in a crime scene over a dead body...not introduced by someone.. hmmmm..
yasaschandra 1 year ago
Is that Niles's personal wardrobe? I've seen clothing shops with smaller selections.
jeromeqi 1 year ago 3
I am sooooo happy that Mel was dumped in the worst possible way. What a ho ho ho ho.... pathetic ho.
saosanart 1 year ago
Mel was such a b&*ch
vickyspal 1 year ago
"I'd dump her like radioactive waste."
Hahahahaha.
blingbling5000 1 year ago 32
Daphne just got hotter and hotter as the series went on. She looks particularly beautiful in this episode.
VUandChips 1 year ago
tht old women with martin is a HO!... totally inappropriate
lolaxxxxmz 1 year ago
@lolaxxxxmz Don't be judgmental.
shilpa88888 1 year ago
wow Daphne suddenly became a rather judgmental bitch.
MegaFullbuster 1 year ago
"Prepare to be stomped like a late- harvest Gewürztraminer!"
jackspicerisland 1 year ago 3
I dislike Mel. However, the way she manipulated Niles was clever, and I have grudging admiration for that. She raised some good points, too. Frasier was being insensitive. Frasier was mad at Mel for walking over Niles, but he was doing that, too. Maybe it's just too easy to walk on Niles. He has so much trouble standing up for himself.
INTPTT 1 year ago 4
why do niles always ends up with crazy ass bitch
twistedx86 1 year ago
I love how Daphne just goes from saying how wrong Mel is for Niles and then just casually - effortlessly - goes back to ordering pizza. This is one of my favourite episodes! Thank you for posting it!
Morty2264 1 year ago 2
that Mel is such a bitch!!
susheefan 1 year ago 2
Is there such a thing as a "cork master" ?
angela1894 1 year ago
I hate Mel's voice. Sounds like she's been running and got a cramp.
SjajZvezde 1 year ago
When the English get wasted, they get WASTED!
TKainZero 1 year ago 6
Daphne's fucking attractive as hell in this episode.
KoH4711 1 year ago
i think mel makes a very good point.
ilikeoootoob 1 year ago 2
I never noticed the fireplace in the closet
calico26 1 year ago
frasier's bodybuilder strut getting up from the table and into the kitchen
absolutely kills me every time (and ive seen this ep a dozen times)
kg such a wonderful physical comedian
i love frasier & his fellow make believe family
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago
if you win id love a ride in the corkmobile
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago 2
I think Daphne stole the show here. I busted up laughing when she danced into the kitchen, angling to get another Bloody Mary, and simply told Niles she didn't like Mel before ordering a pizza as if she were simply reminding him of an appointment.
deaddirtycarnie 1 year ago 3
When Mel is talking about her Xray vision - Martin in the background worrying about Eddie on the deck. Cute!
piraticalaura 1 year ago
"HAAAAIIIIIIL CORKMASTER,
The Master of the Cork.
He knows which wine goes
with fish or pork!"
najhoant 1 year ago 4
Haha...Daphne at 16:00 makes me giggle.
xjellymixx 1 year ago
Mel is a fukin bitch!!
casimir647 1 year ago
'gunfight at the bouquet corral' - lol lol lol greatest blackscreen ever
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago
Mel is 8 out of ten women and one of the reasons i'm gay.
admouskee 1 year ago
LOL!!!! @ the way Frasier walked out of the room after Mel revealed her X-ray vision!! LOL!!!!
mrsmcfarland 1 year ago
@mrsmcfarland definitely ... a major laugh
JustAintthatWay 1 year ago
i always thought Maris would look like Mel
JenKcomback 1 year ago 5
woah if anyone touched my dog like she grabbed eddie's collar... right out the door no questions my dog is my family.
isolatedmynde 1 year ago 3
But...the song's about Anne Boleyn, not Bloody Mary!
quasarsphere 1 year ago
Daphen's rather hot when she's drunk!
manaburn 1 year ago 3
Mel=Lady Macbeth
farleyfan 1 year ago 4
Isn't the actress that play Mel also in Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind?
YorLope 1 year ago
@jhop9898 Yes... very very cute. You should watch a film called 'Happiness', which she stars in. Completely different character, but even cuter than Mel.
ukulazy 2 years ago
I love that tie Niles is wearing before Mel comes in and changes it.
It's the same tie he wears at Daphne's rehearsal dinner when he finally tells her he loves her.
It's almost symbolic in a way.
abracrow1000 2 years ago 42
lol the 1 she changes it to doesnt rly go with his suit XD
twilightxmidna 1 year ago
@abracrow1000 Good observation!
SCSAZM 1 year ago
@abracrow1000 Yes it is! Good observation! :)
Morty2264 1 year ago
@abracrow1000 Well spotted!
VUandChips 1 year ago
@abracrow1000 It makes you wonder how the folks behind this show use symbology to send subtle messages.
arthuronfacebook 1 year ago
@abracrow1000 I always considered myself a HUGE frasier fan but I would have never recognized something like that... impresive I tip my hat to you fellow fraiser enthusiast
TreeHugerHippie 1 year ago
The cork master and the puppet master. Perfect!
cahzahh 2 years ago 6
I think this was the first episode daphanie showed intrest in Niles
daddy1330 2 years ago
Holy Shit! I love Daphne! Esp. when the broad's drunk as hell LMAO!
NEXTLOVER 2 years ago
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booooooooooodddooooo 2 years ago
after re-reading your post several times to try and crack the code that is your insanity i've come to this conclusion: you're going to get thumbs down because you're talking out of your arse. the "mel bashing" is inevitable. she is a character and we are supposed to dislike her. she's been written as an unlikeable person. she does emasculate him. christ knows what you watching it since it started has to do with anything.