Guilty confession: I never heard of Arrau until watching this video. However, I understand now why everyone here praises his playing. Thank you for posting!
This is the greatest piece of all time. I don't know what it is about it, but the first few chords are amazing and of course the rest of it is too, but this is the most unique piece I have ever heard. So inspiring!!!
From the very first bars it is evident that we are in the presence of a master pianist who rarely performs anything that does not bear the stamp of genius. sd goh (malaysia)
Il "Carnaval" sembra ormai quasi del tutto uscito dai programmi pianistici. Credo che la causa di ciò risieda nelle straordinarie interpretazioni, consegnate alla registrazione, di Arrau, Rubinstein, Benedetti Michelangeli, che sembrano aver detto tutto su questa partitura
This video is a valuable document but the performance is not so good as in Arrau's 1939 recording posted byPhilippeLoTheEternal as a video response. Lightless and playfulness is lost here. Dmitry.
Les recomiendo el libro "Cuatro aproximaciones al arte de Arrau" de Héctor Vasconcelos, quien estudió con el. Es simplemente genial como describe a arrau y sus interpretaciones.
@Qoind I heard Sofronitsky and yes his Carnaval is pretty good but Arrau's Carnaval is more consistent, mature and coloured, gracious if you want... that's my personal opinion only...
brilliant performance: exactly how I envisioned it should be performed, but my stupid piano teacher has the most idiotic ideas on how to play this masterpiece so I'm stuck playing it badly
Not happy with recorded sounfd here .Arrau always payed attention to the tone he created .But his conception surprised me .Wow .Goes up there w/Hess,Rachmaninoff,Moseiwitsch.Someonepost the Godowsky rec .Never heard it
He ain't white for he's not right.. that mentality should have died off with our grandfathers generation. But backward minded people like you keep that flame alive!
@brassmonkeyjew i am not racist at all. lang lang is just a terrible pianist.
you have some serious issues to deal with: you're depressed, that's why it's so hard to get out of bed. your idealism is the main problem; your extremism causes you be disappointed at, not only the majority of people, but also yourself. you look for ways to fire with anger from the developed hate that's eating you alive and it's pathetic. what better place to unleash yourself than the internet?
@ibclappin men, lang lang isn't a bad pianist but its too younj and excentric im from chile and a lso a new young pianist and i love all arrau's interpretations. lang lang ,,, not a clown
@OsoBryanMeBra lang lang is a clown, absolutely no doubt about it whatsoever. if he wants to be an entertaining pianist he needs to be in touch with the society. being a complete weirdo and at the same time letting loose causes us to, aside from feeling sad, laugh AT him not WITH him, and call him a clown
@matttgic arrau played liszt differently than them, i like horowitz's and richter's liszt better than arrau's but for some liszt pieces arrau's playing is just amazing.
horowitz's schumann is great also; definitely comparable to arrau's, but arrau's beethoven is unmatched.
@ibclappin Arrau is better than Horowotz and Richter in all the repertoire,... Arrau's virtousity is beyond either Horowitz's or Richter's and artistically and spiritually spelaing he is unmatched
@arturon111 Totally agree with you! I cringe at the state of modern musicianship. It gets boring, everyone playing at top speed, piano screaming, "Listen to me! Listen to how I handle these chords!' when what is really needed is more restraint, more paying attention to the source. With Carnaval,Arrau gives every note its due weight, lets each chord breathe. Few artists play this piece with the intended balance. If they were reading a novel out loud, every character would sound the same
@CDU916 Very well put, and I couldn't agree with you more. I think the entire younger generation of pianists should all be put in single-confinement rooms for one week with nothing to eat but bread, water and vitamin supplements and nothing to do but listen to recordings of (for ex.): Claudio Arrau, Guiomar Novaes, Rudolf Serkin and Clifford Curzon. They'd all come out a bit thinner, and with a concept of music making, communication and absolute fidelity to the composer. Not to mention humility.
"Communication and music making" don't necessarily go hand in hand with "absolute fidelity to the composer" - two completely different concepts that CAN overlap.
I own Arrau's recording of Liszt's Transcendentals, and while I highly enjoy, say, 9 and 11, the "wilder" ones like Mazeppa or Wilde Jagd or No.2 are way too restrained, too boring, and too wooden. CAN'T STAND his Chasse-Neige, I much rather listen to Berezovksy or Lugansky on that.
@twooffour In point of fact, fidelity to the composer is conditio sine qua non. Far too often people confuse an emotional response to the music on the part of an overwrougt "interpreter" with musicality and musicianship. Wharever. If you prefer Berezoksky and Lugansky that is certainly your privelege. But to use words like "boring" and "wooden" when talking abt. Arrau...as Mme Lhevinne used to say, "Beware when you criticize the great."
" fidelity to the composer is conditio sine qua non"
Condition without which not? What?
Yea, fidelity to the composer, emotional involvement and "musicality" are all completely different factors that can overlap in different ways - I have no idea what you're trying to tell me.
As for Arrau, hey, you know, he NAILS those "slow romantic ones", in terms of 9 and 11, but if I find myself utterly bored while listening to his Mazeppa and feel there's no excitement to it, or find the way he plays...
@twooffour Conditio-sine-qua-non. Google it, if you want to know. I've wasted enough time on you already. I give up: everything you say is right, everything I say is wrong. Happy? Bye bye.
Well, according to Wikipedia, I already guessed the meaning right the first time:
"... refers to an indispensable and essential action, condition, or ingredient."
What I said still applies - "fidelity to the composer" and "musicianship" or "musicality" are nowhere the same thing, although they can overlap. And, you know, for a guy who stands a top of a thunderous mountain berating people for "criticzing the great", you sure get easily butthurt when faced with disagreement ;)
... the melody and tremolos in Chasse-Neige "wooden", then I don't see why I shouldn't say that.
And by hesitating to "criticize the great", one deprives them of their chance to prove themselves great in the first place. You might want to think about that one :)
@twooffour is to understand both the musicality and communication as fidelity to the composer, both concepts are intertwined with each other to give way to a much deeper interpretation of the works, well, actually not even there the interpretation, it speaks of the union of interpreter with the composer.
@twooffour then we would have to understand what is communication and the musicality and see that the separation is done with fidelity to the composer, all works express a passage or a moment of the composer's life that expressing personal attempt, the score indicates high information but also we need the intuition of the artist, a deeply humanistic education, and a deep knowledge of the composer, the period in which they lived and medium development.
Fidelity do the composer, or score, can be done or attempted, but with sloppy musical execution (i.e. following all the articulations, dynamics, but kinda meh).
Musicality without fidelity is possible if you ignore / alter aspects of the original score (or authentic performance practice, or the composer's supposed/expressed intentions or biography context) to whatever degree, yet still put thought and intution into your rendition, ...
@classicalalways berman's liszt is good but you're comparing him to arrau? and cortot's schumann? well unless you don't like schumann's music itself but happen to like changed, twisted versions of it. horowitz's schumann is great but it's more on the superficial, crowd-pleasing end. richter doesn't come anywhere near arrau, and also: no, solomon's beethoven is definitely not better than arrau's
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This kind of performance represents a "halfway point"...between the pianists of Schumann's era,who recorded this later & the totally mechanistic modern revisions that have held sway for the past 60 years. I can't get excited about it...but...It beats the hell out of Richter,Ashkenazy,Argerich,& like pianists.
Chile is a country of many great artists. This is an outstanding video of the Schumann Carnaval. There is another great performance of this piece by the Chilean Patricio Molina, you guys should hear it!
magnificent. i'm glad i saw this, until now i've only seen him playing the Appassionata as an old guy and frankly it was weak (on an international level). now i see proof that in his prime he really was one of the best
VIVA CHILE !!!!
littlegiant1972 1 day ago
omg it's Arrau? wow. great!!
woodchuckmool 1 month ago
I'm on practising this and it's killing me...
The19thKey 1 month ago
If you are watching this in 2013 thumbs up this, and then we will all know that the world didn't end!!
violadude0987 2 months ago 3
esta melodia siempre me acuerda a arrau no se porque
DonDragonJr 3 months ago
If you're watching this in 2011, thumbs up
SammySingally 6 months ago 19
@SammySingally Why would anyone thumbs up this?
TheDaveBloom 5 months ago
Guilty confession: I never heard of Arrau until watching this video. However, I understand now why everyone here praises his playing. Thank you for posting!
Patience1138 7 months ago
Love the gentle straight fingers~ GREAT METHOD!
pokewindwaker 7 months ago
This is the greatest piece of all time. I don't know what it is about it, but the first few chords are amazing and of course the rest of it is too, but this is the most unique piece I have ever heard. So inspiring!!!
jellyboo8 9 months ago
From the very first bars it is evident that we are in the presence of a master pianist who rarely performs anything that does not bear the stamp of genius. sd goh (malaysia)
301250 11 months ago 2
Arrau uno de los grandes sin duda. Y en Schumann nadie lo supera
falstaf3 11 months ago
Perfect in a classic way but I definitely prefer Mitsuko Uchida's way.
Arrau controls it, Mitsuko just lets it go.
Azerty76LH 11 months ago
Il "Carnaval" sembra ormai quasi del tutto uscito dai programmi pianistici. Credo che la causa di ciò risieda nelle straordinarie interpretazioni, consegnate alla registrazione, di Arrau, Rubinstein, Benedetti Michelangeli, che sembrano aver detto tutto su questa partitura
cinquepaolo 1 year ago
Arrau <3
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
This video is a valuable document but the performance is not so good as in Arrau's 1939 recording posted byPhilippeLoTheEternal as a video response. Lightless and playfulness is lost here. Dmitry.
dgaranin 1 year ago
Together with Uchida ,this is he best Carnaval !!
arthurtwoshed 1 year ago
Pinochet
belialah 1 year ago
Siempre me asombra la habilidad de manos y dedos que tienen los pianistas de la talla de Arrau... ciertamente es un maravilloso don ...
Ray0X0 1 year ago
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Ray0X0 1 year ago
Arrau, el mejor tocando el Carnaval de Schumann.Maravillosa obra siempre estara entre mis preferidas : )
Oscar94Music 1 year ago
unvelievable but true
richclayderman 1 year ago
Les recomiendo el libro "Cuatro aproximaciones al arte de Arrau" de Héctor Vasconcelos, quien estudió con el. Es simplemente genial como describe a arrau y sus interpretaciones.
1993eph 1 year ago
I disagree, this one is great but what about Vladimir Sofronitsky?
Qoind 1 year ago
@Qoind I heard Sofronitsky and yes his Carnaval is pretty good but Arrau's Carnaval is more consistent, mature and coloured, gracious if you want... that's my personal opinion only...
Ray0X0 1 year ago
One of my favorite Chileans!
garfreed 1 year ago
Arrau the best of the best ...
Ray0X0 1 year ago
Amazing music
pcma1970 1 year ago
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I hear numerous minor slips and sloppiness -- numerous relative to his reputation. This is annoying. It is not clean.
nearenough3 1 year ago
stfu
Archeopteryx 1 year ago
Do you not care to hear comments which are not in line with the official hagiography?
nearenough3 1 year ago
Increíble, toca Carnaval como si nada... y de forma perfecta.... simplement el mejor
nimrodmetal 1 year ago
wooooooow
ninijaparidze 2 years ago
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yuck.
flammesombres 2 years ago
Grandisimo!
rolandonavarro 2 years ago
Un grande del pianoforte e un pezzo straordinario
giorgiotognini 2 years ago 4
the last romantic...
Beautiful performance, but I prefer the Michelangeli interpretation!
abbia88 2 years ago 2
ARRAU FTW!!!!!
evifnoskcaj 2 years ago
bravo
funkyalto 2 years ago
brilliant performance: exactly how I envisioned it should be performed, but my stupid piano teacher has the most idiotic ideas on how to play this masterpiece so I'm stuck playing it badly
maxreger91 2 years ago 5
that's funny
maestroadam 2 years ago
Then ditch your piano teacher.
Schamschi 2 years ago
certainly,he was the last romantic.
kreutzo1 2 years ago 2
wasn't mahler?
MLaruelle 2 years ago
Not from my modest point of view.
kreutzo1 2 years ago
Romantics are slightly undefinable. A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are squares. You catch me?
ClarinetistJuan 2 years ago 4
awesome!!
kempff95 2 years ago
Beautiful interpretation! Full of expression. Other great interpretations have been done by Arthur Rubenstein and Anton Kuerti.
MarkARothPiano 2 years ago
its off. audio and vid
wenzhecai 2 years ago
the best recording of this carnaval .
i like how Arrau "takes" notes.
kempff95 2 years ago
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Chopin was right. Carnaval is garbage.
beemochobrahms 2 years ago
I remember this work. It's one of the few
classical selections I heard as a child.
But to me,the definitive version was done
on DECCA Records in 1954...at the Royal
Covent Garden in England. (Does anybody have that record?)
RonaldVaughan 2 years ago 2
the sound seems a little confused in "forte" passages
marirossi 2 years ago
beautiful carnaval interpretation =)
noangelnorsonne 3 years ago 3
This is a very solid, although a way too serious performance.
dgaranin 3 years ago
dunno about the thumbs down, but i can agree that arrau can sometimes be exaggerate in his seriousness .. :))
it works in his liszts (though not all the time) but in this particular schumann, i think i can agree he's a bit too serious.
deandusk 2 years ago 3
what amazingli perfect sound and video .. :X (sun) (sun) (sun) :)
4ubi 3 years ago 5
すばらしい!
SWEETHEART0917 3 years ago
The best Carnaval. Arrau's Schumann is simply superb.
eliotswann 3 years ago 22
@eliotswann Sorry, not close. Michelangeli's 1950s performance is much more consistent. Simon Barere's is far more electric.
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I AWARD THIS 1 CLARA...The soul is lax.The quick sections are just pianism.
SCHUMANNasaSACRILEGE 3 years ago
thumbs up from me for the humour :))
deandusk 2 years ago
Amatissimo schumann !!!! supremo capolavoro... Magnifico Arrau (come molti altri, e Michelangeli sublime.... d'accordo ?
ilovescarlatti 3 years ago
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your mom presses my keys
ddd1600 3 years ago
Not happy with recorded sounfd here .Arrau always payed attention to the tone he created .But his conception surprised me .Wow .Goes up there w/Hess,Rachmaninoff,Moseiwitsch.Someonepost the Godowsky rec .Never heard it
lovesGenet 4 years ago 2
no one matches Arrau's work playing beethoven, liszt and schumann.
ibclappin 4 years ago 17
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Cecil8323 2 years ago
@ibclappin
Lang Lang!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew --==([ L O L ])==--
ibclappin 1 year ago
@ibclappin
Lang Lang the new piano king!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew Lang Lang the piano clown, a wacky and crappy interpreter, and a pure dork who repels the young generation from classical music.
ibclappin 1 year ago 2
@ibclappin
Once again more typical slurs from a racist!
He ain't white for he's not right.. that mentality should have died off with our grandfathers generation. But backward minded people like you keep that flame alive!
Shameful!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew i am not racist at all. lang lang is just a terrible pianist.
you have some serious issues to deal with: you're depressed, that's why it's so hard to get out of bed. your idealism is the main problem; your extremism causes you be disappointed at, not only the majority of people, but also yourself. you look for ways to fire with anger from the developed hate that's eating you alive and it's pathetic. what better place to unleash yourself than the internet?
seek therapy.
ibclappin 1 year ago
@ibclappin
Is our time up?
And how much do i owe you, good doctor, for this session?
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew i'm just glad i can help.
ibclappin 1 year ago
@ibclappin
Oh and you have! Thank you Dr Freud for your pro bono psychoanalysis!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@brassmonkeyjew alright then. maybe now that you're cured you're gonna quit listening to lang lang.
ibclappin 1 year ago
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@ibclappin
Is our time up?
And how much do i owe you, good doctor, for this analysis?
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@ibclappin men, lang lang isn't a bad pianist but its too younj and excentric im from chile and a lso a new young pianist and i love all arrau's interpretations. lang lang ,,, not a clown
OsoBryanMeBra 3 months ago
@OsoBryanMeBra lang lang is a clown, absolutely no doubt about it whatsoever. if he wants to be an entertaining pianist he needs to be in touch with the society. being a complete weirdo and at the same time letting loose causes us to, aside from feeling sad, laugh AT him not WITH him, and call him a clown
ibclappin 3 months ago
@ibclappin okay okay u win
OsoBryanMeBra 3 months ago
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@ibclappin
Lang Lang the new piano king!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
@ibclappin What about Argerich? Richter? Rubinstein? Horowitz?.....
matttgic 1 year ago
@matttgic arrau played liszt differently than them, i like horowitz's and richter's liszt better than arrau's but for some liszt pieces arrau's playing is just amazing.
horowitz's schumann is great also; definitely comparable to arrau's, but arrau's beethoven is unmatched.
ibclappin 1 year ago
@ibclappin Arrau is better than Horowotz and Richter in all the repertoire,... Arrau's virtousity is beyond either Horowitz's or Richter's and artistically and spiritually spelaing he is unmatched
arturon111 1 year ago
@arturon111 Totally agree with you! I cringe at the state of modern musicianship. It gets boring, everyone playing at top speed, piano screaming, "Listen to me! Listen to how I handle these chords!' when what is really needed is more restraint, more paying attention to the source. With Carnaval,Arrau gives every note its due weight, lets each chord breathe. Few artists play this piece with the intended balance. If they were reading a novel out loud, every character would sound the same
CDU916 1 year ago
@CDU916 Very well put, and I couldn't agree with you more. I think the entire younger generation of pianists should all be put in single-confinement rooms for one week with nothing to eat but bread, water and vitamin supplements and nothing to do but listen to recordings of (for ex.): Claudio Arrau, Guiomar Novaes, Rudolf Serkin and Clifford Curzon. They'd all come out a bit thinner, and with a concept of music making, communication and absolute fidelity to the composer. Not to mention humility.
assindiastignani 1 year ago
@assindiastignani
"Communication and music making" don't necessarily go hand in hand with "absolute fidelity to the composer" - two completely different concepts that CAN overlap.
I own Arrau's recording of Liszt's Transcendentals, and while I highly enjoy, say, 9 and 11, the "wilder" ones like Mazeppa or Wilde Jagd or No.2 are way too restrained, too boring, and too wooden. CAN'T STAND his Chasse-Neige, I much rather listen to Berezovksy or Lugansky on that.
twooffour 11 months ago
@twooffour In point of fact, fidelity to the composer is conditio sine qua non. Far too often people confuse an emotional response to the music on the part of an overwrougt "interpreter" with musicality and musicianship. Wharever. If you prefer Berezoksky and Lugansky that is certainly your privelege. But to use words like "boring" and "wooden" when talking abt. Arrau...as Mme Lhevinne used to say, "Beware when you criticize the great."
assindiastignani 11 months ago
" fidelity to the composer is conditio sine qua non"
Condition without which not? What?
Yea, fidelity to the composer, emotional involvement and "musicality" are all completely different factors that can overlap in different ways - I have no idea what you're trying to tell me.
As for Arrau, hey, you know, he NAILS those "slow romantic ones", in terms of 9 and 11, but if I find myself utterly bored while listening to his Mazeppa and feel there's no excitement to it, or find the way he plays...
twooffour 11 months ago
@twooffour Conditio-sine-qua-non. Google it, if you want to know. I've wasted enough time on you already. I give up: everything you say is right, everything I say is wrong. Happy? Bye bye.
assindiastignani 11 months ago
@assindiastignani
Well, according to Wikipedia, I already guessed the meaning right the first time:
"... refers to an indispensable and essential action, condition, or ingredient."
What I said still applies - "fidelity to the composer" and "musicianship" or "musicality" are nowhere the same thing, although they can overlap. And, you know, for a guy who stands a top of a thunderous mountain berating people for "criticzing the great", you sure get easily butthurt when faced with disagreement ;)
twooffour 11 months ago
@assindiastignani
I think you've just proven that you've got nothing of worth to contribute - so yea, bye ;)
twooffour 11 months ago
@assindiastignani
... the melody and tremolos in Chasse-Neige "wooden", then I don't see why I shouldn't say that.
And by hesitating to "criticize the great", one deprives them of their chance to prove themselves great in the first place. You might want to think about that one :)
twooffour 11 months ago
@twooffour is to understand both the musicality and communication as fidelity to the composer, both concepts are intertwined with each other to give way to a much deeper interpretation of the works, well, actually not even there the interpretation, it speaks of the union of interpreter with the composer.
rafjuven 9 months ago
@rafjuven
Sure "intertwined", they're still different and separable criteria.
twooffour 9 months ago
@twooffour then we would have to understand what is communication and the musicality and see that the separation is done with fidelity to the composer, all works express a passage or a moment of the composer's life that expressing personal attempt, the score indicates high information but also we need the intuition of the artist, a deeply humanistic education, and a deep knowledge of the composer, the period in which they lived and medium development.
rafjuven 9 months ago
@rafjuven
I have no idea what you're talkig´ng about.
Fidelity do the composer, or score, can be done or attempted, but with sloppy musical execution (i.e. following all the articulations, dynamics, but kinda meh).
Musicality without fidelity is possible if you ignore / alter aspects of the original score (or authentic performance practice, or the composer's supposed/expressed intentions or biography context) to whatever degree, yet still put thought and intution into your rendition, ...
twooffour 9 months ago
@rafjuven
... giving attention to the MUSIC - hence, "musical".
I just had an argument with someone who thought fidelity and musicality were somehow inseparable ideals. They're not.
twooffour 9 months ago
@twooffour I do not think we understand each other well, somehow I think that certain things need to live in order to follow. It was a nice chat:)
rafjuven 9 months ago
@ibclappin They may not match, but they certainly surpass Arrau in Beethoven (Solomon), Liszt (Berman), and Schumann (Horowitz, Richter or Cortot).
classicalalways 1 year ago
@classicalalways berman's liszt is good but you're comparing him to arrau? and cortot's schumann? well unless you don't like schumann's music itself but happen to like changed, twisted versions of it. horowitz's schumann is great but it's more on the superficial, crowd-pleasing end. richter doesn't come anywhere near arrau, and also: no, solomon's beethoven is definitely not better than arrau's
ibclappin 1 year ago
Arrau's (and Richter's!) Schumann has always had a special place in my mind.
lextune 1 year ago
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This kind of performance represents a "halfway point"...between the pianists of Schumann's era,who recorded this later & the totally mechanistic modern revisions that have held sway for the past 60 years. I can't get excited about it...but...It beats the hell out of Richter,Ashkenazy,Argerich,& like pianists.
smithsherman 4 years ago
I think this is one composer he especially excells at.
mason104 4 years ago 5
wow amazing.... °o°
greenlight24 4 years ago 2
DYNAMIC..BRILLIANT!
stringinst 4 years ago 2
Arrau was one of the great pianists. Such beautiful, deep tone and extraordinary technique!
billyguns2 4 years ago 2
he has the best quarity of the sound among other great pianists. And the spacing is amazing
cookforsoul 4 years ago 4
I love his shoes also
dianawills 4 years ago 2
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Excellent piece, I found free sheet music for it on SheetMusicFox DOT com and absolutely love it!
thelmaandlouse 4 years ago
Chile is a country of many great artists. This is an outstanding video of the Schumann Carnaval. There is another great performance of this piece by the Chilean Patricio Molina, you guys should hear it!
chilean100 4 years ago
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watch Patricio Molina 's videos
chilean100 4 years ago
omg i love his shoes!
goobleglob 4 years ago
outstanding
derhawk 4 years ago
Beautiful palying. No posturing and no theatrics.
andresbello1234 4 years ago
magnificent. i'm glad i saw this, until now i've only seen him playing the Appassionata as an old guy and frankly it was weak (on an international level). now i see proof that in his prime he really was one of the best
englishphil37 4 years ago
Picture is badly out of sync with sound, especially at 5:34.
vlndv 4 years ago
sick
stridskuk87 4 years ago
Outrageous - I saw Arrau play 2 x in the 70's - he played Symphonic Etudes and Liszt Sonata
fdartmouth 5 years ago
amazing!
goobleglob 5 years ago