@hockeyplyr67 I was thinking the same thing - but at least he told us he sells it - so you can deceide how much BS is added because he is making money...
Cool Review. Big fan of my DroboFS. I recall the one I bought was like 800 bucks! USB 3.0.. Basically every hook up you'd want. 5 bay. Its great. You are speaking from a rubber hits the road point of view which i really like. I bought my drobo about 2 weeks after an HD blew out on me before I could back up 1 month of hard work! I lost almost all of it. At that point I had to admit to myself that I was not going to keep hooking up external HDs and hand picking (i have to do that) files over
Cool Review. Big fan of my DroboFS. I recall the one I bought was like 800 bucks! USB 3.0.. Basically every hook up you'd want. 5 bay. Its great. You are speaking from a rubber hits the road point of view which i really like. I bought my drobo about 2 weeks after an HD blew out on me before I could back up 1 month of hard work! I lost almost all of it. At that point I had to admit to myself that I was not going to keep hooking up external HDs and hand picking (i have to do that) files over .
Also with the slow write speeds, high start up cost (BTW if you add up the numbers that you kept changing it is between 700-900 to get equivalent storage). I payed $120 and grab a computer that one of the local business was going to toss. (900 mhz dell with 2 sata ports) set it up on that. it has been running ever since with no problems and i max out my switch speed (as i operate on garbage i only have 100Mb/s switch) every time i do a transfer.
I was dumb and purchased the D-Link DNS 325 and I'm sorry I made the move , No Decent Tech Support and loaded with 3rd party software and the Interface Stinks.
freeNAS can do raid arrays. and it can even do more as far as raids go. and it should be easy if you know the terminology. sooo, do more research??? idk
it's way too expensive for the drobo in my opinion cause i agree about the power supply, it's gonna be super expensive and timely to get.
there's no way freeNAS takes 6 hours to set up, if it does then that person has no business setting up my server!! i'd say it would take an hour then a lab then about another 30 mins.
You could use Iomega's USB to network device that will permit your USB Drobo access to any computer on your network. I believe it handles up to four USB 2.0 devices and includes a print server feature.
Not even gonna bother watching this junk. Comparing a Drobo to FreeNAS is like comparing Windows 7 to an iPod. FreeNAS is a OS, Drobo is a device. Any questions??
Personally i HATE the Drobo. Have two of them: first and second generation model and both are slow as hell as soon as you fill them up with data. A 75% filled system gives me approx. 2-5 MB/s if it has its good day. HD Movies in 1080p and 8-10 MBits Videorate are sometimes even lagging.
Not acceptable for a price tag of 400€ when i bought them.
Now going with linux MDADM and a 9x 2 TB RAID6. Rebuild time now 9 hours instead of 5-7 DAYS.
Drobo's CPU is just waaaay too slow for the parity calc.
Forgot to mention that if your Drobo enclosure shreds and you're out of the pittance of a warranty period (1 year), you're hosed until you get another one because of the proprietary file system it uses.
How does the PC see Drobo? like Drive F: ? or does it see multiple drives? need to know if it just sees one drive so I can link it to my media server.
This wasn't a Drobo vs Freenas review, 95% of the video was just Drobo fanboy chat about pricing and how great the Drobo is. A like for like review should be compare the two systems features against each other.
This was not a comparison rather more like drobo promo ... not fair at all. Just see how much time he has takes to discuss drobo and how much time he mentioned the word FreeNAS. Very biased!!!!!!!!!
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FreeNAS doesn't need constant monitoring if you've got access to SSH and Port 80 (which anyone can). You just need to know what you're doing to monitor it if the machine is headless.
forgive the ignorance. But I'm looking at buying a Drobo but to make it a NAS I need to also get a droboshare, correct? I really like the firewire 800 capability but I wanted to know if having a USB cable and not an ethernet between the Drobo and the Droboshare made data transfer somewhat slow. What do you think?
I have a Freenas and it brillient but I completely understand where your coming from about loosing data, my friend is a Cisco engineer and he has had 6 hard dives fail on his home server this year!! Something I am not willing to risk with my Freenas so for sake of peace of mind I am buying a Drobo next month :)
What happens when the power supply fails in ANY of the Drobo devices? You never covered what happens in that case. I think in a server solution - that is a better option. Unfortunately a good raid card is going to cost you $500 and its going to have all the Drobo features and addons with more stability, speed, flexibility and RELIABILITY. In the event of a power supply failure on a server, just replace and go...
@SpeedHacks Well, I have a droboshare and I had a problem with my power supply. IT is a an external brick to reduce heat problems within the box and therefore need less cooling. They just swapped the power supply for me.... job done.
Lets not forget Openfiler. With Openfiler you could add drive space when you what-check it out. I'm a Linux user so I've been watching you videos for a while now.
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I agree with the point you have made for and against both the Drobo and FreeNAS. But. And please don't take this personally. The FreeNAS build in my opinion is more of a.... existing 'thing'. In the scence that you install it on something you already have laying around. But I totaly agree with you on your points for and against.
FreeNAS is a software project, not a hardware project; its not really fair to mark down FreeNAS because of hardware limitations. Since FreeNAS now includes ZFS, I would take that over Drobo/WHS any day.
I hate off the shelf non-modular hardware; If something dies in an off the shelf integrated box you are hosed. FreeNAS and others like NASlite can expand and upgrade much more easily. If you want a low power box build a machine with a mini-itx mobo. SATA would be more ideal than USB or firewire.
My landfill rescued parts junk NAS box with a PIII 1000MHz, 768MB and a GbE NIC with JBOD IDE drives eats Drobos.
The DRobo does sound fantastic but please inform your public that once setup FreeNAS is a headless system. In fact, if one were to run off Live CD, it's feasible that one wouldn't ever need to have a monitor attached. Provided that the default IP is initially accessible on one's LAN. Even so one could simply attach a keyboard and press 2, and return 3 times to acquire an IP via DHCP. perhaps the Drobo is simpler but a geek should relish the chance to install a distro without a monitor.
I think the Drobo is cool, but when they didn't add built in network support with their latest Drobo with Firewire 800 - I thought that was lame.
One question for you - does Drobo offer a Droboshare device that can connect with the Firewire 800 instead of the usb, and would that be faster on the network?
Excellent review - I think I am going to subscribe to you videos now.
Until they make a Drobo that can stream HD video - I think it is a extremely over priced device.
I am please that you did mention that it was not fast enough. I knew with the USB it would not be, but I thought that with the Drobo share added in - it would be able to be faster on the network. You saved me $600 to $700 right there - thanks!
For data backup - I use Mozy (Carbonite is basically the same) for a online backup. I have a local fileserver that handles everything else.
Great review, as I've been waiting to hear your take on the Drobo. Currently riding the fence on getting one and my primary concern is the read/write speeds. I plan to use the Drobo to hold over 3 TB of movies and music and stream them to 3 apple TVs in the house. *Very* little of what I have is HD, but the concern is whether the Drobo can handle it, either attached directly to an Airport Extreme or through the Drobo Share.
The Drobo USB 2.0 version, so the "slower one" is able to stream 3 HD 720p videos, and 2 SD videos (DVD res) sustained. So the speed is good for that.
Even a 1080p Blu-Ray rip only needs about 2-4MBPS sustained, it peaks higher than that, but the Drobo seems to handle that just fine.
I really tested the heck out of video streaming, and it works great! The FW800 model is even faster than mine!
I just thought, could you use FreeNAS or Drobo as direct storage for video feeds from cameras. Like rather than have a PC take care of it, record directly? Also would that really be effective? If not what would you suggest? Thanks man, another great vid!
@mysticxhobo minus the cost of a hardware controller for an actual raid system. Sorry software raid isn't stable.
TheDsmith225 2 months ago
hi
StutteringMatt 3 months ago
This seemed more like a promo than a comparison.
dctemper 3 months ago
When Drobo dies, it takes all your data with it.
akirafactor 4 months ago
What about the Netgear ReadyNAS? There are some more affordable versions now than when you created this vid.
ACMEphotography 5 months ago
Slanted much? Dude, you sell Drobo's.
hockeyplyr67 5 months ago
@hockeyplyr67 I was thinking the same thing - but at least he told us he sells it - so you can deceide how much BS is added because he is making money...
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Cool Review. Big fan of my DroboFS. I recall the one I bought was like 800 bucks! USB 3.0.. Basically every hook up you'd want. 5 bay. Its great. You are speaking from a rubber hits the road point of view which i really like. I bought my drobo about 2 weeks after an HD blew out on me before I could back up 1 month of hard work! I lost almost all of it. At that point I had to admit to myself that I was not going to keep hooking up external HDs and hand picking (i have to do that) files over
greyshell77 5 months ago
Cool Review. Big fan of my DroboFS. I recall the one I bought was like 800 bucks! USB 3.0.. Basically every hook up you'd want. 5 bay. Its great. You are speaking from a rubber hits the road point of view which i really like. I bought my drobo about 2 weeks after an HD blew out on me before I could back up 1 month of hard work! I lost almost all of it. At that point I had to admit to myself that I was not going to keep hooking up external HDs and hand picking (i have to do that) files over .
greyshell77 5 months ago
What a Drobo Fan boy. free nas does more that what you said and i run it on garbage....
camerinhahn 5 months ago
Also with the slow write speeds, high start up cost (BTW if you add up the numbers that you kept changing it is between 700-900 to get equivalent storage). I payed $120 and grab a computer that one of the local business was going to toss. (900 mhz dell with 2 sata ports) set it up on that. it has been running ever since with no problems and i max out my switch speed (as i operate on garbage i only have 100Mb/s switch) every time i do a transfer.
camerinhahn 5 months ago
It grows as i grow.....& It beats with me? Mmmm, ok.
mikun32159 6 months ago
can this $600 drobo support zfs or btrfs file systems?
I'm hoping its much cheaper than $600 now since this was posted a couple years ago now.
neworleansrocks 7 months ago
I have flagged this video for spam because this guy is such a tool.
Armornone 7 months ago
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DROBO NOT FREEE
srherry 8 months ago
DROBO NOT FR EEE
srherry 8 months ago
I was dumb and purchased the D-Link DNS 325 and I'm sorry I made the move , No Decent Tech Support and loaded with 3rd party software and the Interface Stinks.
DWJ202 9 months ago
ooh yeah both were Linux btw. hahaha
NothingsSomething 10 months ago
freeNAS can do raid arrays. and it can even do more as far as raids go. and it should be easy if you know the terminology. sooo, do more research??? idk
it's way too expensive for the drobo in my opinion cause i agree about the power supply, it's gonna be super expensive and timely to get.
there's no way freeNAS takes 6 hours to set up, if it does then that person has no business setting up my server!! i'd say it would take an hour then a lab then about another 30 mins.
NothingsSomething 10 months ago
Was That a Xeon sticker I saw on that dell?
TheOllybanks 1 year ago
Drobo seems like a great product, but what a rip off!!!
$1500 for a drobo pro? are they insane?!
janX9 1 year ago
You could use Iomega's USB to network device that will permit your USB Drobo access to any computer on your network. I believe it handles up to four USB 2.0 devices and includes a print server feature.
AllFractUp 1 year ago
Not even gonna bother watching this junk. Comparing a Drobo to FreeNAS is like comparing Windows 7 to an iPod. FreeNAS is a OS, Drobo is a device. Any questions??
nullx86 1 year ago 3
Personally i HATE the Drobo. Have two of them: first and second generation model and both are slow as hell as soon as you fill them up with data. A 75% filled system gives me approx. 2-5 MB/s if it has its good day. HD Movies in 1080p and 8-10 MBits Videorate are sometimes even lagging.
Not acceptable for a price tag of 400€ when i bought them.
Now going with linux MDADM and a 9x 2 TB RAID6. Rebuild time now 9 hours instead of 5-7 DAYS.
Drobo's CPU is just waaaay too slow for the parity calc.
ThirdLife86 1 year ago
Forgot to mention that if your Drobo enclosure shreds and you're out of the pittance of a warranty period (1 year), you're hosed until you get another one because of the proprietary file system it uses.
chipzoller 1 year ago
How does the PC see Drobo? like Drive F: ? or does it see multiple drives? need to know if it just sees one drive so I can link it to my media server.
SIXSPEED69 1 year ago
Drobo shill.
docsharp 1 year ago
This guy is just a drobo fanboy!, horrible review!! FreeNAS + ZFS rules!!
hexcode 1 year ago 2
@hexcode No, he just wants to sell you a Drobo and show you a sponsored GoDaddy commercial.
qopha 1 year ago
This wasn't a Drobo vs Freenas review, 95% of the video was just Drobo fanboy chat about pricing and how great the Drobo is. A like for like review should be compare the two systems features against each other.
th3r4por 1 year ago 4
I like your personality, bro. You seem like good people. Respect.
Jallandhara 1 year ago
im sorry ill stick with Freenas which has NFS and ISCSI
bovinespongiformflu 1 year ago 2
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zk1997 1 year ago
This was not a comparison rather more like drobo promo ... not fair at all. Just see how much time he has takes to discuss drobo and how much time he mentioned the word FreeNAS. Very biased!!!!!!!!!
zk1997 1 year ago 3
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IrishDancerColm 1 year ago
FreeNAS doesn't need constant monitoring if you've got access to SSH and Port 80 (which anyone can). You just need to know what you're doing to monitor it if the machine is headless.
ajwak95 1 year ago 2
Good review, looking forward to drobo fs review :)
rezaxxx 1 year ago
latest night build of freeNas has Time Capsule feature.
up0 1 year ago
forgive the ignorance. But I'm looking at buying a Drobo but to make it a NAS I need to also get a droboshare, correct? I really like the firewire 800 capability but I wanted to know if having a USB cable and not an ethernet between the Drobo and the Droboshare made data transfer somewhat slow. What do you think?
trabajador84 2 years ago
Really enjoyed your discussion of the Drobo pros and cons.
cchapin53 2 years ago
i believe freenas can act as a time capsule natively
lowtone10 2 years ago
my verdict: opennas: hard to set up, but fun when it works, best of all FREE! i haven't tried the drobo
lowtone10 2 years ago
Drobo.... its almost like you are speaking in tongues.... Ebo! Shota!
jjam3774 2 years ago
ZFS is the only way up :D
LordBonkers 2 years ago
I have a Freenas and it brillient but I completely understand where your coming from about loosing data, my friend is a Cisco engineer and he has had 6 hard dives fail on his home server this year!! Something I am not willing to risk with my Freenas so for sake of peace of mind I am buying a Drobo next month :)
wobstuff 2 years ago
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THIS GUY LOOKS LIKE A PIG. I think he is mexican too.
Armornone 2 years ago
What happens when the power supply fails in ANY of the Drobo devices? You never covered what happens in that case. I think in a server solution - that is a better option. Unfortunately a good raid card is going to cost you $500 and its going to have all the Drobo features and addons with more stability, speed, flexibility and RELIABILITY. In the event of a power supply failure on a server, just replace and go...
SpeedHacks 2 years ago 5
@SpeedHacks Well, I have a droboshare and I had a problem with my power supply. IT is a an external brick to reduce heat problems within the box and therefore need less cooling. They just swapped the power supply for me.... job done.
gandilas 1 year ago
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SpeedHacks 2 years ago
Lets not forget Openfiler. With Openfiler you could add drive space when you what-check it out. I'm a Linux user so I've been watching you videos for a while now.
vwbond 2 years ago
Drobo is one the best ,,Totally agree with this guy ...Well explained and thanks for the video ..God Bless you
liderlider 2 years ago
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I like to think I am a great, great thing. And all my reviews are AMAZING... I feel like such a star. And, i want to squash all the rumors about me and my voracious appetite for Seagate 1.5TB drives. I just am a big boy with a bad appetite.... How can you hold that against me?
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deaddrobo 2 years ago
Drobo is total shit. And their customer service is terrible. Don't by that bullshit.
rabid 2 years ago 2
I agree with the point you have made for and against both the Drobo and FreeNAS. But. And please don't take this personally. The FreeNAS build in my opinion is more of a.... existing 'thing'. In the scence that you install it on something you already have laying around. But I totaly agree with you on your points for and against.
I love watching In Depth Look :)
Keep Them Coming :)
290195 2 years ago 2
hi were can i download drobo application manager link would be great.
appsfinder 2 years ago
can you use drobo without the raid. im looking for a multi drive enclosure. Less power bricks and cables
roger767 2 years ago
FreeNAS is a software project, not a hardware project; its not really fair to mark down FreeNAS because of hardware limitations. Since FreeNAS now includes ZFS, I would take that over Drobo/WHS any day.
sununconquered 2 years ago
Drobo is 10-11 megabits per seconds or megabytes per seconds?
You said megabits but I think you mean megabytes.
Please tell me which one you mean.
Armornone 2 years ago
How fast is the drobo? I am sure it the speed is not limited by the connection speed but the processor and the RAID right?
Please let me know
Thanks
Armornone 2 years ago
you sound like a drobo salesman, and why use firewire 800 if your going to throttle it through the gigabit ethernet on the droboshare
debumickey 2 years ago
Liked the video, but I have a question for you. Why use the Drobo Share when you can hook up the Drobo to your Airport Extreme?
Pros/Cons?
k3nx007 2 years ago
can this drobo be shared by attaching this in an existing freenas setup via USB???
aldimca 2 years ago
Very good review. DroboPro is out now. Please do a review.
ervzman 2 years ago
I hate off the shelf non-modular hardware; If something dies in an off the shelf integrated box you are hosed. FreeNAS and others like NASlite can expand and upgrade much more easily. If you want a low power box build a machine with a mini-itx mobo. SATA would be more ideal than USB or firewire.
My landfill rescued parts junk NAS box with a PIII 1000MHz, 768MB and a GbE NIC with JBOD IDE drives eats Drobos.
jasonuscg 2 years ago
For personal use i picked a hardware nas, but i won't ever get one with no lan.
In Business i went for OpenFiler, which doesn't seem to be so popular.
But, NO LAN? or am i missing something.
rwese 2 years ago
The DRobo does sound fantastic but please inform your public that once setup FreeNAS is a headless system. In fact, if one were to run off Live CD, it's feasible that one wouldn't ever need to have a monitor attached. Provided that the default IP is initially accessible on one's LAN. Even so one could simply attach a keyboard and press 2, and return 3 times to acquire an IP via DHCP. perhaps the Drobo is simpler but a geek should relish the chance to install a distro without a monitor.
Mojomole 2 years ago
11 megabits, or megabytes? big difference.
jaredcure 2 years ago 6
... continued
I think the Drobo is cool, but when they didn't add built in network support with their latest Drobo with Firewire 800 - I thought that was lame.
One question for you - does Drobo offer a Droboshare device that can connect with the Firewire 800 instead of the usb, and would that be faster on the network?
Excellent review - I think I am going to subscribe to you videos now.
/cb
ChirpingBirdy 3 years ago
DroboShare is currently USB 2.0 only for hook up.
That said, I have streamed 3 720p videos and an SD DVD video all at once off the Drobo w/DroboShare
jupiterbroadcasting 3 years ago
Until they make a Drobo that can stream HD video - I think it is a extremely over priced device.
I am please that you did mention that it was not fast enough. I knew with the USB it would not be, but I thought that with the Drobo share added in - it would be able to be faster on the network. You saved me $600 to $700 right there - thanks!
For data backup - I use Mozy (Carbonite is basically the same) for a online backup. I have a local fileserver that handles everything else.
continue ...
ChirpingBirdy 3 years ago
seth rogan
hoopdreams3on3 3 years ago
This isn't a FreeNas vs Drobo video it's a Drobo video that mentions FreeNas occasionally.
FuzzyScaredyCat 3 years ago 2
Really awesome video! It's interesting to see these kinds of videos on here. I like the fact the youtube is freedom for any kind of video. =)
Chick6517 3 years ago
"....it's gonna last me for up to 16TB, that's a really long time...." classic! You know your a geek when you start to measure time in terabytes!!
Fitzman73 3 years ago
haha, ya you know it! I never thought about it, but I do it all the time!
-Chris ;-)
jupiterbroadcasting 3 years ago
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Fitzman73 3 years ago
Great review, as I've been waiting to hear your take on the Drobo. Currently riding the fence on getting one and my primary concern is the read/write speeds. I plan to use the Drobo to hold over 3 TB of movies and music and stream them to 3 apple TVs in the house. *Very* little of what I have is HD, but the concern is whether the Drobo can handle it, either attached directly to an Airport Extreme or through the Drobo Share.
Techlifter 3 years ago
I'll tell ya this -
The Drobo USB 2.0 version, so the "slower one" is able to stream 3 HD 720p videos, and 2 SD videos (DVD res) sustained. So the speed is good for that.
Even a 1080p Blu-Ray rip only needs about 2-4MBPS sustained, it peaks higher than that, but the Drobo seems to handle that just fine.
I really tested the heck out of video streaming, and it works great! The FW800 model is even faster than mine!
-Chris
jupiterbroadcasting 3 years ago
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stuntmasterzs 3 years ago
I just thought, could you use FreeNAS or Drobo as direct storage for video feeds from cameras. Like rather than have a PC take care of it, record directly? Also would that really be effective? If not what would you suggest? Thanks man, another great vid!
YouMockMe 3 years ago
Can you please do an in depth look of Open Dns??? that would be awesome for people that don't know about it.
coolgeek7 3 years ago
He did, just look at their channel.
Jonathanwegener 3 years ago
alright, thanks.
coolgeek7 3 years ago
nice
frytas12 3 years ago