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  • Evidence for evolution. Science has the fossil record, comparative anatomy, embryology, genetics, comparative biochemistry, observe speciation, transitional fossils and on and on and on...

    It was proven 150 years ago !

  • @gregrutz Science has a fossil record but that record does not support evolution.

    There are no "Transitional Fossils" - that's a myth.

  • @tyeporter There are millions

  • @55metalmonkey you're right, there are millions of fossils, none of which are "transitional"

    There are "fossils" that evolutionary religionists claim are tens of millions of years old but still have flesh and marrow!

    Maybe they are still transforming from cows to whales - still in transition and that's what you are claiming?

  • @tyeporter cow to whale? you obviously got your understanding of evolution from IRC. evolution doesn't work that way and I'd encourage you to at least understand the process and theory before you outright deny it, bare minimum it might give you some understanding of what people are saying so you can dismiss their claims better.

  • @55metalmonkey Everybody knows & understands evolutionary religious beliefs.

    According to their faery tales, mysterious lightning [which to this day has yet to be reproduced] struck a pond of acids & proteins, producing life which evolved into man.

    Nothing yet supported by science - no fossils of one species becoming another - no links or proofs of any of the claims yet still clung to like their supposed simian ancestors to their family trees!

  • I have a question for you tyeporter. Since it's been roughly 4 years since you made this, have you learnt anything since uploading that refutes anything and would you change any of the statements you made in this video?

  • @55metalmonkey The supporters of this religion have made no discoveries that refutes science fact in support of their faery tale beliefs.

    There is nothing in fact, reality or science that supports this religious belief so there is no reason to change absolute statements.

  • @tyeporter let me start buy saying everyone is entitled to their opinion and no matter what I say can change yours. I'll try to be brief but at around 0:54 you state evolution is a religion, I would disagree. a religion requires many things (a deity, ritual ect) all of which are absent in evolution. Also a Scientific Theory means something very different than the context you used it in. You used it in terms of a collection of thoughts which is different than the scientific meaning.

  • @55metalmonkey nor do I expect to change your opinion about your religious beliefs.

    Evolution fits the exact definition of a religion as it has traditions (ritual acts) mantras, and deities.

    A theory is a collection of [thoughts] concepts and beliefs that have yet to be proven by science and in this case, science has since left this belief long behind.

  • @tyeporter Evolution fits the exact definition of a religion as it has traditions (ritual acts) mantras, and deities.

    How? what traditions (ritual acts) mantras, and deities does it have?

    A theory is a collection of [thoughts] concepts and beliefs that have yet to be proven by science and in this case, science has since left this belief long behind.

    Wrong!

    Definition for scientific theory: a theory that explains scientific observations; "scientific theories must be falsifiable".

  • @55metalmonkey So you're now claiming that evolution has been "scientifically observed?"

    This should be interesting...

    Let's see the link to the report of an observation of a species becoming another, such as a monkey into a human or a cow into a whale or any other of the evolutionary transitions claimed by evolutionary religionists...

  • @tyeporter Also the big bang, evolution, and origins of life are completely sepparate. Creationists (not Christians) see all these a a threat and group them together, a common mistake since it lessens the credibility of anything of interest thay might say. Also calling evolution Darwinism is a misnomer, you wouldn't call Gravitational Theory Newtonism or Atomic Theory Einstinism. Thoughts on evolution existed well before Darwin and was a well known concept to greek philosophers.

  • @55metalmonkey Evolution explains the evolutionist's origin of life and the big bang (disproven) is the story of their beginings - all part of the same belief.

    There is no threat from any of these as science clearly shows they did not happen - even religious (atheist/liberal/evolutionary/­etc) scientists are starting to admit the proof they are discovering.

    Gravity is a law not a theory as evolution - darwinism is evolution, nobody but his followers support this view in spite of science fact.

  • @tyeporter "There is no threat from any of these as science clearly shows they did not happen - even religious (atheist/liberal/evolutionary/­­etc) scientists are starting to admit the proof they are discovering."

    Any credible sourse to back this up? 

  • @55metalmonkey [ icr dot org /aaf ]

    Constant quotes and proof using evolutionary religionists own publications.

  • @tyeporter Darwins book was called "origin of species" and had not a single word about racism. Hitler didn't use "mein kampf" as text to support his actions, he wrote it. 2:06 I'm not even going to mention that world wide studies show that Atheists and agnostics commit less crime than any other groups. well I'm sure you are tired of me pointing this stuff out so I'll stop critiquing, besides you filter comments and none of this is likely to be approved..... peace

  • @55metalmonkey Darwin's book is called, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" & is extremely racist.

    It justifies his racist views that the black man is a subspecies & an ancestor to the white.

    I'm glad you don't mention these studies because you know as well as I do that they are biased & can be disproven by studies that show the exact opposite, having killed more humans throughout history.

  • @tyeporter Darwin was right,  black men were the ancestors of all humans. Scientists can trace our spread out of Africa.

    And you never answered the question....' what evidence would prove evolution to you''???

    Nothing?!?

    Then you have been brainwashed.

  • @gregrutz You know better, Darwin proposed and believed much more than that - racism/subspecies, not a co-habitant.

    "what evidence would prove evolution..."

    Any!

    As it stands, there is none.

    Other than that which evolutionary religionists purport but which has yet to survive full peer review.

  • @tyeporter No Evidence?!? Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) are lingering remnants of failed viral infection, which occurred in an ancestor's sex cell and got propagated in its offspring. The viral insertion site is completely random and finding one in the same location in two individuals indicates they each had that same ancestor. In humans, ERVs occupy about 1% of the genome. There are at least seven different known instances of common retrogene insertions between chimps and humans.

  • @gregrutz And yet we have more in common genetically with elephants than simians?

    ERVs, RNA nor Mitochondrial DNA are any sort of proof of evolution and billions or even millions of years.

    Only that we can and have adapted, as humans to our immediate environments.

  • @tyeporter Darwin's book is called, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" & is extremely racist..

    Yes thats the title and I only shortend it due to being limited to 500 words, it is racist if taken with modern ideals on the subject of races, at the time Darwin lived (150 yrs ago) it was the accepted hypothesis, regardless of any racism it does nothing to discredit his theory

  • @55metalmonkey nor does it do anything to promote or support the "theory."

    Isaac Asimov, L.Ron Hubbard, Ray Bradbury, Robert Heinlein and Arthur C. Clarke have patched together more believable stories, better sellers and more probable [supported by science and reality] explanations than Darwin.

    Although getting past the hate throghout the book, it really is a good and entertaining read!

  • @tyeporter "I'm glad you don't mention these studies because you know as well as I do that they are biased & can be disproven by studies that show the exact opposite, having killed more humans throughout history."

    I'd like to see one, credible sourse please?

  • @55metalmonkey you mean more credible than your vapid claim?

    History shows that both alone and together, atheist religionists: Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong - literally killed hundreds of millions between them.

  • I can understand why religious people do not understand how science works, they have never been exposed to it. But they should know what a religion is!

    Hint: If it has a God it is a religion.

    If it is based on faith in the supernatural it is a religion.

    Science does not use voodoo, magic or the supernatural. They change no experiment.

    Darwin knew evolution proves all men are equal, stop lying.

  • @gregrutz you're right, the religion of evolution fits all these and you're also correct that those who worship under this supernatural belief don't understand science - especially since there is no science to support the faery tale known as evolution.

    P.S.

    Darwin was a racist and his "Origins" book was a huge effort to support this hatred of black men.

    There is no science in his book, any more than there is science in the racist books of the mormon religion.

  • @tyeporter Religion is defined as a dogma and rituals that centers around the belief in the supernatural, a deity or both.

    Biology is a Science and does not use the supernatural or a deity.

    Therefore, logic follows> this might be new to you,

    Biology is not a Religion.

    And Geology proves the earth is millions of years old and there was not global flood, keep trying.

  • @gregrutz That's all fine and dandy but we're not talking about science and biology.

    We're talking about evolution, with which science and biology have nothing to do.

    And geology proves everything BUT millions of years.

    Geology supports a global flood and a young earth.

  • Maybe we should amke a video called "The damaging effects of religious bullshit"?

  • @Cainkane1 LOL - but that's exactly what I did here.

    We agree!

  • @tyeporter ee on nothing you religious ignoramus.

  • @Cainkane1 Sorry, I hate religion as God does.

    You're the religious one in our eyes.

    And that makes you the ignoramus!

  • @tyeporter Take another look. I'm a card carrying member of thr ffrf.

  • @Cainkane1 That must be some sort of spelling bee type religion?

  • @tyeporter Freedom From Religion Foundation. Nothing religious about that. I'll make a deal with you. I'll quit commenting on this video if you'll quit answering my post. Goodbye.

  • @Cainkane1 yeah, the liberals at their religious indoctrination camps (public schools) also cry "freedom from religion" yet they use our tax dollars to forward their religious agendas.

    The Const. doesn't provide for a freedom from religion, it's a freedom of religion.

    Which you seem to be expressing very flagrantly.

  • The bible falls apart like a line of dominoes starting with genesis. Most of it is crap. The morality is horrible and if this god of your exists he's one sorry scumbag.

  • I want to punch this guy

  • This is stupidity at a whole new level. 

  • Yes Creationism is a half baked pseudoscience and not even a good one at that.

  • @Cainkane1 I agree, your religion has no evidence, NONE! LOL, under a microscope we see micro evolution. Your "fossil records" don't prove macro evolution. You date fossils by the layer of dirt they are in then you date the dirt by the fossils you find in that layer - yeah, that's science.

    DNA? While I agree, DNA proves a common Creator, the DNA you're talking about - by your religous beliefs - shouldn't have been found,such as these soft tissue (more than 200) dinos being found.

  • @tyeporter What theistic drivel this creationist garbage of yours is. All scientific evidence points to the fact that Darwins theory is correct. Theres not a single science biologists that doesn't believe in evolution.

    Evolution is not a religion. Its a science. Something your creationi

  • @Cainkane1 - really, every single biologist believes in evolution?

    So all I need to do is provide the name of one who doesn't and all your tripe can be tossed out!

    Oddly, many biologists have commented that their work points to The Creator and reinforces their belief in Him, in His Creation.

    There is no science to support evolution, the only "peer review" y'all can pass is amoung those who "believe" the same. Shown to others and everybody laughs it off as religious tripe.

  • @tyeporter Well I guess I should said every biologist that knows what he's talking about believes in evolution.

    I should have said any biologist that knows what he's talking about. DNA proves evolution and it also proves that if we were created then the creator is a lousy creator. The design flaws in the bodies of animals which includes humans is very obvious. A squid has better designed eyes than we do as squids lack the blind spots humans have.

  • @Cainkane1 - ok, now I understand when you focused your point on biologists who agree with your position rather than biologists in general.

    So if I read your commently correctly, you're admitting that "evolution" is flawed in that if we've evolved, why didn't the best design thrive?

    I'm glad that you pointed out "the eye" because that's beautiful proof of a Creator since evolution obviously couldn't have come up with that design!

    tyeporter(dot)com/TheDesign.ht­ml

  • @tyeporter Why shouldn't soft tissue be found under certain circumstances? The fact that you find some fossils of some species in one layer of ground and not others is also proof of evolution. For instance you'll never find elephant remains in the same layer you find dinosaurs unless its faked. You creationists are good at that. The soft tissue that is sometimes found with dinosaur remains isn't soft anymore. Its petrified remains of what used to be soft tissue.

  • @Cainkane1 - you just contradicted yourself.

    The "Soft Tissue" found is actually soft tissue, not petrified remains of soft tissue.

    And there are plenty of remains found in wrong "layers" of sediments.

    Not just found by creationists but by evolutionists.

    Evolutionists simply aren't so eager to broadcast their finds which contradict their religious beliefs.

  • @Cainkane1 and speaking of faked finds - you claimed that creationists are "good at that" when it's not creationists who've faked find but evolutionists.

    Every fake in the history of the religion has been by followers of that religion from pig's teeth to ground monkey bones to redrawn photos of fetal developement in the womb.

    All by evolutionists.

  • @tyeporter What pathetic closed minded ignorance.

  • @Cainkane1 you're right, anybody who believes in the faery tales preached by the religion of evolution is typical of the closed minded ignorance that only blind religion can preach.

    In spite of all the science, evidence and proof - they still worship that belief!

  • Evolution is proven by the fossil record and by DNA comparisons which prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all living things are interrelated. Evolution can be observed under a microscope. The evidence for the truth that is evolution is too numerous to be detailed here.

    Religion on the other hand has no evidence. None.

  • Evolution is not a religion its a science. Evolution unlike religion has evidence to support it.  Your wrong on all levels. Incidentally what does The big bang have to do with evolution.

  • Cainkane1 LoL, evolution is about as scientific and proven as psychology!

    You have to toss science, fact, reality, reason and logic to worship at the alter of that religion.

    Those who preach the faery tale of evolution usually preach that it began with a god-like self creating universe through some sort of big bang.

  • This guy has to be a troll, no one is really this dumb :P. very funny video.

  • @hintofinsanity - I just assume they are all trolls - nobody would be dumb enough to actually support the religion of evolution .

  • come back with facts rather than unsupported assumptions wiht out looking at both sides of the debate because if you had you would know that evelution has much more than DNA and o ya ima athiest with lots of reasearch under my belt.not to the ideas of others but looking at raw data and facts and not just spouting crap. also the world is millions possibly even billions of years old. you clame the bible is the word of god and ste your source as the bible says so....well that is circular resoning.

  • LOL

    Unsupported assumptions?

    You just proved that my supported statements of fact were reality: you are a religionist (atheist) and you deny God.

    There may well be plenty of research but there still is no proof and none to be found that the earth is millions or billions of years old as your religion claims.

    And you can't point to any proof, not one thing that shows otherwise.

    Everything the evolutionist claims has been denied by reality/science.

    Sorry, Kiddo.

  • First of all you have no idea what my age is. second as i have stated OVER and OVER evelution is NOT a religion!!!!!!!!!!! and athiesm is not a religion it is a lack of one. that is a common misconception so i don't really care to much about that. I am under the impression that you think that if you keep hammering the word religion into things it will discredit them. yet by doing so you undermine your religion as well. I give up trying to correct your ignorance seeing as you will not listen to

  • You can state over and over again that reality isn't real but that won't change it reality!

    Reality is, atheism is a religion by all definitions as well as evolution.

    Both have traditions, mantras, practices and the belief in the supernatural.

    All are widely accepted and practiced.

    That's a religion.

    I have no religion, I've nothing to "discredit".

    It's not that I won't listen to you, Kiddo - it's that you're not saying anything new .

    Like every other religionist.

  • facts. so good luck with your life of lies and turning a blind eye to anything that might disprove your beliefs.

  • Thank you.

    If you have any facts that are based in reality and have proof, scientific proof - let me know.

    Nothing yet known to man has even come close to disproving God/reality/truth.

    But I aprpecitate your lack of trying!

    :P

  • there was a show on discovery that aired tonight i recomend watching it it is called "discovering ardi" then tell me that there is no proof of the earth being mllions of years old and that there is no supported data for evelution. BTW atheism is a lack of religon. but that is debateable and not the real point of this little comment debate we have been sharing.

  • The Disc. Channel has already said they fill in the blanks with artistic license to make a story/show more colourful.

    I don't need to see the show to know it's 2% science fact and 98% fiction.

    Atheists claim they have a lack of religion but nearly everything about them is religious. Atheism, like evolution is by definition a religion.

  • in this you prove your ignorance bye stating you don't need to watch it. if u had watched it you would under stand that it was a documentry about skeletel remains found in africa and the processes through which the remains were pieced togeather. you prove my point that you make unsupported claims prove that it is "2% science" seeing as it was not a show but a documentry go watch it then come back with an argument based on logic and facts.

  • We've been witness to a few too many claims of monkeys, pigs &random teeth being pieced together, shaved, filed & faked to be "human" remains & the missing links.

    Not even "Lucy" has lived up to the hype.

    These "scientists" can't even get the age of the earth & dinos right. Toss in a 20 y/o fossil & some soft tissue dino remains & you've turned the pseudo scientists on their teacups!

    If you had access to real science & not the Disc. channel or public school books, you'd know better!

    Shame...

  • @tyeporter yes yes, classic hoaxes, OK, so what? every theor ever has had hoaxes, scientists lie sometimes. yes, they call it a theory, because it has massive evidence that is put together into a model, aka:THEORY atoms, germs, cells are all theories and no, darwins book was not racist, you should read the book. hitler did NOT accept evolution and it doesn't teach that other races are lower. it doesn't teach we are animals, it is a FACT that we are animals, ask any scientist who is christian

  • @blazereef - thank you for illustrating to the rest of us, your hatred and racism.

    To degrade humans into animals, to accept racism and classism as normal and acceptable...

    I'd rather look at the facts, at reality and ask a Christian who is a scientist rather than a scientist who claims to also be a Christian.

    But as the rest of us already have and know that evolution is a religion, not based upon science fact but upon religious beliefs....

  • @tyeporter no, its not a religion by definition, evolution is a fact and theory just like cells are a fact and theory, you have to be one of the most ignorant creationists i have seen in a while, you should be really proud. your right, if you cant trust the creation story in the bible, why beleive the rest, the thing is, evolution has been proven, the earths age is older then 6000 years, there was no flood, adam and eve were not real, the bible is wrong, we ARE apes, get over it

  • @blazereef - so which do you believe evolution is, a fact or theory? You seem unable to make up your mind. Cells are not theories but facts, we find cells as evidence of reality all around.

    That you can still believe we're "apes" in spite of science fact....

    The only thing apes and humans have in common, that gives us the same design, composition and resemblance is The Creator.

    And that's what science proves, not evolution.

    Everything disproves that religious belief.

  • @tyeporter it is both in the same way gravity is both a law and a theory and cells are a fact and a theory, you really need an education. we ARE apes, evolution did not define us as apes but a christian creationist did. the only thing apes and humans have in common is a common designer? well, we ARE apes, thats like saying there is nothing in common between a pitbull and a dog, see what i mean? give me ONE peice of evidence against evolution, you cant do it because there is NONE AT ALL.

  • @blazereef - I was going to joke and say, "Don't be ignorant" but I'm sad to say, you've passed that point with pride!

    I'm not arguing your religious points with you, it's not even entertaining - I feel like a bully after reading your posts - like I'm kicking a quad.

    And were you to lucid up and start posting intelligibly, I don't want you using my videos as a platform to further indoctrinate folks into your religioun.

    So thank you for the comments and take care.

  • @tyeporter i have no religion, evolution is science. if you want to debate, PM me

  • @blazereef - science proves your religious beliefs to be just that, religious beliefs. Why would I want to debate a religionist?

  • a therory is a idea supported by science and facts but as we can not go back in time we can not prove it. also you BELIEVE in the bible there is no evidence for creation or the bible you state your views with out facts, examples, or siteing your sources if you can not support your ideas with LOGICAL thought process. a religion is a belief with no factual basis evelution is a scientificly supported theory not a religion. try again with facts and not misstated uneducated crap.

  • I'm guessing you're just a kiddo, MachineGunKitty. And you probably attend public schools which indoctrinate you in their religious beliefs - evolution, etc.

    Out in the real world, evolutions run against walls when they try to prove their religious theories/faery tales/beliefs.

    Junk DNA was the last great hope for evolutionsists but that rope slipped outta their fingers ten years ago.

    There is NOTHING to support their religion.

  • IT IS NOT A RELIGION AND I do my research from all sources. state your logic and sources. Human are animals it is a classification. evelotion is supported and creation is not. simple fact. you wanna talk about fairy tales when your believe what you do? some magical being created everything and everyone and i would like to point out"who created god? if you state that he has always been then it is also possible to state that the nessary particles to create the universe have always been as well.

  • Start over, Kiddo.

    You believe in a self creating universe, with no fact or proof of such.

    I believe in The Creator, of whom there are plenty of recorded witnesses.

    Proof you deny because it contradicts your religious beliefs.

    There is no science supporting your religious beliefs.

    And yet science supports reality, young Earth, etc.

  • I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe everything I read in a book.

  • That's good because most of what "public schools" add to their "science" books isn't really science.

  • *facepalm*

    Evolution is not a religion, you are just lying here.

    There is no micro or macro evolution, just evolution over time.

    There is no such thing as Darwinism, just like there is no such thing as Einsteinism or Pastuerism.

    Hilter was a christian and often spoke about his support of God and the creator. If you want quotes I will provide them. Not a good argument here. Also, Godwin's law.

    Lastly, the bible is a bunch of stories, there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

  • The religion of Evolution is a bunch of stories that have no supporting scientific evidence.

    Many people call themselves Christians yet have no idea the God of the Bible.

    Take the catholic and mormon religions for example.

    A religionist such as yourself may think these two religions are related to the Christian Faith but they are not.

    That religion blinds you to reality and truth.

    Your comment is a bright illustration of this fact.

  • Evolution is based on supporting facts. Otherwise how could it be useful and withstand peer review? Evolutionary theory is also backed by multiple scientific fields including chemistry, geology, cosmology and genetics.

    You may say evolution is a religion but that does not make it true, it's a deliberate lie and I'm not sure why you would do it. You would also have to consider the acceptance of gravity a religion, plate techonics, germ theory, etc.

    You seem to be deliberately dishonest.

  • Evolution may be able to stand up to peer review but it cannot stand up to emperical review.

    Reality, science and fact has continued to defy the religion of evolution.

    And you're correct, it is still a theory to those who support it, but the rest of the world has accepted the fact that it's a belief system.

    Gravity is a proven fact, a law.

    Plate techtonics is also proven although the time frames are greatly debated.

    Germ theories, vary widely.

  • the bible tells you to stone your children if they misbehave!!!! do you belive that?

  • The Bible doesn't tell me, a Christian to stone my child.

    Whether it instructed the Hebrews and still instructs the religious such as mormons and catholics is all together different.

    But no, the Bible does not instruct Christians to stone their children.

    Now consider that very carefully before you attempt to make the point that you are about to make.

  • oh come on there is proof!

  • You are absolutely right, there is proof of God.

    AMEN!

  • Actually, no Sir, there is none.

    Those who desire to deny God have fabricated that which supports their faery tales and religious beliefs but there are no proofs, no emperical evidences supporting the religion of evolution.

    That's like claiming that there are absolutely no absolutes in reality.

    You can't have scientific proof for that which does not exist in reality.

  • Religion IS man made - and evil.

    EVolution is also a religion, created by man.

    There is no science supporting it.

  • No sir. The cat is trying to tell you something about yourself. That is why the Egyptians worshiped them as Gods. Please place a shotgun in your throat. Also, your region is not fact. It is ALSO a theory, it contains nothing TANGIBLE. Please fail less sir. Darwin was right, ALL humans are a disease. A scar on this planet.

  • I appologize for pointing out the painfully obvious but you have serious issues.

  • Thanks captain obvious. I am a demon born into a family of people like you. :) A position which offers me great strength, for my master has seen what you cannot since before you existed. Smile, you are on candid camera, and your time is ending.

  • Everybody's time is ending.

    It's a known fact that 100% of people alive today wil die at some point in their lives.

    :)

    REJOICE in Jesus Christ, the One True Living God.

  • ok where to start? A theory is the highest a scienfic theory can reach other then a law. If you believe the word "theory" discredites it in ANY way then please look up the "theory" of gravity. Not going to throw out any insults. But if you are one of those that needs every word to be divine. Then please what ever you do, DO NOT LOOK UP THE COUNCILS OF TRENT AND NICEA. They would kill you faith.

  • My faith is fine, I don't concern myself with Nicea.

    As a Christian, my beliefs preceeded religions such as the catholic religion which brached off from Christianity. Nicea has nothing releveant to my Christian Faith.

    Gravity is a law; evolution is an unproved theory and a religion.

  • "The First Council of Nicea is believed to have been the first Ecumenical council of the Christian Church. Most significantly, it resulted in the first uniform Christian doctrine, called the Nicene Creed." It was convened in 325 ce. I was thinking of Einstiens theory of gravity. My bad on that.

    Religion is a uniformed approach to human spirituality. So by that definition evolution is not a religion. going to post a link to a video i did explaining evolution abiogenisis and the big bang.

  • Religion is that which binds one by law and tradition, that which is counter to God.

    You can have your Nicene, Niceno-Constantinopolitan, or any other religious mantras.

    That's all fine and dandy (no pun intended!) for you but as a Christian, my Faith is best and completely sumized by the Bible - sola scriptura.

    Evolution and every other belief which excludes and contradicts God is a religious faery tale.

  • it's just me pointing out something for you "namely that the bible has been changed. Should this ruin your faith or renew? I say renew. For we humans have screwed with it many times over the centuries and it still stands. Although i look at it differently then you do.

    I can not say this more clearly. EVOLUTION IS NOT A BELIEF SYSTEM! It is merely a word describing a natural process. Just as a waterfall is nothing more then a word describing a natural process or the electron shell 4 that matter

  • The Bible has been perverted by some, yes. Those who are trying to get God out of their belief system.

    And yes, micro evolution is a fact, but not millions and billions of years of macro evolution where species magically appear and change into new ones.

    That's a faery tale, a religion.

  • Nicea was the first gathering of Christian religious leaders to appease constinine. I was pointing out that although the bible has been changed many times people find purpose in it. Even if we humans keep screwing with it.

    I can not say this more clearly. EVOLUTION IS NOT A RELIGION! Evidence points to it. for it is nothing more then a name for a none sentient process in nature. While Christians like yourself describe it in a sentient way. Not doing your faith any good in the process.

  • The Word has not changed although the Bible some use has.

    Macro evolution or creation through evolution is a faery tale, a religious belief.

    No Christian believs it as it contradicts God and His Word.

    And it contradicts science and reality.

  • First off only meant one of those responses. Didn't seem to go threw the first time so i resent it.

    Let me ask you this then. It is a personal question. Do you see faith in a heavenly father as a relationship or as something that is dogmatic?

  • The Christian Faith is a relationship with The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

  • ok reason i asked the question was to get an idea of where you are coming from.

    Now do relationships stay stagnet? Of course not they advance. In the days of Newton and others the church ran the schools and sciences. You may or may not believe that was a good thing. Do you remember what happened to those that showed the religions sciences what happened to scientist that said their findings went against some obscure doctrine or other? They were killed or censored. But all those...

  • They are religious after all and false prophets and according to their own religion they are to be stoned to death, he who lives by the sword...

    Relationships grow stronger but they do not change.

    God is still God, His Word is still reality and absolute.

  • but these "false prophets" have been proven correct about their theories. Not all of them some were not correct. That is science for you.

  • Science has yet to support their religious beliefs.

    And cannot as their religious beliefs contradict reality and God.

  • forgot where the last paragraph left off. but the gist is that even these people of faith were looking for the ways god made the universe and how he made it work. The church lost it right to determine science when it took science as an attack to god! plus science advances in leaps and bounds and religion changes slowly.

    Did you Darwin attended seminary school to become a priest and that the person that came up with the big bang theory was an ordained priest? But people like you dismiss sad:(

  • I don't dismiss the fact that religious men contradicted God.

    That's a reality about religion.

    The Christian Faith and real science are not at war or contradict each other.

    Quite the opposite in fact, contrary to what the liberals, religious and others would have us believe - science supports reality and God is reality.

  • but big bang goes against genesis and evolution goes against genesis too. If you look at it from a narrow perspective. All science does is prove naturally occuring phenoninon. That is sciences "job" if you will. Religion should move the heart of the sciences but not cry if it disproves something that religion says. I see your faith is of pure heart but that pure heart does not disprove evolution. you should take a page of your own. Stop believing false people that say evolution is evil. LEARN

  • Maybe the wise decision would be to take your own advice and not cry that science disproves the religion of evolution/big bang.

    I trust science as it supports God and does not support religion.

  • Darwinism is just another stupid ISM - its racism , nazi-ism , and stupidism

  • AMEN~!

  • Darwinism really does exhibit a religious nature, I agree. Darwinists by their own behavior really demonstrate that their supposed science is a religious worldview.

  • So you really believe that the planet was made by this almighty being called God in six days..........wow ! If he did such a brilliant act then why did he not save those poor people at 9/11. I guess they were sinners and had to go to hell.

  • Way to swing waaaaaaaaaaay off topic and illustrate your perfect lack of understanding what in God's name you're talking about.

    Thumb's up, M8!

  • Get an education! Evolution is a fact !

  • Thank you but I've already a very well rounded education.

    If you believe in the religion of evolution as fact then perhaps you can benefit from your own suggestion!

  • are you really balming "natural selection" for abortions, and teen killings?

  • No, I'm blaming those who preach those beliefs as part of reason.

  • evolution isn't a religion. It is a proven scientific theory!

    There is no great evolution debate amongst those who are informed about it. there are more historians that believe the holocaust never happened than there are scientists who believe evolution never happened.

    the big bang theory is a different matter. unproven. There is a debate. Some people say that god created the universe and thats fine.

    evolution actually happened.

  • Ha ha ha ha

    Thank you, that brought a tear to my eye.

    LOL

    If the theory of evolution were a proven fact, it'd no longer be a theory!

    In the same post you said more folks deny the holocaust than those who deny evolution.

    That's an incredibly sad and entertaining world view considering we have every shred of proof for one and nothing whatsoever for the other.

    One is a religious belief and the other is because of religion.

  • in science, something is classed as a 'theory' if you could make a prediction that can be tested in an experiment.

    it doesn't mean its true or untrue.

    if enough experiments are done and no one can publish any criticisms of the findings of those experiments then it becomes a proven scientific theory.

    but if anyone finds a flaw in an experiment then the theory is regarded as untrue.

    any creationist who found any flaws in the proofs of evolution would be celebrated by scientists.

  • Many have and many celebrate.

    Many "evolutionists" have admitted this.

    I've heard the interviews on several radio shows over the years and read the same.

  • i've yet to find a creationist that understands evolution. too often the supposed flaws they find are simple misunderstandings or not even related to evolution I've heard that creationists think that evolution involves: random chance humans evolving from monkeys the origin of life the origin of the universe mass extinction unprovable science no morality! don't get me wrong, i wish evolution wasn't true too. I wish prayer had effect, i wish i could survive my death and live in heaven. peace
  • The only evolution that is true and which may be understood is micro evolution.

    That which can be shown, recorded and proven.

    "Macro" evolution which is said to span millions of years and in which species change from one to another and processes and parts are both spontaneously and simultaneously evolved: faery tales disproven by logic, reaason, reality and science.

  • The only difference between micro-evolution and micro-evolution is a factor of time. It's not a far-fetched concept, unless you believe, contrary to reality, that the earth only a few thousand years old. What you are saying is relatable to saying that it's possible for someone to walk 1 mile, but not 2 miles. You make the common misconception that just because evolution is a theory, it's discredited. Theories are used to explain and predict phenomenon. You do realize gravity is just a theory?

  • Thank you, Alan.

    I appreciate you taking the time to share your beliefs.

    Gravity is a law, an absolute.

    Macro (millions of years)evolution has been disproven by science fact.

    Science supports a young earth.

    But again, I appreciate your beliefs and your right to them.

    Blessings.

  • you believe in "micro-evolution". yet it would only have been roughly 4000 years since the flood and all current animal species would have to have developed from just 1 animal pair to form the entire spectrum of animal existence. micro evolution isnt quick enough to go from just 2 dogs to the range of canine species seen across the world on opposite sides of the globe and on different continents. if it was that quick we'd see it happening. you cant turn "dog" into wolves and chiwawas in 4000yrs

  • In 2005 Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland published a document explaining that parts of the bible aren't true. They warn people not to expect "total accuracy" from the bible. They condemn fundamentalism for its "intransigent intolerance" and warn of its "significant dangers".

    That "We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision." Of Genesis they say it cannot be "historical" because it has two conflicting creation stories.

  • Of course that religion would speak out against the Christian Faith and God's Word.

    Nowhere in the Word of God are we taught to tolerate the religions, the hatred of God and His Word.

    The catholic religion is contrary to the Christian Faith, contradicts God and His Word and I would expect no less that exactly what you stated from them.

    The Bible warns us of religons such as the catholic religion, so of course they are going to tell us not to believe everything we read within!

  • What wars have been fought in the name of evolution?

    None. Many bloddy battles however have been ought in the name of one god or the other.

  • Evolution is a religion and like all religions, people are killed because of the religion's false teachings.

    Take Columbine here in Colorado.

    These kids were taught that mankind is descended from animals, that we're no better than animals and that it's ok to murder babies.

    Survival of the fittest, that life is meaningless and worthless.

    They murdered at least one Christian in a show of support of the religion of evolution.

    Eric's shirt had the phrase "natural selection".

  • tyeporter, Obviously I don't know who or where you're getting your information from about evolution, but you should examine that claim, (it's false) and then start thinking for yourself.

  • I live here in Colorado.

    I was here during the shooting.

    Their motives, what they said to those they killed right before they killed them, etc.

    The "claims" as you call them are well known facts.

    I think plenty for myself.

    If I didn't, I'd believe in the faery tale of evolution!

  • If evolution is a religion (and it isn't) what god does it worship and what holy book do evolutionist use? The Columbine shooters killed 12 and wounded 22 others. According to you one of the victims was christian and was killed "in a show of support of the religion of evolution." That is a vile claim and you should be ashamed of yourself. It is a complete fabrication and you are an unethical liar for making it.

  • Evolutionists usually believe themselves to be gods: creators of themselves and their own. Their holy book? "The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection; The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" by their religion's racist founding Father, Charles Darwin. The facts of Columbine are public for you to read but you'll to deny I can guess. There was more than one believer killed/wounded.

    I'm not the one who should be ashamed as I believe in God & accept reality/truth.

  • Your claims are not supported. To claim that ""The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection"...is the evolutionst holy book is preposterous. I have read about the Columbine massacre and it has been dismissed as myth that the killers were out to get Christians. What was the faith of the 30 plus other students who were murdered or wounded? Out of 30 plus injured or killed students one was christian. That hardly makes the case they were out to get christians.

  • Of course that's what you believe.

    Take care, 10ago - may you find God/Christ/the Truth and may you learn to love yourself, mankind and God.

    May you find the Truth and allow It to set you free.

    Until then you and I are unable to communicate as you've no grasp on reality and we have no foundation on which to set an intelligent discussion.

  • The TRUTH?? I suppose you believe in every book as truth too!!! No wonder 90% leave ya'll truth behind! They know it is untruth!!!

  • I agree.

    90% leave this religion of evolution behind because we know it as untrue.

    And no, obviously I know a good faety tale when I read it so I don't believe that everybook is truth.

  • I thought you were open to debate, but that is okay. I hope you have a good night, and peace be with you.

    -chris

    PS.What about fossil plants and fossil footprints?

  • I'm always open to discussion.

    As for fossils - plants and footprints, etc.

    We have "fossil" footprints of both man and dino in the same fields - which doesn't support evolution.

    Science shows that fossils can be created within twenty years.

  • Thank you for bringing that up, I have found picturesof that in the past but can never emember where it is I think somewhere in Texas. That is something they don't teach you in school.

  • I tried posting several more comments, and it's been twenty minutes. I guess I'm done. I could have predicted where the conversation was headed, and it would have been cool. Oh, well.

    Peace and brotherly love,

    chris

  • YT is doing it's normal "screw the little guys" trick that it does after hours.

    I could have helped you to predict the outcome of our converstation:

    You believe in the religion of evolution, contrary to fact and reality.

    I believe in science and God.

  • Well, I can't leave that alone. I know YT is being weird, but you did not ever specify what "science" you "believe" in. Intelligent design? Creationism? Do you believe that Noah's flood is responsible for today's geology and that the Earth is only 10,000 years old? I have presented very few of the facts that I actually know on this subject, yet you have yet to respond with any. I am open-minded. Enlighten me.

  • I believe in science.

    It supports God, Creation, the flood and a young Earth.

  • I am not saying that science doesn't support God. However, you are fooling yourself if you believe the flood story. I have studied this "science", and common sense and simple logic skills are all that is needed to refute its claims. For instance, when asked why fossils are "laid" in their current order, a Creationist's BEST explanation is that "when trying to escape the flood, animals that couldn't run fast enough (simpler animals) were submerged first, ...

  • Folks may "debate" the Flood but mitochondrial DNA studies a few years back support it. The study (widely highlighted in the media) concluded that as much as ten thousand years ago the huamn population was reduced/narrowed and pointed to only four "Eves" as they called it.

  • ...that is...origin of species. In the past 150 years or so since its introduction, evolutionary THEORY has amounted strong evidence in many branches of science. To understand evolution today, you must understand the fields of geology, Chemistry, Biochemistry, Statistics, Genetics, Biology, and several others. All of these branches continue to find evidence that supports the theory.

  • Again - these sciences most absolutely have proven micro evolution.

    But they do not support the religion of evolution which states that species instantly change from one to the other, that God is a self aware/creating universe or monkey or single celled amoeba and that there are billions of years of history.

  • You are misguided. No where in evolutionary theory do scientists claim that "species instantly change from one to another."  Observe the fossil record coinciding with the geological record.

  • The fossil record does not support the "change" of one species into another.

    Worshippers of that religion simply connect the dots and create fancy animations and faery tales to disguise the fact that they are only guessing, wishing, making things up.

    No where does the fossil record prove cows into whales or dolphins (I can't off hand recall at the moment) yet that's what evolutionary religionists claims.

    It would have had to be instantaneous or they would have all died off in one generation.

  • Actually, the evoltion of whales is well documented.

    PS. The term "transitional fossil" is a somewhat misleading term, and YOU have been misled by it.

  • Oh yes, we know of the many branches that stem from the trunk but they did not evolve from another species.

  • You are not being very clear. Please cite examples of what you are talking about.

    Also, (addressing this statement: "they've created a mechanism but science (pick one!) proves their theories and mechanisms wrong")

    I still haven't received an answer as to what "science" you are referring to. Enlighten me, because as far as I know, all science pretty much supports evolutionary theory.

  • I've given you your answer.

    There is no science that supports the religion of evolution.

    If you believe otherwise, that's your right and your religion.

    I respect that right but fact and reality disagree.

  • Why do you say there is nothing "tangible" when referring to evolution?

  • Science absolutely support micro-evolution.

    There's plenty tangible.

  • What? Where did all of the comments go? I'm confused.