I'm afraid some were corruptible. Got money to keep silence. Money from Beth. Even the phone data of Natalees calls are gone. Millions of dollars does she earn of her "dead" daughter. Could be 50 or much more. She may not come on Aruba anymore. She behaved like a beast. Otherwise: Joran knows Nat is in Europe. Other people told me the same story. Why that silence? Because her rotten mother commes running with the media. I wish Natalee all the best and perhaps... see you lovely girl!
What a pity Renée that you don't can find that list of that plane! Paul dead, Joran in prison and now also Poentje is murdered! Is someone making a clean sweep?
SO DISCUSTING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THIS,TO SEE THE FILM YOU HAVE TO PAY..WHAT IS THIS....GIVES ME A BAD TASTE,,THATS FUCKING DISCUSTING!
This is what we all really knowing for a long time. The organization who is behind this is the CID and its about a lot of money. Not only the collected money but also the insurance. Natalee is alive and lives now under a other name.
At the other hand people are/were afraid. Even Dan&Kelly for telling the camera's their news after a few years. Because: they needed time to work it all out in the past. For me: the dirst amzing soud came from Angel in Limburg, who knew that Natalee at least sometime was in Holland... with nb Joran! But also in Colubia (fa. business). But I let this thought a bit go. Until now I can give not that hard evidence like f.i. Renée Gielen etc. Hope that you bought this movie... it's a good one.
A good sunday morning you all. At the one hand it's great that there are good proven facts like mr. Joranneke I think sure has. And that Dan&Kelly already started with a lot of proof. Also what Renée let us all see from Curaçao/Aruba on this strong movie. -It could lead to new one filled with complete updates. Because the fàcts seems to tell the truth!. Logical. People living on Aruba wrote me that Natalee was hiding for some time in the West South Side for a time (St. Nicolas).
@MrJoranneke and you have the FACTS that show your claims are truthfull? ill bet not . you say its no use talking to me , in fact its very simple . ALL I WANT IS PROOF, and i belief. everyone can say you are a nutt and your mother is a drunk. would you like it , if i take that as a fact? something is not a fact.untill it is proven. same with Beth Twitty. i never saw or heard any truthfull source to your claims. so ofcourse i dont believe it. sounds like garzy Fox News lies.
Oh boy... I think we need part two of this beautiful movie! There is something living dying Renée. One thing is for sure and thats why I landed here in the past and today: I saw the sadness in the eyes of Natalee. Beside this all: Milly Boele was killed bye a normal and strong looking guy: a cop! After all: you can't believe it. You know: I am glad that You Tube has an open eye and I feel at home. Natalee... shoulders straight, head up... wherever you may be!
and if we switch the story,and say it was Beth Twitty. then the story gets weird doesnt it. then it would mean she killed her own daughter. or she faked the missing persons and Natalee is hidden somewhere in Beth basement . lol i dont think so. then who killed stephany ? who framed the hotel footage? Joran was with her ,why didnt he see the killer. if Joran was innocent then why did he escape with a cab and pay thousands of dollars to travel underground. he was on the run ,obvious.
@MrJoranneke ok ,but look at it this way. if joran did it, its easy to explain all the answers . he was trying to rob people because of his debts . he contacts people on a poker website . he ask the victems to come meet him in a casino to play. then he tries to leave togheter to rob them. why else was he in the casino 5 minutes before Natalee . and 7 minutes before stephany emtered. and why else did they both imidiatly join him at the table . he knew them from the internet.
if someone claims Beth Holloway is telling bullshit , then ask proof that you can see. when in this video ,did you see some proof ? i only heard claims . and the video in Peru ,i call that proof for all to see . 1.Joran was last with stephany and she dies . 2 there's a video of Joran and he flees the country like he has something to run for. 3.he confessed. 4. he stole her money and personal stuff. those are real evidence Beth conspiracy claims are no evidence
Listen, Her death might be true, but it all is a media-stunt i believe.
Same with Peter .R De vries, He made a Deal with an Ex Drugsdealer from Almelo, oh. and how come he came up with the idea. yeah sure, cause he knew him? Or just cause he gained allot of money for it. How come he've been Unseen since he did this together with Peter, Peter gained a grammy award for this. all this is a set-up. its about reputation, 4:30 - 4:40 is true. it's only about that. and her death is suspicious.
also, Jorans mother did a intervieuw with tv, in her holliday house. at the antilles.
Shes acting mad, and mother-ish. ofcource joran is her son, and she can be. but she also said.. if hes guilty on her death, she wouldn't visit him either. i hope she wont if it's true. Joran is psychicly seen very disabled. His weakness is his familly, after his father died earlier this year. heve been ''down''
if you put Natalie's parents together, Peter, Joran, CIA agency
@MrJoranneke those documents were looked into, oh yes.....you can see it in the docu, I think you can still download it. Hear what is said about the FBI......
Aruba up until today is the happy island in the Caribbean with the highest return rate. In 2009 we had beaten our own tourism RECORD!, and that has been so since 1954. Slendering Aruba this is a prime time advertisement that goes world wide and that is something that we cannot finance, so in a way thank you. If american press didn't slender Aruba so much maybe today we wouldn't be so known. Even in China and far back in Russia the name Aruba is known, thanks to the american press.
Faked her own death?? She was in some crack house in Aruba?? This is all about MONEY?? WTH is wrong with you people on this board?? Beth Holloway has suffered an unspeakable tragedy in the loss of her daughter & Natalee has lost her life! You people & your ridiculous conspiracy theories. I suppose Michael Jackson is alive & well too right?? Give me a break! You make the victim into some opportunistic skanky drug addict? SHAME ON YOU ALL! This video is assanine. Take your meds everyone!
omg if this vid is true do u think that possibly natalee could have faked her death (or disapearence) so her faimly could get money. this shit is confusing. dont call me stupid or anything it is just and idea.
@AwesomeBosoxfan Are you out of your mind?? Have you been watching the news?? The little Van der Sloot PRICK has murdered AGAIN!! Just as I knew he would sooner or later. Too bad the Aruban authorities couldn't find their own asshole with a flashlight because if they had done their damn job, this girl would STILL BE ALIVE!! They'd rather stand around smoking cigarettes on the street corners over there. To hell with that country. I love the carribean & travel there but I WILL NEVER GO TO ARUBA!!
@jlalewicz We all agree here that Joran is a murderer, he killed a peruvian woman recently BUT if you listen to the facts it is possible that Natalee faked her death.... I'm not saying that its true I'm just saying its a possibility you really can't trust anybody..
@dushisimba He admitted he killed that woman.. I'm not in Natalee's family side but I'm not in Joran's side either.. I do believe he killed that woman here's a quote from reuters : "He has confessed that he's to blame for the death (of Flores) because he was against the wall ... this young man did not have a choice. All the evidence, all the proof pointed toward him," Gamarra said.
@Mariiexful: again: trial by media. You may remember btw that Joran withdrew his statement, which was made under severe and barbaric pression. And that was no hearsay, or media rumor.
@cristinadied We only need to investigate the Holloway family and I think we will find all the answers that we were looking for... Beth has been such a greedy exploiter and she needs to be exposed for the crimes that she has done! Beth keeps pretending like she's an angel, actually she has been a very bad mother, nothing else you would expect from somebody who has been arrested for DUI twice!!!
We only need to investigate the Holloway family and I think we will find all the answers that we were looking for... Beth has been such a greedy exploiter and she needs to be exposed for the crimes that she has done! Beth keeps pretending like she's an angel, actually she has been a very bad mother, nothing else you would expect from somebody who has been arrested for DUI twice!!!
Stephany's neck was broken. A broken or slit neck is a trademark of local Peruvian gangsters. You should investigate Beth Holloway, she has made millions upon millions from all of this. Look at my video. The real criminal is BETH HOLLOWAY
All of this is so true. there is concrete verifiable documented evidence. Yet it is being censored by the media and gag-ordered by the Holloway family! Beth Holloway has made millions upon millions.. she's a fraud and a criminal!!! All covered up by her corrupt ties to the corrupt US government and FBI personal friends.
@ExtractCarrot i al thought this was joran but i am starting to think this is all for money. joran is making money from interviews that he makes up and the holloways are getting paid to 'try and find' natalee. this was just an idea everyone.
@AwesomeBosoxfan Precisely. Beth Holloway has made a huge sum of money. Joran ofcourse tries to make some money also, which in this world has become quite understandable. And there is a big difference. Beth has made over 50$ million and used it to finance her lavish selfish lifestyle. Joran on the other hand barely made any money and the money he does get from interviews is to be able to survive because he can't find a job because his reputation was ruined by Beth Holloway.
All of this is so true. there is concrete verifiable documented evidence. Yet it is being censored by the media and gag-ordered by the Holloway family!
This is the biggest lie and mis representation that could ever be made... completely insulting... The sad thing now is that Joran has killed again and hopefully his asshole gets to me made to look like the Holland tunnel in Manhattan....
@vandlr1981 I wonder in what world your living in??!! of course beth made allot of money and getting anything free on the island. With all those interviews Writing books and making a movie full of LIES!!! Even joran made allot of money
Who ever made this video is a unmitigated idiot. Who is the video accusing and what are they accusing? It makes no damn sense. Natalee is dead and Joran murdered her. It doesn't take Albert Einstein to figure this one out. Why does Joran keep giving conflicting statements? Maybe because he's guilty as sin? Who ever made this video needs to stop insulting peoples intelligence.
She is not dead. Natalee's parents don't want her to be found because they are making millions of Dollars and have made over $50 million so far off from her disappearance... and guess what... they haven't spend a penny of that money on finding natalee! Aruba has spent all the money on the searches and airplanes to try to find natalee but the holloway family didn't even care to even spend 1 damn dime to search for natalee. instead Beth twitty paid for a facelift and a few nice cars
@ksgriffith It's a great documentary... why? because the holloways have made over $50 million off the back of the disappearance of natalee, and haven't spend even 1 dime of it on searching for their daughter, instead used the money to buy cars and a facelift for betty.
Renee Gielen is a Goddess for the truth about Us Media cover up and support for the Twitty family at the expense of the TRUTH! You are great Renee1 Much luv and hugs!
Why was the media coverage ONE SIDED and failed to investigate these kids from Alabama? Or worse when the kids told pepole they wer etold to be quiet by thhe Twity twins mom and her attorney- why did the media not investigate this issue?
Why did the kids from Alabama actually need a lawyer? I can wonder why Natalee's step Brother and step twins might need a laywer- Family secrets. Why no investigation?? The reason is b/c Aruba has no jurisdiction in Alabama and those kids were already lawyered up! I hope this fact alones keeps no charges from coming fwd in Aruba!
Conflicting statements from Alabama kids: No witnesses state that they saw anything irregular about the event of her leaving. Natalee tells some of her fellow travelers and fellow bar attendees, who inquired about her "well being" outside the bar that she is "ok." Witnesses state that Ms Holloway does not appear to be impaired in any way. She is heard to yell cheerfully, "Woo hoo Aruba!" from the open car window as they depart.
This event according to FBI report took place at the Taxi stand by C&C- when Nat put down the window and her friends tried to talk her out of the car and Nats mindset was no- wooohooo Aruba! Seems some kids have selective memory in Alabama
FBI Transcripts. Lee Broughton and Nat were roomates at the Holiday Inn. The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was to get an alcohol drink and go to the ocean around 10:00 AM in the morning. At around 5:00 PM they would return to thier room for naps. At 6:00PM Broughton and Holloway would get ready to go out to get dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway would go outto Bars.
Saturday, May 28, 2005, Holloway became very intoxicated and eventually had to be escorted back to her room by (Kevin Broday?). Why was this Alabama guy not investigated?
So hold on, this video claims essentially that the Natalee Holloway disappearance was a black op? I can understand JFK and 9/11 but there is a conspiracy theory about Natalee Holloway? My god.. I need to hear more about this.
@hermanvandijk We must remember that the US Media has the tendency to Try, Convict and Sentence people in the media! They do so for TV ratings and print media sales. This is a common practice in the States. Many people who are actually convicted in the US media are actually NOT convicted in an actual court room. I was angry with the media arrogance when I was on Aruba. Why did the same US media NOT investigate the Twitty family? Because its not what would promote their pockets!
Herman I do care. I care about the truth and about closure for those who have been hurt. I do not wish for anyone to go to hell. Gods wants none to perish and I also want none to perish! I do not believe Natalee is afraid to come forward. Sadly I think she is deceased. I think accidental overdose. She was young and by her friends admission drinking very heavily ALL day. This is ALL very sad.
Herman, I pray you are right. I can only wish she would come forward. Jezus is the TRUTH which sets us free! Natalee and so many others need to be set free. Hope my prayers are answered!
The Twitty family (now divorced) was never investigated-Why? Thats the first thing in any investigation! You always investigate the missing person and her family (esp since she dated her two counsins by marraige) plus the boys were on that island. There own mother had laywers in alabama airport- WHY? This familiy was never investigated! Now the mothe ris divorced from Jug and shacked up with a child murdere John Ramsey. Not convicted because he is rich! You be fair!
Will not argue with you.. He wasa 17 y/o boy who found a 18 y/o girl who let him suck jello shots off her belly. She jumped on a barroom counter top. She made choices as well.. You fail to look at Beth holloway Twitty and that family! She married Jug who had two nephews on Aruba (HS Seniors) and kept silent! Why?????? Beth is now divorced from Jug. She shacks up with the the father and viewed murderer of his daughter Jon Benet Ramsey. This can not be over looked. Lets be Fair!
@hermanvandijk I understand friendship. I do not understand what you mean about money? Beth twitty recieved close to a million dollars while in Aruba (charitable donations). Then makes money on TV/radio appearances, book sales. Now married a child murderer John Ramsey! (He is worth 10 million or so)! This really sounds like money to me. Perhaps we see things differently! No Problem!
OK thank You Herman, Now I understand... I have loved my Nine years in retirement on Aruba (about 6 months a year). The people are wondeful and I find this incident not to be one that is typical and feel the Arubans have recieved a bad deal. As an American the people have always been so kind to me and I love it here. I feel safer in Aruba then in the States! I dislike USA Media hype! Peace!
@ DOCCAREY no prob...oh and right on man, everyone thinks shes a nice girl and a responsible girl...but what she really is, is a f** ing drunk slut who goes on top of every guy...oh and her mom is fucked op in her head! xD
i find that its also natalee's fault that she went in this mess, cuz she was drunk...she was so wasted that she went in a strangers car....her parents should have teached her not to drink or at least drink safely so its kind of natalee's FAULT!! to..
@TheMobeydick ...I agree mobey! Thanks for your post! Just remember that Natalee will jump on a mobeydick or atleast a barroom counter top allowing guys to lick her belly! She is a "good Christoan Girl"..LMAO!
@hermanvandijk ..Thanks Herman.. I actually spend 4 to 6 months on the Island of Aruba in retirement. Have done so for Nine years. I know this incident is an isolated incident and not reflective of the great island. I give no respect to the US media. The number one story before 911 was Chandra Levi- a slut who had sex with a US politian and died. It took people flying planes into buildings to get this story off air.
Dirty Secret! Natalies stepDad Jug Twitty knew his brothers twins (Jugs nephews) were raping Natalie. He paid for her mental health treatment and made sure ALL info was secret. Jug had his brother and his brothers wife arrive in Alabama and laywered up those kids.. Thats the corruption. Its a Good Ole Boy Connection! A southern thing! Thats why Jug Twitty kept his nephews out of the investigation and refused to allow Chief Dompig to question them. Its why the twins refused Arubas Questions
God Bless Chief Dompig.. He was right to investigate the shitty twitty family... They obstructed his investigation- why? Becaus the twitty twins raped natalie and they were protected by Jug thier Uncle..
Why did Beth Holloway/Twitty arrive to Aruba before Natalie was reported missing? It is because Thomas & Hunter Twiity who had repetedly raped Natalie called thier mommy from Aruba. Thier mommy called a Laywer and the JUG (Beths hubby).. This is why Jugs family will not release thier phone records. It reveals that they and thier Lawyer knew about Natalies disapearance before she was even reported missing! Its an ALABAMA good ole boy thing! That is why the twitty's played the corruption game
I really feel sorry for David Holloway. He knows as well as I do his 'EX flakey" wife put his daughter into a relationship with her new hubbies nephews. Poor Dave Holloway could do nothing living out of state. Plus Beth would never tell him (her EX) about her cute little match making schemes involving Daves Daughter. Natalie was seen by mental health. Not about the bitter divorce, rather about the new twins and boy friends.. Beth has her medical records and refuses to release billing!
Why are no natalie supporters mentioning the sex between natalie and the twitty twins? Why is no one asking for Natalies medical records (mental health) regarding her rape and abortion from the twitty twins? Yes, The twitty twins Uncle Jug "Nats step dad" has his own interest! Is this not why he divorced Beth holloway/twitty? Jug would rather protect his little brothers kids (his twin nephews). They were in his life long before beth of nat were in his life!
Is this why The Twitty Twind (Thomas & Hunter) who also were on aruba and dated Natalie left with everyone else? Why did the twins Mom refuse to release thier phone records? Why Did she have a Lawyer in the Alabama airport telling the kids to remain silent?
paulass you pos I am so glad you will spend eternity rotting in hell !!! You remember how bad you sweated when you got interviewed by Beth and Gretta ??? Well that was your fate !!!
Anita only you can save your pos husband from eternal hell !!! Fess up and tell the truth !!! You and urin are next !!!
by the way, this movie wazn't maid to prove that joran was inocent, it was made because on the other site! of the backyard, (the parents of nathaly , there was alot of weird things happening that was not normal! just like the things you saw in the video, and also, the mother was partying like hell in Aruba, playing in the casino, going to heineken festival, sitting on the beach drinking, and having a sun bath, and alot more.... sounds crazy bt there's alot more.
if any of you has any questions i'll be happy to answer i was here when it all happens, and im not taking site for aruba, neither for joran neither for the states.... im just trying to tell the truth here, so please don't disrespect me or anyone, cause i haven't disrespect any of you. :)
it maybe sounds crazy for you americans, cause you've never lived on the island and you don't know this, but this is realy true, that's why all the press!! for the missing girl so that everyone around the world could se and think that was the reason they sende all those f-16 to "search" our tourist rating is booming 2009 was a record! of all times! so it hazn't cause aruba anything, all the american living here know the truth i feel sry that your guys out there haven't heard the truth
the same thing that happend alot of years ago!! in japan, the american missing girl! that was the reason why america could of go near japan the search the "missing" girl and they sended alot of spy to japan, search on google you'll find it. this is the same thing, venezuela wants to take aruba over and causing alot of other prob. this is why the "missing" girl, they sended alot of f-16 to fly over aruba to search for the "girl" but in reality they where flying over venezuela taking pic etc
i don't wanna disrespect anyone in the states, but you guys haven't heard the real story, cnn, nbc, dr.phil, nancy grace, they all let you saw what they wanted you to see, it was all about rating in the states, this is realy why the case was not solved, this has nothing to do with nathalee , it's about the relation ship between usa and holland. their are some thing happening here in the caribb. that usa and holland is going to fix, it has to do with venezuela, that's why the "missing" girl
inderdaad, wat als America nou eens een hendje heeft geholpen met het verduisteren van deze zaak? om zo de relatie met nederland ongeschonden te houden?
en trouwens met die camera's, nee gaat niet werken. Dat heeft 2 keer eerder met joran én van der eem weinig 'hard' bewijsmateriaal opgeleverd.
Interessante hypothese. Moet toch een TV zender te vinden zijn die het lef heeft om de auto van Beth Twitty (nu Beth Reynolds) vol te bouwen met camera's en tracking systeem net zo lang tot ze in een onbewaakt moment per ongeluk aan iemand prijs geeft dat zij wel degelijk op de hoogte is van de echte wijze van Nathalee's verdwijning. Op telefoon en woonadres meeluisteren in Alabama zal ongetwijfeld genoeg bewijsmateriaal opleveren om deze mensen voorgoed achter de tralies te doen laten belanden.
I'm afraid some were corruptible. Got money to keep silence. Money from Beth. Even the phone data of Natalees calls are gone. Millions of dollars does she earn of her "dead" daughter. Could be 50 or much more. She may not come on Aruba anymore. She behaved like a beast. Otherwise: Joran knows Nat is in Europe. Other people told me the same story. Why that silence? Because her rotten mother commes running with the media. I wish Natalee all the best and perhaps... see you lovely girl!
hermanvandijk 7 months ago
Peru... The most amazing thing is that it also happened on may the 30st. That same date when Natalee disappeared!
hermanvandijk 9 months ago
It is clear that it's something to do with Joran, after what he did in Peru in 2010
RiddlesDreamer 9 months ago
@MrJoranneke Why the hell did Joran leave Peru the way he did?And how do you explain all of his stories ?
MrSlayer2112 1 year ago
What a pity Renée that you don't can find that list of that plane! Paul dead, Joran in prison and now also Poentje is murdered! Is someone making a clean sweep?
hermanvandijk 1 year ago
SO DISCUSTING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THIS,TO SEE THE FILM YOU HAVE TO PAY..WHAT IS THIS....GIVES ME A BAD TASTE,,THATS FUCKING DISCUSTING!
lulu8332 1 year ago
@lulu8332 yes it is and no respect for natalee holoway.
bratchercrystalful 1 year ago
FREE JORAN!!!!
RijenRijen 1 year ago
This is what we all really knowing for a long time. The organization who is behind this is the CID and its about a lot of money. Not only the collected money but also the insurance. Natalee is alive and lives now under a other name.
baseltje 1 year ago
This video is BULLSHIT!!!
len120453 1 year ago
internet- Please say it again peace of that
itspeaks037 1 year ago
At the other hand people are/were afraid. Even Dan&Kelly for telling the camera's their news after a few years. Because: they needed time to work it all out in the past. For me: the dirst amzing soud came from Angel in Limburg, who knew that Natalee at least sometime was in Holland... with nb Joran! But also in Colubia (fa. business). But I let this thought a bit go. Until now I can give not that hard evidence like f.i. Renée Gielen etc. Hope that you bought this movie... it's a good one.
hermanvandijk 1 year ago
A good sunday morning you all. At the one hand it's great that there are good proven facts like mr. Joranneke I think sure has. And that Dan&Kelly already started with a lot of proof. Also what Renée let us all see from Curaçao/Aruba on this strong movie. -It could lead to new one filled with complete updates. Because the fàcts seems to tell the truth!. Logical. People living on Aruba wrote me that Natalee was hiding for some time in the West South Side for a time (St. Nicolas).
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Oh boy... I think we need part two of this beautiful movie! There is something living dying Renée. One thing is for sure and thats why I landed here in the past and today: I saw the sadness in the eyes of Natalee. Beside this all: Milly Boele was killed bye a normal and strong looking guy: a cop! After all: you can't believe it. You know: I am glad that You Tube has an open eye and I feel at home. Natalee... shoulders straight, head up... wherever you may be!
hermanvandijk 1 year ago
and beth twitty doesnt have the profile of a mother that would plan a kidnap.
and she deffinatly would not murder her own daughter.
besides she already has that alibi ,obviously .
so
saying Beth Twitty did it, is just as grazy as saying the moon landing never happened.
or the holocaust was faked .
or adolph hither was misunderstood.
or that there is a god but we just dont see him, cause he is in another dimension.
(sorry about that last 1) lol
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
ive seen before mothers faking their own daughters kidnap.
like that English girl that was kidnapped and turned up a week later .
she was found a few houses down the block in the house of a friend of the mother or a family member.
she was kept hidden so the mother could get lots of reward money.
i have to say the mother looked like a drunk grazy witch to me.
i cant believe people sometimes dont see past the eyes .
i can see a lie from a mile away
while every moron believed her.
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"facts dont lie" he says
i didnt hear a single fact of proof in the whole video.
just bullshit claims and speculations based on nothing .
where's the proof ,so we can all see beth truly arived earlyer then has been told .
if he says its a fact ,then show us what you saw .
a document or a ticket from beth ,
computer data .
what??
he shows nothing .
he's just a bullshit tv maker.
ImmortalUniverse 1 year ago
There is a lot of holes in this story,sounds like a kooky conspiracy to me.
MrSlayer2112 1 year ago
Very interesting. I think i will downlo... buy this one to exploit aspects for my own benefit.
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@MrJoranneke
i can follow you in some way, but why did you think i sayed put CIA agency with them, they get the real info if it's needed.
and they should now.
day6660 1 year ago
Listen, Her death might be true, but it all is a media-stunt i believe.
Same with Peter .R De vries, He made a Deal with an Ex Drugsdealer from Almelo, oh. and how come he came up with the idea. yeah sure, cause he knew him? Or just cause he gained allot of money for it. How come he've been Unseen since he did this together with Peter, Peter gained a grammy award for this. all this is a set-up. its about reputation, 4:30 - 4:40 is true. it's only about that. and her death is suspicious.
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also, Jorans mother did a intervieuw with tv, in her holliday house. at the antilles.
Shes acting mad, and mother-ish. ofcource joran is her son, and she can be. but she also said.. if hes guilty on her death, she wouldn't visit him either. i hope she wont if it's true. Joran is psychicly seen very disabled. His weakness is his familly, after his father died earlier this year. heve been ''down''
if you put Natalie's parents together, Peter, Joran, CIA agency
Case solved.
day6660 1 year ago
hmmmmmm....Can you say load of crap!?!
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@MrJoranneke that is correct, Joran did not spend time with Natalee before Sunday evening.
dushisimba 1 year ago
@MrJoranneke those documents were looked into, oh yes.....you can see it in the docu, I think you can still download it. Hear what is said about the FBI......
dushisimba 1 year ago
@MrJoranneke, why do you think that?
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@MrJoranneke @MrJoranneke: Natalee and Joran met for the first time in the casino. There is no doubt whatsoever about that.
dushisimba 1 year ago
@MrJoranneke: Natalee and Joran met for the first time in the casino. There is no doubt whatsoever about that.
dushisimba 1 year ago
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
Natelee is missing some one murder her.
MexiEmpleadoCorrupto 1 year ago
Lies!
MexiEmpleadoCorrupto 1 year ago
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
Disgusting attempt to smear a grieving family.
mbs235 1 year ago
Rumours are afloat...
hermanvandijk 1 year ago
You really are a lower form of life.
maryelizabeth1968 1 year ago
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
@hermanvandijk God bless the Holloway family.
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
Aruba up until today is the happy island in the Caribbean with the highest return rate. In 2009 we had beaten our own tourism RECORD!, and that has been so since 1954. Slendering Aruba this is a prime time advertisement that goes world wide and that is something that we cannot finance, so in a way thank you. If american press didn't slender Aruba so much maybe today we wouldn't be so known. Even in China and far back in Russia the name Aruba is known, thanks to the american press.
HappyAruba 1 year ago
i send my deepest empathy to the Holloway Family. justice should prevail.
Roszanne 1 year ago
Faked her own death?? She was in some crack house in Aruba?? This is all about MONEY?? WTH is wrong with you people on this board?? Beth Holloway has suffered an unspeakable tragedy in the loss of her daughter & Natalee has lost her life! You people & your ridiculous conspiracy theories. I suppose Michael Jackson is alive & well too right?? Give me a break! You make the victim into some opportunistic skanky drug addict? SHAME ON YOU ALL! This video is assanine. Take your meds everyone!
jlalewicz 1 year ago
@jlalewicz Shut the fuck up, and listen to the facts.
FICGOTSWAG 1 year ago
@FICGOTSWAG ty i tried to tell this ass hole that it was just an idea.
AwesomeBosoxfan 1 year ago
omg if this vid is true do u think that possibly natalee could have faked her death (or disapearence) so her faimly could get money. this shit is confusing. dont call me stupid or anything it is just and idea.
tell me what u guys think
AwesomeBosoxfan 1 year ago
@AwesomeBosoxfan Are you out of your mind?? Have you been watching the news?? The little Van der Sloot PRICK has murdered AGAIN!! Just as I knew he would sooner or later. Too bad the Aruban authorities couldn't find their own asshole with a flashlight because if they had done their damn job, this girl would STILL BE ALIVE!! They'd rather stand around smoking cigarettes on the street corners over there. To hell with that country. I love the carribean & travel there but I WILL NEVER GO TO ARUBA!!
jlalewicz 1 year ago
@jlalewicz We all agree here that Joran is a murderer, he killed a peruvian woman recently BUT if you listen to the facts it is possible that Natalee faked her death.... I'm not saying that its true I'm just saying its a possibility you really can't trust anybody..
Mariiexful 1 year ago
@Mariiexful
We all agree that Joran is a murderer? I don't think so.
Killed a peruvian woman? You have the proof or just follow the trial by media?
dushisimba 1 year ago
@dushisimba He admitted he killed that woman.. I'm not in Natalee's family side but I'm not in Joran's side either.. I do believe he killed that woman here's a quote from reuters : "He has confessed that he's to blame for the death (of Flores) because he was against the wall ... this young man did not have a choice. All the evidence, all the proof pointed toward him," Gamarra said.
Mariiexful 1 year ago
@Mariiexful: again: trial by media. You may remember btw that Joran withdrew his statement, which was made under severe and barbaric pression. And that was no hearsay, or media rumor.
dushisimba 1 year ago
@dushisimba Well he said he would give a confession for 1mil$ so why is he willing to confess again if he's not guilty of anything?
Mariiexful 1 year ago
@Mariiexful with all respect, this is a useless conversation.
Remember what was told about Joe Tacopina in the media? It turned out to be not true either.
Please keep on following the media, and all its rumors.
dushisimba 1 year ago
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@cristinadied We only need to investigate the Holloway family and I think we will find all the answers that we were looking for... Beth has been such a greedy exploiter and she needs to be exposed for the crimes that she has done! Beth keeps pretending like she's an angel, actually she has been a very bad mother, nothing else you would expect from somebody who has been arrested for DUI twice!!!
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
We only need to investigate the Holloway family and I think we will find all the answers that we were looking for... Beth has been such a greedy exploiter and she needs to be exposed for the crimes that she has done! Beth keeps pretending like she's an angel, actually she has been a very bad mother, nothing else you would expect from somebody who has been arrested for DUI twice!!!
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
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Stephany's neck was broken. A broken or slit neck is a trademark of local Peruvian gangsters. You should investigate Beth Holloway, she has made millions upon millions from all of this. Look at my video. The real criminal is BETH HOLLOWAY
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
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All of this is so true. there is concrete verifiable documented evidence. Yet it is being censored by the media and gag-ordered by the Holloway family! Beth Holloway has made millions upon millions.. she's a fraud and a criminal!!! All covered up by her corrupt ties to the corrupt US government and FBI personal friends.
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
@ExtractCarrot i al thought this was joran but i am starting to think this is all for money. joran is making money from interviews that he makes up and the holloways are getting paid to 'try and find' natalee. this was just an idea everyone.
AwesomeBosoxfan 1 year ago
@AwesomeBosoxfan Precisely. Beth Holloway has made a huge sum of money. Joran ofcourse tries to make some money also, which in this world has become quite understandable. And there is a big difference. Beth has made over 50$ million and used it to finance her lavish selfish lifestyle. Joran on the other hand barely made any money and the money he does get from interviews is to be able to survive because he can't find a job because his reputation was ruined by Beth Holloway.
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
@ExtractCarrot i guess now he's done it again you realise how stupid you are
rociomerrio 1 year ago
@rociomerrio No point opening a discussion with you.
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
@ExtractCarrot ,
keep on writing Carrot, your Boy's @zz is going to be the biggest
Pinata of Peru.... long life to Beth Holloway :o)))
machete397 1 year ago
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All of this is so true. there is concrete verifiable documented evidence. Yet it is being censored by the media and gag-ordered by the Holloway family!
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
This is the biggest lie and mis representation that could ever be made... completely insulting... The sad thing now is that Joran has killed again and hopefully his asshole gets to me made to look like the Holland tunnel in Manhattan....
Chryz707 1 year ago
This movie is CRAP! 100% Crap! JORDAN was not framed, the Holloways did not make money off of this like this video is saying.
@ indivum I guss Jordan was also framed in this newest murder also!
vandlr1981 1 year ago
@vandlr1981 I wonder in what world your living in??!! of course beth made allot of money and getting anything free on the island. With all those interviews Writing books and making a movie full of LIES!!! Even joran made allot of money
f1r9a8n9k 1 year ago
Who ever made this video is a unmitigated idiot. Who is the video accusing and what are they accusing? It makes no damn sense. Natalee is dead and Joran murdered her. It doesn't take Albert Einstein to figure this one out. Why does Joran keep giving conflicting statements? Maybe because he's guilty as sin? Who ever made this video needs to stop insulting peoples intelligence.
gotch09 1 year ago
This video doesnt really ellaborate on anything and is hearsay at best
sniffy45 1 year ago
Joran was framed
indivum 1 year ago
Well, Joran admits to the crime and now is wanted for rape and murder in Peru. This is all crap as far as the FBI is concerned and we be both!!!
BHHS90210 1 year ago
LOOK THE WEB ....PERU21...
alegria1971 1 year ago
@thedude: are you serious?
dushisimba 1 year ago
is been 5 years and aruba still botched this case up and everyone knows joran Van Der Sloot did it and he is walking free!
thedude19766 1 year ago
@thedude19766 without a body they have no case, as simple as that
BapaoWarrior 1 year ago
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She is not dead. Natalee's parents don't want her to be found because they are making millions of Dollars and have made over $50 million so far off from her disappearance... and guess what... they haven't spend a penny of that money on finding natalee! Aruba has spent all the money on the searches and airplanes to try to find natalee but the holloway family didn't even care to even spend 1 damn dime to search for natalee. instead Beth twitty paid for a facelift and a few nice cars
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
NATALEE HOLD ON!!!
Herman and Catherine
hermanvandijk 1 year ago
seriously, this is the most rediculous thing I have hever watched.
ksgriffith 1 year ago
@ksgriffith AGREED!
lexlaw007 1 year ago
@ksgriffith It's a great documentary... why? because the holloways have made over $50 million off the back of the disappearance of natalee, and haven't spend even 1 dime of it on searching for their daughter, instead used the money to buy cars and a facelift for betty.
ExtractCarrot 1 year ago
whatever...
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Renee Gielen is a Goddess for the truth about Us Media cover up and support for the Twitty family at the expense of the TRUTH! You are great Renee1 Much luv and hugs!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Why was the media coverage ONE SIDED and failed to investigate these kids from Alabama? Or worse when the kids told pepole they wer etold to be quiet by thhe Twity twins mom and her attorney- why did the media not investigate this issue?
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Why did the kids from Alabama actually need a lawyer? I can wonder why Natalee's step Brother and step twins might need a laywer- Family secrets. Why no investigation?? The reason is b/c Aruba has no jurisdiction in Alabama and those kids were already lawyered up! I hope this fact alones keeps no charges from coming fwd in Aruba!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Conflicting statements from Alabama kids: No witnesses state that they saw anything irregular about the event of her leaving. Natalee tells some of her fellow travelers and fellow bar attendees, who inquired about her "well being" outside the bar that she is "ok." Witnesses state that Ms Holloway does not appear to be impaired in any way. She is heard to yell cheerfully, "Woo hoo Aruba!" from the open car window as they depart.
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
This event according to FBI report took place at the Taxi stand by C&C- when Nat put down the window and her friends tried to talk her out of the car and Nats mindset was no- wooohooo Aruba! Seems some kids have selective memory in Alabama
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
FBI Transcripts. Lee Broughton and Nat were roomates at the Holiday Inn. The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was to get an alcohol drink and go to the ocean around 10:00 AM in the morning. At around 5:00 PM they would return to thier room for naps. At 6:00PM Broughton and Holloway would get ready to go out to get dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway would go outto Bars.
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Saturday, May 28, 2005, Holloway became very intoxicated and eventually had to be escorted back to her room by (Kevin Broday?). Why was this Alabama guy not investigated?
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
So hold on, this video claims essentially that the Natalee Holloway disappearance was a black op? I can understand JFK and 9/11 but there is a conspiracy theory about Natalee Holloway? My god.. I need to hear more about this.
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@hermanvandijk We must remember that the US Media has the tendency to Try, Convict and Sentence people in the media! They do so for TV ratings and print media sales. This is a common practice in the States. Many people who are actually convicted in the US media are actually NOT convicted in an actual court room. I was angry with the media arrogance when I was on Aruba. Why did the same US media NOT investigate the Twitty family? Because its not what would promote their pockets!
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
Herman I do care. I care about the truth and about closure for those who have been hurt. I do not wish for anyone to go to hell. Gods wants none to perish and I also want none to perish! I do not believe Natalee is afraid to come forward. Sadly I think she is deceased. I think accidental overdose. She was young and by her friends admission drinking very heavily ALL day. This is ALL very sad.
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
Herman, I pray you are right. I can only wish she would come forward. Jezus is the TRUTH which sets us free! Natalee and so many others need to be set free. Hope my prayers are answered!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
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The Twitty family (now divorced) was never investigated-Why? Thats the first thing in any investigation! You always investigate the missing person and her family (esp since she dated her two counsins by marraige) plus the boys were on that island. There own mother had laywers in alabama airport- WHY? This familiy was never investigated! Now the mothe ris divorced from Jug and shacked up with a child murdere John Ramsey. Not convicted because he is rich! You be fair!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
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Will not argue with you.. He wasa 17 y/o boy who found a 18 y/o girl who let him suck jello shots off her belly. She jumped on a barroom counter top. She made choices as well.. You fail to look at Beth holloway Twitty and that family! She married Jug who had two nephews on Aruba (HS Seniors) and kept silent! Why?????? Beth is now divorced from Jug. She shacks up with the the father and viewed murderer of his daughter Jon Benet Ramsey. This can not be over looked. Lets be Fair!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
The US media loves this story b/c a young white girl dies, and the boy has a dad who is a Judge. Its US media sensationalism!
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
@hermanvandijk I understand friendship. I do not understand what you mean about money? Beth twitty recieved close to a million dollars while in Aruba (charitable donations). Then makes money on TV/radio appearances, book sales. Now married a child murderer John Ramsey! (He is worth 10 million or so)! This really sounds like money to me. Perhaps we see things differently! No Problem!
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hermanvandijk 1 year ago
OK thank You Herman, Now I understand... I have loved my Nine years in retirement on Aruba (about 6 months a year). The people are wondeful and I find this incident not to be one that is typical and feel the Arubans have recieved a bad deal. As an American the people have always been so kind to me and I love it here. I feel safer in Aruba then in the States! I dislike USA Media hype! Peace!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
@ DOCCAREY no prob...oh and right on man, everyone thinks shes a nice girl and a responsible girl...but what she really is, is a f** ing drunk slut who goes on top of every guy...oh and her mom is fucked op in her head! xD
TheMobeydick 1 year ago
Jug twitty's agenda was protecting his brothers kids (his twin nephews)... Now your divorced Jug the looney lady is loose.. poor you!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
i find that its also natalee's fault that she went in this mess, cuz she was drunk...she was so wasted that she went in a strangers car....her parents should have teached her not to drink or at least drink safely so its kind of natalee's FAULT!! to..
TheMobeydick 1 year ago
@TheMobeydick ...I agree mobey! Thanks for your post! Just remember that Natalee will jump on a mobeydick or atleast a barroom counter top allowing guys to lick her belly! She is a "good Christoan Girl"..LMAO!
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@hermanvandijk ..Thanks Herman.. I actually spend 4 to 6 months on the Island of Aruba in retirement. Have done so for Nine years. I know this incident is an isolated incident and not reflective of the great island. I give no respect to the US media. The number one story before 911 was Chandra Levi- a slut who had sex with a US politian and died. It took people flying planes into buildings to get this story off air.
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Dirty Secret! Natalies stepDad Jug Twitty knew his brothers twins (Jugs nephews) were raping Natalie. He paid for her mental health treatment and made sure ALL info was secret. Jug had his brother and his brothers wife arrive in Alabama and laywered up those kids.. Thats the corruption. Its a Good Ole Boy Connection! A southern thing! Thats why Jug Twitty kept his nephews out of the investigation and refused to allow Chief Dompig to question them. Its why the twins refused Arubas Questions
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God Bless Chief Dompig.. He was right to investigate the shitty twitty family... They obstructed his investigation- why? Becaus the twitty twins raped natalie and they were protected by Jug thier Uncle..
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Why did Beth Holloway/Twitty arrive to Aruba before Natalie was reported missing? It is because Thomas & Hunter Twiity who had repetedly raped Natalie called thier mommy from Aruba. Thier mommy called a Laywer and the JUG (Beths hubby).. This is why Jugs family will not release thier phone records. It reveals that they and thier Lawyer knew about Natalies disapearance before she was even reported missing! Its an ALABAMA good ole boy thing! That is why the twitty's played the corruption game
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
I really feel sorry for David Holloway. He knows as well as I do his 'EX flakey" wife put his daughter into a relationship with her new hubbies nephews. Poor Dave Holloway could do nothing living out of state. Plus Beth would never tell him (her EX) about her cute little match making schemes involving Daves Daughter. Natalie was seen by mental health. Not about the bitter divorce, rather about the new twins and boy friends.. Beth has her medical records and refuses to release billing!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Why are no natalie supporters mentioning the sex between natalie and the twitty twins? Why is no one asking for Natalies medical records (mental health) regarding her rape and abortion from the twitty twins? Yes, The twitty twins Uncle Jug "Nats step dad" has his own interest! Is this not why he divorced Beth holloway/twitty? Jug would rather protect his little brothers kids (his twin nephews). They were in his life long before beth of nat were in his life!
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
Is this why The Twitty Twind (Thomas & Hunter) who also were on aruba and dated Natalie left with everyone else? Why did the twins Mom refuse to release thier phone records? Why Did she have a Lawyer in the Alabama airport telling the kids to remain silent?
DOCCAREY 1 year ago
This is pure bullshit. Urine...you're behind this video you piece of shit. you will end up like your daddy soon. IN HELL!
22bailee 1 year ago
paulass you pos I am so glad you will spend eternity rotting in hell !!! You remember how bad you sweated when you got interviewed by Beth and Gretta ??? Well that was your fate !!!
Anita only you can save your pos husband from eternal hell !!! Fess up and tell the truth !!! You and urin are next !!!
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by the way, this movie wazn't maid to prove that joran was inocent, it was made because on the other site! of the backyard, (the parents of nathaly , there was alot of weird things happening that was not normal! just like the things you saw in the video, and also, the mother was partying like hell in Aruba, playing in the casino, going to heineken festival, sitting on the beach drinking, and having a sun bath, and alot more.... sounds crazy bt there's alot more.
TheArubaariba 2 years ago
if any of you has any questions i'll be happy to answer i was here when it all happens, and im not taking site for aruba, neither for joran neither for the states.... im just trying to tell the truth here, so please don't disrespect me or anyone, cause i haven't disrespect any of you. :)
TheArubaariba 2 years ago
it maybe sounds crazy for you americans, cause you've never lived on the island and you don't know this, but this is realy true, that's why all the press!! for the missing girl so that everyone around the world could se and think that was the reason they sende all those f-16 to "search" our tourist rating is booming 2009 was a record! of all times! so it hazn't cause aruba anything, all the american living here know the truth i feel sry that your guys out there haven't heard the truth
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So, what's the truth about the girl?
psychonavigator79 2 years ago
the same thing that happend alot of years ago!! in japan, the american missing girl! that was the reason why america could of go near japan the search the "missing" girl and they sended alot of spy to japan, search on google you'll find it. this is the same thing, venezuela wants to take aruba over and causing alot of other prob. this is why the "missing" girl, they sended alot of f-16 to fly over aruba to search for the "girl" but in reality they where flying over venezuela taking pic etc
TheArubaariba 2 years ago
i don't wanna disrespect anyone in the states, but you guys haven't heard the real story, cnn, nbc, dr.phil, nancy grace, they all let you saw what they wanted you to see, it was all about rating in the states, this is realy why the case was not solved, this has nothing to do with nathalee , it's about the relation ship between usa and holland. their are some thing happening here in the caribb. that usa and holland is going to fix, it has to do with venezuela, that's why the "missing" girl
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I DON'T SEE WHAT ANY OF THIS PROOVES
thesoapmaker1 2 years ago
A phony doc. full of proven LIES !!
And that`s the TRUTH.
Justice4Natalee 2 years ago
inderdaad, wat als America nou eens een hendje heeft geholpen met het verduisteren van deze zaak? om zo de relatie met nederland ongeschonden te houden?
en trouwens met die camera's, nee gaat niet werken. Dat heeft 2 keer eerder met joran én van der eem weinig 'hard' bewijsmateriaal opgeleverd.
ConradJacob 2 years ago
Interessante hypothese. Moet toch een TV zender te vinden zijn die het lef heeft om de auto van Beth Twitty (nu Beth Reynolds) vol te bouwen met camera's en tracking systeem net zo lang tot ze in een onbewaakt moment per ongeluk aan iemand prijs geeft dat zij wel degelijk op de hoogte is van de echte wijze van Nathalee's verdwijning. Op telefoon en woonadres meeluisteren in Alabama zal ongetwijfeld genoeg bewijsmateriaal opleveren om deze mensen voorgoed achter de tralies te doen laten belanden.
KEESBOERSTRA 2 years ago