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I don't think I understand what you are trying to argue against from this particular clip. Or are you just stating that you don't believe Jesus was resurrected? That's fine if you are, but this clip just isn't dealing with that.
However, if you would take some time to do some research into, and thinking about, the resurrection of Jesus, I think you'll find that logically, given the immediate growth of the Church, that His resurrection is the best answer to the evidence.
Also, I'll send you some websites talking about the historical reliability for the resurrection of Jesus, for what they're worth. I know that you're very much against the Christian position, but forget about the "position" for now. Just focus on researching Jesus.
What I was saying was that, if Jesus had gone to heaven after dying, or even if he went to hell then heaven, it wasn't a resurrection. I was replying to what you said about the other gods not actually being resurrected, by explaining how Jesus did not resurrect either. A better example of resurrection in the bible would be that of Lazarus. The growth of the church had to do with kings (and a queen) that had control over what people believed if they wanted to stay alive.
Hey there. I know it's been like a year since we've posted here, but I came back to this vid and wanted to share some things. Mainly, that the growth of the Church happened exponentially, and BEFORE Christianity was ever a recognized religion. For the first 300 years or so of Christianity, Christians were utterly despised all over, persecuted, tortured and killed for their faith--which included belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. No Kings or Queens ever controlled an.....
...."official", legalized form of Christianity until after Constantine took over in the early-mid 4th century. The growth of the Church I'm referring to happens in the first 3 to 3 and a half centuries after Jesus lived, died, and was resurrected. The Church grew because the early Christians who were being slaughtered for their faith suffered so well and so willingly, and lived such lives of love and moral character, and DIED so well, that others paused to investigate the source of their faith..
...whereupon they themselves had an opportunity to experience the person of Jesus---post-resurrection. The New Testament is very clear in stating that Jesus lived and taught, then was crucified unto death, on a Roman cross, buried in a tomb, dead, and upon three days of being buried, was raised bodily for the grave, appearing to many of his disciples, eating with them (which requires a body), and letting them touch him (which requires him to have a body). I can't convince you that Jesus was....
...truly resurrected--you have to reach that for yourself. However, I can tell you that the earliest Christian documents, all dated as being written within the 1st century, make up the New Testament and attest to Jesus' bodily resurrection, and the fact that His followers saw Him resurrected, touched Him, and ate with Him. These Christian documents in the Ne Testament were written within decades of the events they describe, long before any King or Queen had any power over the Church, or what....
....it believed. That is the authentic Christianity which needs to be recognized. There is a firm and truthful foundation upon which the faith is built. You can research these things I have said for yourself. Don't just take my word for it. But please don't fall into that old, beaten horse, of a lie that says Christianity was controlled by politics from its beginnings--that is nonsense, and historically incorrect. The Church was first built by the blood of its martyrs, willing to die for Jesus.
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slowmopoke 1 year ago
Jesus didn't resurrect either, he died & went to heaven in the tale.
Boxcutter7 2 years ago
Hi Boxcutter,
I don't think I understand what you are trying to argue against from this particular clip. Or are you just stating that you don't believe Jesus was resurrected? That's fine if you are, but this clip just isn't dealing with that.
However, if you would take some time to do some research into, and thinking about, the resurrection of Jesus, I think you'll find that logically, given the immediate growth of the Church, that His resurrection is the best answer to the evidence.
Grambo4 2 years ago
Also, I'll send you some websites talking about the historical reliability for the resurrection of Jesus, for what they're worth. I know that you're very much against the Christian position, but forget about the "position" for now. Just focus on researching Jesus.
Grambo4 2 years ago
What I was saying was that, if Jesus had gone to heaven after dying, or even if he went to hell then heaven, it wasn't a resurrection. I was replying to what you said about the other gods not actually being resurrected, by explaining how Jesus did not resurrect either. A better example of resurrection in the bible would be that of Lazarus. The growth of the church had to do with kings (and a queen) that had control over what people believed if they wanted to stay alive.
Boxcutter7 2 years ago
@Boxcutter7
Hey there. I know it's been like a year since we've posted here, but I came back to this vid and wanted to share some things. Mainly, that the growth of the Church happened exponentially, and BEFORE Christianity was ever a recognized religion. For the first 300 years or so of Christianity, Christians were utterly despised all over, persecuted, tortured and killed for their faith--which included belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus. No Kings or Queens ever controlled an.....
Grambo4 1 year ago
...."official", legalized form of Christianity until after Constantine took over in the early-mid 4th century. The growth of the Church I'm referring to happens in the first 3 to 3 and a half centuries after Jesus lived, died, and was resurrected. The Church grew because the early Christians who were being slaughtered for their faith suffered so well and so willingly, and lived such lives of love and moral character, and DIED so well, that others paused to investigate the source of their faith..
Grambo4 1 year ago
...whereupon they themselves had an opportunity to experience the person of Jesus---post-resurrection. The New Testament is very clear in stating that Jesus lived and taught, then was crucified unto death, on a Roman cross, buried in a tomb, dead, and upon three days of being buried, was raised bodily for the grave, appearing to many of his disciples, eating with them (which requires a body), and letting them touch him (which requires him to have a body). I can't convince you that Jesus was....
Grambo4 1 year ago
...truly resurrected--you have to reach that for yourself. However, I can tell you that the earliest Christian documents, all dated as being written within the 1st century, make up the New Testament and attest to Jesus' bodily resurrection, and the fact that His followers saw Him resurrected, touched Him, and ate with Him. These Christian documents in the Ne Testament were written within decades of the events they describe, long before any King or Queen had any power over the Church, or what....
Grambo4 1 year ago
....it believed. That is the authentic Christianity which needs to be recognized. There is a firm and truthful foundation upon which the faith is built. You can research these things I have said for yourself. Don't just take my word for it. But please don't fall into that old, beaten horse, of a lie that says Christianity was controlled by politics from its beginnings--that is nonsense, and historically incorrect. The Church was first built by the blood of its martyrs, willing to die for Jesus.
Grambo4 1 year ago