This runway is IFR with a glidescope and localizer, as I recall. Of course you could land visual, there are however no precision approach indicators on this runway for a visual.
Even on a visual you generally use the glideslope indicator to maintain a stabilized path, on some aircraft a snowflake symbol replaces the usual glidepath indicator so that the pilot remains aware that he is flying a visual. They crossed at 'fifty' which is about the correct altitude. It looks high due to the light conditions time of day and vis.
Garlex134: well, the person could be using the ILS or whatever to help him out, i suppose. Going visual just means that visual cues are the main reference for the landing, and it does not depend on any instruments. I do -not- know that for -sure-, I'm not an instrument rated pilot. If any instrument rated pilots come on here, please correct me if I'm wrong...
99.9% of airliners in the world, Per their SOP (Standard Operating Procedures) they are required, regardless of approach cleared for, to fly the ILS Localizer at the least and have it punched in the NAV1
I was going to ask the same question :) No PAPI or anything? Funny I also thought that the approach seemed a bit high but once he crossed the threshold... radio alt said "50." So it was just right :) Thanks for the post.
yes its strange approach. he seems to be way too high and way too slow, but its hard to estimate altitude by visual. for me he was descending v. steeply at the end.
VASI/PAPI are VISUAL aids and are used at all times regardless of whether or not the weather is IFR or VFR, but primarily in VISUAL conditions. At KJFK, all runways are instrument approach capable, but only 13L, 13R, and 22L even have a VASI or PAPI installed. All other runways (including 4R) rely on the electronic glideslope only (except 13R).
then what happened?
FieroCampagnolo 8 months ago
people something it's true ; the runway 4r and 4l are the runways more used to land
SuperAlexD13 1 year ago
Something magical with dawn/early morning landings...seems just soo peaceful and nice.
HHan13 1 year ago
Aw Dude I was looking forward to seeing the entire landing. Disappointing
EnnCamp 1 year ago
i just love how slow it seems to be going.
rutgersfan7 1 year ago
Would have been a nice video if you hadn't totally overzoomed the runway! What a pity!
FTStratLP 2 years ago 7
so nice, 5*
ecamaratube 2 years ago
Actually Your wrong. Thats the Inner marker
SocomX39 2 years ago
Why this runway don't have The PAPI Light?
chamilitary999 2 years ago
Oh, on a 742? Thanks!
IloveSPIDERZ 2 years ago
At 1:40 What was that beeping noise?
IloveSPIDERZ 2 years ago
Spiderz,
Thats the Inner Marker Auto pilot is really loud and they shut autopilot off on touchdown
SocomX39 2 years ago
Awesome SocomX39! Another question if you don't mind. sorry. What's an inner marker do?
IloveSPIDERZ 2 years ago
It beeps to tell the pilots that they are approximately 200 feet from the threshold of the runway.
jpilot101 2 years ago
Oh, OK. Very cool! Thanks!
IloveSPIDERZ 2 years ago
RW 04R: ILS CAT II&III operations , 109.9MHz,
but of course it can be used for visual app also.1 star from me ,too shaky and too short video.
KuvDabGib 2 years ago
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hey some times its boring just approaching IFR some times its funner VFR but you need to be good at it
bruno170397 2 years ago
funner? Really?
flysupertomcat1 2 years ago
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looks like a very slow airplane...
EP1997 2 years ago
it's landing. idiot!
trc35 2 years ago 2
He means it looks slow because the camera is zoomed in.
pwnzerage 2 years ago
This runway is IFR with a glidescope and localizer, as I recall. Of course you could land visual, there are however no precision approach indicators on this runway for a visual.
grantrmca 2 years ago
As I recall this runway is on the glidescope and localizer - IFR.
grantrmca 2 years ago
i absolutely love flying ito LGA and JFK
yankeesfan135 2 years ago
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livezeppelin 2 years ago
Who said it's a visual anyway?? Just 'cos it's VMC doesn't mean that they are not cleared for the ILS.
Patriot1962 2 years ago 2
Even on a visual you generally use the glideslope indicator to maintain a stabilized path, on some aircraft a snowflake symbol replaces the usual glidepath indicator so that the pilot remains aware that he is flying a visual. They crossed at 'fifty' which is about the correct altitude. It looks high due to the light conditions time of day and vis.
Patriot1962 2 years ago 2
I like how they built the Rabbit lights as a kind of jetty out over that pond.
avcomth 2 years ago
What is used to tell if you are on the correct path if there are no PAPI lights used?
tubeyou443 3 years ago
I.L.S.{instrument landing system}
MADTASS 3 years ago
But in this case it's a visual approach.
tubeyou443 3 years ago
you get an eye for correct glide path. nearly all pilots can tell if they are substantially low or high, with or without ILS, in good visibility.
olsonr 3 years ago
So does a visual landing means that he or she is not using any instrument to help him, he just finds the runway and land?
garlex134 2 years ago
Garlex134: well, the person could be using the ILS or whatever to help him out, i suppose. Going visual just means that visual cues are the main reference for the landing, and it does not depend on any instruments. I do -not- know that for -sure-, I'm not an instrument rated pilot. If any instrument rated pilots come on here, please correct me if I'm wrong...
olsonr 2 years ago
99.9% of airliners in the world, Per their SOP (Standard Operating Procedures) they are required, regardless of approach cleared for, to fly the ILS Localizer at the least and have it punched in the NAV1
livezeppelin 2 years ago
basically I mean its a wonder day out so yh
killabb24 2 years ago
in some for yes but it means that you dont atuo land you land the plane
NVAirport 2 years ago
What a beautiful approach!
tubeyou443 3 years ago 2
there is something called a glideslope which guides the pilot down
adjb04 3 years ago
whats a 742 or you mean a 747?
TakeTHAT900 3 years ago
742 = 747-200
FuenferBMW 3 years ago
A 742 is a 747-200 and a 744 is a 747-400!
1021744 3 years ago
That's no landing, it's just the final! :-(
silentmurr 3 years ago 6
JFK Rnwy 4R does not have visual slope indicator lighting?
Fuff63 3 years ago
I was going to ask the same question :) No PAPI or anything? Funny I also thought that the approach seemed a bit high but once he crossed the threshold... radio alt said "50." So it was just right :) Thanks for the post.
TrueCourse 3 years ago
yes its strange approach. he seems to be way too high and way too slow, but its hard to estimate altitude by visual. for me he was descending v. steeply at the end.
kurtoneal 3 years ago
the reason why he is slow is because he may have a low payload, hence a slow landing speed
stewyshaw 3 years ago
might be, but it really looks strange
kurtoneal 3 years ago
best time of day to fly
jCazalot 3 years ago 11
Yes,It is. and Thanks for love it.
jdwu 3 years ago
747 in the 04R???
goeswillgo 3 years ago
yeah, we got a short runway like that in sydney (kingsford smith international); it's 16L
FrozenFlame333 3 years ago
ЧЕ ЗА ХЕРЬ???
ZLODEI2 3 years ago
Да,действительно херь...
zhbrrrr 3 years ago 2
its so pretty outside...
shutup402 3 years ago
What kinds of planes do you fly?
pega57 3 years ago
Its mentioned I think he means its
Boeing
B747-200F cargo plane
Kabuki0Kozou 3 years ago 2
Yes, It is.
and Thanks for comments.
jdwu 3 years ago
These videos are fantastic!!!!I used to live not too far from ur terminal approach into jfk
and always look for my old house when I fly in. Please continue to post these videos!!!
bigworld1001 4 years ago
I will and Thanks for love it!
jdwu 4 years ago
are you a pilot?
astrofan1745 3 years ago
where is jfk
iluvepezza 4 years ago
One of New York City international airports.
jdwu 4 years ago
County: Queens, State: New York, City: Jamacia
sam19ny1 4 years ago
Was cut too short, lol.
CoolOrb 4 years ago 2
too bad you did not shoot untill the end..
jbo777 4 years ago 2
It was fine to leave something behind.
jdwu 4 years ago
weres the PAPI?
PSPmaster321 5 years ago
Yes!One bar two or four lights for glide slope.
jdwu 5 years ago
Visual approach no need PAPI,it's for IFR.
jdwu 5 years ago
ohh ok, i didnt know that ,thanks ;)
PSPmaster321 5 years ago
Welcome!and thanks for like it.
jdwu 5 years ago
Um, no.
VASI/PAPI are VISUAL aids and are used at all times regardless of whether or not the weather is IFR or VFR, but primarily in VISUAL conditions. At KJFK, all runways are instrument approach capable, but only 13L, 13R, and 22L even have a VASI or PAPI installed. All other runways (including 4R) rely on the electronic glideslope only (except 13R).
mollan193 5 years ago
Yes! Your right and Thanks for so detail further information.
jdwu 5 years ago
nice:)))
thecoollest 5 years ago
thanks!thecoollest
jdwu 5 years ago