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  • All you fucking idiots saying the jews brainwashed everyone should die for calling all the US GI's liars after what they did for us and what THEY saw when they liberated the camps....FUCK ALL OF YOU SHITBAGS

  • is it fair to compare a modern crematorium with proper filter system to compare a war time instrument to burn dead bodies?

    So many so call expert in any field now (medicine archeology)

    talk as if they are eye witness to history

  • To those who talk about burning in pits: It is the most inefficient (idiotic) way to try and burn anything but liquids, simply because of the need for the fire to freely suck in air.

    When there is a destruction of animals due to some outbreak, have anyone seen them burned in a pit?

    In addition, fatty bodies will burn much faster and better simply because they provide their own fuel (fat) while starved bodies are resilient to being consumed by fire, especially the bones.

    Just how it is.

  • I have read documents from Auschwitz, describing the problems with the ovens, having an expert there as consultant, development, the costs of this, the ovens, maintenance, fuel..

    How they found that it is not faster to burn more than one body at a time, hours of cooling before anyone could replace cracked bricks - and one cracked brick can cause a lot of damage, in other words a long series of difficulties, testing and worries about the costs.

    Why this, when clubs and crows cost nothing?

  • There is no odor in a mortuary cremation because there is an afterburner, the gasses coming off the burning corpse, are then burned again.

  • wow i had an interview with one of the holocaust survivours and he said it was this bad, he couldn't even show the pictures of jews getting killed because of the gore and sorrow :{

  • The fact is that they only have 4 kinds of "evidence" for the so called holocaust:

    1. Confessions extracted by means of torture (crushed testicles etc.)

    2. Eyewitness accounts which contradict each other and the laws of physics so often that no court would take them seriously.

    3. Badly forged documents no court would even look at.

    4. Pictures and things like lots of hair taken out of context.

    Such evidence equals no evidence, the witch trials in the dark ages were based on such "evidence"

  • @MegaFlatEarth Anti semite history denier.

  • That the vast majority of Jews interned survived the camps is clear from both simple observation and authoritative population statistics, including those of official Jewish origin. Details appear in the book "The Dissolution of Eastern European Jewry" by Walter N. Sanning

  • Conscientious historians, including some Jews, are now agonizing over the realization that the "gassing of six million Jews" could NOT have taken place, that this legend is a gigantic, self-serving hoax and that it could never survive scientific analysis.

    For this reason, elaborate measures are needed to protect it: open discussion must be stifled, strict censorship imposed and "Holocaust Denial" made a criminal offense.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234

    Okay, so at least you get that not all Jews are Zionists. It's time to start using correct terminology if you want anyone to understand your cause.

    I'm still not convinced of your holocaust related opinion. Holocausts have happened. The Armenian holocaust, the killing fields, Rwanda, etc.,

  • @jelinto

    "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth.

    The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge - even to ourselves - that we've been so credulous."

    -Carl Edward Sagan

    Keep Researching, that is all I can ask.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234

    Fair enough.

  • I can't help but feel that many people's dislike of the Jews is misdirected. It's the Zionists that people should be against. Some will say they are one in the same. To that I say, not necessarily. Not all Jews are Zionists...

    watch?v=qI643PzQvuY

    ...and not all Zionists are Jews.

    And believe me, NO well connected Zionists died in the camps.

    Nowadays, the powerful Zionists hide behind the Jewish faith and cry, "You're an anti-Semite" if anyone criticizes them. It's a trick...

  • @jelinto

    If people dislike "some" Jews it is typically because of their individual behaviors.

    The Frauds, Deceit, Chicanery, Coarsening of society, Destruction of cultures etc. IF Jews are smart they would immediately start distancing themselves from The Holocaust™ dogma and STOP putting scholars or other in prison for questioning this account of history.

    Look at Israel - and the genocide Zionist Jews ARE COMMITTING right now.

    For every ACTION their is ALWAYS a reaction.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234

    Like I said, there ARE Jews who distance themselves from it, and I even provided a video link to prove it. That's why I think it's important to distinguish the Zionists Jews from those who aren't. Here's a link that proves that not all Zionists are Jews...

    watch?v=-8FClxsLDVg

    And yes, many Jews have adopted Zionist ideals, they've been brainwashed, they've become that which they despise and they're being used as pawns by the powerful Zionists.

  • ....and the foundation for the trick was laid down long ago before and during WWII.

  • Help me understand this point of view.

    I've seen the old footage from the camps. I've seen the film footage of emaciated bodies being thrown into mass graves.

    If the awful smell was coming from crematoriums or just bodies rotting in the open air...

    watch?v=0q3tbiFpbQw

    ...what difference does it make?

    Is it a revisionists position that the holocaust didn't happen at all, or is it the 6 million figure that is the issue. In which case, if it were only a half million, is it any less horrific?

  • @jelinto well said - one man murdered equates to a million if it is unjustly done or inthe name of racism. I beleive theholocaust happened. Why would anyone make it up!

  • @puregloster

    Israel was founded on the basis of the atrocity WAR propaganda, misnamed- The Holocaust™. Zionist Jews even attempted to claim 6 Million Jews DIED during WWI to establish Israel but people were better read back then and these FALSE claims didn't stick. Jews and the racist military state Israel have collected Billions in total reparations from this Orwellian FRAUD with no end in sight.

  • @jelinto

    Photos DO NOT PROVIDE ACTUAL PROOF of an extermination policy, nor will you ever see the numbers of bodies required for a six million Jewish death total. Keep in mind these War-time causalities pictured were NOT exclusively Jewish.

    How did these people really DIE? What does the forensic evidence support? Disease and starvation brought on by collapse of Germany's infrastructure AT THE END of the WAR or genocidal death policy by homicidal gas chambers?

    FYI THE FORMER NOT THE LATTER.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234

    ...Secondly, it has also been well documented that German civilians were rounded-up from nearby towns and forced to tour the camps to see the atrocities carried out in their name.

    watch?v=zaCdKwFcHnw

    These people certainly did not look like they were anywhere near a stage of suffering from disease and starvation as a result of the collapse of Germany's infrastructure.

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  • @jelinto

    Look at the pictures of the happy liberated concentration camps. There are PLENTY of pictures of inmates that were NOT emaciated and appear to be healthy that were also in the camps.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234 There are plenty more photographs showing emaciated prisoners though. What was the story with them? Hunger strikes maybe? Good grief!!

  • @rocketrod1960

    TRUTH is a radical idea to an INDOCTRINATED mind.

    For the intellectually honest I suggest they actually start INVESTIGATING what Revisionists have discovered.

    Here is a good article The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

    By Theodore J. O'Keefe

  • @rocketrod1960 Your post is old, but I will reply: If you see a picture of a polarbear in Sahara, does this mean there are polarbears in Sahara?

    If you watch a sci-fi movie, does this mean that space ships and aliens exists?

    Does Godzilla exist? Mutant ninja turtles?

    You were not present when these pictures was taken/made, and how can you know exactly who, where and when? The point is: there was mass starvation right next door to the east: a huge supply of starved corpses.

  • @jelinto

    These very same "type of photos" of emaciated dead bodies can be found to be apart of the historical record AT THE END of the Civil War in America from various prison camps. Was there an extermination policy going on then, too? NO . . .this is simply the result of WAR and the total destruction of ALL infrastructure, the collapse of a currency and lack all necessary food, medicine and supplies needed to survive.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234

    Well, thank-you for your reply. However, I have a couple of issues with it.

    First, while I will agree that not all the victims were Jewish, it has been well documented that in Nazi Germany & Mussolini's Italy, Jews were selectively removed from the rest of society, before that their businesses & homes defaced with graffiti and discrimination towards them encouraged...

  • @jelinto

    NOT ALL German Jews were "selectively removed" from the rest of society. It was the political Jews and Communist Jews that were.

    " Judea Declares WAR on Germany" March 24, 1933 (Six years BEFORE WWII ) WHEN the war finally came these Jews (NOT ALL Jews) and their families were placed into work camps.

    We did the same thing in America WE interned into camps some Japanese, some Germans some Italian and European American citizens during WWII.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234 "It was the political Jews and Communist Jews that were."

    Wrong. It wasn't Jews of any power. Read my other comments.

  • one of the first things the Soviets did after driving the Germans out of Poland was to ruthlessly stamp out THE ANTI-NAZI Polish underground. Yes, America's beloved allies...allies of the most murderous ideology in all of human history. Not a single Stalinist torturer, concentration-camp commandant. or executioner has EVER been placed on trial for communist atrocities. Who controlled Auschwitz upon its liberation and imposed their habitual code of secrecy?

  • everyone, JOIN "rodoh". the REAL OPEN DEBATE ON THE HOLOCAUST!!!

    rodohforum.yuku.com/

  • "[...] camps were first presented as those in Germany, such as Dachau, Belsen, Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen, and Dora, but it was demonstrated that there had been no systematic extermination in those camps. Attention was then moved on to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Chelmno, Jonowska, Tarnow, Ravensbruck, Mauthausen, Brezeznia, and Birkenau, which does not exhaust the list that appears to have been extended as needed." -- Columbia University professor Harry Elmer Barnes

  • If they speak the truth - simply throw them in Jail.

    easy peasy

    gotta keep the myth alive

  • google Doe's Account.

  • the jews love to overwrite the historical figures of their enemies thru dissemination of ripoff versions. The fake bible figures were created to overwrite actual Egyptians such as Amenemhet=Abraham, Tuthmosis=Moses and Imhotep=Joseph. The ten commandments were disseminated to overwrite the Code of Hammurabi. The bogus WW2 holocaust was disseminated to overwrite the actual genocides done to the american indians, west african slaves, Congolese, Ukrainians, Japanese (WW2) and Germans (WW2).

  • How much wood was used to burn one body? Sevaral Bodies? What kind of timber industry did Germany have for this agenda?

  • @3shacks1house I don't believe one needs wood to burn a body. I can burn any animal without it.

  • @PoliticalPars you sound a bit spookey to me!?!

  • This man is in jail!!! In jail for speaking to us like this right now. How do you feel to know people are controlling what you think! And they want us to believe in the holocaust, do they also want us to shed a tear, or turn a blind eye as they rape the world.

  • Hang in there Mr Zundel, March isn't that far away. I am with you, Kamerad! The day of atonement is drawing nigh!

    HAIL LUTHER! HAIL HITLER!

    HAIL CHRIST!

  • @Renttuli, you obviously cared enough to comment. Thank you buddy, your support is cherished...

  • I have been to Dachau, seen the ovens and believe they did use them to cremate bodies. But the numbers DO NOT ADD UP!! Especially during the last few years of war due to the lack of coal. Yes thats right! They used coal to fire the ovens in the early years, then wood in the latter years which took more than 8 hours per body. Did they kill jew? YES! was it 6 million? No. Did they experiment on prisoners? Yes! Course you don't mind it when they use information gained then to save lives today!

  • @roughcutone2 While 6 million were probably not "felled" by gassing+cremation, does quantity really matter? If deaths are referred to as a number, it is a statistic, no more. When individuals are mentioned, it is a tragedy. The other thing i want to point out that revisionists conveniently ignore is the practice in which the ovens used at the camps were operated. These ovens were hastily built, and were used to dispose of people that they despised, do you really think they cared HOW they were---

  • @thinkpad411 Good comment, bro.

  • @roughcutone2 ---burned? I seriously doubt that any of the ovens were functioning to defined "specifications" for hearth temperature etc. while operating. They were built to last what, a couple years at most provided they were re-sealed/maintained at regular intervals and properly? The holocaust had the war not brought down the Reich, would have tooken maybe 5-10 years to kill and dispose of the estimated 11 million Jews present.

  • My Bad it did say who he was

  • Having che guevara avatars as friends, and accusing someone for lack of wits is really HILARIOUS

  • And not responding directly to a post in a sophmoric attempt to last word is pathetic :)

    But then. . .who's keepin' score. . really!

    Better luck next time Neopolitan.

    BTW - have you figured it out yet??

  • ive figured out that you are a jewish Bolshevik

  • ROFL. . . nice try. . .but N. Ga. redneck.

    Wow. . .how does it make you feel to know that a good ole American country bumpkin hick has a much better education in engineering than stupid assed racists such as yourself??

  • Minor crematories only feating 4 bodies at a time maximum...

    Those numbers the jews are presenting are ludicrous, they are changing their story every 2 years, they are changing the numbers that supposidly died, from 4 millions to 1,5 millions ,when they are asked were are the BODIES, (they were reduced ti asshes!) this is hilarious millions of bodies rudused to ashes by few guards without specialized equipment and with no FUELS available to such an immense task.

  • The alleged burnings of bodies were impossible in the open air pits, because the groundwater was too high. The 46 cremation oven muffles of Birkenau could have burned ~138,000 bodies altogether due to the durability of the durability of the firebrick of the ovens (3000 burnings per muffle + 24,000 in the main camp), all in all ~162,000. The max daily burning capacity of the ovens was 624-1040 and according to cremation expert Ivan Lagace, only 184. (Google: vho The Crematoria Ovens of Auschwitz)

  • Here we have another fire brick expert.

    Can you explain to be Nokikov why the firebrick used in the blast furnaces of the day could withstand the heat 24/7??

    How about on locomotives that were in use even 100 yrs prior . . .how come they could withstand constant use??

    All firebrick has ratings on the amount of sustained heat it can take, It all depends upon the amount of alumina doping in the brick

    FURTHER, there is also "insulation brick' which is more ceramic, even higher temps!!

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  • relax jewish Bolshevik you are getting even more ridiculous than your self

  • Yeah, I'm still chillin' just waitng for an educated answer.

  • Every scientist and common sense can confirm that open pits on watery soil have NO chance burning millions of bodies... it is ridiculous and propaganda for idiots. The samples from the so called gas chambers are free from syclon b traces. The answer of the jewish infected and ruled world? Imprison who ever dared to find such finds, the whole issue is a ridiculous demonstration of jewish POWER ,nothing else

  • And so. . .YOU'RE the one saying that . . .MILLIONS of bodies were desposed of in that manner.

    BWAH!!!. . .that pretty ridiculous propaganda right there.

    Yet again. . .no educated discussion into the subject matter here. Only opinionated conjecture.

    Neopolitan. . .I don't make a habit of engaging in a war of wits with one who is so apparently unarmed. Have a nice life!

  • Again more lies and misleading. Gas chamber expert Leuchter was quite right and he has been proven correct. There is no cyanide residues in alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' (morgues and morgue cellars). There is as much residue as in inmate barracks. There is 1000 times more Zyklon B residues in disinfestation gas chambers. No Zyklon B residues, no 'Holocaust'. (Google: vho The Rudolf Report; also google vho Dissecting the Holocaust)

  • Also Nokikov. . give us brief explanation of Luechters collection methods and the form in which he presented it to Jim Roth (the lab analyst).

    Now. . be honest here, because there are factual documents on this written by Mr. Roth himself.

  • It was really quite fair. The samples he drew(scraped) were taken by the same inexperieced hand at both "gas chambers and delousing rooms" he didnt indicate what he hoped to find in order to keep the "demand characterstics" out of the findings. Nevrtheless..concentrations were higher in non toxic delousing room.

  • was this the same kind of crematorium expert was fred leuchter the gas chamber expert, with the highly necessary bachelor of arts degree!!!

  • Fred Leucther wasn;'t a crematoria expert, this was Ivan Lagace. What are you talking about?

    Most of the engineers in Massachusetts operate without any licenses or fancy degrees. For a "fake engineer", his very real gas chambers sure killed a lot of people.

  • ROFLMMFAO

    Oh. . I see. . . .a learned (but not engineer) like Leuchter can create gas chambers. . .but real Engineers within the Nazi machine and funded by it's $ just couldn't figure it out eh.

    Wow. . .keep talkin' here. You're doing a GREAT job without my help! LOL

  • You mean the "gas chambers" that ran on diesel engine exhaust and pesticides? If those were gas chambers someone would have replicated them in a scientific manner by now.

  • So you're going to cling to the ole "all the Zyklon B cianyde they ordered" was for other, more humane purposes!

    Sure!

  • Say what you want, but no one has ever successfully replicated Auschwitz gas chambers, and I don't see anyone trying.

    Almost everything about the "gas chambers" would be instantly settled by a replication, but after 60 years the holocau$t claims are still unproven.

  • for a 'holocaust expert' he must have looked very stupid for stating 6 million people died at Auschwitz.

    Plus, even if he does no enough, he isnt a chemist and knows very little of cyanide. That's why he sent his illegal samples to a lab without proper instruction, only for them to reveal his errors and refute his evidence.

  • You and ski seem desperate. Now lying about Leuchter's claims and credentials. Here's how it works:

    Leuchter: Gas chamber/execution expert. Said holohoax "gas chambers" were unworkable, instructed by Faurisson to take samples.

    Rudolf: Chemistry expert.

    Faurisson: Holocaust expert.

  • Funny, here is how it really works

    Leuchter: Self-proclaims engineer with only credentials being a BACHERLOR OF ARTS. Samples admitted to be tested incorrectly by the lab.

    Rudolf: Chemistry student who had to publish papers under false doctorate aliases. Seems he was trying to make himself look better, as well as hiding something

    Faurisson: Holocaust denier, biased

    100% of PH.D Historians: Believe in the holocaust.

    IFRC: Twice confirmed cyanide residue in gas chambers: 1945 & 1990

  • @dirtypond13: I honestly never had anything against Rudolf..........

  • @SixtiesFan90

    seriously, where the fuck did you come from?

  • Desperate??

    Whatever dude. . .I challenge you to show Leuchters pigskin showing BSE of ANY engineering field. . .

    I have mine!

    "I'm a ramblin' wreck from Ga. Tech and a hell of an engineer! A helluva, helluva, helluva, helluva, helluva an engineer!!"

    BTW. . .it's FAUXrisson. . . BWAH!!!!!

  • That's exactly right.  Even the lab analyst blasted him on his collecting and sampling methods.

    Too bad invicious. . . too, too bad!

  • HOLOCA$H

  • all those who deny the holocaust are put in jail or are not allowed to tell their opinion why?so I watched david irving and even jewish david cole just google their names and as the quran says ask them to submit their proof.once you watch the proof given people like bishop williamson even accept that the holocaust never happened like me he only wants the truth so iwatched these men if they area racist and facsist and my conclusion will be the same as yours if you watch it I AM NOT ANTISEMITE

  • @OZMYMAN it did happen ffs...

  • @OZMYMAN It really raises a red flag as to why some countries make it illegal to question the Holocaust. They must be hiding something.

  • @rolandroman Just remember...It is the VICTORS of WAR that write the history, and the contents of the books our children LEARN from -- whether they be truths, half truths, elaborations or bold face lies

  • @OZMYMAN If you are willing to believe the stories that David Irving wrote then may I suggest you look up "Irving v Penguin Books and Lipstadt" in Wikipedia. If you do not believe Wikipedia's story on it there are plenty of other highly respected websites that tell the same story about this case. David Irving was jailed in Austria, a country that he surely would have known has laws against Holocaust Denial. He went there looking for trouble and found it.

  • Ernst Zündel.... Now he sure is a person of integrity. Back in the 1970's Ernst's main claim to fame was writing books saying that UFOs were the work of the Nazis who launched then from underground bases at the South Pole. He also wrote memorable books about the Earth being hollow, (Much like his head), and another book about Hitler vacating to the South Pole at the end of the war.

  • And I am not Pro Jewish, Anti Jewish, Pro Islamic or Anti Islamic, or anything else. I am an Australian who is sick and tired of seeing idiots like Ernst Zundel getting undeserved attention.

    Now.... I am going to go watch some funny TV Game show bloopers on here. Much more entertaining! :)

  • @rocketrod1960

    "THINKING is the hardest work to do that is why so few do it. "

    - Henry Ford

    "One of the saddest lessons of history is this:

    If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.

    We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge - even to ourselves - that we've been so credulous."

    -Carl Edward Sagan

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234 Hi Laydee, I have done a lot of research on this. Like you, I do think that the public have been told lies on many things. The Holocaust though is one I do believe happened.

  • @rocketrod1960

    You obviously haven't dug deep enough in your research.

    The Holocaust™

    (is a type of Orwellian physiological warfare) - Its use FIRST became popular in the 70's.

    This term was NEVER used to describe the travails of European Jewry during WWII but became popular DECADES later.

    It is just a great example of what it actually means to "rewrite" history and the meaning of a word.

  • @LaydeeLiberty1234 Well said. 'Holocaust' is much too recent and broad a term to have any dependable meaning. However, as a tool of "opinion molding", it is excellent! It appeals the brain fed mind-slaves of those who own and control the flow of ideas, education, information and so called 'facts'.

    These 'mind masters' are the great HIVE, who function in unison with the instincts of honey bees.

    Their motivation is simple: DESTRUCTION. Good luck to those of us who are human.

  • @OZMYMAN How can you say that it never happened? There is so much proof, and the stories that survivors tell are their experiences from what they went through. I do not like people like you, that deny something so horrific has happened, and one day it will happen again.

  • @TheQueenoftheDead it will soon happen for the first time... why do you ADL types troll videos like this? I don't understand it. You can't accept revisionism, fine. Responding to a post over 2 years old from someone questioning why it is a CRIME to ask a f***ing question. What is this proof? the half dozen exploitation films produced each year to gain money and sympathy? The soap and lampshades? Where are these proofs?

  • @TheQueenoftheDead So much proof about the holocaust? Could you please tell me just one conclusive piece of evidence? As for the survivors, you may not know that many former inmates of concentration camps such as Buchenwald and Dachau claimed that they had witnessed how the Germans carried out homicidal gassings there. However nowadays even the holocaust believers admit that there were no gassings in those camps. Therefore it's pretty clear that the alleged witnesses have been proven wrong.

  • youtubedotcom/user/holodenier

    videos on gas and its use

    finalsolution88dotcom/holo_cau­st.htm site with much info and photos

  • Hitler is a great man diabolezied by zion mass media

    jews are microbes & they enfected the truth some jews say god is jewish its unbelivble but some stupid microbes jews belive that WHO THE FUCK SAID JEWS ARE SMART ?

    JEWS ARE ONLY EVILS GAZ EM ALL

  • Went to the Dallas Holocaust Museum again today. My favorite story was the one regarding the fellow who was kicked into a river of human excrement and subsequently drowned. This, my friends, my fellow humans, is pure evil. E-V-I-L. The Devil isnt the devil any more. Nazis are the new devil, and their Dante-esque rivers of excrement are just a glimpse into their blackened hearts, which lie at an infinite distance from every sort of perfection.

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  • @CrawerFieldUnit "My favorite story was the one regarding the fellow who was kicked into a river of human excrement and subsequently drowned."

    Old post, but anyway.. this sounds exactly like stories from the Gulags, so the question is, is the story borrowed perhaps?

  • My favorite were the evapo-chambers, where jews were inhumanely evaporated and scattered through the Auschwitz summer breeze.

  • utter garbage,yes by modern standards it can take 2 hours to completely cremate a body to nothing but ash in case you missed something the germans merely burned the bodies,you are also refering to people that were nothing more than skin and bone,they didnt cremate every body in the ovens,they had open pits at the back they used to burn bodies,if this didnt happen why did the germans involved with these atrocities say they were just following orders instead of denying all knowledge - fact

  • There were no open pits, this is common mythology. Think about this, how would bodies in an open pit be reduced to nothing but ash? There is a reason no mass graves were found, but it isnt because bodies were miraculously reduced to soot in a pit.- lolfact

  • Opinion and the usual reference to established myths that only deniers perpetuate.

    You seem oblivious to the Belzec Survey by Kola and O'Neil. But that doesn't surprise me. I'm afraid the Belzec Survey proves mass burning in pits and when dickheads like you, who float on a raft of opinionated non-evidence, research objectively - as opposed to selectively - you may yet see why the best evidence was and remains, nazi.

    Refute it or choke on it.

  • established myths? hmmm. hmmmm.

  • Obviously youve never read the Melchoir report. Go figure. You Believers are so sheltered, I swear you couldnt swallow your own reports unless they were spoon fed to you by Nizkor.

  • Hvor Vil Du Være Åm Du Ær Så JÆvlig Viking? Kom Til Scandinavia!

  • There were no fire pits because places like Auschwitz were build on wetlands.

    The water table at auschwitz if fout feet below the ground, it's why you never see a pit in any photosgraphs, even from the allies. Had there been pits, you better believe there would be photos of them, it is also why there could not have been mass graves. Dig a hole, you get a pool!

  • huh, yet they were still able to build the crematoriums, which had facilities underground. and you cant dispute this because the ruins are still there...

  • in case you missed something the germans merely burned the bodies,- wut.

    And what about the electrochambers? Lets hear more about those folks whose unfortunate end came way by an electrified room. And the steam chambers, dont forget the steamers! Hotter than a sizzlin plate of fajitas these chambers were nothing to sneeze at in way of death-dealing utter inhumanely tragic life stealing jew hating good times!

  • It is fascinating to me that one can deny the God of their fathers religion or any religion for that matter, but fewer and fewer are the places where one can express doubt in the holocaust. This is our new religion, in that denouncing it means imprisonment for the heretic.

  • I personally don't think denial should be a prosecutable offense. . just a laughable one.

    I don't want to see them locked up as it provides me with an absolute endless source of entertainment.

  • "If you want to identify the real rulers of any society, simply ask yourself this question: Who is it that I can not criticize?"

    -Kevin Alfred Strom

    I think that the anecdotal evidence is sufficient to cause reasonable doubt. That belief in a historical occurrence should be enforced by law is a flag for everyone to see.

  • Not only that, but the holocaust mechanism is emotional. It serves as a monolithic authority on morals, by appealing to our pity, ad misericordiam. In my belief, the morals cultivated in the European herd are far more destructive than preservative insofar as strength to do what is necessary is sapped by fear to act. Like a body that hasn't the strength to defecate, we languish in filth, struggling to gasp our last mouthfuls of air.

  • And so you have morals that are the pinnacle of morality lol but what does it mean? What is its value? It is sickness. You have a worldview grounded within guilt and pity, and a consciousness that has never known itself outside of these bounds. You have, in 'THE Holocaust', as though a tragedy had never happened to another group, the monolithic gravestone of the West, whose shadow blots out reason and provides comfort for vermin of all kind.

  • I suppose that maybe the revisionists are serving a purpose, but only when their beliefs land them in jail.

    But this is my point after all, perhaps one shouldn't struggle with countless odd lists of points and counterpoints, names, data and a million other things. Maybe one should just wrestle with much simpler, more fundamental debate within himself.

    -Should I care?

  • fuck this fat bitch

  • the point is, once it gets wet it no longer burns. you also blatantly ignore the fact that crematoriums don't emit smoke. i've taken this up with individuals who actually work at a creamtorium and are in the know. i'd like to know how bodies can be used to burn bodies. as if bodies are like wood LOL. unless of course you can remove the seventyfive percent water content from human flesh.

  • TOOO funny. . . and you presume then that the Nazi's built these crematoria to civilian standards.

    Please do your research before making yourself look more foolish Mr. Wilson Please ask that person who is so "in the know" how Topf and Sons constructed those COKE fired ovens.

    Point is . . . we intentionally wet it down stupid. . . hose pipe even, not just humidity.

    What I find hilarious in your argument. . is even you big denialist hero's like Mattagno are smart enough not to argue it.

  • person below me, you have to keep in mind they claim thousands were cremated daily. this wouldn't have worked in the wintertime, seeing as how camp ovens were fired with coke. which is coal with the volatile oils taken out. if you know anything aboutn poland's winters, you'd know that they are cold and wet. if coke gets wet, it no longer is able to burn at all.

  • Mr. Wilson,

    You really should research bituminous coal and the coking of it.

    Further, you shouldn't try to make statements like that with someone who understands it's uses in relation to firing steam engines LOL

    You know. . those old WATER leaking things that used to run on rails!!

    We routinely WATER IT DOWN INTENTIONALLY as coke burns at a much higher temp in the first place. It helps to reduce temps so it can be transported into any said blast furnace in the FIRST place. LOL

  • they remove the volatile oils from coal to make coke. i'm aware of how it's made

  • Mr. Wilson,

    LOL

    That's what I thought. I don't mind intellectual arguement on subject matter. Simply solidifies my knowledge, provides reason for additional research, and bolsters the facts. But don't come here presenting something you've read on some ancient website, most of which are racially motivated in the first place, and expect to go unchallenged. Especially when you make a mistake and end up with someone who happens to know the subject..

    Look up NNRR (railroad) in Ely Nv.

  • Seig Heil!

  • holocause is a lie.....fucking zionist brainwash all western people to believe it...fucking western freedom of speech that they tell to all over the world actually is none there. In europe only have freedom of fucking....fuck usa&israel.

  • All I can say is that this entire arresting, deportation, and conviction of Ernst Zundel only serves to give validity to his stance. For, if Ernst Zundel is truly a raving mad looney nut case, most people with half a brain would totally disregard what he says a absolute nonsense anyways. You know, no harm, no foul.

  • Q: How many Holocaust Deniers does it take to change a light bulb?

    A: 1000. One to change it; 999 to furiously deny that it was changed.

  • The only thing that's true is to check out six million jews in the registry office to tell you whether they died prematurely in the war or later by old age.

  • So, this man is claiming that either, A.) The holocaust never 'happened, or B.) Six Million Jews were not killed. I don't understand this at all.

  • He's saying you can't cremate a million people with a handful of ovens.

    Holocaust revisionism is all about debating and examining different aspects of the Holocaust piece by piece, rather than making sweeping statements like "the holocaust never happened".

    Everyone should be able to read both sides from a scientific viewpoint and make up their own mind rather than believe massive sweeping claims with nothing to back them up.

  • Fucking a, couldnt say it better myself

  • @invictus,

    But what he doesn't TELL you is that this 'handful' constituted 52 ovens at Auschwitz alone.

    Enough capacity that, even using DENIALISTS accepted burn times, the entire population in the camp at the time they were constructed. . INCLUDING the SS soldiers there. . could be incinerated in a little less than one month.

    One has to ask themselves. . what were the Nazi's planning on happening that they would NEED such capacity??

  • First of all, there were never 52 ovens running at any given time, less than half could be operational.

    Second 52 oven were not build at the same time, there were literly only a hand full at the begining, you need to read up on this matter.

    Third, the amount it takes to creamate a body is 1.5 to 2.5 hours, which still left all the bone to deal with.

    So I'm curious how you came to the conclusion that they could have creamated millions in one month?

  • Dude. . .BWAHAHAHahahahahaha

    I'm using your DENIALIST heros 'facts' and figures.

    YOU need to research Mattagno and Fauxrissens work

    Dumbass, they didn't HAVE millions in there at RECORDED (by Topf and Son's documentation) time of completion of ALL 52 ovens.

    You are however correct in the fact that all 52 didn't run for long. . a HANDFULL failed at a later date which were never repaired.

    BTW . .futher Topf and Son's docs. show your FIRST claim as BS.

  • Looking at your response, which is filled with incoherent and insulting remarks, instead of responding to my question, leads me to have no doubt that you are not a very well informed person.

    When a person uses insults, it's the first sign that you have already lost the debate

  • LOL,

    No. . . It just shows that I'm an asshole.

    So what. Guilty as charged.

    Fact remains that in contrary to your argument:

    "which is filled with incoherent and insulting remarks, instead of responding to my question"

    If you have the first understanding of law you will know that the burden of 'proof' to the contrary now lies with you

    By all means. . .have at.

  • Apparently you don't have any understanding of the law, you see, the burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused!

    The history of WWII was written by the victor, that is how it has been through human history.

    Many claims that have been made have already been proven to be false, and I'm quite sure that more will be coming.

    Now if you like to debate like an "asshole", than you need to find like wise people, than you both can make up crap without evidence!

  • Apparently YOU don't understand that it's ALREADY BEEN PROVEN!! LOL

    Stupid (and yes, that's intentionally insulting)

    Now. . if you want to debate like an INTELLIGENT person, then YOU need to provide all of this . . .falsification. . . of evidence that was used.

    Again. . .have at. . you keep spewing this bullshit out of your mouth. . but haven't shown the balls to back it up.

    Again I say, have it. . we keep waiting, and waiting. .and waiting . . . and waiting. . . . . and waiting

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  • What I find completely hilarious is that if courts were ran in the form that YOU want them ran in regards to this, then we'd just as well release all murders because YOU would want the smoking gun ruled inadmissable due to the fact that is still wasn't in the iron ore form before manufacture.

  • No, Diemerstein seems to have a very good understanding, unlike you!

    There is, and I repeat....there is not one forensic shred of evidence that one single human being was ever gassed by the Germans..period.

    Unless you believe that Raul Hilberg knew less than you believe you know!

    You claim that you are an asshole, no sir, you are a fucking moron, who knows absolutely nothing beyond what you learned from Hollywood, so go right ahead making a complete moron out of your self!

  • October 15, 1941 Report of Dr. Franz Walter Stahlecker, commander of death squad Einsatzgruppe A:

    "From the very beginning it was to be expected that pogroms alone would not solve the Jewish problem in the Ostland. The goal of the cleansing operation of the Sicherheitspolizei, in accordance with the fundamental orders, was the most comprehensive elimination of the Jews possible."

  • BTW PerDiem,

    The only 'insulting' remark was calling you a dumbass. If that constitues nullifing argument, you surely are a weak contender. In other words, . . . if you can't take the heat. . .

  • It's not a matter of taking the heat, it a matter of debating someone with the same intellectual level, which you quite obviously do not have.

    Looking at all your raving on here, one comes to the conclusion that you fell off the stupid tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

    Now crawl back to your corner, continue chewing on your toenails...looking for your inverted clit, you ridiculous carnival freak.

    Oh yeah punk, I can take it, and am better at dishing it out!

  • January 27, 1995 signed affidavit of SS-Untersturmfuehrer Dr. Hans Münch, on his time at Auschwitz:

    "I, a former SS physician, witnessed the dropping of Zyklon B into simulated exhaust vents from outside the gas chamber...The effects of the gas were observed through a peephole by an assigned doctor or the SS officer on duty. After three to five minutes, death could be certified, and the doors were opened as a sign that the corpses were cleared to be burned."

  • Dr. Wetzel to Reichskommissar Lohse, October 25, 1941

    . . please be informed that

    Oberdiensleiter Brack . . has stated his readiness to assist in the construction of

    the necessary accommodations and gassing apparatuses. . . Brack's view is that, since construction of the

    apparatuses within the Reich would present far greater difficulties

    than on-site production. .Jews who are not fit for work can be eliminated

    without qualms through use of the Brack device . .

  • German newspaper BILD interview of SS Rottenführer Oskar Groening, on his time at Auschwitz:

    "The prisoners stood in five lines, men separated from women. The children stayed with their mothers. Then five people came forward. Doctors picked out all the sick and those unable to work and put them on a truck, ostensibly so that they could be taken care of. We knew, however, that they would go to the gas chambers."

  • Letter from Willy Just to SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Walter Rauff, June 5, 1942, on the use of homicidal gas vans:

    "Since December 1941, for example, 97,000 have been processed using three vans...The connecting hoses between the exhaust and the van frequently rust through...To prevent this the connecting piece must be moved so that the gas is fed from the top downwards...the noise always begins when the doors are shut presumably because of fear brought on by the darkness."

  • Letter from SS-Major General Dr. Harald Turner to Karl Wolff, chief of Himmler's personal staff, on April 11, 1942:

    "Already some months ago, I shot dead all the Jews I could get my hands on in this area, concentrated all the Jewish women and children in a camp and with the help of the SD got my hands on a "delousing van," that in about 14 days to 4 weeks will have brought about the definitive clearing out of the camp..."

  • 1981 Swedish Television interview of SS-Untersturmfuehrer Dr. Hans Münch, on his time at Auschwitz:

    Münch: "Special treatment" in the terminology of the concentration camp

    means physical extermination. If it was a question of more than a few people, where nothing else than gassing them was worth while, they were gassed.

    Swedish Television: "Special treatment" was gassing?

    Münch: Yes, absolutely

  • Court testimony of SS-Oberscharführer Hubert Gomerski, on Himmler's visit to the Sobibor death camp in March 1943:

    "All the SS men, members of the police, and the Ukrainian volunteers were lined up in a parade. I personally reported my platoon to Himmler for inspection. I know that on the day when Himmler was in Sobibor a certain number of Jews were gassed...I can tell for sure that Himmler visited Camp III [extermination area]. "

  • Hmm. . .So your 'better' eh??

    On a different note, perhaps YOU can explain the need for 52 ovens at Auschwitz. . .And while your at it, explain why 'showers' would be construct there beside the crematoria, instead of logically placing them close to the 'barracks'.

    Further, why did the nazis feel the need to quickly destroy these 'showers' in the face of Russian advance instead of more logistically important buildings???

    Perhaps they didn't want to face a clean enemy.

    ROFLMMFAO!

  • ""Hmm. . .So your 'better' eh??""

    On Holocaust history? Hell yes.

    You see, unlike you, I don't buy hear say.

    Millions of people claim to have seen aliens, does that make it a fact?

    Billions believe in Gods, an invisible almighty, I don't. I need proof!

    Like diemerstein already said, there were never 52 oven, there were a total of 52 retorts build, but never 52 ovens, read up on the difference.

    Second, there were never 52 retorts in operation, more than half were out of service.

  • Um. . .then why are you SOOO ignorant as the the fact the the INMATES destroyed Crema IV on 10-07-44??

    I mean really?. . .did that "16 years" not do you a damned bit of good??

    The fact is there . . .tanker. . . that the NAZIS DID IN FACT destroy Cremas II and III on 1-20-45, . . .a full SEVEN DAYS before the Soviets marched in.

    And BTW . . . not only does NAZI documents prove 26 Topf and Sons double's. . .that is 52 ovens. . .but so do Topf and Sons documents.

    cont:

  • Further. . .even Mattagno and Fauxrissen won't deny those figures.

    On top of that. . .Mattagno. . .a LEADING denialist, unlike your unknown ass. . puts those burn rates much quicker.

    You see, coke burns at a MUCH higher temp that bituminous coal. . .I've already had to argue that point with another idiot who wanted to claim the wet winters would have prohibited its use. . .but you see, being an old RR buff, and knowing about coal. . .see, . . .they actually wet coke down to help COOL it.

  • So now. . .If YOU'RE going to make claims based on YOU'RE 16 years of . . . education. . .

    Perhaps you should take just ONE MONTH to learn enough so as to not make yourself look the complete fool LOL

  • What else can I school your dumb ass on?!

    Tell you what, if you want to continue this debate, you need to educate your self by other means than the Hollywood bull shit you have been indoctrinated to believe.

    Btw, all those so called confessions you keep posting, did you know they were the result of tortured confessions? Yep, the British interrogators confirmed this in 1992, don't reply with more crap, unless you would like more embarrassing schooling from me!

  • LOL. . . The only one EVEN YOUR FREAKIN DENIALIST HERO'S claim was tortured was Hoess. ..

    God your freakin ignorant. . .If your denialist heros told you to get down and eat horse shit, you'd be pickin' hay for the next week!

  • I sent you a link to to a Guardian news article that shows that torture was wide spread among the allies in order to get Germans to confess to war crimes they didn't comit.

    Once again, I schooled your ass, and all you can come up with bla bla bla, but no facts to back your claims.

    I have given you facts, and you reply with nonesense.

    You need to shut the fuck up, you are outclassed.

  • LOL. . I love how you want to believe yourself SOOOO much, that you have to post egotistical shit in order to make yourself feel better.

    ANYway. . .sorry, getting the crap kicked out of you. . although wrong. . .does NOT constitute 'torture'. .

    NOW. . .glass rods in the penis, then broken with a hammer. . .fingers crushed flat in a press. . .nails pulled out with pliers. . etc. . THAT'S torture.

    HILARIOUS. .. look at all the POW's who endured worse, yet never spilled info.

  • OH. .. and I'm sorry. . I forgot to add the egotist rant:

    Once again, I schooled your ass, but I bet you're going to come back with bla bla bla. . .but NO facts (other than some SS getting the crap beat out of them) to back YOUR claim of . . 'torture'. .

    I have given facts, and YOU reply with BS.

    Being that your uneducated in the subject matter, best to be quiet and thought of as a fool. . rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  • Bullshit.

  • By all means. Have at proving it BS. Please provide qualifying citations from accredited engineering TSB's.

    I provide mine from Topf's lead engineers.

  • What is a TSB?

  • Crawer wrote:

    "What is a TSB?"

    Um. . . .Crawer. . . It's a 'Technical Service Bulletin'

    The are used in all areas of industry, usually written by a PE. . .

    I know, I know. . . whats a PE.

    That's a Professional Engineer, who after completing a degree in their field of study and then after several years of internship under another PE completes and passes the Professional Engineers exam.

    Most fail on their first attempt.

  • Today, they use gas oxygen mixture, exposing the body to direct jet fire, and it takes 1.5 to 2.5 hours to cremate a body depending on size.

    Coke is not a direct fire, but more like a charcoal BBQ, which takes much longer.

    Come on man, don't be so stupid, the information is widely available.

    Go to any cremation society, they will tell you the same thing.