...we look like a bunch of hypocrites.If a 17yo girl has a child by a guy 1yr older than her, its ok to arrest him & put him on a list the rest of his life sayin hes a RSO.Even when they truly love eachother, if they want to be together & raise their child the guy has to live in sep. home and the town knows hes a RSO.Then when the child goes to school they get teased/bullied everyday.Its OK that fdls forces 12y/olds to marry a 40-50yo man & have his kids though!! This has to end!
I'll never get it.This is what our, the U.S. taxpayers, money is "feeding".WE have laws in THIS COUNTRY, breaking the laws of the Country that you live in and live off of is ok if you build a huge compound..locking the Country out.You accept those checks every month from American taxpayers, then turn around and basically tell everyone "The people that pay you are evil, you cant trust them, theyll hurt you".18yo guys can go to jail for having a child w/ their 17yo GF but THIS?!?
I was born and raised in the FLDS group. I can fully explain everything from when they were cool people to when they started going extreme and broke up. I want to write a book pretty bad. I just don't have the will power to extort 10,000 of my relatives and use them to get rich.
Polygamy will not bring these women closer to God. Why can't they see that these men just want to have as many women as possible to have sex with. Whenever one of these old creeps sees a woman with big boobs they get the calling to take on another wife.
These women are totally brainwashed or know there is just no way out. Like in Colorado City, AZ. Everyone in that town is a polygamist, even the law. Everyone is a Jeffs, Barlow or Jessup.
What ever happen to separation of Church and State???? Why in the hell cannot we send all those FBI or Texas Marshalls to Border of North and South Korea now...Hell I'll pay for it all my life savings and some beer and some Pop secret to watch the show----YEAHHHHH
Can somebody please explain how having multiple wives in the first place is following the words of God. The bible says ONE man and ONE woman. NOT one man and a few teenagers and women
becouse they are not saying a damn thing the women say any thing they will get hurt or killed for it they all have been brain washed and i hope some big man in jail is makeing mr jeff his bitch now and saying how doese it fell
Here's the deal. Polygamy is illegal. Those babies match his DNA. that is the evidence that is needed to put him behind bars. Texas is just playing this one cool right now. This guy is going to be someone else's girlfriend for a change.
What a beautiful place! I've visited a Mormon Church a number of times. They're wonderful, conservative people. Anytime someone creates paradise, someone else gets jealous and destroys it.
Teenage boys are NOT kicked out of these communiies so "gross Old Men" can have all the young women. They are allowed to venture into our Corrupt, drug and murder ridden society (spelt "freedom") to see for themselves the outside and world and what is has to offer (not much I'd say) I have worked and spent a lot of time with Amish, Quacker and Mennonite people, and I guarantee you don't know what you are talking about. You rant like a bitter Lesbian
Kudos to the state of Texas for making the big, difficult decision to prosecute these criminals. Investigations and searches for criminals is rarely an easy or painless ordeal, especially when the victems are too far gone to realize that the abuses they sustained were not normal or the plan of God.
The Texas Court of Appeals has ruled in favor of the FLDS due to a stunning lack of evidence on the part of the state of Texas.
When asked to present evidence, CPS said, "we don't need evidence". Like any intelligent legal scholars would, the 3 judge panel was shocked that a police action of such magnitude was undertaken with a complete lack of evidence of any sort.
Texas is appealing to the state Supreme court, but they still have no evidence.
This compound was built for privacy & control of it's future generations and for the pleasure of it's few male leaders, ie: kicking out many teen boys so that the gross, old men can take many under- age wives. Using and abusing the mental health and bodies of the innocent is a crime!
The government needs to leave these people alone. How will a judge prosecute these people when they are much better humans than he is? It's not right. Leave them alone.
Out of Control: Who's Watching Our Child Protection Agencies, by Brenda Scott
This book of horror stories is true. The deplorable and unauthorized might of Child Protection Services is capable of reaching into and destroying any home in America. No matter how innocent and happy your family may be, you are one accusation away from disaster. Every year, it is estimated that over 1 million people are falsely accused of child abuse in this country. You could be next.
Several years ago the local CPS in Wenatchee, Washington, got the word from the state office to find some cases to justify its budget. Thus began a modern day Salem Witch Hunt that resulted in the arrest of 43 adults on 30,000 counts of sex abuse against 60 children.
The town of Wenatchee, Wash., made world headlines in 1994 and 1995 when police and state social workers undertook what was then called the nation's most extensive child sex-abuse investigation. In February 1998, the Post-Intelligencer published a series of articles that documented overzealous -- and even abusive -- actions by Perez and social service caseworkers, civil rights violations by judges and prosecutors as well as sloppy work by public defenders
Cristo359 Said two original posts back...Blessed are the prosecuted for righteousness. Blessed are those reviled and spoken about falsely. Cristo359 also said FLDS boys grow up to be industrious. Very successful in construction contracts. And the FLDS have no need to take welfare. FLDS is hated by those who lose out to the FLDS in these business ventures.
And the women are all so soft spoken, like timid mice when interviewed on TV! This is all the world they know. They themselves are children of polygamists. It's a double edged sword: Does the state step in on the side of the children, or does the First Amendment apply?
A New "Yawwhk" accent or "Suuuthern" accent have nothing to do with the way these women speak! They speak like women from the victorian era, saying probably what their husbands or leaders tell them to say.
Try stretchin' the brain matter a little before you jump the gun, eh, sparky? ;)
Obviously, the FLDS women of Texas don't speak like people in New York or the South, but that people throughout the US speak differently including those in the FLDS. And sounding differently doesn't mean someone is brain washed or whatever the media brain washed you to believe.
No, lawyers dictate what someone can say or not or whether to comment or not. But no, lets be quick to assume it's their husbands and leaders influencing them and risk spreading another false rumor.
FLDS men are highly industrious and very successful in the construction business. They have numerous successful companies spread across the Southwest, and some of their earnings are donated back into the church . The sect excels at underbidding other construction outfits, and it employs boys from its own community as apprentices —which turn into highly industrious adults. The FLDS has undercut its competition not just in the private marketplace, but also in government contracts.
The FLDS has undercut its competition not just in the private marketplace, but also in government contracts.awarded to an FLDS company. Like a Department of Defense contract worth $1.2 million to New Era Manufacturing, an FLDS company. New Era supplies wheel and brake components for military aircraft.
@CRISTO359 I was raised in eldorado and i dont hate them i feel bad for them as much as the flds wants every one to believe that they had the chance to leave they didnt. It was pushed all over them that we are bad people and every thing we did was wrong but flds members gave the young girls no options for childhood they werent given the choice to be a kid they were forced to be mothers at a young age and told it was an honor to be a mother at a young age. and not to mention they were abused.
On a interview some of the women said anything outside there compound was the devil but yet they were collecting welfare and food stamps funny they did not have a problem taking the devils money every adult who lived there should be killed including the women!!!
Someday Radical polygamist women/mothers will be able to run for president. Nothing goes on in that compound that does not happen in our society, in our communities. "Systemic abuse" is a term that could describe the public school down the street. The prosecution of this case will mean that you to could lose your kid for almost any reason.
With all they have in heavy equipment, buildings, and other assets, how on earth can they possibly justify going on welfare! They really aren't very moral people.
@ehunter2 george bush wasnt born in texas he now lives in texas we shouldnt be looked down apon because of him. we are not all like him i dont like guns and so what if some do. there are as many serial killers in this state than thare are any where else detroit was actually named the most violent place in the u.s. so why dont you go talk shit about another state!!!
Someone made a comment that I thought was interesting...The FLDS have for years put a gate between them and us and they have thought we are evil but now they are asking for our money, our lawyers and our help but even yet continue to spew out trash at us on youtube. Interesting hah!!!
If the catholics lived on a secluded ranch like this AH and this happened, remove the ranch, dont you see protect until u have all facts! U c/n risk 1 child being abused.
Also grits, you post here like you think that all these families are innocent when they clearly are not. They are on record admitting that arranged child marriages do occasionally occur there. This admission alone should tell you something if you have even one brain cell in your head. If they had knowledge that things like that were going on why didnt they stop it? Its just unconscionable. So by your posts here are you saying you support child abuse? Are you even cognizant of your thoughts?
Lathzz, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing Constitutional rights with a mindless high school drop out like yourself. And the only reason you're seeing zombies, is because of all the Meth your smoking, you ignorant tweeker.
Only ignorant people make so many assumptions and hurl baseless attacks as you do grits. Dont ya understand? I dont agree with how the feds did this. They constantly trample our rights these days. However, the crimes that the Feds committed that day uncovered other crimes. I dont care how it went down, my concern is keeping ALL of those children and hopefully their mothers away from that abusive situation. People shouldnt have to live like that. If you cant see reason, then i feel sorry for you.
You guys need to get an education in the importance of humanity and tolerance. I am LDS and not FLDS. I don't believe that these people are giving their children a good education for their future. But parents can make this decision for their children. The federal government set up institutions for women wanting out of the early LDS polygamist days. If texas wanted to help the children they wouldn't allow them to home school their kids.
Also, many of you here are missing the broader point of this scandal entirely. Religion is counter-productive to human spiritual evolution and development. Religion, in any form, is nothing more than a fantasy story to make people feel the illusion of security. Search your true self and find out what people really are. Awareness is all we are. We are all the same, part of a larger conglomerate. Religion distracts from the fundamental fact of BEING. Religion is nothing more than a crutch.
We should just wait to see how this turns out. Im sure the kids will go back to there mothers. It will blow over for some time but this is really just the beginning. All good things take time. These men will eventually pay for the power they precieve they have. In the real world they wouldnt be able to step out the door without peeing their pants for fear of there inferiority.
I agree with youkiss. I have learned not to beleive anything the press or even the news reports for an absolute. Who knows if there has really been any child abuse there? I doubt it. I believe the children have been very well taken care of and sheltered. Now they will be thrust into foster homes in front of TV's with things that will shock them!
Religious persecution. That's all. This Country was founded on religious freedom. These people have had their Constitutional Rights violated. We may not agree with nor understand these peoples religious beliefs, but guess what, It's none of our business. This is just a bunch of trumped up charges of child neglect, to justify the persecution of a religious group that is unaccepted by the local community. That community, and this Country as a whole, should be ashamed of themselves.
youkissmygrits; Hey dummy, you cant claim religious protection from persecution if your "religion" harms others. What planet are you from? Do you not realize that arranged child marriages were going on there by the cults'(yes they are a cult)OWN admission?! They admmitted it happens! Again, you cant claim freedom of religion when said religion harms others. Especially those incapable of defending themselves. Get a grip and come back to reality, please.
Hey lathzz,I don't even go to church. Although now, I do believe in God. At one time I was atheist like you. You'll never convince me that every kid on that ranch was being abused, you dumb fuck. What if they decided to go into a catholic church and take all of the kids and claim child abuse, because the children were being molested by a priest. If the kids on the ranch are being molested or raped, arrest the pedophiles! But that's not what they're doing.Go crawl back in a hole dip shit.
Whatever grits. You assume too much just like all the other mindless zombies out there. I never said I was atheist. You can be spiritual w/o religion. I also never said all those kids were abused. Your comparison of the Catholics to the FLDS is erroneous. FLDS folks(the kids in particular) are confined to the compund and that lifestyle so the potential for abuse is higher. They are trying to figure out right now who really are the pedos thru DNA testing since the members are so evasive.
Grits, if you have something intelligent to say, please reply to my posts. If you cant think before you type then please, crawl back into the hole YOU came from. Again, THINK before you comment. Please.
do you not get it?!?!? there are 13 year old girls being raped and having babies this is NOT NORMAL... You can't tell me that there isn't anything wrong there. I can see where your coming from but these are kids. It's hard seeing these people coming in and out of the store where I work here in San Angelo. It's sad they didn't even know what a crayon and a coloring book was. They thought the crayons were candy and tried to eat them it's Sad.
It looks to me like the town of San Angelo, Texas, Just doesn't like the idea of living around a religious group, that has different beliefs than themselves. Maybe you should have tarred and feathered them and ran them out of town. Let's not forget that this Country was founded on freedom of religion. But, I guess not in Texas. As far as 13 year olds being raped, I've seen no proof. Take a look at inner cities, and how many teenage mothers there are. This is religious persecution, nothing else.
In 'normal' society, a woman can have a child out of marraige without knowing who the father is, then spend the rest of her life having multiple partners without marraige, and this is within the law. Yet an FLDS member has more than one wife that he supports in every way, and that is criminal. Is it the marraige certificate that makes multiple partners illegal?
In 'normal' society a movie about a pregnant teen wins an Oscar, yet we are shocked when a teenage is married and pregnant? How odd.
Automedon2 In 'normal' society, a woman can have a child out of marraige without knowing who the father is, then spend the rest of her life having multiple partners without marraige, and this is within the law. Yet an FLDS member has more than one wife that he supports in every way, and that is criminal.
In 'normal' society a movie about a pregnant teen wins an Oscar, yet we are shocked when a teenage is married and pregnant? How odd.
This needs to appear in hustler magazine. old men fucking young girls. If the cunt ass dirty bitches want to go back to the compound they should be able to. they have dirty cunts. their children are retards. fuck them or send them to compton to live with the crips
as a christian and a member of the NRA, i say this raid was perfectly constitutional, and LDSraidTEXASarchive is a bigot. And he calls himself a son of liberty...rot to hell jackass.
My religion dictates that I murder everyone who is not of my faith. And since it's a "religion" you have to respect my right to freedom of religion and let me practice my religion (i.e. you have to let me kill everyone who isn't my religion). :-P
Seriously folks, just slapping the word "religion" on something shouldn't make it untouchable!
VERY VERY TRUE!!!! Thank you. By the way. Those of you on her posting saying this was an lds compound...please get it right. It is an FLDS or Fundamental Latter Day Saints compound, which is an extreme offshoot of the LDS church.
Let's put them in foster homes where the really CAN be raped and abused. Maybe we can introduce them to crime, pornography and drugs while they're there. And, how about some STDs - that will be nice and 'normal'. Best part is, they can be juggled from foster home to foster home - it always works SOOOO well.
I bet those lying motherfuckers are working overtime to find new ways to destroy these people.
I hope to God, every filthy, lying Texas official is sued into oblivion
"Or maybe they can just have a chance at a normal life?"
A normal life for who? That IS thier normal life. The Amish have live a life seperated from 'normal' society for generations. We have the absolute right to choose the way we live and raise our children, regardless how superior others think their 'normal' lives are
BREAKING NEWS ON ANDERSON COOPER---Judge ruled to to keep kids in custody; ordered DNA testing to link kids with parents; there is no proof to which kid belongs to whom becasue there are no birth certificates.
when the goverent i said all no have nothing to do , may be are a few womens abused but the 400 kids where are all ?, those poor mothers how the goverment gonna find fosters homes? nobody know what kind people take care of them? will be abused again for people who like the little kids/ sorry if i im wrong, thanx.
Don't say Canada, this only happens in British Columbia, which is a individual provence in Canada just like Texas, Colorado, Idaho, and Arizona are individual States in the U.S..
It is abusive language to refer to this ranch as a compound. We all know that when the state calls your home a compound you are on the extermination list.
The state is at fault for allowing this to go on for a long time in the first place,they should send the children back to their mothers and establish a police station and court in their community so that in the case of an abuse,they have have some refuge to go to.
BraveNoble; If you are what your name implies then you would not be protecting these assholes. This has nothing to do with religious freedom. It has all to do with TEENAGE GIRLS IMPREGNATED BY GROWN MEN AT A PRIVATE COMPOUND!!!!!!!!!! You cant claim a religious defense when your "religion" harms others. dumbass.
nvr stated that i was right or wrong... and you would probably be one of the ones that fall in the "screwed up" portion that you speak of and how old are you? like 29? you need to grow up
all those people(adults) need psychological evaluations and then be retaught the rights they have and need to learn that they have free will. and as for the children they need to be relocated, into stable homes. poor things.... im praying for all those babies..
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THIER ACTIONS CAN NOT GO WITHOUT PUNISHMENT NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RELIGION.
Americans eh? Well by George we should blow the whole continent to smithereens.
In case you don't realize it old chap, generalizing whole countries is bad, no matter who you do it to. I know it's "in" these days to be anti American, but jeez.. Try not to sound like a jerk when you do it.
WOW did you see all of our tax dollars? I had no idea welfare paid for all that. Shoot no wonder they're giving babies to babies..more babies...more welfare. AND WE ARE PAYING FOR IT! This sucks.
It was Texas authorities that removed those children and put them under protective custody, not the federal government. Besides, how would you know if Texans are being opressed if you live in Switzerland?
am tibetan who wants to seperate. I kill innocent people in Tibet in March 14. CNN, BBC and many western media told the whole world that I am doing ok to kill coz I am peacful protestor and also for the sake of religion freedom. in contrast, FLDS church are just doing alright. Why State government take away my children by offending my human rights? Child abuse in FLDS church is just nothing.
you know what, we can do eyes digging, skin peeling 50 years ago in tibet. now China does'nt alow us.
i was being scarsm,like ppl dun know where is tibet but cry for its independence, they live in california but said they were insighter, they said they knew everything china gov has done to Tibet~ peace
Respect religion? Why? Religion has to earn it's respect, just like everything else in this world. And this particular religious cult has earned not respect but scorn.
Religion freedom should be respected here just as the Tibet seperators. Let's make it fare. Why tibet seperators kill innocent people and they call it "religion freedom", "peaceful protest". Come on, Westerners, don't use double standard. Please make it fare.
that's all well and fine until the religion breaks some very basic laws, especially pertaining to child abuse. The government is not saying that these people cannot follow that faith, they are just protecting these children from sexual and physical abuse. If you watch the ABC news clip, you can tell from that interviews that these women knew what was going on was wrong because they never answered any questions pertaining to child abuse.
These FLDS Compounds are nothing more than an organized syndicate of ultra-perverted white men who use the concept of Religious Freedom as a cover for nothing more than a private sex ranch where they hav sex with 14-15 year old girls. This is NOT AT ALL what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they penned the 1st Amendment to the USC!!
I don't know the exact truth prettybabies but I do have several friends who are employed in law enforcement i 4 States and EVERY one of them says this Eldorado City FLDS event is "a really bad can-o-worms". Draw your own conclusions. Peace.
nhilst600, Indeed you are correct. The beliefs RIGHT or WRONG is not ISSUE HERE! It is this ILLEGAL TAKEOVER of WHOLE TOWN "Not A Compound As Propagandized" was based on clear LIE "HOAX" from a call by a Black Woman in Colorodo who has ALREADY been ARRESTED for making the SAME false "HOAXED" calls and False Reports to Law Enforcement.
This is about the PRESERVATION of our REPUBLIC, CONSTITUTION, and RULE OF LAW! You do not ARREST a ENTIRE COMMUNITY based on ONE false call!
Wow, look at the aerial view of this place,,,no wonder texas authorities was to get their hands on this property...and all of the stuff. It all ready for sub-dividing.
They invaded, but have yet to find this notorious deadly cheese factory, or WMCheese as it is called. I may be the only one person to consider this. The rangers caught up with Dale Barlow, but didn't arrest him. That's astonishing. Yet the government took hundreds of women and children into custody? If these people, kooky as they are, are guilty of child molestation, they should go to jail. Otherwise, it's just further erosion of all of our rights.
...we look like a bunch of hypocrites.If a 17yo girl has a child by a guy 1yr older than her, its ok to arrest him & put him on a list the rest of his life sayin hes a RSO.Even when they truly love eachother, if they want to be together & raise their child the guy has to live in sep. home and the town knows hes a RSO.Then when the child goes to school they get teased/bullied everyday.Its OK that fdls forces 12y/olds to marry a 40-50yo man & have his kids though!! This has to end!
caseyajb03 5 months ago
I'll never get it.This is what our, the U.S. taxpayers, money is "feeding".WE have laws in THIS COUNTRY, breaking the laws of the Country that you live in and live off of is ok if you build a huge compound..locking the Country out.You accept those checks every month from American taxpayers, then turn around and basically tell everyone "The people that pay you are evil, you cant trust them, theyll hurt you".18yo guys can go to jail for having a child w/ their 17yo GF but THIS?!?
caseyajb03 5 months ago
I was born and raised in the FLDS group. I can fully explain everything from when they were cool people to when they started going extreme and broke up. I want to write a book pretty bad. I just don't have the will power to extort 10,000 of my relatives and use them to get rich.
SmitHolm 8 months ago
Polygamy will not bring these women closer to God. Why can't they see that these men just want to have as many women as possible to have sex with. Whenever one of these old creeps sees a woman with big boobs they get the calling to take on another wife.
These women are totally brainwashed or know there is just no way out. Like in Colorado City, AZ. Everyone in that town is a polygamist, even the law. Everyone is a Jeffs, Barlow or Jessup.
lostindiancamp 1 year ago
mormons are not christians and are nuts
16goarmy 1 year ago
im confused as to the point of this video
Hypernova64 2 years ago
What ever happen to separation of Church and State???? Why in the hell cannot we send all those FBI or Texas Marshalls to Border of North and South Korea now...Hell I'll pay for it all my life savings and some beer and some Pop secret to watch the show----YEAHHHHH
deltaalpha21074 2 years ago
Can somebody please explain how having multiple wives in the first place is following the words of God. The bible says ONE man and ONE woman. NOT one man and a few teenagers and women
Live2Dance1564 2 years ago
What is this "bible" you speak of? Is it like the book of mormon?
1BigSlick 2 years ago
They will name him Ram Ass when he gets to the clink.. ride um cowboy with a bible in hand and a devils mask
furgurl 3 years ago
becouse they are not saying a damn thing the women say any thing they will get hurt or killed for it they all have been brain washed and i hope some big man in jail is makeing mr jeff his bitch now and saying how doese it fell
alanaroseoliver 3 years ago
Here's the deal. Polygamy is illegal. Those babies match his DNA. that is the evidence that is needed to put him behind bars. Texas is just playing this one cool right now. This guy is going to be someone else's girlfriend for a change.
chadandbarby 3 years ago
PERVERT
redman443 3 years ago
What a beautiful place! I've visited a Mormon Church a number of times. They're wonderful, conservative people. Anytime someone creates paradise, someone else gets jealous and destroys it.
kwazi6 3 years ago
@kwazi6 i'd rather be in jail
nswe2002 1 year ago
wow Shelby, your head is really up your arse.
Teenage boys are NOT kicked out of these communiies so "gross Old Men" can have all the young women. They are allowed to venture into our Corrupt, drug and murder ridden society (spelt "freedom") to see for themselves the outside and world and what is has to offer (not much I'd say) I have worked and spent a lot of time with Amish, Quacker and Mennonite people, and I guarantee you don't know what you are talking about. You rant like a bitter Lesbian
Dakoota 3 years ago
That's a cool theme song, i wish the Wiggles would use it.
jameswolney 3 years ago
For the truth about child protective services go to:
kidjacked . com
MikeHansonArchives 3 years ago
~God, I pray that you save us from out of control right wing factions that take your name in vain for their own personal gain!~
shelby1546 3 years ago
Kudos to the state of Texas for making the big, difficult decision to prosecute these criminals. Investigations and searches for criminals is rarely an easy or painless ordeal, especially when the victems are too far gone to realize that the abuses they sustained were not normal or the plan of God.
shelby1546 3 years ago
shelby1546
Read the news much?
The Texas Court of Appeals has ruled in favor of the FLDS due to a stunning lack of evidence on the part of the state of Texas.
When asked to present evidence, CPS said, "we don't need evidence". Like any intelligent legal scholars would, the 3 judge panel was shocked that a police action of such magnitude was undertaken with a complete lack of evidence of any sort.
Texas is appealing to the state Supreme court, but they still have no evidence.
dkrustyklown 3 years ago 2
This compound was built for privacy & control of it's future generations and for the pleasure of it's few male leaders, ie: kicking out many teen boys so that the gross, old men can take many under- age wives. Using and abusing the mental health and bodies of the innocent is a crime!
shelby1546 3 years ago
It's a society within a society. Closed off to outsiders for fear of being caught and held accountable for their morally corrupt practices!
shelby1546 3 years ago
The government needs to leave these people alone. How will a judge prosecute these people when they are much better humans than he is? It's not right. Leave them alone.
torden48 3 years ago
Out of Control: Who's Watching Our Child Protection Agencies, by Brenda Scott
This book of horror stories is true. The deplorable and unauthorized might of Child Protection Services is capable of reaching into and destroying any home in America. No matter how innocent and happy your family may be, you are one accusation away from disaster. Every year, it is estimated that over 1 million people are falsely accused of child abuse in this country. You could be next.
idiotsallover 3 years ago 2
Several years ago the local CPS in Wenatchee, Washington, got the word from the state office to find some cases to justify its budget. Thus began a modern day Salem Witch Hunt that resulted in the arrest of 43 adults on 30,000 counts of sex abuse against 60 children.
It was all a fabrication to justify a budget.
Many of the accused were poor and uneducated
idiotsallover 3 years ago
anybody has pics of the inside of the church?
I'll love to see how looks like....
rwzal 3 years ago
thank you for this
rwzal 3 years ago
The town of Wenatchee, Wash., made world headlines in 1994 and 1995 when police and state social workers undertook what was then called the nation's most extensive child sex-abuse investigation. In February 1998, the Post-Intelligencer published a series of articles that documented overzealous -- and even abusive -- actions by Perez and social service caseworkers, civil rights violations by judges and prosecutors as well as sloppy work by public defenders
idiotsallover 3 years ago
Cristo359 Said two original posts back...Blessed are the prosecuted for righteousness. Blessed are those reviled and spoken about falsely. Cristo359 also said FLDS boys grow up to be industrious. Very successful in construction contracts. And the FLDS have no need to take welfare. FLDS is hated by those who lose out to the FLDS in these business ventures.
MetalJacket01 3 years ago 2
too bad Steve Irwin and the Wiggles didn't intervene, it would have been a much better place. ps keep sweet!
jameswolney 3 years ago
Where's the Crocodile Hunter when we need him?!
MetalJacket01 3 years ago 2
And the women are all so soft spoken, like timid mice when interviewed on TV! This is all the world they know. They themselves are children of polygamists. It's a double edged sword: Does the state step in on the side of the children, or does the First Amendment apply?
Zickcermacity 3 years ago
People in New York speak in a funny accent, and they always appear angry. What's the matter them too? How about that Southern drawl?
Are they brainwashed?
MetalJacket01 3 years ago
A New "Yawwhk" accent or "Suuuthern" accent have nothing to do with the way these women speak! They speak like women from the victorian era, saying probably what their husbands or leaders tell them to say.
Try stretchin' the brain matter a little before you jump the gun, eh, sparky? ;)
Zickcermacity 3 years ago
Obviously, the FLDS women of Texas don't speak like people in New York or the South, but that people throughout the US speak differently including those in the FLDS. And sounding differently doesn't mean someone is brain washed or whatever the media brain washed you to believe.
No, lawyers dictate what someone can say or not or whether to comment or not. But no, lets be quick to assume it's their husbands and leaders influencing them and risk spreading another false rumor.
MetalJacket01 3 years ago
What's wrong with speaking like people from the Victorian era?
dkrustyklown 3 years ago 3
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Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
CRISTO359 3 years ago 3
FLDS men are highly industrious and very successful in the construction business. They have numerous successful companies spread across the Southwest, and some of their earnings are donated back into the church . The sect excels at underbidding other construction outfits, and it employs boys from its own community as apprentices —which turn into highly industrious adults. The FLDS has undercut its competition not just in the private marketplace, but also in government contracts.
CRISTO359 3 years ago
The FLDS has undercut its competition not just in the private marketplace, but also in government contracts.awarded to an FLDS company. Like a Department of Defense contract worth $1.2 million to New Era Manufacturing, an FLDS company. New Era supplies wheel and brake components for military aircraft.
That is why the mafia lords HATE them.
CRISTO359 3 years ago
There is no woman born into the FLDS community that gets welfare. Some outside women who can not do better than be on welfare, convert to FLDS.
That is why the other denominations HATE them.
FDLS companies do not employ border crossing workers from Mexico. Instead they employ American Born and raised men, mainly old Prussian descendants.
that is why the state of Texas HATE them
CRISTO359 3 years ago
@CRISTO359 I was raised in eldorado and i dont hate them i feel bad for them as much as the flds wants every one to believe that they had the chance to leave they didnt. It was pushed all over them that we are bad people and every thing we did was wrong but flds members gave the young girls no options for childhood they werent given the choice to be a kid they were forced to be mothers at a young age and told it was an honor to be a mother at a young age. and not to mention they were abused.
eldobandnerd 11 months ago
On a interview some of the women said anything outside there compound was the devil but yet they were collecting welfare and food stamps funny they did not have a problem taking the devils money every adult who lived there should be killed including the women!!!
savoth91 3 years ago
wat does the "f letter stand for? i know lds is latter day saints"
BSagitarius 3 years ago
Fundamentalist church of Latter Day Saints. Or..... Fools church of Little Dick Sickos. I prefer the second. Probably more true to reality:)
lathzz 3 years ago 2
keep sweet the wiggles!
jameswolney 3 years ago
Someday Radical polygamist women/mothers will be able to run for president. Nothing goes on in that compound that does not happen in our society, in our communities. "Systemic abuse" is a term that could describe the public school down the street. The prosecution of this case will mean that you to could lose your kid for almost any reason.
spinzaar 3 years ago
does anyone know if these women are allowed to have orgasms?? If so, multiple??
bitcheznhos 3 years ago
With all they have in heavy equipment, buildings, and other assets, how on earth can they possibly justify going on welfare! They really aren't very moral people.
pococolo 3 years ago 3
people who defend FLDS...think of your 10 yo daughter doing bj to their grandpa..isn't it sick?
galingkotalaga 3 years ago 12
use your stimulus check to buy a gun. we still have a right to open carry w/o permit.
cw2992 3 years ago
Another day in Texas, home of gun nuts, fundie lunatics, criminal CEO's, serial killers, and of course all of that met in George Bush.
ehunter2 3 years ago
@ehunter2 george bush wasnt born in texas he now lives in texas we shouldnt be looked down apon because of him. we are not all like him i dont like guns and so what if some do. there are as many serial killers in this state than thare are any where else detroit was actually named the most violent place in the u.s. so why dont you go talk shit about another state!!!
eldobandnerd 11 months ago
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captivefldschildren 3 years ago
Someone made a comment that I thought was interesting...The FLDS have for years put a gate between them and us and they have thought we are evil but now they are asking for our money, our lawyers and our help but even yet continue to spew out trash at us on youtube. Interesting hah!!!
julrystube 3 years ago
sick bastards! now that the kids are out let's just bomb the place!
speedbird6431 3 years ago
Lets just wait and see the DNA test. There is a reason they were ordered, we will soon find out.
sylkat1288 3 years ago
If the catholics lived on a secluded ranch like this AH and this happened, remove the ranch, dont you see protect until u have all facts! U c/n risk 1 child being abused.
sylkat1288 3 years ago
Lets see, grits-- you talk to much sh-- I support texas, the feds and CPS. I think this crap went too far and YEEHAW its over. The healing begins.
sylkat1288 3 years ago
lets go burn it down!!
maggiemay29 3 years ago
Also grits, you post here like you think that all these families are innocent when they clearly are not. They are on record admitting that arranged child marriages do occasionally occur there. This admission alone should tell you something if you have even one brain cell in your head. If they had knowledge that things like that were going on why didnt they stop it? Its just unconscionable. So by your posts here are you saying you support child abuse? Are you even cognizant of your thoughts?
lathzz 3 years ago 2
Lathzz, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing Constitutional rights with a mindless high school drop out like yourself. And the only reason you're seeing zombies, is because of all the Meth your smoking, you ignorant tweeker.
youkissmygrits 3 years ago
Only ignorant people make so many assumptions and hurl baseless attacks as you do grits. Dont ya understand? I dont agree with how the feds did this. They constantly trample our rights these days. However, the crimes that the Feds committed that day uncovered other crimes. I dont care how it went down, my concern is keeping ALL of those children and hopefully their mothers away from that abusive situation. People shouldnt have to live like that. If you cant see reason, then i feel sorry for you.
lathzz 3 years ago 2
You guys need to get an education in the importance of humanity and tolerance. I am LDS and not FLDS. I don't believe that these people are giving their children a good education for their future. But parents can make this decision for their children. The federal government set up institutions for women wanting out of the early LDS polygamist days. If texas wanted to help the children they wouldn't allow them to home school their kids.
Trandos21 3 years ago
i was a mormon but i was part of the LDS church not FLDS, i didn't even know there was such thing like this. it's fucked up.
NissyIsTheShit 3 years ago
wow mormons say fuck?
bonacci1 3 years ago
i said i was right? that means i'm not anymore.
NissyIsTheShit 3 years ago
lol didnt see it that way
bonacci1 3 years ago
these people are fucked up
000001asdf 3 years ago
Also, many of you here are missing the broader point of this scandal entirely. Religion is counter-productive to human spiritual evolution and development. Religion, in any form, is nothing more than a fantasy story to make people feel the illusion of security. Search your true self and find out what people really are. Awareness is all we are. We are all the same, part of a larger conglomerate. Religion distracts from the fundamental fact of BEING. Religion is nothing more than a crutch.
lathzz 3 years ago 2
We should just wait to see how this turns out. Im sure the kids will go back to there mothers. It will blow over for some time but this is really just the beginning. All good things take time. These men will eventually pay for the power they precieve they have. In the real world they wouldnt be able to step out the door without peeing their pants for fear of there inferiority.
julrystube 3 years ago
I agree with youkiss. I have learned not to beleive anything the press or even the news reports for an absolute. Who knows if there has really been any child abuse there? I doubt it. I believe the children have been very well taken care of and sheltered. Now they will be thrust into foster homes in front of TV's with things that will shock them!
grac27 3 years ago
Religious persecution. That's all. This Country was founded on religious freedom. These people have had their Constitutional Rights violated. We may not agree with nor understand these peoples religious beliefs, but guess what, It's none of our business. This is just a bunch of trumped up charges of child neglect, to justify the persecution of a religious group that is unaccepted by the local community. That community, and this Country as a whole, should be ashamed of themselves.
youkissmygrits 3 years ago
still doesnt make the child abuse/neglect theyve commited any more just, and for that they should be persecuted.
battleatbosworth 3 years ago
Human rights has been violated, who cares if its religion. its wrong.
EversmanSAT 3 years ago
youkissmygrits; Hey dummy, you cant claim religious protection from persecution if your "religion" harms others. What planet are you from? Do you not realize that arranged child marriages were going on there by the cults'(yes they are a cult)OWN admission?! They admmitted it happens! Again, you cant claim freedom of religion when said religion harms others. Especially those incapable of defending themselves. Get a grip and come back to reality, please.
lathzz 3 years ago
Hey lathzz,I don't even go to church. Although now, I do believe in God. At one time I was atheist like you. You'll never convince me that every kid on that ranch was being abused, you dumb fuck. What if they decided to go into a catholic church and take all of the kids and claim child abuse, because the children were being molested by a priest. If the kids on the ranch are being molested or raped, arrest the pedophiles! But that's not what they're doing.Go crawl back in a hole dip shit.
youkissmygrits 3 years ago
Whatever grits. You assume too much just like all the other mindless zombies out there. I never said I was atheist. You can be spiritual w/o religion. I also never said all those kids were abused. Your comparison of the Catholics to the FLDS is erroneous. FLDS folks(the kids in particular) are confined to the compund and that lifestyle so the potential for abuse is higher. They are trying to figure out right now who really are the pedos thru DNA testing since the members are so evasive.
lathzz 3 years ago
Grits, if you have something intelligent to say, please reply to my posts. If you cant think before you type then please, crawl back into the hole YOU came from. Again, THINK before you comment. Please.
lathzz 3 years ago
do you not get it?!?!? there are 13 year old girls being raped and having babies this is NOT NORMAL... You can't tell me that there isn't anything wrong there. I can see where your coming from but these are kids. It's hard seeing these people coming in and out of the store where I work here in San Angelo. It's sad they didn't even know what a crayon and a coloring book was. They thought the crayons were candy and tried to eat them it's Sad.
kbpkdp 3 years ago
It looks to me like the town of San Angelo, Texas, Just doesn't like the idea of living around a religious group, that has different beliefs than themselves. Maybe you should have tarred and feathered them and ran them out of town. Let's not forget that this Country was founded on freedom of religion. But, I guess not in Texas. As far as 13 year olds being raped, I've seen no proof. Take a look at inner cities, and how many teenage mothers there are. This is religious persecution, nothing else.
youkissmygrits 3 years ago
In 'normal' society, a woman can have a child out of marraige without knowing who the father is, then spend the rest of her life having multiple partners without marraige, and this is within the law. Yet an FLDS member has more than one wife that he supports in every way, and that is criminal. Is it the marraige certificate that makes multiple partners illegal?
In 'normal' society a movie about a pregnant teen wins an Oscar, yet we are shocked when a teenage is married and pregnant? How odd.
Automedon2 3 years ago
Automedon2 In 'normal' society, a woman can have a child out of marraige without knowing who the father is, then spend the rest of her life having multiple partners without marraige, and this is within the law. Yet an FLDS member has more than one wife that he supports in every way, and that is criminal.
In 'normal' society a movie about a pregnant teen wins an Oscar, yet we are shocked when a teenage is married and pregnant? How odd.
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LDSraidTEXASarchive 3 years ago
Get help S of L. Please! Give Dr. Phil a call on his hotline to appear on his Program ASAP. You are indeed one truly confused individual.
nhilst600 3 years ago
This needs to appear in hustler magazine. old men fucking young girls. If the cunt ass dirty bitches want to go back to the compound they should be able to. they have dirty cunts. their children are retards. fuck them or send them to compton to live with the crips
barrybocho 3 years ago
as a christian and a member of the NRA, i say this raid was perfectly constitutional, and LDSraidTEXASarchive is a bigot. And he calls himself a son of liberty...rot to hell jackass.
wangchung1989 3 years ago
Do not listen to this GOVERNMENT DISINFORMATION AGENT "wangchung1989"!
Charter Member of the NRA, and the Only BIGOT here is a JEW falsely stating the be a Christian to mislead people.
Do Unto Others, As You Would Have Done Unto You!
Shalom mr. "wangchung1989" the Jew Disinfornmation Agent.
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LDSraidTEXASarchive 3 years ago
This illegal and unconstitutional military raid on this community was an atrosity.
Dont be fooled by marxist jew government propaganda!
The issue is NOT whether or not you agree with these peoples beliefs.
IT IS ABOUT THE F%$#ING CONSTITUTION FOLKS!!
This illegal military raid was conducted on the false call made by a black woman in Colorodo who FAKED the call!!!!
Sons of Liberty is NOT saying we support the beliefs of LDS Community!
We are saying this is a ILLEGAL OPERATION!
LDSraidTEXASarchive 3 years ago
Has anybody located the compound on Google Earth? If so, please post the coordinates here.
satweavers 3 years ago
My religion dictates that I murder everyone who is not of my faith. And since it's a "religion" you have to respect my right to freedom of religion and let me practice my religion (i.e. you have to let me kill everyone who isn't my religion). :-P
Seriously folks, just slapping the word "religion" on something shouldn't make it untouchable!
TheMathGuy 3 years ago 8
VERY VERY TRUE!!!! Thank you. By the way. Those of you on her posting saying this was an lds compound...please get it right. It is an FLDS or Fundamental Latter Day Saints compound, which is an extreme offshoot of the LDS church.
jimmydean03 3 years ago
After seeing this, I must go smoke a bowl now.
BUDDDHA5 3 years ago
Let's put them in foster homes where the really CAN be raped and abused. Maybe we can introduce them to crime, pornography and drugs while they're there. And, how about some STDs - that will be nice and 'normal'. Best part is, they can be juggled from foster home to foster home - it always works SOOOO well.
I bet those lying motherfuckers are working overtime to find new ways to destroy these people.
I hope to God, every filthy, lying Texas official is sued into oblivion
Automedon2 3 years ago
Or maybe they can just have a chance at a normal life?
archraw 3 years ago
"Or maybe they can just have a chance at a normal life?"
A normal life for who? That IS thier normal life. The Amish have live a life seperated from 'normal' society for generations. We have the absolute right to choose the way we live and raise our children, regardless how superior others think their 'normal' lives are
Automedon2 3 years ago 2
BREAKING NEWS ON ANDERSON COOPER---Judge ruled to to keep kids in custody; ordered DNA testing to link kids with parents; there is no proof to which kid belongs to whom becasue there are no birth certificates.
bigfinewoman 3 years ago
Watch those women on Larry King; brainwashed to the max. All had the same monotonous voice.
Chapas45 3 years ago 3
when the goverent i said all no have nothing to do , may be are a few womens abused but the 400 kids where are all ?, those poor mothers how the goverment gonna find fosters homes? nobody know what kind people take care of them? will be abused again for people who like the little kids/ sorry if i im wrong, thanx.
chilesazon 3 years ago
texas, colorado, idaho, arizona & canada. bunch of sick asses.
2y8 3 years ago
Don't say Canada, this only happens in British Columbia, which is a individual provence in Canada just like Texas, Colorado, Idaho, and Arizona are individual States in the U.S..
archraw 3 years ago 2
It is abusive language to refer to this ranch as a compound. We all know that when the state calls your home a compound you are on the extermination list.
ThreeHourBreaks 3 years ago
They did the right thing, see the video, TEXAS BAPTISTS RESCUE ABUSED FLDS CHILDREN
Ecothearcy 3 years ago
The state is at fault for allowing this to go on for a long time in the first place,they should send the children back to their mothers and establish a police station and court in their community so that in the case of an abuse,they have have some refuge to go to.
thuderbay 3 years ago
Is this video supposed to be up lifting? either way these people are full of shit. fuck there religion do not agree with it at all, this is wrong
AGBWRX 3 years ago
BraveNoble; If you are what your name implies then you would not be protecting these assholes. This has nothing to do with religious freedom. It has all to do with TEENAGE GIRLS IMPREGNATED BY GROWN MEN AT A PRIVATE COMPOUND!!!!!!!!!! You cant claim a religious defense when your "religion" harms others. dumbass.
lathzz 3 years ago
The media is lying about this compound for ratings, but you're a fucking braindead zombie to realize this!
lucypunch 3 years ago
Jesus christ. Didn't anyone ever think, "Hmmm, maybe we should check this out...."?
trmpt25 3 years ago 2
what a wonderland! nice music too!
silverbluue 3 years ago
good lord
ulrek54321 3 years ago
nvr stated that i was right or wrong... and you would probably be one of the ones that fall in the "screwed up" portion that you speak of and how old are you? like 29? you need to grow up
whitehonest 3 years ago
from a distance it looks like disney land.
jamierourketen 3 years ago
all those people(adults) need psychological evaluations and then be retaught the rights they have and need to learn that they have free will. and as for the children they need to be relocated, into stable homes. poor things.... im praying for all those babies..
:(
THIER ACTIONS CAN NOT GO WITHOUT PUNISHMENT NO MATTER WHAT THEIR RELIGION.
whitehonest 3 years ago 2
You the judge and jury, bitch? Who are you to say what's right and what's wrong? American's are ALL screwed up.
propagandabydeeds01 3 years ago
This is wrong in Canada as well, what does it have to do with Americans?
archraw 3 years ago
Americans eh? Well by George we should blow the whole continent to smithereens.
In case you don't realize it old chap, generalizing whole countries is bad, no matter who you do it to. I know it's "in" these days to be anti American, but jeez.. Try not to sound like a jerk when you do it.
Artemisia0Absinthium 3 years ago
WOW did you see all of our tax dollars? I had no idea welfare paid for all that. Shoot no wonder they're giving babies to babies..more babies...more welfare. AND WE ARE PAYING FOR IT! This sucks.
vidmakr 3 years ago
A church of pimps. What a world we live in.
Criticallyrecognized 3 years ago
Respect the religion!! Free Texas!! Texasans are being oppressed by the USA government!
oc16chan 3 years ago
What is there to respect about it?
sunshineinchains 3 years ago
respect what? leave FLDS church alone.
Free Taxes!
Return California to Mexico!
silverbluue 3 years ago
It was Texas authorities that removed those children and put them under protective custody, not the federal government. Besides, how would you know if Texans are being opressed if you live in Switzerland?
HeadTater 3 years ago 2
am tibetan who wants to seperate. I kill innocent people in Tibet in March 14. CNN, BBC and many western media told the whole world that I am doing ok to kill coz I am peacful protestor and also for the sake of religion freedom. in contrast, FLDS church are just doing alright. Why State government take away my children by offending my human rights? Child abuse in FLDS church is just nothing.
you know what, we can do eyes digging, skin peeling 50 years ago in tibet. now China does'nt alow us.
silverbluue 3 years ago
i was being scarsm,like ppl dun know where is tibet but cry for its independence, they live in california but said they were insighter, they said they knew everything china gov has done to Tibet~ peace
oc16chan 3 years ago
Respect religion? Why? Religion has to earn it's respect, just like everything else in this world. And this particular religious cult has earned not respect but scorn.
TheMathGuy 3 years ago
Religion freedom should be respected here just as the Tibet seperators. Let's make it fare. Why tibet seperators kill innocent people and they call it "religion freedom", "peaceful protest". Come on, Westerners, don't use double standard. Please make it fare.
silverbluue 3 years ago
that's all well and fine until the religion breaks some very basic laws, especially pertaining to child abuse. The government is not saying that these people cannot follow that faith, they are just protecting these children from sexual and physical abuse. If you watch the ABC news clip, you can tell from that interviews that these women knew what was going on was wrong because they never answered any questions pertaining to child abuse.
HeadTater 3 years ago 2
Frankly, what does Tibet have to do with anything?
Not my country, not my problem.
Artemisia0Absinthium 3 years ago
iraq isnt either, yet millions have died there
battleatbosworth 3 years ago
These FLDS Compounds are nothing more than an organized syndicate of ultra-perverted white men who use the concept of Religious Freedom as a cover for nothing more than a private sex ranch where they hav sex with 14-15 year old girls. This is NOT AT ALL what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they penned the 1st Amendment to the USC!!
nhilst600 3 years ago
Lies and bullshit - Perhaps your willingness to believe the titilating media crap shows a little bit of your own sick mind
Automedon2 3 years ago
YOur dumb mabye if you knew better you would know the truth
prettybabies2 3 years ago
I don't know the exact truth prettybabies but I do have several friends who are employed in law enforcement i 4 States and EVERY one of them says this Eldorado City FLDS event is "a really bad can-o-worms". Draw your own conclusions. Peace.
nhilst600 3 years ago 2
nhilst600, Indeed you are correct. The beliefs RIGHT or WRONG is not ISSUE HERE! It is this ILLEGAL TAKEOVER of WHOLE TOWN "Not A Compound As Propagandized" was based on clear LIE "HOAX" from a call by a Black Woman in Colorodo who has ALREADY been ARRESTED for making the SAME false "HOAXED" calls and False Reports to Law Enforcement.
This is about the PRESERVATION of our REPUBLIC, CONSTITUTION, and RULE OF LAW! You do not ARREST a ENTIRE COMMUNITY based on ONE false call!
Sons of Liberty
LDSraidTEXASarchive 3 years ago
Religon should be respected here just as the Tibet seperators. Let's make it fare.
silverbluue 3 years ago
Wow, look at the aerial view of this place,,,no wonder texas authorities was to get their hands on this property...and all of the stuff. It all ready for sub-dividing.
Unklebillybob 3 years ago
that place looks so outdated..weird, gives me chills
xgal2 3 years ago
wow that main building was a castle.
captainimij 3 years ago
that was probably their biggest mistake.
mastersgate 3 years ago
Well, that and fucking children.
lathzz 3 years ago
I heard these people had a cheese factory on their compound. Where can I get some of that cheese?
sethdavisthefirst 3 years ago
They invaded, but have yet to find this notorious deadly cheese factory, or WMCheese as it is called. I may be the only one person to consider this. The rangers caught up with Dale Barlow, but didn't arrest him. That's astonishing. Yet the government took hundreds of women and children into custody? If these people, kooky as they are, are guilty of child molestation, they should go to jail. Otherwise, it's just further erosion of all of our rights.
rgaskey 3 years ago 3