The video and music was a nice complainant to the aircraft and men that changed the nature of war. As one can view history, once the atomic war heads show up and millions of people vaporize, war comes to an end real quick. One would hope the lessons of ww2 could be learned, however, not so, because ww3 is on the way and it's a nuclear holocaust of epic proportions.
I always believe there was another factor in the decision to drop the bomb which had more to do with ensuring Stalin was ready to bring the war to an end. Seeing the US had such a weapon must have made him think long and hard about any consideration of rolling on westwards.
I am light years away from regarding myself as 'informed', but, because of my interest in these events during the last 54 years, leads me to one unalterable conclusion.
You are completely correct.
I'm not 'taking the piss'.
I'm being fair dinkum. (I'm an Aussie, and 'Fair dinkum", is bigger than swearing on a stack of bibles, with your Mother beside you, it's that serious).
Plus, I know you're spot on, I 'worked' in some 'funny' places in my time in the military.
@twinstu50 Thank you! You know what Stalin was like. No comment on Roosevelt as a leader but he did not always grasp what a underhanded man Stalin was. Churchill understood it and I think, in all honesty, Truman understood it also.
Murdering thousands of unarmed civilians in one blow is an evil thing to do. But a wrong decision 66 years ago is not what makes the Americans hated by so many people around the world.
It's the disgusting, arrogant patriotism that makes bilions of people sick. Calling it a war does not justify atrocities and it does not make the people from the other side less than human. .
@drsjandoedel Hiroshima was the headquarters of the Japanese 2nd General Army under Field Marshal Hata. 43,000 j troops were in the city & >20k died in the bombing.
@drsjandoedel@drsjandoedel Wrong decision? easy to say sitting in your house safe and sound. Yes, it's much more humane and less evil to murder millions of Jews and Chinese slowly and methodically. We don't care if you don't like us in fact we kind of enjoy it. Dipshit
@markyboy27able Are you implying that the U.S. targeted EXACTLY two large cities in Japan? Are you aware of the extensive bombing campaign carried out with squadrons of B29s dropping conventional explosives on Japanese cities?
Perhaps it was., perhaps it was not. You and I were not apart of High Command.
I am NOT making a case for doing anything like that ever again, but I think that many American lives AS WELL AS Japanese lives were saved...becuse otherwise when we got the the shores of Japan with US troops, the Japanese would have fought to the death to defend their honor and homeland. Every boy, girl, man and woman had be indoctrinated to fight to the bitter end. That was known by High Command.
You must look at the bigger picture. While I would agree that killing civilians is horrible, it was nessesary at the time. I agree however, "proud" might be the wrong word for the plane. Rather, it is a reminder of what can happen when conflicts are ressolved by force. (which is somtimes nessesary)
@markyboy27able; R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people.
And you call this "behaved badly"?
And the answer is YES it was a justified action to stop the massive killing of civilians and prisoners of war!
To all of those who are making these comments on humanity, if you research what the Japs did to our troops, never mind Pearl Harbor, what about the POWs these people were less than human. When a country declares war, there are no "innocent" as far as I'm concerned. Either your friend or foe. There're no rules in love and war, especially once someone has already broken them. You play, you pay.
@ghostface2814 that's exactly what the Germans and Japanese thought of the Chinese and the Jewish people. what they did was monstrous but we became monsters ourselves trying to stop them.
I don't mean to be offensive, but I wonder what a survivor would say/do if they came into this museum and found this plane. again, I'M JUST KIDDING AROUND DON'T TAKE ANYTHING I SAID SERIOUSLY.
i honestly cry when i see this video it disgusts me that this thing was put up on display and now burned along with the pilot and everyone who made that evil thing. what america did was genocide plane and simple and you almost wiped out an entire race from the planet. and the fact that people take pride in this disgusts me its the more horrible symbol of our time and is being used as something to look up to. america needs to recognize what they did was wrong. i honestly do cry when i see this.
@wendellb36 almost at least the bataab death march has been recognized for being a war crime and japan could learn for there mistakes. but the arizona memorial is different it was a military instillation and mostly military officers died that day. although death is itself wrong it was during war times also japan does not celebrate that attack the way the enola gay is celebrated. the fact that the enola gay is thought of fondly be many people disgusts me.
@maluse227 what we did was wrong? we didnt try to take over other countries and brutally kill those that didnt lay down and take it. we didnt march prisoners of war to there deaths in Bataan we didnt blow up the Uss Arizona we didnt train children to fly fighter planes to crash them into navy ships .Do you want another country to attack us again?were you happy on 9/11? or do you blame that on us too/
@wendellb36 "didnt lay down take it" what did u think the atomic bomb was. death is death on 9/11 i cried along with everyone else. and the us did kill there prisoners for no reason just as the japs did they even heald them captive in internment camps in america. there was no justifiable reason to use the atomic bombs the way they did and the fact that they still fail to see it as a warcrime disgusts me. at least japan has the guts to admit what they did was wrong and not celebrate it.
@maluse227 You do understand that if we haven't bombed japan, we wouldn't be living like this today? What the Japanese wanted to do was expand their empire. How do they do it? By taking over large countries all over the world. And boy were they serious about it. They never stopped until this plane came along. And this plane ended the war, which ended the killing of our soldiers.
@ericatomic934 but in doing so we killed thousands of innocent people and we killed them all without mercy and without hesitation and planed to do it over and over again until all of japan was glass. while ill agree the bomb was good strategically morally it could not have been more wrong. the states did the very thing they accused the enemy of doing killing without mercy without hesitation hating everything about their culture imprisoning people simply because of their skin. they were monsters.
@maluse227 Yes I agree that killing the innocent is totally wrong, but we had no other choice. If we were to raid japan, more of our soldiers would've died out there. But let's all just be glad it's over.
@ericatomic934 yes but theres also the same side for the Japanese that less innocent lives of their civilians would have died and an entire generation/city full of people wouldn't have to go through some of the most horrible deaths imaginable. strategically it was the right thing to do but ethically it was not.
@maluse227 The 2 towns were warned before the bombings. Ethically it was the right thing to do for it saves so many of our soldiers lives and that's what counts. We can all be Monday morning quarterback now can't we?
@Coolrockndad ya first they wernt towns they were massive cities and no they were not warned otherwise the plane that was carrying the bomb would have been destroyed. and ethically its better for a person who has signed up to die for their country than thousands of people who wanted no part in the war to begin with.
@ericatomic934 These were not innocent people. They were supporting the Japanese war machine for both the towns bombed were maufacturing hubs for the Japenese war machine. They were warned to leave town before the dropping of both A-bombs abd they didn't. I shead no tears for the Japanese people.
Further to your comment about being warned. There were those within the American Government of the day who suggested that specific influential Japanese, (NOT the Emperor), Civillian and Military, under the umbrella of the Red Cross, be 'invited' to witness the first ever detonation of a Nuclear Device, obviously with the intent of making them aware that the next 'one' will be on the Japanese Homeland,- their choice.
I DO know that the idea was VERY NARROWLY defeated.
@Coolrockndad Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not warned in any way for anything. They were not warned they would be conventionally bombed or bombed by a new weapon. If they would have been warned to leave town then they indeed would have. It was planned months before that no warning be given and none was.
Do you say that the Americans that worked in war factories were not innocent people? How about their neighbours that didn't work in those factories?
@Coolrockndad No they were not warned, 100% they were not warned. I'm not saying they should have been
There are no rules in war so why do you whine about Pearl? Or your troops at the mercy of the Japs? Your troops showed no mercy to wounded or surrendering Jap soldiers and no mercy to their women and children at home in the 70 cities that the US firebombed to ashes.
@1Dougy85 I'll say one more time ... If the Japanese had the A-bomb they would have dropped it on us with no warning so cut the crap.
And as far as the a-hole statement you made ... "your troops" ... If it wasn't for the United States winning both fronts of WW2 you and I would be either goose stepping for the Nazi's and dead at the hands of the Japanese. Go fuck yourself!
@Coolrockndad I'll say this once now, and "ONLY" one more time later...the Japanese, during their successful offence of late 41, 42 demanded or warned many of their objectives to surrender or suffer the consequence. They also did so at Nanking 1937. Therefore, I cannot be sure that they would not have issued a warning if they had possessed an atomic bomb. They were a very honorable people. I do not say, again, that the US should have given a warning. History records that they did not
@Coolrockndad I apologize for my a hole statement, I read "it saves so many of our soldiers lives" and assumed you were American. Sorry. The United States did not win both fronts of WW2. The USSR won the war against the Nazis (much thanks) the US only helped as much as UK did. The US did do the most toward defeating Japan (much thanks) and we are grateful, many others did also help. The USSR entrance into the war was a significant factor in Japanese surrender. Does your cock reach your ass?
I noticed that our air-forces have done away with the half nude models they used to decorate the planes nose with, in fear of offending the thousands of Muslims that we're currently bombing the shit out of, I whole-heartidly applaud this display of sensitivity to another culture.
My dad was a guard for this plane. After the first bomb was dropped the U.S. asked Japan if they wanted to surrender. They said no, they would fight to the last man. Three days later the U.S. dropped the second bomb. My dad said if the bombs were not dropped the war would have lasted years and millions would have died.
@maluse227 I have talked to someone who was there! Why should I waste my time with a fool like you.
I suppose you think there was no halocaust too. You're just a dumb idiot that won't shut his mouth. The American soldiers of WW2 are rightly called "the greatest generation".
@sharpelock lol "the greatest generation" my god there the worst they killed entire citys they distroyed the rights of japanes civilians. at least japan and Germany have recognized the horrible things they have done but the states are the ones who say they have never committed genocide even though they did it twice. i dont care if you talked to someone who was there.
nice plane :) but it killed a lot of innocent ppl ,ok japs did wrong too attacking pearl harbour but at least they attacked war machines and militry ,it s somehow cowardness just drop from high altitude a single massive most distructive bomb at that time killing just innocent homes ppl and civilians ,peace be with averyone
@ronfb1946 The abomb saved at least 1 million us casualties and probably 6-8 milliion Japaneese. The fire bombing ot Tokyo killed many more that both aboms combined. It was a blessing for both sides cause it ended the war.
@ronfb1946 just to add to that aswell and especially to you blindun, the japanese attacked pearl harbour in a totally unprovoked attack and without any warning wotsoever which is why the japs totally devastated pearl harbour killing thousands of U S servicemen so not just war machines etc...people. Which in turn inevitably brought the U S officially in to WW2.
@Spenny575 On the subject of the atomic bombs, if America knew the devastation of the after effects i.e. radiation poisoning etc of the bombs, America, if they had another chance they woould have reconsiderd. Why do you think the use of an atomic weapon in the Korean war was not an option?
@Spenny575 alot of ppl closely associated with the project had a pretty good idea of what would happen, nuclear warfare after that was halted because of the controversy caused by those bombings, and the danger such weapons would be pose if they became commonplace
@Tonio99 thats a fair comment but going back to my previous comment on the korean war, i think it was General MacArthur (who didnt give a toss), was pushing Washington for the use of the weapon and it was thanks to the President at the time, Harry Truman, for using common sense and remembering that people were still suffering from the bombs dropped in WW2. Even today babies are born with problems linked to them bombs after nearly 70 years so did they know that in their pretty good idea?
I've been to the Udvar-Hazy Annex and seen Enola Gay as it hangs in this vid. Occasionally old war birds do fly. About 2 years ago a B-17 and a B-24 flew into our local airport. U could pay to take a ride, I didn't though.
its a shame, at the same time I would love to see her fly again I realize that everytime they fly one of these planes they risk losing an irreplacable historical artifact.
there was a time when people cound watch these great silver birds fly but now they are nothing but memories and museums and airshows only if they could fly in honor again...
i wonder what would be the out come if japan still didnt surrender after the second atomic bomb, or if the germans had created the atomic bomb first...cause the people that created it was germans right?
I have just viewed this short film of Enola Gay in its final resting place on static display. I would like to add that this Aeroplane marks a symbol in history of a last resort to the ending of another unneeded conflict of a poisoned minded nation. As Sir Winston Churchill WW2 british prime minister said about the Nazi's, the same for the Nips, 'They have sowed the wind, now they shall reap the whirl wind '.
That might not be it's final resting place. It could easily be returned to flight status (though it seems unlikely). Bockscar,the other a-bomb B-29,was flown to it's museum so they both could fly. All that's needed is the $ to maintain them.
@metallicastarwarsfan It certainly could not "easily" be returned to flight status. It's hanging inside a building, I've seen it. Also, this is the jet age. A prop driven bomber would have almost no chance to attack a target. "Unlikely" indeed.
ahallofcockatiels, dude you are wrong. Japan didnt serender untill after the second bombing that plane was the first. That plane is the reason that the whole world is not controlled by Nazi's It had to be done.
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This plane is evil... I mean it wiped out a whole city of innocent people. NOT to mention Japan surrendered 5 days before the bombing. think.. 140,000 people could have been spared had the surrender been decoded properly. now to get back to my 1:48 B-29 model kit
I believe that the problem with the young of Japan today is that the country itself has never admitted to the monsterous acts of genocide it comitted in China and then Asia. Therefore, people like KoneKakku feel that dropping the 'bomb' was some sort of war crime. Even today the Japanese has a very selective view of history. Without the A Bomb the invaision of the Jap homeland would have just wasted more brave young lives, the Enola Gay brought an abrupt end to Japanese imperialism.
in 1941 when the Jap's invade PH, they were thinking of one thing Geniside. kill everything that moved walked or talked. and the sad thing is we give them money for there pain they have never given to us. My family lost in that killing spree buy what I still concider a hopeless country.
To those of you too young to remember and those of you too foolish to understand.
This plane is a symbol of the American faith, the American heart, and the American desire to dare to say"You may have bruised us, you may have shaken us, you may have even scared us, but you will never detur the American fauth, the American desire, or the American will to survive.
The plane is a symbol of americans stupidity. Who else has started war , or defend it self over 1000 miles off on it's own border's?? Name one.
And lost every war or defend act , that it's started... vietnam , afghanistan , persian gulf .. If they put same sack on dollars in science , what goes on gulf's bottom and all other war zone's . Maybe we don't need any oil anymore.
I wish that one day, your ability to write effectivley will allow you to express yourself clearly. For now, be silent and go back to basic history lessons.
Consider that it took TWO atomic bombs to make them surrender. The Japanese were so stubborn that they still refused to surrender after the first. After the second, the officers begged the emperor to surrender. The blood of the Jap civilians killed in Nagasaki is squarely on the shoulders and the hands of the Japs themselves. Well, the first one is too for that matter. Jap schools should be forced to watch footage from Pearl Harbor every morning, and have a model of the Enola Gay in every class
Hmmm.. Hitler attacked in all directions (poland, france, russia, etc), Japan attacked China and the US, Saddam attacked Kuwait, Islamic terrorists commited the largest attack on civilians in history (over 2000 miles from home), russia financed communist government overthrows around the world... so exactly what are you talking about. I am reserving judgement because you may be a child or young person, and thus ignorant of some facts, so take this time to read up on real history.
For all you American haters go F yourself We are not selfish just proud. Proud we out produced, out fought and out smarted y'all. e B-29 this plane was way ahead of it's time. The Russians had to copy it and they had lots of trouble cause they could not believe it was possible like the Abomb They had to steal it like China today. America is too nice tothescumsucking rest of the world what would they do if they had our power? God knows that is why we have it not you.
@KoneKakku We dont' loose wars we end them Vietnam was a mistake but was it? i guess China, Japan, Germany and Russia and Iran have not lost a war? Duh Do you think the Americans can be defeated. Noone can compete with us or ever will. China is a wanna be USA and Russia is lost. Do you thing anyone can rival USA. Well bring it on dumbass@ I think we should remove our troops from Korea, Germany and all other and let the world go to shit cause that where its headed and they don't get it
We didn't start the war, we did what we had to do to end it. If we hadn't dropped the nukes, its estimated 40,000 to 100,000 more Americans would have been killed in battle.
Its a Countries job to protects its own, not protect the enemys.
The japs many of you like to defend, sent bombs over to the U.S. mainland on weather baloons in the jetstream, not knowing where they'd land, to kill innocent American civilians, women and children.
good post man! yes, a lot of people forget or dont know about the random bombs sent across toward california. i remember a few people actually died, did they not? so that means that technically Japs did attack the US mainland. Japs, like modern terrorists, took the cowardly dishonorable way out every time, with suicide. we need more posts like yours.
What a beautiful plane, the best of her breed. I'm so glad the Smithsonian decided to display and restore her. The the past remain the past. Dont blame this plane for the atom attacks, it didnt decide to carry the bomb, so dont persecute it like it did.
great use of your right to free speech. we conservatives keep things in order so you libs can say things like that without fear of having your head cut off by someone with a dull butterknife. conservatives = the parent, liberals = the child. only you are not a child. so wise up and be accountable for your comments.
@bulletman100 you generalize far too much, sir. As a self described liberal, I love free speech and believe that dropping the bomb was the right thing to do. Not a good thing, but an action born by cold, hard math: citizens of Hiroshima or all of japan? You have a distorted view of what liberalism is. The person you are responding to is an idiot.
Send all these self richious fools to Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran for a holiday with a stars and stripes baseball cap on their dumbass heads and watch the nice law abiding folks there greet them with open arms.....its a pity they wont be able to return to tell their story.
Too bad Truman isn't around today....... Iraq, and Iran would be off the face of the earth. This aircraft stopped the war. Hiroshima was a war machine producing city. The Japanese were inhumane and treated POWs literally like animals. Thousands of POWs were scheduled to die if Americans touched Japan's soil.
Amen to that, if the Japanese Empire had surrendered and swallowed their pride, the atom bombs would have never had to have been used. But they wouldnt give up, and so they brought a "rain of ruin from the air" on themselves. It was war, and both of our prospective countries have moved on, for the better, lets just hope something like Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happen again.
Harry Trumen was great that he decided to use the atomic bomb on Japan. I would like to ask the very clever jujujulog if he can offer a solution to end the war. Something that will kill selectively and spare the children. I hope he can invent something to prevent these children to grow up like their fathers.
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Enola gay is just the contradiction of humanity. It has to be destroyed or put in a museum as the most important kiiling innocent- people machine. American : you were wrong to dropped it : it has kiiled only childrens and innocent civilian ! Civilian people is different than government ! Don't miss your target !
i love the enola gay. it helped the united states beat the japs to end WWII. when i showed my grandpa (a former Marine in WWII fighting in the Pacific) he started to tear up
@austinup2 Excuse me but the way the US dealt with the problem was highly unorthodox as many men, women and children would agree! The US were stronger than Japan so why not just order a full ground assault on Hiroshima and Nagasaki just like the Russians did to the Germans. It woul have been more humane but still not humane enough! The US government could've just warned so those "Japs" would surrender. Why should Veteran Marines come to tears about the murder of 800,000 innocent people at the dr
My sir & brother paul tibbets: I greet you from my humble place and me grateful for you to you and atodos the men of her(it) Or: S: AIR FORCE. Thanks to your sacrifice I am free and live as freeman and not as slave. That our father has in his(her,your) holy mas his(her) glory, amen.
hermano paul tibbets: te saludo desde mi humilde lugar y te agradezco infinitamente a ti y a todos los hombres de la U.S. AIR FORCE. Gracias a tu sacrificio yo soy libre y vivo como hombre libre y no como esclavo. Que nuestro padre te tenga en su mas santa gloria, quei dios guarde al pueblo de norteamerica por siempre, amen.
OK, so extending that rationale, why not nuke the whole of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Kurdistan and be done with it? Save a lot of American and allied lives. My late-grandfather fought the Japanese and hated them since, but he never believed vapourising innocent women and children was the right thing to do.
Hmmmm... name your aircraft that delivers an atomic bomb and kills thousands of innnocent chidren after your MOTHER??...how quaint!!! Yea all those children could NEVER have been innocent, they DESERVED their deaths!! if not they would have been somewhere else.... like an American internment camp!!!
I love how some of you pretend to know so much about what should have been done during a war that you weren't alive for nor fought in. WWII was a killing war..brutal, horrific and at great cost and sacrifice to this country. But you "experts" don't want to hear about that. Just wait and see what those muslem maniacs have planned for your generation. I thank god for the B-29 "Enola Gay" and for Paul Tibbets who flew her. USMC Vietnam Veteran and damn proud of it!
Yes, we were at war. And as we all know, war is hell. But I believe Americans pride themselves on doing the right thing; we pride ourselves on not crossing certain lines. We crossed those lines.
War is Hell and a waste, but if it must be fought you must fight it to win at all costs and let history be the judge at a later time. It was the right thing to do then, and given the same circumstances also now.
I'm tired of those that think "the Japanese" have or had a lesser of a life value than U.S. citizens. Their losses were can not be deemed lesser or just by any means.
I agree. and in this war today, we have long crossed those lines and our soldiers are carrying the burden of it, told it is their job, and then they have to suffer the wounds to their souls on their own. For what? to win?
We did what we had to do to win. We did not start the conflict with the Japanese, they did. You reap what you so. And considering some of the atrocities they perpetuated, they got what they had coming to them.
For some of these anti-war fanatics, I dare them to find a vet who survived the Bataan Death March or a similar atrocity, look them straight in the eye, and tell them we were wrong to drop the bomb on our enemy, that we crossed the line.
I find it amazing that people can pretend to know how things would have worked out had we not dropped the bomb. The fact is no one really does. What is a fact is that we killed thousands people. In history class we learn about how horrible it was that the japanese attacked pearl harbor without provocation. But at least they had the decency to strike a military instillation. How would we feel if an outside entity attacked and killed our civilian population? Oh that's right...9-11.
We were at war. What part of that don't you understand? It was believed at the time that a conventional military assault would have cost nearly a million American lives. And I cannot blame Truman and his advisers for valuing the lives of Americans over those of our enemy. We made a decision. We should never have to apologize for saving countless American lives. Japan started the war. We finished it.
The video and music was a nice complainant to the aircraft and men that changed the nature of war. As one can view history, once the atomic war heads show up and millions of people vaporize, war comes to an end real quick. One would hope the lessons of ww2 could be learned, however, not so, because ww3 is on the way and it's a nuclear holocaust of epic proportions.
jmorello123 2 months ago
I always believe there was another factor in the decision to drop the bomb which had more to do with ensuring Stalin was ready to bring the war to an end. Seeing the US had such a weapon must have made him think long and hard about any consideration of rolling on westwards.
FrancoHitlini 5 months ago
@FrancoHitlini
I am light years away from regarding myself as 'informed', but, because of my interest in these events during the last 54 years, leads me to one unalterable conclusion.
You are completely correct.
I'm not 'taking the piss'.
I'm being fair dinkum. (I'm an Aussie, and 'Fair dinkum", is bigger than swearing on a stack of bibles, with your Mother beside you, it's that serious).
Plus, I know you're spot on, I 'worked' in some 'funny' places in my time in the military.
twinstu50 5 months ago
@twinstu50 Thank you! You know what Stalin was like. No comment on Roosevelt as a leader but he did not always grasp what a underhanded man Stalin was. Churchill understood it and I think, in all honesty, Truman understood it also.
FrancoHitlini 5 months ago
Finally. I was fortunate enough to visit the National Museum of the United States Air Force, one year ago.
There are too many words, but not one superlative, that can adequately describe.
With respect to those 'that did', and those 'who will', I make no statement, but merely stand, and look, in awe.
I have never seen Enola Gay.
But, to stand under, and touch 'Bockscar', was pretty big for me. (and my twin brother).
We were born on August, 6th, 1950.
twinstu50 5 months ago
Murdering thousands of unarmed civilians in one blow is an evil thing to do. But a wrong decision 66 years ago is not what makes the Americans hated by so many people around the world.
It's the disgusting, arrogant patriotism that makes bilions of people sick. Calling it a war does not justify atrocities and it does not make the people from the other side less than human. .
drsjandoedel 6 months ago
@drsjandoedel Hiroshima was the headquarters of the Japanese 2nd General Army under Field Marshal Hata. 43,000 j troops were in the city & >20k died in the bombing.
kentamitchell 5 months ago
@drsjandoedel @drsjandoedel Wrong decision? easy to say sitting in your house safe and sound. Yes, it's much more humane and less evil to murder millions of Jews and Chinese slowly and methodically. We don't care if you don't like us in fact we kind of enjoy it. Dipshit
DBLcable 1 month ago
Does anybody know the title of this music ?
SigningRacoon 6 months ago
Tomorrow 66 years ago, thank you Paul Tibbets and your crew.
You gave my parents and relatives and a huge amount of Dutch people their freedom from the Japanese !!!!
Thank you.....
ronfb1946 6 months ago
@markyboy27able Are you implying that the U.S. targeted EXACTLY two large cities in Japan? Are you aware of the extensive bombing campaign carried out with squadrons of B29s dropping conventional explosives on Japanese cities?
derfunkhaus 8 months ago
HEY BULLETMAN BETTER THEM THAN ME AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT BETTER YOU THAN ME STFU
59cva 9 months ago
@markyboy27able
Perhaps it was., perhaps it was not. You and I were not apart of High Command.
I am NOT making a case for doing anything like that ever again, but I think that many American lives AS WELL AS Japanese lives were saved...becuse otherwise when we got the the shores of Japan with US troops, the Japanese would have fought to the death to defend their honor and homeland. Every boy, girl, man and woman had be indoctrinated to fight to the bitter end. That was known by High Command.
caderly123 10 months ago
@markyboy27able
You must look at the bigger picture. While I would agree that killing civilians is horrible, it was nessesary at the time. I agree however, "proud" might be the wrong word for the plane. Rather, it is a reminder of what can happen when conflicts are ressolved by force. (which is somtimes nessesary)
caderly123 10 months ago
@markyboy27able; R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people.
And you call this "behaved badly"?
And the answer is YES it was a justified action to stop the massive killing of civilians and prisoners of war!
ronfb1946 11 months ago
@markyboy27able Oh yes it did quite a lot of good for all those moms, elderly and lots of children held captive in Japanese camps in Asia !!
I was one of those kids held captive in the former Dutch Indies!!!
ronfb1946 11 months ago
To all of those who are making these comments on humanity, if you research what the Japs did to our troops, never mind Pearl Harbor, what about the POWs these people were less than human. When a country declares war, there are no "innocent" as far as I'm concerned. Either your friend or foe. There're no rules in love and war, especially once someone has already broken them. You play, you pay.
ghostface2814 11 months ago 10
@ghostface2814 that's exactly what the Germans and Japanese thought of the Chinese and the Jewish people. what they did was monstrous but we became monsters ourselves trying to stop them.
maluse227 7 months ago
Thank you for letting me see such a historical aircraft at peace.
davefk 1 year ago
I don't mean to be offensive, but I wonder what a survivor would say/do if they came into this museum and found this plane. again, I'M JUST KIDDING AROUND DON'T TAKE ANYTHING I SAID SERIOUSLY.
LeBartman 1 year ago
maluse227 what the germans did was genocide.
corvette52104 1 year ago
@corvette52104 so was what the japanese did and so was what the americans did.
maluse227 7 months ago
maluse227 what's wrong with you?
corvette52104 1 year ago
should be in the air where she belongs
redhotbarrell 1 year ago
i honestly cry when i see this video it disgusts me that this thing was put up on display and now burned along with the pilot and everyone who made that evil thing. what america did was genocide plane and simple and you almost wiped out an entire race from the planet. and the fact that people take pride in this disgusts me its the more horrible symbol of our time and is being used as something to look up to. america needs to recognize what they did was wrong. i honestly do cry when i see this.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 do you have the same disgust when you see the USS Arizona memorial? The Bataan death march?
wendellb36 1 year ago
@wendellb36 almost at least the bataab death march has been recognized for being a war crime and japan could learn for there mistakes. but the arizona memorial is different it was a military instillation and mostly military officers died that day. although death is itself wrong it was during war times also japan does not celebrate that attack the way the enola gay is celebrated. the fact that the enola gay is thought of fondly be many people disgusts me.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 what we did was wrong? we didnt try to take over other countries and brutally kill those that didnt lay down and take it. we didnt march prisoners of war to there deaths in Bataan we didnt blow up the Uss Arizona we didnt train children to fly fighter planes to crash them into navy ships .Do you want another country to attack us again?were you happy on 9/11? or do you blame that on us too/
wendellb36 1 year ago
@wendellb36 "didnt lay down take it" what did u think the atomic bomb was. death is death on 9/11 i cried along with everyone else. and the us did kill there prisoners for no reason just as the japs did they even heald them captive in internment camps in america. there was no justifiable reason to use the atomic bombs the way they did and the fact that they still fail to see it as a warcrime disgusts me. at least japan has the guts to admit what they did was wrong and not celebrate it.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 You do understand that if we haven't bombed japan, we wouldn't be living like this today? What the Japanese wanted to do was expand their empire. How do they do it? By taking over large countries all over the world. And boy were they serious about it. They never stopped until this plane came along. And this plane ended the war, which ended the killing of our soldiers.
ericatomic934 7 months ago
@ericatomic934 but in doing so we killed thousands of innocent people and we killed them all without mercy and without hesitation and planed to do it over and over again until all of japan was glass. while ill agree the bomb was good strategically morally it could not have been more wrong. the states did the very thing they accused the enemy of doing killing without mercy without hesitation hating everything about their culture imprisoning people simply because of their skin. they were monsters.
maluse227 7 months ago
@maluse227 Yes I agree that killing the innocent is totally wrong, but we had no other choice. If we were to raid japan, more of our soldiers would've died out there. But let's all just be glad it's over.
ericatomic934 7 months ago
@ericatomic934 yes but theres also the same side for the Japanese that less innocent lives of their civilians would have died and an entire generation/city full of people wouldn't have to go through some of the most horrible deaths imaginable. strategically it was the right thing to do but ethically it was not.
maluse227 7 months ago
@maluse227 The 2 towns were warned before the bombings. Ethically it was the right thing to do for it saves so many of our soldiers lives and that's what counts. We can all be Monday morning quarterback now can't we?
Coolrockndad 7 months ago
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@Coolrockndad ya first they wernt towns they were massive cities and no they were not warned otherwise the plane that was carrying the bomb would have been destroyed. and ethically its better for a person who has signed up to die for their country than thousands of people who wanted no part in the war to begin with.
maluse227 6 months ago
@ericatomic934 These were not innocent people. They were supporting the Japanese war machine for both the towns bombed were maufacturing hubs for the Japenese war machine. They were warned to leave town before the dropping of both A-bombs abd they didn't. I shead no tears for the Japanese people.
Coolrockndad 7 months ago
@Coolrockndad
Further to your comment about being warned. There were those within the American Government of the day who suggested that specific influential Japanese, (NOT the Emperor), Civillian and Military, under the umbrella of the Red Cross, be 'invited' to witness the first ever detonation of a Nuclear Device, obviously with the intent of making them aware that the next 'one' will be on the Japanese Homeland,- their choice.
I DO know that the idea was VERY NARROWLY defeated.
twinstu50 5 months ago
@Coolrockndad Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not warned in any way for anything. They were not warned they would be conventionally bombed or bombed by a new weapon. If they would have been warned to leave town then they indeed would have. It was planned months before that no warning be given and none was.
Do you say that the Americans that worked in war factories were not innocent people? How about their neighbours that didn't work in those factories?
1Dougy85 2 months ago
@1Dougy85 Please read the top post and yes they were warned; which is more then what the Japanese did on Dec. 7th, 1941.
Let me just add this; if what you say is true, of which it isn't, well to damn bad for all's fair in love and war.
If the Japanese had the A-bomb they would have dropped it on us with no warning so cut the crap.
Coolrockndad 2 months ago
@Coolrockndad No they were not warned, 100% they were not warned. I'm not saying they should have been
There are no rules in war so why do you whine about Pearl? Or your troops at the mercy of the Japs? Your troops showed no mercy to wounded or surrendering Jap soldiers and no mercy to their women and children at home in the 70 cities that the US firebombed to ashes.
1Dougy85 2 months ago
@1Dougy85 I'll say one more time ... If the Japanese had the A-bomb they would have dropped it on us with no warning so cut the crap.
And as far as the a-hole statement you made ... "your troops" ... If it wasn't for the United States winning both fronts of WW2 you and I would be either goose stepping for the Nazi's and dead at the hands of the Japanese. Go fuck yourself!
Coolrockndad 2 months ago
@Coolrockndad I'll say this once now, and "ONLY" one more time later...the Japanese, during their successful offence of late 41, 42 demanded or warned many of their objectives to surrender or suffer the consequence. They also did so at Nanking 1937. Therefore, I cannot be sure that they would not have issued a warning if they had possessed an atomic bomb. They were a very honorable people. I do not say, again, that the US should have given a warning. History records that they did not
1Dougy85 2 months ago
@Coolrockndad I apologize for my a hole statement, I read "it saves so many of our soldiers lives" and assumed you were American. Sorry. The United States did not win both fronts of WW2. The USSR won the war against the Nazis (much thanks) the US only helped as much as UK did. The US did do the most toward defeating Japan (much thanks) and we are grateful, many others did also help. The USSR entrance into the war was a significant factor in Japanese surrender. Does your cock reach your ass?
1Dougy85 2 months ago
I noticed that our air-forces have done away with the half nude models they used to decorate the planes nose with, in fear of offending the thousands of Muslims that we're currently bombing the shit out of, I whole-heartidly applaud this display of sensitivity to another culture.
SimboSays 1 year ago
My dad was a guard for this plane. After the first bomb was dropped the U.S. asked Japan if they wanted to surrender. They said no, they would fight to the last man. Three days later the U.S. dropped the second bomb. My dad said if the bombs were not dropped the war would have lasted years and millions would have died.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock that is just blatantly not true
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 You're an idiot. Don't waste any more of my time moron.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock spoken like someone who truly has nothing intelligent to say and no valid arguments.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 I have talked to someone who was there! Why should I waste my time with a fool like you.
I suppose you think there was no halocaust too. You're just a dumb idiot that won't shut his mouth. The American soldiers of WW2 are rightly called "the greatest generation".
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock lol "the greatest generation" my god there the worst they killed entire citys they distroyed the rights of japanes civilians. at least japan and Germany have recognized the horrible things they have done but the states are the ones who say they have never committed genocide even though they did it twice. i dont care if you talked to someone who was there.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 stupid @ss!
sharpelock 1 year ago
@maluse227 Damn japs
sharpelock 1 year ago
@maluse227 Try to conquer the world and come over here and Pearl Harbor us...you got your asses kicked didnt you.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock im not jap. and yes you did win the war but you still committed genocide.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 God bless the USA.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock god never cared about the USA. he never cared about one country he loves people not borders.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 I'm tired of responding to this terrorist.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock hey last i checked i wasnt the one who supports blowing up an entire city to scare people like you.
maluse227 1 year ago
@maluse227 You're such a snot. Your mommy and daddy should spank you and send you to bed without supper.
sharpelock 1 year ago
@sharpelock and you should go back to school and learn that killing people is wrong.
maluse227 1 year ago
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@sharpelock and you should go back to school and learn that killing people is wrong.
maluse227 1 year ago
if only they could take it over to wendover for the airshow
ihazdata 1 year ago
big respect to this plane stupid japs got what was coming to them
stridetide155 1 year ago
@stridetide155 that is just insanely wrong
maluse227 1 year ago
criminal!!!
MrOsvaldomustang 1 year ago
nice plane :) but it killed a lot of innocent ppl ,ok japs did wrong too attacking pearl harbour but at least they attacked war machines and militry ,it s somehow cowardness just drop from high altitude a single massive most distructive bomb at that time killing just innocent homes ppl and civilians ,peace be with averyone
blindun 1 year ago
@blindun : Oh, come on! Do some more research...
The Japanese killed millions of innocent Chinese and hundred thousands
of others throughout the far east.
By dropping the bombs they saved at least some hundred thousand people
being held captive in camps, like my parents in the former Dutch Indies.
Thank you Enola Gay and crew, the Stars and Stripes will be rased again tomorrow.
ronfb1946 1 year ago
@ronfb1946 The abomb saved at least 1 million us casualties and probably 6-8 milliion Japaneese. The fire bombing ot Tokyo killed many more that both aboms combined. It was a blessing for both sides cause it ended the war.
danielnordeen 1 year ago
@ronfb1946 just to add to that aswell and especially to you blindun, the japanese attacked pearl harbour in a totally unprovoked attack and without any warning wotsoever which is why the japs totally devastated pearl harbour killing thousands of U S servicemen so not just war machines etc...people. Which in turn inevitably brought the U S officially in to WW2.
Spenny575 1 year ago
@Spenny575 On the subject of the atomic bombs, if America knew the devastation of the after effects i.e. radiation poisoning etc of the bombs, America, if they had another chance they woould have reconsiderd. Why do you think the use of an atomic weapon in the Korean war was not an option?
Spenny575 1 year ago
@Spenny575 alot of ppl closely associated with the project had a pretty good idea of what would happen, nuclear warfare after that was halted because of the controversy caused by those bombings, and the danger such weapons would be pose if they became commonplace
Tonio99 1 year ago
@Tonio99 thats a fair comment but going back to my previous comment on the korean war, i think it was General MacArthur (who didnt give a toss), was pushing Washington for the use of the weapon and it was thanks to the President at the time, Harry Truman, for using common sense and remembering that people were still suffering from the bombs dropped in WW2. Even today babies are born with problems linked to them bombs after nearly 70 years so did they know that in their pretty good idea?
Spenny575 1 year ago
I just stood on the catwalk and stared at the plane trying to get my head around what it must have been like flying that mission.
deedubya286 1 year ago
I just stood on the catwalk and stared at the plane trying to get my head around what it must have been like flying that mission.
deedubya286 1 year ago
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Saving Private Ryan is really good soundtrack
francescoanti96 1 year ago
wow.....this plane is ugly yet very pretty at the same time......and the history behind it is just amazing....
skunkboy60 1 year ago
I just watched ( B-29 Frozen in time ) I have a great respect for the People who flew these Planes during WW2
54steel 2 years ago
so elegant, yet a grim reminder of pure hell. godspeed Enola Gay!
pitbike0908 2 years ago
I've been to the Udvar-Hazy Annex and seen Enola Gay as it hangs in this vid. Occasionally old war birds do fly. About 2 years ago a B-17 and a B-24 flew into our local airport. U could pay to take a ride, I didn't though.
clintonearlwalker 2 years ago
its a shame, at the same time I would love to see her fly again I realize that everytime they fly one of these planes they risk losing an irreplacable historical artifact.
Yamaha950 2 years ago
there was a time when people cound watch these great silver birds fly but now they are nothing but memories and museums and airshows only if they could fly in honor again...
igenther99 2 years ago
good talking
kert474 2 years ago
OMG guys im not lying paul tibbets is my great great great uncle if u ever met me in real life u would have proof
CHT70 2 years ago
well for hiroshima at the time the only thing i can say about that is now you see it (BANG) now you dont
and then give lots of high fives to the crew
jamesyboy128 2 years ago
i wonder what would be the out come if japan still didnt surrender after the second atomic bomb, or if the germans had created the atomic bomb first...cause the people that created it was germans right?
rayd408 2 years ago
".cause the people that created it was germans right? "
Educate yourself and read about "Manhattan Project".
"or if the germans had created the atomic bomb first."
Germans didn't have industry to build a-bomb. Thye could have build "dirty bomb" but thats not same thing.
MokomaSusi 2 years ago
Too bad the Enola Gay can't make one more tribute flight.
Rcracer867 2 years ago
I have just viewed this short film of Enola Gay in its final resting place on static display. I would like to add that this Aeroplane marks a symbol in history of a last resort to the ending of another unneeded conflict of a poisoned minded nation. As Sir Winston Churchill WW2 british prime minister said about the Nazi's, the same for the Nips, 'They have sowed the wind, now they shall reap the whirl wind '.
elsa6027 2 years ago 13
Ah, great quote.
G0bbleMyG00 2 years ago 2
yep it is
slayer4728 2 years ago
yep it is
slayer4728 2 years ago
That might not be it's final resting place. It could easily be returned to flight status (though it seems unlikely). Bockscar,the other a-bomb B-29,was flown to it's museum so they both could fly. All that's needed is the $ to maintain them.
metallicastarwarsfan 1 year ago
@metallicastarwarsfan It certainly could not "easily" be returned to flight status. It's hanging inside a building, I've seen it. Also, this is the jet age. A prop driven bomber would have almost no chance to attack a target. "Unlikely" indeed.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@elsa6027 wow :)
redtigerreviews258 5 months ago
ahallofcockatiels, dude you are wrong. Japan didnt serender untill after the second bombing that plane was the first. That plane is the reason that the whole world is not controlled by Nazi's It had to be done.
redhotsox34 2 years ago
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This plane is evil... I mean it wiped out a whole city of innocent people. NOT to mention Japan surrendered 5 days before the bombing. think.. 140,000 people could have been spared had the surrender been decoded properly. now to get back to my 1:48 B-29 model kit
ahallofcockatiels 2 years ago
Wow, educate yourself.
G0bbleMyG00 2 years ago
I know all of the Enola Gay's crew have past away but are there any crew left from the Boxcar
5000TRAINS 2 years ago
Enola if your read it backwards spells alone!
nin131 2 years ago
alone yag, I wonder if that means something?
Rcracer867 2 years ago
Ive seen this plane myself the exbit is beautiful this is a amazing video! great job
zur2122 3 years ago
I believe that the problem with the young of Japan today is that the country itself has never admitted to the monsterous acts of genocide it comitted in China and then Asia. Therefore, people like KoneKakku feel that dropping the 'bomb' was some sort of war crime. Even today the Japanese has a very selective view of history. Without the A Bomb the invaision of the Jap homeland would have just wasted more brave young lives, the Enola Gay brought an abrupt end to Japanese imperialism.
pyewackett3822 3 years ago 2
The bomb was the best for both countries.
Wii0Lover 3 years ago 2
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hmmmm two wongs dont make a white ...and if you can justify using these sorts of weapons that way .. then we are all doomed
stimulater7 3 years ago
Waht song is this?
RedArrowsProductions 3 years ago
The main theme from "Saving Private Ryan."
calessi 3 years ago
in 1941 when the Jap's invade PH, they were thinking of one thing Geniside. kill everything that moved walked or talked. and the sad thing is we give them money for there pain they have never given to us. My family lost in that killing spree buy what I still concider a hopeless country.
MAXANDAD 3 years ago
KoneKakku- How dare you sir, we were attacked for no reason except to stop the U.S. from protecting those the Japs would enslave.
You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
I guess you like it better when we are attacked and would rather we fight on our own soil.
Leave the country if you dont enjoy the freedom this plane and it's crew afforded you
engine22emt 3 years ago
To those of you too young to remember and those of you too foolish to understand.
This plane is a symbol of the American faith, the American heart, and the American desire to dare to say"You may have bruised us, you may have shaken us, you may have even scared us, but you will never detur the American fauth, the American desire, or the American will to survive.
engine22emt 3 years ago 2
The plane is a symbol of americans stupidity. Who else has started war , or defend it self over 1000 miles off on it's own border's?? Name one.
And lost every war or defend act , that it's started... vietnam , afghanistan , persian gulf .. If they put same sack on dollars in science , what goes on gulf's bottom and all other war zone's . Maybe we don't need any oil anymore.
KoneKakku 3 years ago
I wish that one day, your ability to write effectivley will allow you to express yourself clearly. For now, be silent and go back to basic history lessons.
elroto 3 years ago
Allright. Maybe if we look a little bit trough the american lenses , one war in history has been won.
That's all. I'm not attacking on you as a person or blamin' your opinions..
KoneKakku 3 years ago
Consider that it took TWO atomic bombs to make them surrender. The Japanese were so stubborn that they still refused to surrender after the first. After the second, the officers begged the emperor to surrender. The blood of the Jap civilians killed in Nagasaki is squarely on the shoulders and the hands of the Japs themselves. Well, the first one is too for that matter. Jap schools should be forced to watch footage from Pearl Harbor every morning, and have a model of the Enola Gay in every class
bulletman100 3 years ago 2
Hmmm.. Hitler attacked in all directions (poland, france, russia, etc), Japan attacked China and the US, Saddam attacked Kuwait, Islamic terrorists commited the largest attack on civilians in history (over 2000 miles from home), russia financed communist government overthrows around the world... so exactly what are you talking about. I am reserving judgement because you may be a child or young person, and thus ignorant of some facts, so take this time to read up on real history.
bulletman100 3 years ago 4
For all you American haters go F yourself We are not selfish just proud. Proud we out produced, out fought and out smarted y'all. e B-29 this plane was way ahead of it's time. The Russians had to copy it and they had lots of trouble cause they could not believe it was possible like the Abomb They had to steal it like China today. America is too nice tothescumsucking rest of the world what would they do if they had our power? God knows that is why we have it not you.
danielnordeen 1 year ago
@KoneKakku We dont' loose wars we end them Vietnam was a mistake but was it? i guess China, Japan, Germany and Russia and Iran have not lost a war? Duh Do you think the Americans can be defeated. Noone can compete with us or ever will. China is a wanna be USA and Russia is lost. Do you thing anyone can rival USA. Well bring it on dumbass@ I think we should remove our troops from Korea, Germany and all other and let the world go to shit cause that where its headed and they don't get it
danielnordeen 1 year ago
@danielnordeen you need to wake up sunshine, i'm not an
American hater but this is not Americas world.
Spenny575 1 year ago
the 4th world war will be fort with sticks and stones
stimulater7 3 years ago
WRONG ANSWER!
WW3 ended when the Soviet Union broke up.
WW4 began on 9/11.
kentamitchell 3 years ago
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ww5 will be fought with sticks and stones
stimulater7 3 years ago
Nope. there has been only 2 world wars.
Those are just conflicts including america and UN.
Next world war would be more like the second,
But with more advanced weapons.
JokeriSokeri 3 years ago
All the haters need to shut up.
We didn't start the war, we did what we had to do to end it. If we hadn't dropped the nukes, its estimated 40,000 to 100,000 more Americans would have been killed in battle.
Its a Countries job to protects its own, not protect the enemys.
The japs many of you like to defend, sent bombs over to the U.S. mainland on weather baloons in the jetstream, not knowing where they'd land, to kill innocent American civilians, women and children.
U haters know that?
flyboymd82 3 years ago
good post man! yes, a lot of people forget or dont know about the random bombs sent across toward california. i remember a few people actually died, did they not? so that means that technically Japs did attack the US mainland. Japs, like modern terrorists, took the cowardly dishonorable way out every time, with suicide. we need more posts like yours.
bulletman100 3 years ago 4
A Japanese balloon bomb killed six school children and a pregnant minister's wife named Elsie Mitchell. (no relation)
kentamitchell 3 years ago
What a beautiful plane, the best of her breed. I'm so glad the Smithsonian decided to display and restore her. The the past remain the past. Dont blame this plane for the atom attacks, it didnt decide to carry the bomb, so dont persecute it like it did.
dylan2096 3 years ago
i agree, it is such a beautiful aircraft, it desrves a hanger all to itself
RedArrowsProductions 3 years ago
USA...Terror
Naja die Zeit wird kommen, dann werden se auch noch in den Arsch gefickt
sixthelement84 3 years ago
U.S.A = terrorist
your stupid country will destroy by the history.
marc981000 3 years ago
Only a fool stupid country to keep in a museum such thing.
9/11 bring 2 towers down. what US bring down in Hiroshima ?
And such stupid nation still proud of they own shame.
I hope that one day, when humanity be smart enough and wipeout such dump terrorist from the face of the earth.
USA didn't even know the power of the atomic bomb when droped it, that classify USA as dump terrorist.
cruzbrasil 3 years ago
great use of your right to free speech. we conservatives keep things in order so you libs can say things like that without fear of having your head cut off by someone with a dull butterknife. conservatives = the parent, liberals = the child. only you are not a child. so wise up and be accountable for your comments.
bulletman100 3 years ago 9
@bulletman100 you generalize far too much, sir. As a self described liberal, I love free speech and believe that dropping the bomb was the right thing to do. Not a good thing, but an action born by cold, hard math: citizens of Hiroshima or all of japan? You have a distorted view of what liberalism is. The person you are responding to is an idiot.
smsteve888 1 year ago
Send all these self richious fools to Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran for a holiday with a stars and stripes baseball cap on their dumbass heads and watch the nice law abiding folks there greet them with open arms.....its a pity they wont be able to return to tell their story.
Bring out the nukes NOW!!!
Givusabrake 3 years ago
Too bad Truman isn't around today....... Iraq, and Iran would be off the face of the earth. This aircraft stopped the war. Hiroshima was a war machine producing city. The Japanese were inhumane and treated POWs literally like animals. Thousands of POWs were scheduled to die if Americans touched Japan's soil.
dako143 3 years ago
Amen to that, if the Japanese Empire had surrendered and swallowed their pride, the atom bombs would have never had to have been used. But they wouldnt give up, and so they brought a "rain of ruin from the air" on themselves. It was war, and both of our prospective countries have moved on, for the better, lets just hope something like Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happen again.
dylan2096 3 years ago
この爆撃機があるかぎり日本とアメリカは原爆の事を忘れないでしょう。
nasa0885 3 years ago
great how the polished alloy shines
LambocarJPL 4 years ago
Watch Rape of NANKING On utube I love that plane
versa55 4 years ago
My freinds granpa knows the crew and helped load bomb on board.
McCawley07 4 years ago
where waas this video shot, where is the plane displayed?
ukchris64 4 years ago
why is so shining?
guzurla 4 years ago
Harry Trumen was great that he decided to use the atomic bomb on Japan. I would like to ask the very clever jujujulog if he can offer a solution to end the war. Something that will kill selectively and spare the children. I hope he can invent something to prevent these children to grow up like their fathers.
hkjazz1 4 years ago
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Enola gay is just the contradiction of humanity. It has to be destroyed or put in a museum as the most important kiiling innocent- people machine. American : you were wrong to dropped it : it has kiiled only childrens and innocent civilian ! Civilian people is different than government ! Don't miss your target !
jujujulog 4 years ago
shut up its what we had to do or the japinese would invade the U.S.A
jetdog9 3 years ago 2
I love watching this video over and over again. The Enola Gay is such a beautiful plane. Love those B-29s!
ortholvr 4 years ago
i love the enola gay. it helped the united states beat the japs to end WWII. when i showed my grandpa (a former Marine in WWII fighting in the Pacific) he started to tear up
austinup2 4 years ago 3
Thanks...I'm touched by the comment about your grandpa.
But let's please remember that these men, women and children were "Japanese." I think we needed to move past that other term a long time ago.
calessi 4 years ago
@austinup2 Excuse me but the way the US dealt with the problem was highly unorthodox as many men, women and children would agree! The US were stronger than Japan so why not just order a full ground assault on Hiroshima and Nagasaki just like the Russians did to the Germans. It woul have been more humane but still not humane enough! The US government could've just warned so those "Japs" would surrender. Why should Veteran Marines come to tears about the murder of 800,000 innocent people at the dr
tayrules2009 1 year ago
@tayrules2009 ; never heard of a humane war or a war being called a problem!
If the Russians would have had that bomb they would have dropped it!
It took the Japanese nearly two weeks to surrender after the second bomb had been dropped.....
The "murder" of 800.000 people in Japan is just a fraction of the amount of millions of victims they made in South East Asia.
ronfb1946 1 year ago
@austinup2 op of a bomb!?
tayrules2009 1 year ago
My sir & brother paul tibbets: I greet you from my humble place and me grateful for you to you and atodos the men of her(it) Or: S: AIR FORCE. Thanks to your sacrifice I am free and live as freeman and not as slave. That our father has in his(her,your) holy mas his(her) glory, amen.
marcelothecleaner 4 years ago
hermano paul tibbets: te saludo desde mi humilde lugar y te agradezco infinitamente a ti y a todos los hombres de la U.S. AIR FORCE. Gracias a tu sacrificio yo soy libre y vivo como hombre libre y no como esclavo. Que nuestro padre te tenga en su mas santa gloria, quei dios guarde al pueblo de norteamerica por siempre, amen.
marcelothecleaner 4 years ago
OK, so extending that rationale, why not nuke the whole of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Kurdistan and be done with it? Save a lot of American and allied lives. My late-grandfather fought the Japanese and hated them since, but he never believed vapourising innocent women and children was the right thing to do.
calvin1966vintage 4 years ago
Hmmmm... name your aircraft that delivers an atomic bomb and kills thousands of innnocent chidren after your MOTHER??...how quaint!!! Yea all those children could NEVER have been innocent, they DESERVED their deaths!! if not they would have been somewhere else.... like an American internment camp!!!
xymoxfox 4 years ago
I love how some of you pretend to know so much about what should have been done during a war that you weren't alive for nor fought in. WWII was a killing war..brutal, horrific and at great cost and sacrifice to this country. But you "experts" don't want to hear about that. Just wait and see what those muslem maniacs have planned for your generation. I thank god for the B-29 "Enola Gay" and for Paul Tibbets who flew her. USMC Vietnam Veteran and damn proud of it!
greggl61 4 years ago 3
what a beautiful lady
bigroy38 4 years ago
Yes, we were at war. And as we all know, war is hell. But I believe Americans pride themselves on doing the right thing; we pride ourselves on not crossing certain lines. We crossed those lines.
brando292 4 years ago
War is Hell and a waste, but if it must be fought you must fight it to win at all costs and let history be the judge at a later time. It was the right thing to do then, and given the same circumstances also now.
Excellent Video
bbrat43 4 years ago
War is Hell. And if we did not do what we did, it is quite likely some of us would not be around to debate the ethics of the war.
wallywest219 4 years ago 2
I'm tired of those that think "the Japanese" have or had a lesser of a life value than U.S. citizens. Their losses were can not be deemed lesser or just by any means.
joyville2 4 years ago
I agree. and in this war today, we have long crossed those lines and our soldiers are carrying the burden of it, told it is their job, and then they have to suffer the wounds to their souls on their own. For what? to win?
joyville2 4 years ago
We did what we had to do to win. We did not start the conflict with the Japanese, they did. You reap what you so. And considering some of the atrocities they perpetuated, they got what they had coming to them.
wallywest219 4 years ago
For some of these anti-war fanatics, I dare them to find a vet who survived the Bataan Death March or a similar atrocity, look them straight in the eye, and tell them we were wrong to drop the bomb on our enemy, that we crossed the line.
wallywest219 4 years ago
I find it amazing that people can pretend to know how things would have worked out had we not dropped the bomb. The fact is no one really does. What is a fact is that we killed thousands people. In history class we learn about how horrible it was that the japanese attacked pearl harbor without provocation. But at least they had the decency to strike a military instillation. How would we feel if an outside entity attacked and killed our civilian population? Oh that's right...9-11.
brando292 4 years ago
We were at war. What part of that don't you understand? It was believed at the time that a conventional military assault would have cost nearly a million American lives. And I cannot blame Truman and his advisers for valuing the lives of Americans over those of our enemy. We made a decision. We should never have to apologize for saving countless American lives. Japan started the war. We finished it.
wallywest219 4 years ago 3
the pilot died on this day.
forgetmenot1971 4 years ago
Yeah, but I will always salute him for sticking to his guns and not giving in to the revisionists who want to villify us for ending the war.
wallywest219 4 years ago 4