Glad I live on the west coast we dont have a big problem with moisture. Im near the ocean my house was built in 1948 has no insulation or vapor barrier and no mold or rot issues. I crawled under the house and all looks good as new. So I guess I can relax now.
thats the purpose of the vapor barriers, to prevent vapor "water" from being soaked up in the drywall. An the vapor barrier is always supposed to go on the warm side. which in return keeps the warm and cold air from meeting and creating vapor.
@Traxtitan this is what they teach in my hvac school. I was reading a powerpoint and had to look this up, it clearly states vapor barriers go on the winter warm side of insulation. I myself have a house with a suspension under my garage and have a finished theater room in it. I actually have no vapor barrier and have no mold issues. Kansas city area
so where is the proper place for a vapor barrier. i put one on an exterior wall, with insulation with no facing, in a bathroom, and on interior walls with no insulation and cement board.
Guys, lets keep in mind that we are all in different parts of the country. Different regions have different climates. There is no magic formula for finishing a basement. What works in one part of the country may not work in another.
Paper backed insulation should never be used in a basement period!Non pressure treated lumber is going to eventually become a mold bath.Also the contractors giving you this ill advise,will only provide a one year warranty and no warranty against mold.So when thinking about finishing,understand most of these guys hire another contractor to do the work to release themselves from future liability.Pioneer Basement is one of those companies that tell you they are bringing in a contractor.BEWARE!
sure bud.....except your insulation looks fine, and the water damage could have come during the building process(somtimes those floors hold water for days before the roof is on. Where is the problem here? There should be a vapor barrier on the OUTSIDE of all of the concrete, which would make one on the inside useless. I dont like the plastic either, but if your going to talk mold, or moisture problems, show them to us. Not just a little bit of water(not moisture vapor) damage at the plates.....
That's funny, It looks fine but that doesn't mean anything. Lots of things can look fine and be a hazard. 100% wrong way. He didn't say there was mould, he said you delay you seeing it grow. Moisture will travel through materials, its drawn in dryer material. (I'm sorry if i'm not explaining what I mean clearly, sometimes I I have difficulty putting it in writing :) The way that basement is built is the perfect set up for creating mould.
The moisture transfers into the insulation and wood but is trapped by the vapour barrior.
Depending also on the foundation it can cause problems and weaken it. It looks like it may be an older home that someone tired to finish and make look pretty. When he shows the other wall that looks like an old type of insulation in older homes.
I installed my vapor barrier behind the studs so that my insulation and studs are excluded from the concrete. My basement is also 60 years old and the cinderblock walls have been painted since.
Glad I live on the west coast we dont have a big problem with moisture. Im near the ocean my house was built in 1948 has no insulation or vapor barrier and no mold or rot issues. I crawled under the house and all looks good as new. So I guess I can relax now.
yumyumsashimi 7 months ago
The main problem here is water seepage of some some sort. V
neoursa 9 months ago
thats the purpose of the vapor barriers, to prevent vapor "water" from being soaked up in the drywall. An the vapor barrier is always supposed to go on the warm side. which in return keeps the warm and cold air from meeting and creating vapor.
kevbob17 1 year ago
@Traxtitan this is what they teach in my hvac school. I was reading a powerpoint and had to look this up, it clearly states vapor barriers go on the winter warm side of insulation. I myself have a house with a suspension under my garage and have a finished theater room in it. I actually have no vapor barrier and have no mold issues. Kansas city area
redhot916spd 1 year ago
so where is the proper place for a vapor barrier. i put one on an exterior wall, with insulation with no facing, in a bathroom, and on interior walls with no insulation and cement board.
Thesis125 1 year ago
Guys, lets keep in mind that we are all in different parts of the country. Different regions have different climates. There is no magic formula for finishing a basement. What works in one part of the country may not work in another.
kcbasementfinishing 1 year ago
Paper backed insulation should never be used in a basement period!Non pressure treated lumber is going to eventually become a mold bath.Also the contractors giving you this ill advise,will only provide a one year warranty and no warranty against mold.So when thinking about finishing,understand most of these guys hire another contractor to do the work to release themselves from future liability.Pioneer Basement is one of those companies that tell you they are bringing in a contractor.BEWARE!
tebox11 1 year ago
people still use wood studs in basements?
ringchild 2 years ago
sure bud.....except your insulation looks fine, and the water damage could have come during the building process(somtimes those floors hold water for days before the roof is on. Where is the problem here? There should be a vapor barrier on the OUTSIDE of all of the concrete, which would make one on the inside useless. I dont like the plastic either, but if your going to talk mold, or moisture problems, show them to us. Not just a little bit of water(not moisture vapor) damage at the plates.....
d1incharge 2 years ago
That's funny, It looks fine but that doesn't mean anything. Lots of things can look fine and be a hazard. 100% wrong way. He didn't say there was mould, he said you delay you seeing it grow. Moisture will travel through materials, its drawn in dryer material. (I'm sorry if i'm not explaining what I mean clearly, sometimes I I have difficulty putting it in writing :) The way that basement is built is the perfect set up for creating mould.
willowgirl292 2 years ago
The moisture transfers into the insulation and wood but is trapped by the vapour barrior.
Depending also on the foundation it can cause problems and weaken it. It looks like it may be an older home that someone tired to finish and make look pretty. When he shows the other wall that looks like an old type of insulation in older homes.
willowgirl292 2 years ago
very informative
Thank you.
kerryoke68 2 years ago
I installed my vapor barrier behind the studs so that my insulation and studs are excluded from the concrete. My basement is also 60 years old and the cinderblock walls have been painted since.
ryleeryno 2 years ago