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  • Respect

  • i have always wanted to see footinge of hockey played at the chicago colesium thanks.

  • thanks for uploading how beautiful!!! makes me respect the game even more!!

  • 1:40 I always assumed they had some sort of wagon that cleaned the ice. But wow, that's what they did back then?

  • The Zamboni was the "WOW" moment of this video

  • Wouldn't this video be so cool in colour HD

  • can i call you grandpa, thanks for uploading !

  • @johnmeyer how old are you? i wasnt even born in the 60's and how did u transfer it, wasnt the camera different back then?

  • @MrJustinbiebersucks I am 59. This was taken with a 16mm movie camera. Video wasn't invented until the 1930s, and wasn't regularly broadcast until the late 1940s. Video wasn't available for home use until around 1980. So, between 1920 and 1980, all moving pictures were taken on film with movie cameras, either 16mm, 8mm, or Super8.

    I transfer all movie film using modified projectors that display each frame in a way that the video camera captures one frame of film onto one frame of video.

  • how did you get this footage? and thanks for uploading it

  • @MrJustinbiebersucks I transferred it for a girl I knew back in the 60s. It was taken by her grandfather. He also took the 1929 Cubs World Series footage that you can find on my YouTube page.

  • Hey!

    We have released the second teaser for the film. Based off of the responses we receive, we will determine the project's outcome. So please take a look:

    Thanks

    Unbeleafablefilm

  • @TheWitchOvAgnesi = No problem. I will definately pass along any info I get. Thanks.

  • Hello. Would anybody know where it would be possible to see the full video (as this looks just like the highlights) or any other hockey games from this era? Thanks in advance

  • @b4bhc I think this was from a home video collection (i.e. made by an individual) so I don't think there is any more to be seen.

    But I too am searching for clips of games from this era (not for anything besides personal interest though). If you get a lead, kindly pass on the info to me and I'll do the same.

  • What a great piece of history!

  • Wow what a find!

  • Does anyone recognise anyone?

  • @jannyrcobs I can give you a few Leaf players. #6 Ace Bailey, #7 Joe Primeau, #9 Harvey "Busher" Jackson, #10 Charlie Conacher (with ball cap) #16 Red Horner.

  • Could I get this footage on QT or m4v or mpeg for a Hockey presentation? It's great.

  • @bobgill88videos This is not my footage. I transfer movies to video for clients and then, with their permission, post to YouTube. I need their permission for any further usage of their footage. On their behalf, I have licensed many of the films posted on my site. For commercial use, there is a licensing fee.

  • Notice how some of the players wore baseball caps at that time?

  • Amazing find! This is great. THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!!!!

  • This is so dang cool!! Thanks for posting such an amazing video!

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  • They're playing Toronto

  • Not really sure who they're playing here. It's not the St. Pats, as they were the Leafs by that time. It's not the Chicago Shamrocks as they came into existence in 1930. This MIGHT be the Leafs they're playing as they used a plain white sweater with a blue leaf in the middle back then, although the arm stripes aren't supposed to be there. None of the other NHL team sweaters of the time really match up. Then again, it might just be one of the myriad of amateur or professional teams of that era.

  • This is some crazy stuff, didn't know the regular joe could get their hands on one. Person must have been wealthy.

  • Thanks for this upload...And you notice the Vicious Crosscheck/High Stick at 1:26..that would have definitely have been a minor or Game misconduct today..but a No call them...yeah they were tough

  • This was great footage!!!

    Looks like the players actually stood still untill they got the puck.

    ....and those men in the end sweeping the ice, never actually seen how that was done before they had those ice machines.....

  • jesus christ this video is as old as my grandpa...

  • not to be mean, but was the sound lost in time? Or did the cameras back then not record sound? I would like to know, i hope you don't think i'm a hater for saying this, I just want to know.

  • @12395294 Home movie cameras never had sound, even those manufactured in the 1960s and 1970s, at the end of the home movie era (video cameras became available around 1980).

  • @12395294 You're not being mean at all in fact it is a very reasonable question. Motion picture cameras as a rule did not record sound. Sound was nearly always recorded on a separate device and then synced to picture in editing. In 1929 sound movies were only 2 years old. I suspect that the earliest audio recording devices were not that portable. Are you aware that most of the film footage shot in WW2 was shot MOS or "without sound"? In most of the WW2 shows stock sound was added later.

  • They forgot to draw the trapezoid area behind the net.

  • No Zamboni around during this time.  Just huge corn brooms.

  • I've done a little research, and I don't think this is the Blackhawks in this footage. In their first couple of seasons in the NHL, they did play in the Chicago Coliseum. They were supposed to move into Chicago Stadium for the 1928-1929 season, so they let their lease at the Coliseum run out. However, Chicago Stadium was not ready yet, so they were forced to play most of their home games in Fort Erie, Ontario. This is according to the book "Ultimate Hockey".

  • @bluebear1985 the darker jerseys resemble what the black hawks had, Ottawa and Montreal Canadien's jerseys are also close to it and Boston. Nobody else had similar stripes back then. The "white" though, doesn't resemble anything I know from the other 7 teams in the league at that time.

  • they are playing the DETROIT COUGARS, the date is either december 19 1929, or january 6, 1929.

  • Minor penalty, #7, high sticking

  • they're playing the st.patrick's it looks like. old defunct team

  • @jdoolsiu If is is the St Patricks, then it is the previous name of the Toronto Maple Leafs which changed to the Leafs in 1927-1928 season.

  • @jdoolsiu if it is the St Patricks, then it is the name the Toronto Maple Leafs called themselves before adapting the Leafs name in the 1927-1928 season

  • @jdoolsiu The St. Pat's became the Maple Leafs.

  • Wow, That's incredible, thanks johnmeyer77.

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  • And not one fight!

  • 0:7: Eddie Shore?? 

  • No Herculite plate glass in those days.The refs could really hear the fans through the wire mesh.

  • 0:48: The almost fell on his rear. And yet there is no one around him...

  • @Forsure3333 he went first overall that year as well.

  • It`s been a few years since that game. Where is Bobby Hull?

  • you gotta love the human zambonis at the end...great stuff

  • they won the cup today so i'm sure that they'll be asking for this footage if they haven't already.

  • They had home movies? These people must have been rich.

    This is FANTASTIC!

  • It's the Chicago Shamrocks, and this footage is more than likely from 1930 as the Shamrocks did not take to the ice until then.

  • This is amazing who are they playing ? The Maroons ???

  • Holy crap! It's Chris Chelios!

  • @gobears1987 HAHAHAHA!

  • @gobears1987 Dude...THAT is funny!!!

  • Please leave the identification to the historians. We can easily deduce that this is the Chicago Shamrocks and there is absolutely no way that any NHL club played in that match if they were involved.

    The Shamrocks were in the centre of a Stanley Cup territorial battle and as a result the NHL did everything they could to run the AHL out of town. The NHL eventually gave Shamrock's owner James Norris the Red Wings on condition that he fold the Shamrocks.

  • I am a lifelong Hockey Memories guy . i have never seen that footage before it is wonderful . It emotes afeeling what it must have been like back then a time i have always wonder about after having read about it so many times as a young lad . Thanks Dude

  • A little high sticking at 1:28 ! Great piece of history I loved the Cubs World Series film and the Bears you posted also !

  • I cant tell who the opposition team is . Is it the Montreal Maroons ?

  • simple..... super cool

  • johnmeyer77, you are probably Chicago's foremost sports archivist! Please tell us something about this grandfather!

  • The granddaughter of the man who took these, posted this on my 1929 World Series YouTube video: "John found these in my grandfather's 16 mm home movies, while transfering them. My grandfather was George J. Nikolas (1893-1968) who lived in River Forest, IL (suburb of Chicago)and was a lifelong Cubs' fan. At least he got to see them in a World Series! Can't thank John enough for finding these treasures. "

  • They are priceless pieces of history. Thanks for posting!

  • Wow, awesome footage! Thanks for posting this!

  • where did u find this footage?

  • I answered that in the message immediately below.

  • I googled the uni, thats deffinately the Blackhawks in the dark uni and the Chicago shamrocks in white...What a treasure, I hope the Hockey hall of fame has a copy. Where did you find this?

  • This was taken by the grandfather of my 7th grade girlfriend. It is 16mm B&W film. I invented a frame-by-frame transfer machine and transferred this reel of "1929 Sports" film. This contained film of the Chicago Cardinals football team; the Chicago Bears football team; and the 1929 Game 1 World Series game between the Cubs and Philadelphia Athletics. It was an amazing find.

  • @johnmeyer77 it sure was, you should contact both the Blackhawks and the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto

  • The Hockey Hall of Fame was all over this not long after I posted it several years ago. With permission of the woman who owns the film, I sent them a high-res version of this footage, so they do indeed have it. The Blackhawks have shown no interest, although the Cubs and the Chicago TV stations both have requested the 1929 World Series footage and, with permission, I sent that to them.

  • @johnmeyer77 Wow, that is great! :)

  • Great historical footage. Yet, if these are home movies, I am wondering what rich man owned a 35 mm camera back then. The average Joe was lucky if his black and white Brownie Hawkeye camera worked in the arena's low lighting. NO slap shots. Skating was in long, smooth strides & the passes were often long, too. The closing shot of men cleaning the ice made me wonder if, in addition to clearing the "snow" if they used wet brooms to help resurface the ice. They did dump wheeled water barrels.

  • A 35mm camera would indeed have been rare, but these are actually 16mm movies. While owning such a camera was somewhat expensive, it didn't require too much money, and many people had them.

    My dad's father had such a camera back in 1929, the same year this film was taken.

  • You've taught me something new...That a movie camera was available to the general public on the scale that you describe, not to mention the quality that I see here, is something I would not have thought likely before circa1950s. Your grandfather was a very talented and perceptive cameraman. Simply put: People saw a lot of movies does not equal understanding why they turn out well. Hope players, etc. will contact you who were tied to this game! "Does the NHL/Antiques Road Show know about you!"

  • Didn't anybody play the body in those days?

  • The game of hockey is so much faster nowadays. You would never see a defenseman standing still during a breakaway today.

  • is this part of the roswell footage? sorry wrong video...

  • Yeah it's probably the chicago shamrocks

  • Got to love the 2 human Zamboni's at the end of the clip........great technique..reminds me of when we used to get to watch the Oyen Clippers (senior hockey) games for free if we would scrape the ice between periods with wooden scrapers with a strip of flat iron bolted to the base........round and round until the snow was piled down centre of ice and then pushed in unison down to end of rink then shoveled over the boards

  • Actually now that I look at it again , it could be the St.Louis Flyers vs the Chicago Shamrocks. As the Flyers had uniforms similar to the New York Americans and also played in the American Hockey Association.

  • For old time hockey fans, google BritishPathe, and type in the search NYR vs Mont. Canadiens, and you will see a 1936 film with sound.

  • I am looking this up, and that logo in question is DEFINITELY the insignia for the New York Americans, in existance from 1926-1942 (their last one being named the Brooklyn Americans). They have the unique distinction of the only team to be owned by a bootlegger, Big Bill Dwyer.

  • That's really useful stuff. I've been trying to figure this out for the past two years. I just re-obtained the film and am transferring it in HD, so perhaps I'll be able to get a little more detail on the logo.

  • All I did was take a look at some articles on WIkipedia, and considering the outline of the logo that is visible in this footage, it sure seems like the Americans to me.

  • Just go onto googloe images and look up chicago shamrocks, its the same jerseys and logo

  • wow!

  • was that Chelios with the puck @ 1:24

  • Enlarge and pause at 30s, youll clearly see this was a shamrock and not a mple leaf. as a previous post says its likely the chicago shamrocks and blackhawks playing an exhibition game, and not the toronto maple leafs.

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  • Or the Toronto St. Pats.

  • I love the arrogance that some people have to think that they could be the 'best player' playing against these old pros.

    Regardless of my curmudgeon status, this is a wonderful historical video, thank you for sharing!

  • that was the hawks? it looked more like the old ottawa senators

  • I could play in this game and be the best player by far rofl. It's amazing how much the skill in the game has progressed.

  • this is amazing!

  • At 1:15, I can make out a maple leaf on the front of the white jersey. The old Chicago Stadium was opened in 1929.

    Place looks pretty empty back then.

  • Not a maple leaf,

    its a shamrock!

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  • No helmets, very little padding, these guys were tough SOBs. The guys at the end had the longest hockey sticks I have ever seen(ha ha).

  • @delmer221 well... at that time slapshot didn't exist, the speed was low and collisions relatively mild... so yeah, dangerous but not as much as it would be to play hockey nowadays...

  • AMAZING footage, thank you!!!

  • what are they doing at 1:43

  • They didn't always have Zambonis. That's the closest thing to resurfacing they had at the time.

  • human zambonis

  • is this before forward passing was legal?

  • Is that a high stick at 1:26? So the officials back there were as blind as they are today? :)

    This is really fantastic footage.

  • It's not the Hamilton Tigers eather. The stripes on the sleeves remind me the ones on the Maple Leafs jersey.

  • It's not Detroit. I'm too intrigued...

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  • The other team looks like the Detroit Cougars, but I'm really not sure. I must check in my books.

  • A very valuable clip.

  • it's crazy to think while this footage was shot....Al Capone was the most notorious man in the city

  • this is an amazing video. thanks for posting it

  • That is ridiculously awesome! Wow, how rare to see guys which we hear about and see on baseball cards in action! Like taking a warp back into time. Thanks for sharing this!

  • Awesome historical clip! The first 30 some odd seconds it looks like a game between Eddie Shore/Dit Clapper's Bruins and the Blackhawks. The last part of the video...it ain't the Maple Leafs! The Leaf logo is much bigger on the jersey. With those in doubt that this video is from 1929....it's from the right era....Bruins only wore that jersey in the late 20's and in the 30's they had a "B" on the jersey.

  • this is amazing footage GO CAPS LIGHTNING BRUINS AND FLYERS!!!!!

  • Blackhawks rule!

  • GO BLUES!

  • was that their way of cleaning the ice with those big brooms

  • Yeah it's the New York Americans, they folded in 1942.

  • It couldn't be the Toronto St. Pats, since the St. Pats changed their name to the Toronto Maple Leafs in 1927 and this is 1929.

    Great footage.

  • look at those ice cleaners near the end, unbelievable. fantastic footage

  • Ain't that the Toronto St. Pats? Who are the Chicago Shamrocks?

  • Blackhawks were playing against the New York Americans.

  • Awesome video

  • Thanks for the great post.

    Looks like they're playing the Detroit Cougars. This was their last full season at the Coliseum.

  • No - the opponent, as others have said, appears to be the Chicago Shamrocks.

  • Great piece of history!

  • nice to see an old clip from 1929

  • first thing i thought was torono, in the light jerseys *shrug*

    cool video, thanks for posting

  • thats what I thought....the logo almost looked like the Florida Panthers (!)

    the dark colored jerseys I assumed to be the Black Hawks since they had the red jerseys with black stripes in the middle but it looked more like the Montreal Canadiens...

    this footage should definitely be in the Hall of Fame in Toronto

  • --> this footage should definitely be in the Hall of Fame in Toronto

    They contacted me and, with the permission of the owner, I sent to them the DVD with the high-res footage.

  • Great footage. Would have been great to see a game in 1929. Just make sure to sell all your stocks in September and buy Treasury bills!!

  • Dark team might be the Kansas City Pla-Mors. Regardless, gotta love the ol' time hockey.

  • First thirty seconds look like Blackhawks and the Bruins, maybe? But afterwards, some Googling suggests that the team in white is the Chicago Shamrocks of the American Hockey Association. Don't know who the dark team is.

  • Great video!

  • Upon further review I think that maybe Tito1701 is right. They do look like the Canadians. It's still pretty cool.

  • That is a great video! Thanks for posting! I love the guys sweeping at the end. I think that the other team might be the Toronto Maple Leafs. Their jerseys changed in 1927 from the St. Pats green to the white and blue.

  • I think that maybe theyre the Canadiens

  • wow, thats gotta be chicago with another original 6 team. this is sweet. its where the nhl all began.

  • oh that is some great footage. just awsome...

    oh and lets congradulate bill wirtz for dropping dead. the hawks can now make the playoffs.. good times are on their way. thanks bill for finally getting the hell out of town.

  • seriously uncalled for you jag off.

  • wow. your mad. get over it. you now, i bet as a person wirtz was probably a very nice man. as an owner, he needed to drop dead or sell. and you know he wasnt going to sell. there was now way the hawks were going anywhere but below the gutter. i know it and i know you know it. its sad he had to go that way he should have sold. it is what it is.

  • Allright, I can agree with that, it was just a bit cold how you put it at first. I mean the man had family, but oh well, now it's time for the winning ways coming back to the hopefully once again SOLD OUT UC someday.

  • SWEET THAT IS SO INTENSE!

  • i love the hawks!go blackhawks!

  • Great archival material . I Bet King Clancy is in there somewhere. I was looking for someone very short and feisty. Thanks for sharing this for all to view..

  • Amazing stuff. Thanks! Do you have any more?

  • No more hockey, but I posted Chicago Cardinals football and the Chicago Cubs World Series from the same year (1929).

  • I'm sure thie was the Hawks vs the leafs. Once at the old Chicago Stadium I sat next to a little old Gentleman named Harold "Mush" March who scored the winning goal in one of the Hawks Stanley Cups back in the 30's...let me tell you this guy played with some of the greatest players ever like Howie Morenz, the Bentley Brothers, Charlie Conacher, and Georges Vezina....so many great stories!

  • It might actually be the Canadiens because they once wore a maple leaf on their jersey.

  • Not in 1929.

  • amazing. i'm shocked at how well they skate also. but i've seen footage of howie morenz, so i guess i shouldn't be that surprised.

  • The Shamrocks defense needs to do a better job of covering the point. (just kidding) thanks for posting this clip.

  • This was certainly a Home game for the Blackhawks, because it wasn't televised!!!! Thanks Mr. Wirtz!

  • incredible

  • Wow. This is old. I liked this quite nicely.

  • This is incredible! Never seen this much old footage in one sitting. Practically all of these guys are dead, even the freaking fans!

  • Nowhere near the violence of today because of the lack of protective gear.

  • incredible footage!

  • This is awesome. I like the ice sweepers at the end. Also at about 1:29 in the video the crosscheck to the face. I am not sure about the teams. i thought it was the Blackhawks and the Maple Leafs it's hard to tell.

  • Cool video, I can't believe how well these guys skate on those old style skates.

  • Yes hockeyguy44, I believe you are right. If it those are the Chicago Shamrocks playing the Hawks, then it must be an exhibition game. Also, this might have been a game inside the old Chicago Coliseum. Note how the first passerelle is only about 10 rows up. I think Chicago Stadium was much higher than that, but I'm really not sure. Just doesnt seem like the old Stadium.

  • This is not from 1929.  I believe it is from 1930, and the opponent is the Chicago Shamrocks of the AHA.

  • 1929 was the year the Chicago Stadium opened (possibly in March). October was the huge stock market crash and the onset of the Great Depression.

  • --> 1929 was the year the Chicago Stadium opened.

    Yes, None of us are sure whether this is in the Stadium or the Coliseum. Also, if you look at the 1929 Cubs World Series footage I posted on Youtube, you'll realize that it was taken less than two weeks before the crash. Poor suckers ...

  • Gotta love the 'no advertisements' on the boards, eh?

  • According to proicehockey, ads didn't appear until 1978-1979, so you don't have to go quite as far back as 1929 to see "clean boards."

  • Up here in Canada, you rarely even saw the ads (they didn't want to give free advertising on TV, as I recall, so they were only on one side of the ice) until around 1989.

  • yeah its kind of nice but I kind of like the advertisements on the boards, it gives you something to look at.

  • Amazing

  • yeah this is amazing

  • the first 30 seconds seems to be the boston bruins down ice.