supose we had to replace the 135 pounds of sugar (75 dollars) in the diet with calories of fresh fruit or vegetables or meat(799 dollars). could we still pay our taxes? supose it was 1975 and we needed to balace the buget with taxes could we introduce sugar to free up money from the lunch budget?
I've been putting off watching this for weeks due to the length, but I'm so glad I did. I was already a natural foods kind of person, but the truth here is really astounding, and it's hard to refute something explained in such detail. Thank you for providing the video, and thank you to the speaker for his/your efforts towards public health.
It's disgraceful that this kind of practice continues unchecked.
Ok, so Lustig says that fruit is perfectly designed by Mother Nature and that separating the juice from the fibre is a bad idea- I agree. But then he is also an advocate of low fat milk. Does he not think that milk was perfectly designed by Mother Nature and that removing the fat might be a terrible idea? Does he not see that half the reason people crave sugar all the time is because they are so deficient in proper high quality fats?
@1ts0v3r9000 He still recommends low fat milk over full fat milk and there is literally no need. I would tell you to 'think harder' but I was brought up with manners.
Anyone uncertain about fruits and honey need to learn more about nutrition and your body's responses to these things. Don't make assumptions, and rather than relying on internet strangers, do some research and learn about your own body.
@vaness1505 mostly fructose but also has lots of vitamins. Its quantity that matters. If we just replaced HFCS or Sugar with honey and continued consuming such a large amounts we'd quite probably have the same problems.
There's a lot of people bashing the consumption of fruit based on the teachings in this video. But at 1:13:48 the lecturer himself says fruit is OK! It's the UNNATURAL intake of sugar in man made PROCESSED foods with ADDED sugar that is the issue at hand. Unnatural is unhealthy.
@BOX5500 Yes but I am a man and I can make things! including grape juice! So if buy loads of sweet grapes (high fructose) and juice them to remove the fibre and drink them as my primary source of calories I will likely still have similar fructose related problems if I were just drinking coke! All though the grapes at least have more vitamins.
@mightybaboonking You're talking about changing something from it's natural state. No one suggested you juice "loads of sweet grapes" and drink it as your "primary source of calories". Of course that is going to cause problems. Drinking too much pure water will also kill a person. You should eat grapes until you're comfortably full and then you will not eat excess sugar, but certainly not every day. Eat a variety of fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts and seeds.
@BOX5500 SUGAR IS SUGAR ie. One fructose and one glucose molecule.
Fruits contain numerous sugars, but are not high in fiber. If your goal is to reduce sugar intake, then reduction of fruits, though it seems odd, is the way to go (especially for weight reduction, diabetes, etc.). Paleolithic diet is mostly fiber (ground crops, ie. vegetables) and protein (meat). If you are taking in sugar, its best with some fiber (which fruit gives), but processed sugar foods are generally free of fiber!
Dr. Lustig & Gary Taubes were going to write a book on sugar together, but they're "going it" separately. DEFINITELY a HUGE link between sugar/HFCS (same thing) consumption & cancer. Read about it in Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories" - I'm reading the book for the 2nd time now. It's the high insulin levels, over time, that does it. NO CANCER in societies prior to sugar & flour being traded to them by explorers & colonizers. NONE. No diabetes, cavities, hi blood pressure...
I have two questions. This lecture is an hour and half, so let me know if it's covered and I missed it. 1) Are sugar replacements OK? Like Splenda or Truvia or that sort of stuff? Is the composition and effect on the body different enough to not cause all these harmful effects? 2) Can I reverse the damage I've done to my body if I cut out all "extra" sugar? I ate a horrible diet for years, lots of fast food/processed food/candy and used to be obese.
@msbunnypaws Ultimately, you want to eat REAL FOOD. So, no sugar substitutes like splenda or truvia. These still contain man-made chemicals that you do not want in your body. You can use stevia. There are brands of stevia that do not contain additional chemicals. The first that comes to mind is Sweetleaf. It's only ingredients are stevia and a little fiber. You may not be able to erase the damage but you can prevent more damage by eating clean.
@natawheee Great comment!!! Agree Completely!!! You want to eat REAL FOOD. Low carb, hi (good) fat, which amazingly EXCLUDES the "sainted" canola oil or ANY hydrogenized seed oil. Go coconut oil!!! No prob w saturated fat, that's all been a lie.
@msbunnypaws He doesn't mention sugar replacements, but I would guess as long as they aren't digested, they'll have little effect.
You can reverse damage if you cut out the sugars, and exercise to clear out the waste products within our bodies. Exercise he explains allows our body to more efficiently deal with the waste products of sugar metabolism and prevent insulin resistance.
@anonymou5p0st3r he does mention artificial sweeteners and how they don't help curb the sugar addiction.
After watching this lecture I spent one month with no white refined sugar (I never drink soft drinks anyway) and the condition of my skin improved dramatically within 3 days and I lost my (albeit small) pot belly.
@TheCompleteGuitarist I lost 30 pounds in 3 months and havent gained it back in over a year. I eat under 10g of sugar a day and over 40g of fiber a day (wish I got more)!
@anonymou5p0st3r In a radio interview he said sugar replacements haven't been studied enough for him to know if they are a good alternative, but in general they aren't regarded as being very good for you, so I'm just going to teach my palate that everything doesn't need to be so sweet. I got unsweetened almond milk and shredded wheat without any sugar. Not bad at all! He also said more studies are needed to see if the problems can be reversed, but he believes they can somewhat.
@msbunnypaws@msbunnypaws Hehe, same thing :) Its Blue Diamond Almond Breeze. I especially love the vanilla flavor, perfect for cereals! i'll have to check into shredded wheat cereals because its so hard to find a 0 sugar cereal that has fiber and doesnt have aspartame in it (like, the fiber one cereal one). Kashi makes a 0 sugar cereal as well that has 6g of fiber if youre looking for more choices. Good luck!
@onecrazyfrau Post Shredded Wheat has no sugar or salt but like 6g of fiber. It doesn't taste as good as frosted shredded wheat, but what can ya do? When it soaks up the milk, it's pretty good. I've had it every morning for breakfast for almost two weeks now. I'll definitely look into what Kashi has for cereals! Kashi is a great brand!
@msbunnypaws do yourself a favor and pick up Thrive diet book, and learn how make your own cereal. Research shows the processed stuff is less nutritious than the boxes they ship in. And kashi is pretty filled with sugars.
I love listening to this guy talk. Finally, an MD who knows the truth, who doesn't minimize or laugh at peoples' health problems, and who is serious about making changes.
It's true. Try removing fructose from your diet as much as possible. Don't even eat fruit. Garuanteed weight loss. I have done it, and now whenever I eat fructose (even fruit, like 1 banana) I get sores all over my mouth. Didn't realize how damaging it was before.
Dr. Lustig's lecture is a very good one to listen to anyone who is interested in sugar metabolism in general and HFCS. I think the most dangerous and annoying thing about HFCS is that it has become a 'catch-all' ingredient used by just about every commercial food manufacturers. I think the beverages are the biggest offenders by far, since it is very easy to over-consume. Meanwhile, at least you can easily distinguish and control cigarettes and booze.
WOW. I have learned a lot of interesting things here, by watching this. Wish I had seen this in some ways before my oldest was born. (just from the juice point alone) Granted I think everything in moderation. Very infromative.
@40:00 - when u find a mistake what do you do...Spreading human feces affects everyone who eats.
This ship he talks about is only flirting with the iceburg. Go read up on what we are doing with human feces. We grow our food on it.That corn for corn syrup Probably grown on sludge. Plants uptake toxics as well.Ecoli in flour/cookies? Go look up land application of sewage sludge.EPA Title 40 Section 503. Its real. Its happening. MRSA in meat? Ecoli on lettuce? Both exist in sludge. Bon Appitet
hey i gotta question. my mom is hypertensive and pre diabetic. ok i know low carb diet works on normal people, the question is, would my mom's body be able to keep working cz of the ketosis that occurs with low carb .... i'd highly appreciate your help
@dildatota I think it would help her to go on low carb. Make the transition slowly and up the intake of good fat like coconut oil while she cuts down the carbs. Remember I'm not a doctor though. Search for "Paleo Diet Helps Cure MS", if she eats like the woman in that video, she can't go wrong. All the best.
I watched this video on a Friday night rather than consuming irresponsible amounts of ethanol, and now I've discovered another ubiquitous, potent toxin of the same nature? My mind has been blown.
Hopefully more people will become more self aware when it comes to taking action with their health. There is no right or wrong with health. There is what works for that individual.
@furenaef I didnt say it discredited his whole research douche. It was just pathetic for that one part that he used his opinions as facts in order to come up with a bogus hypothesis. Discredit him no. Show that he's obviously bias, absolutely.
@bucnomore11 I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.
@bucnomore11 Oh I do offer my apologies as you lack a frontal lobe with the necessary neurons and synapses which are prerequisites for a sentient being. I myself, however, would be most happy to book you in for a three day cruise to travel to my location and visualize yourself making such taunts to a person of my acquaintance with the removal of an electronic discussion medium.
@furenaef you havent told me shit or given me any advice. You are the one who is lacking any competence and try to cover it up by talking like some sophisticated douche. But in reality you just continually go on about God knows what .
@bucnomore11 This has a low probability of coming to pass however as you are courageous only when your words first travel through an electronic medium to a public display forum. My belief is not strong that you would vocalize these insults when there is little spatial distance between yourself and that person. That is my thought process. I would like to know yours.
@bucnomore11 I do not fall under this category as I am 6’5, 270lbs and every day I make an effort to stimulate myofibrillar hypertrophy by inducing skeletal muscle microtrauma. I would be most enthusiastic about you saying such a thing of unkind nature to my aunty in the vicinity of my physical presence.
@bucnomore11 Have you acquired the knowledge thus far that there are people who suffer from conditions beyond their control, and are naturally in that state? My aunty, for instance, happens to be a person of that nature. She is a crane operator that has bad joints and a bad spine from operating the crane but you probably lack empathy for that case also.
@bucnomore11 The problem is you're focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?".
@52qb Yeah, he says "Barber of Seville" in later versions of the lecture. The two operas were based on the same series and the same characters and were about 30 years apart. Close, but no cigar.
There is little left to eat that isn't toxic! Some things are better than others, but do any of us really eat well? As in good healthy foods? Even us raw food vegans are eating some major toxic food. Thanks Monsanto!
We have joined you in the battle against HFCS and processed sugar and grains. The information available on this is vast and for those of us without PHDs it is difficult to wade through. The diseases that are precipitated by our modern diet are many. We look forward to learning more and helping as many people as we can with these facts.
This is so true. Obscure studies in other countries are revealing the direct relationship between hyperglycemia and cancer. The elevated sugar levels are what are causing the perfect storm for cancer growth (think supply and demand here). He needs to speak about cancer too. Once people realize the truth, McDonald's will be worse off than Marlboro.
What he says is true. I started a modified "bulletproof" Paleo diet 4 mo. ago from being a vegan for many years. Increased my EFA consumption, went gluten free, all organic, sugar free, and reduced high carb veggies (potatoes, corn - which convert to sugar) forcing my energy to come from EFAs, MCT oil which eliminates need to count calories. Since then, NO MIGRAINE headaches, no weight issues, am nearly 60 y/o and weigh less than I did in high school! Look it up: bulletproofdiet (.) com.
@xarumancer just so you know, Illuminati disbanded over 200 years ago. If you want to blame something, blame greed. It's greed that makes some companies create products that gives us sugar cravings and such, so that we will buy more
Food has been used as a weapon by the Illuminati for decades. This is all part of the plan of increased sterilization and cancer rates. Learn more at: prisonplanet . com
Also see the book "Sweet Poison" by David Gillepspie. I gave up salt and sugar and my weight dropped and so did my bad cholesterol. Eat a wide variety of whole plants and you will be healthier.
Great talk, and I'm sure a valid theory. One question: is it true that there is so much salt in Coke? Like drinking a Pizza? Sodium only scores 33mg on the Coke label - one thirtieth of a gram per 100 grams?
I usually have a hard time taking sensational titles like "The Coke Conspiracy" seriously, but watching the entire vid, there's a lot to take away from it.
It concerns me that people are coming away with the message that glucose is harmless. I heard Lustig say in an interview that glucose is a significant problem. He only said this after he was asked two or three times by a radio interviewer. I would stick with Gary Taubes who admits that both are dangerous.
@dialectical44: Any macronutrient can be a problem if consumed in disproportionate &/or large quantities. People have died from eating protein without any fat or carbs.
Lustig is saying that Glucose is hamless here. I agree about protein. But It needs to be consumed with fat (not carbs). Saturated animal fat and tropical oils can be eaten in large quantities without any deleterious effects but and vital to human health and the functioning of many bodily processes. Too much insulin causes weight gain. What causes a rise in insulin? The Carbohydrates glucose and fructose. Lustig is ignoring glucose.
@dialectical44 No, not harmless, just not toxic: A bloated, distended liver,(which Lustig describes as being caused by glucose), is certainly not a harmless situation, just because it's not toxic..
Totally agree with the presentation, we have been eating and drinking the product of the evidence base medicine (stadistic numbers from the 7 country study) without a rasoning of a good doctor base in physiolopathology . This change the life of million of people, making them sick...how many life this crap (Fructose) has taken?! No more fructose in my home....
me i get a large mc donalds coffee with 9 creams & 9 sugars
or at truck stops i get a 24oz coffee i pour of ton of cream & atleats 3 teaspoons of sugar, and i get 2 or 3 energy drinks for later and the next day....
High fructose corn syrup is Japan's revenge for World War II? What a disgusting joke to make considering the horrific extent of the damage seen in Hiroshima. Also this guy doesn't look all that lean yet is telling eveyrone why they're fat and sick, pure sanctimony.
This is why its so important to teach our children that eating excess amounts of sugar is not good for you. My mother had emergency open heart surgery only two months ago and then was immediately diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, she was not morbidly overweight. Luckily, her diabetes is so low (her a1c is only 5.5) its easier to manage but this has made me completely change the way I eat and live. Since removing sugar and eating 30-40g+ of fiber a day I've lost 30 pounds.
Some of those old people I come across are quite good-for-nothing to my dismay. They don't really eat that much sugar, they aren't fat but they get diagnosed with diabetes anyway.
@R:Right, but most people'll misunderstand: Truly whole food is 1/Virtually untouched before eaten, not ground, mashed, chopped, juiced, etc, & 2/Is perishable, thus must be fresh when eaten. (For "durianrider", it'll also be raw.) If you tell most people "whole foods", they think whole -grain-, which has been stored for an undetermined amount of time, radiated, ground, stored again, cooked, & combined with other not-whole ingredients to make bread, etc: It won't make you lean.
I've definitely noticed this in practice, the receptors that tell you you are full being turned off. Has happened at Thanksgiving dinner by way of orange juice (and probably many other HFCS laden items). Severe leptin shortage going on there.
Wendy's chili is pretty bad about killing the leptin response. It REALLY helps to know these things.
Awesome chemistry lesson, I love biochemistry. Thanks to cfk who turned me on to this video. I will be passing it on!!
We have health lessons at schools but we didnt get any information of this all ever, all we got were booklets from government which supposed to taught about dangerous food additives but all that was in those were claims that its impossible to make food without additives and not a single additive mentioned dangerous, i saw my classmates brainwashed right in front of me.
I think he's on to something. Very interesting dr.! I'm Actuallly doing a research study (correlational) regarding diet pop! Its a class assignment, but I'm excited. I might quote this in my intro.
I don't drink sodas, cut them out several years ago, and I am still fat, have been for a long time, and I have systemic lupus and hep C. Fortunately no signs of diabetes have shown up. I can't cut out sugar entirely, but am looking for info on how much is safe.
I have several ??, but mainly i would like to know how much fructose is too much? Fructose amounts to about half the sugar that gets added to food right? It always comes in combination with sucrose or some other sugar like high fructose corn syrup, not likely that it would be consumed by itself, right? So how much is OK? How much is toxic? 50g? How many tablespoons is that? Do you divide your sugar intake in half to figure out the amount of fructose consumed? After cutting out sodas, then what?
@zdeaf It's individual: If you're not all that fat, & you've been drinking a lot of soda, then just cutting that out might solve all your problems. Every little move in the right direction will have a good effect. Since fructose doesn't satisfy the appetite, & the calories from other sources do satisfy the appetite, you'll eat less without even thinking about it.
@spellititti I don't recall Lustig ever claiming to live in accordance with his knowledge. Really, don't most of us know more about nutrition, exercise, personal relationships, & money management than we we actually use practically in our lives? / Lustig has no problems with true Fruitarians, who eat only whole fruit, not juice. He refers to the fiber in fruit as the "antidote" to fructose.
@lazur1 Fiber is an antidote? For what? For the healthy sugar? Lustig made the wrong conclusion. Yes, fructose raises uric acid and lowers leptin, but this is actually a good thing.
@spellititti If you -like- those effects of fructose, -then- fructose -is- a good thing. If you -don't-, it -isn't-. I suppose a hyper-active,(in the positive sense, if there is such a thing), person who's prone to be underweight might get a benefit from eating what'd be too much sugar for most of us.
@s:1/ Aside from the "ShangriLa Diet", which claims that drinking a high-cal sugar-water solution before eating can re-set your appetite, it's apparent that sugar's not had the effects you mention on the great majority of fat Americans. The "SJD" claims that repeatedly eating same-tasting foods turns off the the appetite's natural limit. If so, sugar's role in obesity may be nothing more than it's omni-presence in packaged foods making them all taste the same. A very real role nonetheless.
@s2/Whatever benefit there may be to metabolism is in the glucose portion of sucrose. At best this is a "a wash", cancelled out by the fructose having no such effect.
@lazur1 The benefits are definitely not in the glucose part. It´s the combination of glucose and fructose which is beneficial. You should also note that HCFS (the real evil) has nothing to do with sucrose.
@s:HFCS's the real evil, but for many reasons in addition to its toxicity: 1/ With animal feed & fuel, it's why the US grows virtually nothing but uniform, genetically-modified, inedible corn. 2/ It's overused, & in products that dont need sweetening, because subsidies make it cheaper than fillers! /// "Nothing to do w/sucrose"? Macro content of both HFCS & cane sugar /table sugar/sucrose: Glucose & Fructose, & not in widely dissimilar proportions. It obviously has -something- do do w/sucrose!
@spellititti How is it that we see -no- posted agreements with your claims, from either side of this issue, yet you consistently get the -most- "thumbs up"? I've heard of the "silent majority" but this is a good case for dropping the voting feature on youtube forms. It's obviously totally meaningless.
supose we had to replace the 135 pounds of sugar (75 dollars) in the diet with calories of fresh fruit or vegetables or meat(799 dollars). could we still pay our taxes? supose it was 1975 and we needed to balace the buget with taxes could we introduce sugar to free up money from the lunch budget?
datzfast 9 hours ago
you were highly sucessful in debunking modern dietary advice
datzfast 11 hours ago
teen boys must eat more, teen boys are taller than 20 years ago, was your chart tallness adjusted instead of age adjusted.
datzfast 11 hours ago
Comment removed
datzfast 21 hours ago
Thank You So Much for your enlightening me and my family. Thank You for you honesty and integrity!
overtcovert 1 day ago
I'm glad I watched this video. Thanks to Prof. Lustig.
mohsen03 1 day ago
This is theory and conjecture. His science is very flimsy? Making fructose the villain? I think not. What fructose is a six month old getting?
cellphonesaredeadly 1 day ago
@cell phones are deadly baby milkshakes shone in the video. i guess because you dont understand biochemistry you fell asleep
datzfast 10 hours ago
I'm watching this in school and we have a quiz on it Monday.
sixstrings209 2 days ago
I've been putting off watching this for weeks due to the length, but I'm so glad I did. I was already a natural foods kind of person, but the truth here is really astounding, and it's hard to refute something explained in such detail. Thank you for providing the video, and thank you to the speaker for his/your efforts towards public health.
It's disgraceful that this kind of practice continues unchecked.
reinkaos82 2 days ago
That was very informative... k?
AllanSanches 3 days ago
The Robert H. Lustig drinking game: take a swig ever time he ends a sentence with... k?
ch72105 4 days ago 4
Ok, so Lustig says that fruit is perfectly designed by Mother Nature and that separating the juice from the fibre is a bad idea- I agree. But then he is also an advocate of low fat milk. Does he not think that milk was perfectly designed by Mother Nature and that removing the fat might be a terrible idea? Does he not see that half the reason people crave sugar all the time is because they are so deficient in proper high quality fats?
MatthewGreenUK 4 days ago
@MatthewGreenUK his point was that its better than chocolate milk. Think harder.
1ts0v3r9000 3 days ago
@1ts0v3r9000 He still recommends low fat milk over full fat milk and there is literally no need. I would tell you to 'think harder' but I was brought up with manners.
MatthewGreenUK 3 days ago
wow this is a brilliant lecture.
The1800cpap 4 days ago
Hmm... there are always naysayers. Anyone care to venture a guess as to what these cynical folks have in common? Guilt and denial, perhaps?
omnipotent11 5 days ago
Fantastic stuff Dr a real gem God bless you.
davidanvarifitness 6 days ago
Anyone uncertain about fruits and honey need to learn more about nutrition and your body's responses to these things. Don't make assumptions, and rather than relying on internet strangers, do some research and learn about your own body.
ThatsNotPoetry 1 week ago 3
What about honey? cause that is also glucose and fructose... good/bad?
vaness1505 1 week ago
@vaness1505 As Lustig says, honey is one of the primary sources of naturally occurring fructose, but it's guarded by bees. So yeah, bad.
jergarmar 6 days ago
@vaness1505 mostly fructose but also has lots of vitamins. Its quantity that matters. If we just replaced HFCS or Sugar with honey and continued consuming such a large amounts we'd quite probably have the same problems.
mightybaboonking 4 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@mightybaboonking Yea probably. I guess there's a reason angry bee's will attack you if you attempt to get some honey the "old fashioned way".
vaness1505 4 days ago
Comment removed
benasx98 1 week ago
There's a lot of people bashing the consumption of fruit based on the teachings in this video. But at 1:13:48 the lecturer himself says fruit is OK! It's the UNNATURAL intake of sugar in man made PROCESSED foods with ADDED sugar that is the issue at hand. Unnatural is unhealthy.
BOX5500 1 week ago 18
@BOX5500 But natural isn't healthy either...
sp1nm0nkey 6 days ago
@sp1nm0nkey The Dr. said otherwise. Where's your argument?
BOX5500 1 day ago
@BOX5500 Yes but I am a man and I can make things! including grape juice! So if buy loads of sweet grapes (high fructose) and juice them to remove the fibre and drink them as my primary source of calories I will likely still have similar fructose related problems if I were just drinking coke! All though the grapes at least have more vitamins.
mightybaboonking 4 days ago
@mightybaboonking You're talking about changing something from it's natural state. No one suggested you juice "loads of sweet grapes" and drink it as your "primary source of calories". Of course that is going to cause problems. Drinking too much pure water will also kill a person. You should eat grapes until you're comfortably full and then you will not eat excess sugar, but certainly not every day. Eat a variety of fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts and seeds.
BOX5500 1 day ago
Comment removed
datzfast 1 day ago
@BOX5500 SUGAR IS SUGAR ie. One fructose and one glucose molecule.
Fruits contain numerous sugars, but are not high in fiber. If your goal is to reduce sugar intake, then reduction of fruits, though it seems odd, is the way to go (especially for weight reduction, diabetes, etc.). Paleolithic diet is mostly fiber (ground crops, ie. vegetables) and protein (meat). If you are taking in sugar, its best with some fiber (which fruit gives), but processed sugar foods are generally free of fiber!
cwvanslyck 21 hours ago
Comment removed
datzfast 21 hours ago
Comment removed
datzfast 21 hours ago in playlist Favorite videos
39:30
lucidrealm1 1 week ago
Comment removed
lucidrealm1 1 week ago
Comment removed
lucidrealm1 1 week ago
Comment removed
lucidrealm1 1 week ago
Comment removed
lucidrealm1 1 week ago
Avoid sugar
hellomrjatt 1 week ago
haha i noticed he says mkay a lot!
MasterFreaks1 1 week ago
Dr. Lustig & Gary Taubes were going to write a book on sugar together, but they're "going it" separately. DEFINITELY a HUGE link between sugar/HFCS (same thing) consumption & cancer. Read about it in Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories" - I'm reading the book for the 2nd time now. It's the high insulin levels, over time, that does it. NO CANCER in societies prior to sugar & flour being traded to them by explorers & colonizers. NONE. No diabetes, cavities, hi blood pressure...
MattyOfTheVale 1 week ago
This was AMAZING. But it would be better if my family understood english. Oh well.
mcrfan1324 2 weeks ago
I have two questions. This lecture is an hour and half, so let me know if it's covered and I missed it. 1) Are sugar replacements OK? Like Splenda or Truvia or that sort of stuff? Is the composition and effect on the body different enough to not cause all these harmful effects? 2) Can I reverse the damage I've done to my body if I cut out all "extra" sugar? I ate a horrible diet for years, lots of fast food/processed food/candy and used to be obese.
msbunnypaws 2 weeks ago
@msbunnypaws Ultimately, you want to eat REAL FOOD. So, no sugar substitutes like splenda or truvia. These still contain man-made chemicals that you do not want in your body. You can use stevia. There are brands of stevia that do not contain additional chemicals. The first that comes to mind is Sweetleaf. It's only ingredients are stevia and a little fiber. You may not be able to erase the damage but you can prevent more damage by eating clean.
natawheee 2 weeks ago
@natawheee Great comment!!! Agree Completely!!! You want to eat REAL FOOD. Low carb, hi (good) fat, which amazingly EXCLUDES the "sainted" canola oil or ANY hydrogenized seed oil. Go coconut oil!!! No prob w saturated fat, that's all been a lie.
MattyOfTheVale 1 week ago
@msbunnypaws He doesn't mention sugar replacements, but I would guess as long as they aren't digested, they'll have little effect.
You can reverse damage if you cut out the sugars, and exercise to clear out the waste products within our bodies. Exercise he explains allows our body to more efficiently deal with the waste products of sugar metabolism and prevent insulin resistance.
anonymou5p0st3r 1 week ago
@anonymou5p0st3r he does mention artificial sweeteners and how they don't help curb the sugar addiction.
After watching this lecture I spent one month with no white refined sugar (I never drink soft drinks anyway) and the condition of my skin improved dramatically within 3 days and I lost my (albeit small) pot belly.
TheCompleteGuitarist 1 week ago
@TheCompleteGuitarist I lost 30 pounds in 3 months and havent gained it back in over a year. I eat under 10g of sugar a day and over 40g of fiber a day (wish I got more)!
onecrazyfrau 1 week ago
@anonymou5p0st3r In a radio interview he said sugar replacements haven't been studied enough for him to know if they are a good alternative, but in general they aren't regarded as being very good for you, so I'm just going to teach my palate that everything doesn't need to be so sweet. I got unsweetened almond milk and shredded wheat without any sugar. Not bad at all! He also said more studies are needed to see if the problems can be reversed, but he believes they can somewhat.
msbunnypaws 1 week ago
@msbunnypaws Blue Diamond almond milk? I love it!
onecrazyfrau 1 week ago
@onecrazyfrau Almond Breeze!
msbunnypaws 1 week ago
@msbunnypaws @msbunnypaws Hehe, same thing :) Its Blue Diamond Almond Breeze. I especially love the vanilla flavor, perfect for cereals! i'll have to check into shredded wheat cereals because its so hard to find a 0 sugar cereal that has fiber and doesnt have aspartame in it (like, the fiber one cereal one). Kashi makes a 0 sugar cereal as well that has 6g of fiber if youre looking for more choices. Good luck!
onecrazyfrau 1 week ago
@onecrazyfrau Post Shredded Wheat has no sugar or salt but like 6g of fiber. It doesn't taste as good as frosted shredded wheat, but what can ya do? When it soaks up the milk, it's pretty good. I've had it every morning for breakfast for almost two weeks now. I'll definitely look into what Kashi has for cereals! Kashi is a great brand!
msbunnypaws 1 week ago
@msbunnypaws do yourself a favor and pick up Thrive diet book, and learn how make your own cereal. Research shows the processed stuff is less nutritious than the boxes they ship in. And kashi is pretty filled with sugars.
1ts0v3r9000 3 days ago
@msbunnypaws yes you can repair the damage done to your body.
datzfast 10 hours ago
they bleeped out crap? might as well have said shit
xpanguinx 2 weeks ago
Mr. Lustig should give a lecture on TED.
1tutree4GO 2 weeks ago 35
I love listening to this guy talk. Finally, an MD who knows the truth, who doesn't minimize or laugh at peoples' health problems, and who is serious about making changes.
Saraswati0183 2 weeks ago
It's true. Try removing fructose from your diet as much as possible. Don't even eat fruit. Garuanteed weight loss. I have done it, and now whenever I eat fructose (even fruit, like 1 banana) I get sores all over my mouth. Didn't realize how damaging it was before.
raaaaaarr 3 weeks ago
@raaaaaarr bull shit man has always ate fruit, no sores. you have a problem that we dont.
datzfast 10 hours ago
Dr. Lustig's lecture is a very good one to listen to anyone who is interested in sugar metabolism in general and HFCS. I think the most dangerous and annoying thing about HFCS is that it has become a 'catch-all' ingredient used by just about every commercial food manufacturers. I think the beverages are the biggest offenders by far, since it is very easy to over-consume. Meanwhile, at least you can easily distinguish and control cigarettes and booze.
Waterflux 3 weeks ago
Crap is a bad word?
filthyassistant 3 weeks ago
@filthyassistant no. "shit" is a bad one.
MartinLoronzo 2 weeks ago in playlist Medicine
Comment removed
katmeredith 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
is maltodextrin a poison like fructose? my shake has 86g carbs (3g sugar!!)
thallious9876 3 weeks ago
@thallious9876 maltodextrin is safe. it will be process as dextrose=glucose
datzfast 10 hours ago
lol he looks and sounds pissed throughout the presentation
werewasyo 3 weeks ago
@werewasyo i love that
thallious9876 3 weeks ago
At 59 minutes blood pressure is mentioned. Great info, thanks for sharing. More info at whale dot to
jonnoshore 3 weeks ago
I dare somebody to count how many times he says 'okay' in this video.
holyfarkenshite 3 weeks ago 2
@holyfarkenshite I had to stop watching the 'okay's got too annoying
browndog1978 3 weeks ago
@browndog1978 okay you got annoyed, and okay you stopped watching. at least you agreed with him, okay.
datzfast 10 hours ago
Thank you.....thank you
Rydahshit 4 weeks ago
WOW. I have learned a lot of interesting things here, by watching this. Wish I had seen this in some ways before my oldest was born. (just from the juice point alone) Granted I think everything in moderation. Very infromative.
ababy2love 1 month ago
Yeah wonderful Western-styled diet.
The doctor is right.
SeventhSun 1 month ago
@40:00 - when u find a mistake what do you do...Spreading human feces affects everyone who eats.
This ship he talks about is only flirting with the iceburg. Go read up on what we are doing with human feces. We grow our food on it.That corn for corn syrup Probably grown on sludge. Plants uptake toxics as well.Ecoli in flour/cookies? Go look up land application of sewage sludge.EPA Title 40 Section 503. Its real. Its happening. MRSA in meat? Ecoli on lettuce? Both exist in sludge. Bon Appitet
daveemc2 1 month ago
having nuggets in mcdonalds is like going prostitute for a hug
niasiar 1 month ago
@sangfroidjen modern warfare :)
burtonchalmersnumb1 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
HYPERTENSION AND KETOSIS:
hey i gotta question. my mom is hypertensive and pre diabetic. ok i know low carb diet works on normal people, the question is, would my mom's body be able to keep working cz of the ketosis that occurs with low carb .... i'd highly appreciate your help
dildatota 1 month ago
PLZ HELP REGARDING THIS
dildatota 1 month ago
@dildatota I think it would help her to go on low carb. Make the transition slowly and up the intake of good fat like coconut oil while she cuts down the carbs. Remember I'm not a doctor though. Search for "Paleo Diet Helps Cure MS", if she eats like the woman in that video, she can't go wrong. All the best.
Zerafinel 1 week ago
WIC from Child Nutrition Act of 1966, formed under President Johnson
hunter04j 1 month ago
War on Poverty is an initiative of the Johnson Administration
hunter04j 1 month ago
I watched this video on a Friday night rather than consuming irresponsible amounts of ethanol, and now I've discovered another ubiquitous, potent toxin of the same nature? My mind has been blown.
wiscodp 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hopefully more people will become more self aware when it comes to taking action with their health. There is no right or wrong with health. There is what works for that individual.
naturalmeatswinnipeg 1 month ago
So the one in, one out theory for exercise is *also* false. Exercise fights obesity for reasons other than direct calorie burn.
somercet1 1 month ago
I didn't get past :36
ImDangerous 1 month ago
Kids drink sports drinks because its cool? Only fat kids drink it? I like how he pulls that out of his ass and promotes it as fact.
bucnomore11 1 month ago
Comment removed
furenaef 1 month ago
@bucnomore11 lol@ discrediting his whole research based on one 10second hyperbole example
furenaef 1 month ago
@furenaef I didnt say it discredited his whole research douche. It was just pathetic for that one part that he used his opinions as facts in order to come up with a bogus hypothesis. Discredit him no. Show that he's obviously bias, absolutely.
bucnomore11 1 month ago
@bucnomore11
You obviously have confirmation bias, just like an animal uses to make decisions does before their pre-frontal cortex evolves. What's your point?
textoastdog 1 month ago
@textoastdog pull more dumbshit out of your ass please.
bucnomore11 3 weeks ago
Comment removed
furenaef 1 month ago
@bucnomore11 I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.
furenaef 1 month ago
@furenaef What knowledge have you given me? You haven't said anything to me. and you say I AM the one who is lacking brain cells? Right..
bucnomore11 1 month ago
@bucnomore11 Oh I do offer my apologies as you lack a frontal lobe with the necessary neurons and synapses which are prerequisites for a sentient being. I myself, however, would be most happy to book you in for a three day cruise to travel to my location and visualize yourself making such taunts to a person of my acquaintance with the removal of an electronic discussion medium.
furenaef 1 month ago
@furenaef you havent told me shit or given me any advice. You are the one who is lacking any competence and try to cover it up by talking like some sophisticated douche. But in reality you just continually go on about God knows what .
bucnomore11 3 weeks ago
@bucnomore11 This has a low probability of coming to pass however as you are courageous only when your words first travel through an electronic medium to a public display forum. My belief is not strong that you would vocalize these insults when there is little spatial distance between yourself and that person. That is my thought process. I would like to know yours.
furenaef 1 month ago
@bucnomore11 I do not fall under this category as I am 6’5, 270lbs and every day I make an effort to stimulate myofibrillar hypertrophy by inducing skeletal muscle microtrauma. I would be most enthusiastic about you saying such a thing of unkind nature to my aunty in the vicinity of my physical presence.
furenaef 1 month ago
@bucnomore11 Have you acquired the knowledge thus far that there are people who suffer from conditions beyond their control, and are naturally in that state? My aunty, for instance, happens to be a person of that nature. She is a crane operator that has bad joints and a bad spine from operating the crane but you probably lack empathy for that case also.
furenaef 1 month ago
@furenaef What are you talking about? i never said anything like that. what the fuck is wrong with u
bucnomore11 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@bucnomore11 The problem is you're focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?".
furenaef 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Evil sugar
meatballeatter 1 month ago
i like his video. I think if you eat a lot and you just sit there, and you do it for a while you're going to get fat.
nicecream44 1 month ago
I eat unhealthy and will die unhealthy. I just don't want to change.
bowser5295 1 month ago
@bowser5295 As long as you know what you're doing, it's ok, but people shouldn't be tricked into thinking that unhealthy foods are healthy.
lazur1 1 month ago
@bowser5295
Be true to yourself. So proud of you.
SeventhSun 1 month ago
"u'mk?"
ejMongol 1 month ago
Comment removed
ejMongol 1 month ago
Very interesting - one small thing Marriage of Figaro was Mozart not Rossini...
52qb 1 month ago
@52qb Yeah, he says "Barber of Seville" in later versions of the lecture. The two operas were based on the same series and the same characters and were about 30 years apart. Close, but no cigar.
SimplyLewin 1 month ago
It's fascinating to see that there is research to back low carb diet up. If only I could make more ppl watch this.. and understand this too.
Puuliima 1 month ago
@Puuliima ... AMEN!!!
ababy2love 1 month ago
There is little left to eat that isn't toxic! Some things are better than others, but do any of us really eat well? As in good healthy foods? Even us raw food vegans are eating some major toxic food. Thanks Monsanto!
JBJund 1 month ago
@JBJund grow your own with rain water
N4trambl1k 1 month ago
"USDA doesn't want to know about this." Damn right. Trusting these government institutions with your health and life is a really, really bad idea.
Zerafinel 1 month ago 25
@Zerafinel which is why we should all vote for Ron Paul !
cskooger 1 week ago
@cskooger Can we keep politics out!!! Yesterday someone was blaming republicans for the packers losing the game, for crying out loud!
cd3dnw 1 week ago
We have joined you in the battle against HFCS and processed sugar and grains. The information available on this is vast and for those of us without PHDs it is difficult to wade through. The diseases that are precipitated by our modern diet are many. We look forward to learning more and helping as many people as we can with these facts.
Thank you
DSH
susan1948able 1 month ago 2
This is so true. Obscure studies in other countries are revealing the direct relationship between hyperglycemia and cancer. The elevated sugar levels are what are causing the perfect storm for cancer growth (think supply and demand here). He needs to speak about cancer too. Once people realize the truth, McDonald's will be worse off than Marlboro.
Instrumentalrocker 1 month ago 14
wow, mind blown.
tommyrock333 1 month ago
HFC is made from corn, and nearly 100% of factory farmed corn is GMO, yuck, it's a no brainer!!
life2essence 1 month ago
What he says is true. I started a modified "bulletproof" Paleo diet 4 mo. ago from being a vegan for many years. Increased my EFA consumption, went gluten free, all organic, sugar free, and reduced high carb veggies (potatoes, corn - which convert to sugar) forcing my energy to come from EFAs, MCT oil which eliminates need to count calories. Since then, NO MIGRAINE headaches, no weight issues, am nearly 60 y/o and weigh less than I did in high school! Look it up: bulletproofdiet (.) com.
life2essence 1 month ago 2
@xarumancer just so you know, Illuminati disbanded over 200 years ago. If you want to blame something, blame greed. It's greed that makes some companies create products that gives us sugar cravings and such, so that we will buy more
uhorne 1 month ago
Food has been used as a weapon by the Illuminati for decades. This is all part of the plan of increased sterilization and cancer rates. Learn more at: prisonplanet . com
Xarumancer 1 month ago
These lecture alienated me from Fast Food restaurants and sweets despite i love both . I think it will be helpful for me.
MrKamal233 1 month ago
Also see the book "Sweet Poison" by David Gillepspie. I gave up salt and sugar and my weight dropped and so did my bad cholesterol. Eat a wide variety of whole plants and you will be healthier.
lawmur 1 month ago 2
see sugar the bitter truth children's version
rmohyi 1 month ago
Interesting how he feels fiber so important
educationalnut 1 month ago
Wow!
DJLaszlo 1 month ago
Haha, "Download High Quality MP4"? I can already do that in 2 clicks in Safari for any video.
FaroZ06 2 months ago
Comment removed
FaroZ06 2 months ago
Thank you Dr. Lustig.
GuerillaReporter 2 months ago
Great talk, and I'm sure a valid theory. One question: is it true that there is so much salt in Coke? Like drinking a Pizza? Sodium only scores 33mg on the Coke label - one thirtieth of a gram per 100 grams?
judycorstjens 2 months ago
Wish I'd seen this before I went grocery shopping today...
redsyn 2 months ago
Okay, I'm recruited.
I usually have a hard time taking sensational titles like "The Coke Conspiracy" seriously, but watching the entire vid, there's a lot to take away from it.
SweetSodaChick 2 months ago
It concerns me that people are coming away with the message that glucose is harmless. I heard Lustig say in an interview that glucose is a significant problem. He only said this after he was asked two or three times by a radio interviewer. I would stick with Gary Taubes who admits that both are dangerous.
dialectical44 2 months ago
@dialectical44: Any macronutrient can be a problem if consumed in disproportionate &/or large quantities. People have died from eating protein without any fat or carbs.
lazur1 2 months ago
Comment removed
dialectical44 2 months ago
@lazur1 Correction
Lustig is saying that Glucose is hamless here. I agree about protein. But It needs to be consumed with fat (not carbs). Saturated animal fat and tropical oils can be eaten in large quantities without any deleterious effects but and vital to human health and the functioning of many bodily processes. Too much insulin causes weight gain. What causes a rise in insulin? The Carbohydrates glucose and fructose. Lustig is ignoring glucose.
dialectical44 2 months ago
@dialectical44 No, not harmless, just not toxic: A bloated, distended liver,(which Lustig describes as being caused by glucose), is certainly not a harmless situation, just because it's not toxic..
lazur1 2 months ago
Totally agree with the presentation, we have been eating and drinking the product of the evidence base medicine (stadistic numbers from the 7 country study) without a rasoning of a good doctor base in physiolopathology . This change the life of million of people, making them sick...how many life this crap (Fructose) has taken?! No more fructose in my home....
Hospitalistkh 2 months ago
me i get a large mc donalds coffee with 9 creams & 9 sugars
or at truck stops i get a 24oz coffee i pour of ton of cream & atleats 3 teaspoons of sugar, and i get 2 or 3 energy drinks for later and the next day....
mr500000000yearz 2 months ago
@mr500000000yearz enjoy type 2 diabetes friend
jplus1 2 months ago
@jplus1.....members on the message board that i post on ,, tell me that 2....i been doin it for years aint nuthin happen yet.....
mr500000000yearz 2 months ago
High fructose corn syrup is Japan's revenge for World War II? What a disgusting joke to make considering the horrific extent of the damage seen in Hiroshima. Also this guy doesn't look all that lean yet is telling eveyrone why they're fat and sick, pure sanctimony.
JBRENZful 2 months ago
very interesting
vegetablenut 2 months ago
Paleo. Diet. YEEEEE HAWWWW. turns out steaks n taters were good for you after all
danhantheman 2 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
240p - we meet again.
paddaw 2 months ago
This is why its so important to teach our children that eating excess amounts of sugar is not good for you. My mother had emergency open heart surgery only two months ago and then was immediately diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, she was not morbidly overweight. Luckily, her diabetes is so low (her a1c is only 5.5) its easier to manage but this has made me completely change the way I eat and live. Since removing sugar and eating 30-40g+ of fiber a day I've lost 30 pounds.
onecrazyfrau 2 months ago
@onecrazyfrau
Some of those old people I come across are quite good-for-nothing to my dismay. They don't really eat that much sugar, they aren't fat but they get diagnosed with diabetes anyway.
SeventhSun 1 month ago
Fruit makes you lean. High carb whole food vegan makes you lean. Look up durianriders or drmcdougall.
Rad1ka1 2 months ago
@R:Right, but most people'll misunderstand: Truly whole food is 1/Virtually untouched before eaten, not ground, mashed, chopped, juiced, etc, & 2/Is perishable, thus must be fresh when eaten. (For "durianrider", it'll also be raw.) If you tell most people "whole foods", they think whole -grain-, which has been stored for an undetermined amount of time, radiated, ground, stored again, cooked, & combined with other not-whole ingredients to make bread, etc: It won't make you lean.
lazur1 2 months ago
I've definitely noticed this in practice, the receptors that tell you you are full being turned off. Has happened at Thanksgiving dinner by way of orange juice (and probably many other HFCS laden items). Severe leptin shortage going on there.
Wendy's chili is pretty bad about killing the leptin response. It REALLY helps to know these things.
Awesome chemistry lesson, I love biochemistry. Thanks to cfk who turned me on to this video. I will be passing it on!!
havingfun911 2 months ago
We have health lessons at schools but we didnt get any information of this all ever, all we got were booklets from government which supposed to taught about dangerous food additives but all that was in those were claims that its impossible to make food without additives and not a single additive mentioned dangerous, i saw my classmates brainwashed right in front of me.
redzus 2 months ago
I think he's on to something. Very interesting dr.! I'm Actuallly doing a research study (correlational) regarding diet pop! Its a class assignment, but I'm excited. I might quote this in my intro.
kht124 2 months ago
1:00
nonamechannel 2 months ago
I'm glad more MD"s are proactive when it comes to health.
healthconcious 2 months ago
Somebody provide a nice summary to this and we'll all thumb it up :)
timrtz20 2 months ago
If you live in Philly, Amoroso bread (the bread on every good hoagie and cheesesteak) does not contain high-fructose corn syrup!
Utikazoo 2 months ago 2
Fat or fart!
optomekris 2 months ago 2
Mmkay?
Quarter2FourFilms 2 months ago
I don't drink sodas, cut them out several years ago, and I am still fat, have been for a long time, and I have systemic lupus and hep C. Fortunately no signs of diabetes have shown up. I can't cut out sugar entirely, but am looking for info on how much is safe.
zdeaf 2 months ago
I have several ??, but mainly i would like to know how much fructose is too much? Fructose amounts to about half the sugar that gets added to food right? It always comes in combination with sucrose or some other sugar like high fructose corn syrup, not likely that it would be consumed by itself, right? So how much is OK? How much is toxic? 50g? How many tablespoons is that? Do you divide your sugar intake in half to figure out the amount of fructose consumed? After cutting out sodas, then what?
zdeaf 2 months ago in playlist zdeaf's favorites
@zdeaf It's individual: If you're not all that fat, & you've been drinking a lot of soda, then just cutting that out might solve all your problems. Every little move in the right direction will have a good effect. Since fructose doesn't satisfy the appetite, & the calories from other sources do satisfy the appetite, you'll eat less without even thinking about it.
lazur1 2 months ago
Isn´t it just weird that Lustig is overweight and fruitarians are lean?
spellititti 2 months ago 25
@spellititti I don't recall Lustig ever claiming to live in accordance with his knowledge. Really, don't most of us know more about nutrition, exercise, personal relationships, & money management than we we actually use practically in our lives? / Lustig has no problems with true Fruitarians, who eat only whole fruit, not juice. He refers to the fiber in fruit as the "antidote" to fructose.
lazur1 2 months ago
@lazur1 Fiber is an antidote? For what? For the healthy sugar? Lustig made the wrong conclusion. Yes, fructose raises uric acid and lowers leptin, but this is actually a good thing.
spellititti 2 months ago 3
@spellititti If you -like- those effects of fructose, -then- fructose -is- a good thing. If you -don't-, it -isn't-. I suppose a hyper-active,(in the positive sense, if there is such a thing), person who's prone to be underweight might get a benefit from eating what'd be too much sugar for most of us.
lazur1 2 months ago
@lazur1 The benefits of sugar are more for overweight people since it increases the metabolism and the thyroid and supports the liver function.
spellititti 2 months ago 2
@s:1/ Aside from the "ShangriLa Diet", which claims that drinking a high-cal sugar-water solution before eating can re-set your appetite, it's apparent that sugar's not had the effects you mention on the great majority of fat Americans. The "SJD" claims that repeatedly eating same-tasting foods turns off the the appetite's natural limit. If so, sugar's role in obesity may be nothing more than it's omni-presence in packaged foods making them all taste the same. A very real role nonetheless.
lazur1 2 months ago
@s2/Whatever benefit there may be to metabolism is in the glucose portion of sucrose. At best this is a "a wash", cancelled out by the fructose having no such effect.
lazur1 2 months ago
@lazur1 The benefits are definitely not in the glucose part. It´s the combination of glucose and fructose which is beneficial. You should also note that HCFS (the real evil) has nothing to do with sucrose.
spellititti 2 months ago 2
@s:HFCS's the real evil, but for many reasons in addition to its toxicity: 1/ With animal feed & fuel, it's why the US grows virtually nothing but uniform, genetically-modified, inedible corn. 2/ It's overused, & in products that dont need sweetening, because subsidies make it cheaper than fillers! /// "Nothing to do w/sucrose"? Macro content of both HFCS & cane sugar /table sugar/sucrose: Glucose & Fructose, & not in widely dissimilar proportions. It obviously has -something- do do w/sucrose!
lazur1 2 months ago
@spellititti How is it that we see -no- posted agreements with your claims, from either side of this issue, yet you consistently get the -most- "thumbs up"? I've heard of the "silent majority" but this is a good case for dropping the voting feature on youtube forms. It's obviously totally meaningless.
lazur1 2 months ago