47 seconds or around there he does this crazy hand slide thing ive seen it done before but wtf is it and how can i do it? is there a video link on the web some where ....
Kind of cool the way the light glistens off of the tuners. How long have you been playing at this point? 3 yrs? I'm guessing you started out on the piano or some other instrument to be that good after a few years.
oohhh! so thats how eruption is played! i was doin it wrong, i just learned it like an hour ago. it's not as hard as everyone says. but i bet if i recorded myself and listened, it wouldnt sound even half as good as u did. That was amazing! also, i think the reason why you didn't get 1st place is cuz that wasn't your original shreding. i bet you can do really well without using eddie's compositions. again, what an amazing video!
dude i watch your vids all the time, you are really awesome i have been playing way longer than you and you are 10 times better than me. how many hours a day you put in on guitar
you were the best but you got 15 because you used to much eddie it had to be conpleatly original or it wouldent ever be #1 next time do it on your own because you are amazing just make it up.
wow... i noticed that all of these kids that tryed the whole "shred the web" thing are all spoiled...this dude has a frankenstrat that kid has a 5000$ PRS... im not saying there bad at guitar all imsaying is that if i had that shit i would pklay like 20 times more...
Shit, I hope your not refering to me as one of the spoiled ones. I MADE this guitar with 300-350 bucks which is out of commission at the moment because I cant afford the parts to fix it. Im still playing on my first guitar which was around 100-150 bucks and hardly has any frets left on the fretboard. But I agree, I would play ALL DAY LONG if I had a good setup!
u say that 1 part was the best thing ever recorded? i say the entire thing was the best thing ever. if i could play guitar i would play it like this guy a good mixture of tapping shredding and cool noises.
dude you just shredded my balls of i know some professional guitarists couldnt shred that good all i have to say is AMAZING!! especially how you worked some of your own stuff into it
Use of a floyd rose properly should automatically put some of these web guys above the rest. I've been playing on a Floyd rose for 15 years and still can't ripp it like this guy.
Great stuff! This is an odd one but; What really strikes me is your good technique - I'm 41 and can still play fast while others had to give up, technique is the secret to a lifetime's problem free playing. Go for it!
You're absolutely f*cking ridiculous, man! Every time I watch this, I get chills! That guitar that you built is friggin sick, man! I can't believe you're the same age as me and you play this good! It's sick nasty!
You know what's funny, is that I actually see the guitar come to life in this video. All of a sudden I see you, Tyler, letting the music come out of your instrument. I think that's called transcending; taken to another level.
he's really fuckin' good..but I only hear snipets of tons of other stuff thrown around like eruption and other neoclassical tracks that i 've seen before. i can't any of him if I close my eyes i hear eddie van halen and steve vai....which isn't a bad thing but every guitarist needs to find there own voice
hey i was just on face book, and was checking out members in the eddie vanhalen fan club members and i saw some say click hear and that some one was you so i clicked and watched and you rocked it to the bone, smooth playing i liked it rock on dude
that was fuckin badass! i pray to God that you either put that shit in a lead someday, or you become a world renown soloist! that was fucking awsome man!
Wicked playing!! you're amazing and the fact you've only been playing for 3 years is fantastic..( you could blow many 10+years playing guitarists away).. i guess you've practiced very very hard. Keep on rockin !:)
man ... you should cover the LWAN solo ... you could easily pull it off ... I'm sure of that ... plus its Eddie's best solo ... just my opinion though :O)
BTW ... I've been playing for 17 years ... and you definitely surpass my EVH skills ... you definitely have a talent there.
You say you've been playing 4 yrs. Well, Eddie says he started playing the guitar around 12 and by his 21st, he was well on his way to being a millionaire. You've got 4 more years until 21, get with it bud. LOL. Daaaaaaaamn. That was Awsome.
Nobody really. I spent a lot of time researching before I started this one but I think you learn just as much from actually building it . I spent a lot of time tweaking it and improving it so now I know how to get it to play and sound ike I want it to. Ive got pics of the proccess.I might make a video sometime.
this is sex in guitar form. what did you use you learn? dvd's, books, private lessons? I've been playing for like 7 months now practicing for like 2 to 3 hours a day, i really hope i can be as good as you after 3 years!
Ha, I did get the Van Halen guitar method on dvd by curt mitchel. you can find about all of that here on youtube i think. Thats perfect. Consistency in your playing is better than practicing 10 hours just on saturday. Try to play at lest 10 minutes a day. and if you wanna clean up your playing, start practicing with the distortion cut low.
This is why I named my son Halen...he's 13 months old and I want him to sit on the edge of his bed someday and do this for me....Thanks bro you fucking kick ass!!! Thanks for representing the greatest band in the world
Man that is so cool! Thanks so much dude, means alot! Theres absolutely NO DOUBT Van Halen is the greatest band in the world!!! Thanks again for the comment!
dude i cant describe to you how much you sound like eddie like if i were to put you two in the same room and guitars in your hands i wouldnt know whos who..dude you have insane talent and i hope your in like a van halen cover band or something man
Dude that was pretty freakin sweet. the only reason you didnt come in first was because ur werent original. u have enough skill u just need a little more originality. over all just epic success
Very Very Good..you must have many of VH's early boots to get those pre-1980 shreds of Eddie down perfectly....What era Floyd is that on the replica ? Looks like a later version (non-Germany or possibly licensed)
Thanks man! Yea I use a lot of early vh solo material.Its a licensed version, mainly because that was the first guitar I made and couldnt spend too much money.
You owe eddie some money.
rybones1311 3 months ago
@rybones1311 You owe me some money.
lisannhodges67 3 months ago
Amazing!! whats this shred the web thing?? some kind of competition??
terrormonkey1 6 months ago
Damn dude, i love your van halen style!!!
MustHearMetallica 11 months ago
GOD
utopik02 1 year ago
Damn Good Job....
ROCKnROLL1406 1 year ago
Could you just follow me around all day a shred to my life?
jdubs95 1 year ago
damn you are good!!!
taylorscott1819 1 year ago
uber talented !!
JaguarStupid 1 year ago
can you make me a dean from hell paint job?
reallyguitarhero 1 year ago
47 seconds or around there he does this crazy hand slide thing ive seen it done before but wtf is it and how can i do it? is there a video link on the web some where ....
Dan2529 1 year ago
What frets do you slide to/on at 1:50?
AppleChef22 1 year ago
can u teach me how to play your awsom ness
360idol 1 year ago
@360idol im thinking about starting online lessons sometime!
lisannhodges67 1 year ago 2
im interested in buying a guitar like that, can you send me a pm?
thanks
you rock!
Connor6Sixx 1 year ago
@Connor6Sixx Thanks!!! Ill send you a pm right here in a sec.
lisannhodges67 1 year ago
i tried not to blink while watching you or i would miss the awsomniss
i blinked ;(
TheThomasKlein 1 year ago
how much would it cost me 4 u to make me 1 of these but with out the locking trem like the fender strat tem bridge?
holyass242 1 year ago
@holyass242 Sorry, I just now seen your comment. I can make you one with a standard fender trem bridge for $450 + shipping.
-Tyler
lisannhodges67 1 year ago
how much would it be to get a paint job?? your amazing btw
Aaron04051992 1 year ago
@Aaron04051992 Professional Gloss factory finish or "EVH" type finish ( same kind as the Fender replica )?
lisannhodges67 1 year ago
Kind of cool the way the light glistens off of the tuners. How long have you been playing at this point? 3 yrs? I'm guessing you started out on the piano or some other instrument to be that good after a few years.
Keep it up.
GrizAdams111 1 year ago
dude can you send me a pm with details too please? thanks much
AppleChef22 1 year ago
how are you getting the squeels from the tapping? I cant quite get them...
Bunters196 1 year ago
@Bunters196 Try tapping directly on top of the fret.
lisannhodges67 1 year ago
So are you still making guitars like this??? and how much?
evhfan1000 1 year ago
@evhfan1000 Yup, I sure am. Ill send you a pm with details.
lisannhodges67 1 year ago
I saw the Pick of Destiny!You have it now!
evhfrankie 1 year ago
HOLY FUCK YOU TREMOLO PICKED AT LIKE 1/32 OF A BEAT !
rokstar234 1 year ago
awesome, very nice playing man.
Naut 1 year ago
very van halen style. wow. lol. i cant tell the difference between u and eddie at this point xD
nejikid 1 year ago
wow. you really have some narly talent!!! keep it up, you could be up there with all those cutie girls who are all the sudden getting so good!!
jacobcallen423 1 year ago
Why Eruption? WHY????
10lipicht 1 year ago
you are a god teach me and eddy
jakethesnake437 1 year ago
Why is Eddie's Secret Son HERE?!?!?!!?
evhfrankie 1 year ago
the 2nd coming of Eddie!!!!
stormchaserr 1 year ago
Nice Van Halen style playing...and I saw where you stole bits from eruption :P.
friskyisfat 1 year ago
mannn...2 thumbs up.
malmsteenzz 1 year ago
oohhh! so thats how eruption is played! i was doin it wrong, i just learned it like an hour ago. it's not as hard as everyone says. but i bet if i recorded myself and listened, it wouldnt sound even half as good as u did. That was amazing! also, i think the reason why you didn't get 1st place is cuz that wasn't your original shreding. i bet you can do really well without using eddie's compositions. again, what an amazing video!
Twixgtx 1 year ago
14th or 15th
Christ whoever was 1st must have been god of rock if he beat u lol
SuperJaykay93 2 years ago
lol thanks! Everybody voted for themselves like 500 times in this competition, so I didnt have a chance.
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
Your good kid.
matrags 2 years ago
dude i watch your vids all the time, you are really awesome i have been playing way longer than you and you are 10 times better than me. how many hours a day you put in on guitar
jstringer50 2 years ago
@jstringer50 Thanks!!! :)
I can play anywhere from 1-5 hours a day.
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
Ha, E.V.H worship.
Surgicalshred 2 years ago
you were the best but you got 15 because you used to much eddie it had to be conpleatly original or it wouldent ever be #1 next time do it on your own because you are amazing just make it up.
rocker100991 2 years ago 3
that sounded pretty good for an mg you must have it set perfectly to get a half decent tone out of one of those
metal1324 2 years ago
wow... i noticed that all of these kids that tryed the whole "shred the web" thing are all spoiled...this dude has a frankenstrat that kid has a 5000$ PRS... im not saying there bad at guitar all imsaying is that if i had that shit i would pklay like 20 times more...
Canabolism 2 years ago
Shit, I hope your not refering to me as one of the spoiled ones. I MADE this guitar with 300-350 bucks which is out of commission at the moment because I cant afford the parts to fix it. Im still playing on my first guitar which was around 100-150 bucks and hardly has any frets left on the fretboard. But I agree, I would play ALL DAY LONG if I had a good setup!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
how did you finish 14th or 15th your the best i have ever seen are you in a band
socalmulishacapt 2 years ago
this guy does the best eddie covers on youtube that ive seen
ericvanhalen5150 2 years ago
nice playing man, ed would be proud
musicman3527 2 years ago
tapping part was spot on meng
4youk 2 years ago
Ed would be proud = ]
wacko937 2 years ago
hehe like Van Halen much? Great stuff man really amazing
guitarpick678 2 years ago 3
ha maybe a little! ;)
Thanks!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
dude you got some serious talent...keep it up man..you will shred your way to the top...and sum..
ItzRainingSkittles 2 years ago 9
u say that 1 part was the best thing ever recorded? i say the entire thing was the best thing ever. if i could play guitar i would play it like this guy a good mixture of tapping shredding and cool noises.
olywrestler140 2 years ago
Crap! At 1:12 my skull blew out of the back of my head!
That has got to be the best harmonic scream ever recorded!..
fretworx 2 years ago 4
hahaha thanks!!!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
dude you just shredded my balls of i know some professional guitarists couldnt shred that good all i have to say is AMAZING!! especially how you worked some of your own stuff into it
imaguitarlegend50 2 years ago
ok i saw this vid and my mind was blown away HOW DO U DO THOSE DIME SQUEALS AND AUTO FLANGING I NEEEED TO NO!!!! please message me back dude
RealRock993 2 years ago
GREAT JOG BRO
scittball 2 years ago
WOW You are good. Holy shit. Awesome video.
Kingsammich2 2 years ago
i think my face just melted!
notyourhomeboy 2 years ago
Use of a floyd rose properly should automatically put some of these web guys above the rest. I've been playing on a Floyd rose for 15 years and still can't ripp it like this guy.
Awesome man.
flatthump 2 years ago 2
THANKS!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
"And in lesson 2, I'll be showing you..."
Great stuff! This is an odd one but; What really strikes me is your good technique - I'm 41 and can still play fast while others had to give up, technique is the secret to a lifetime's problem free playing. Go for it!
3Deity 2 years ago
U should do a crazy train cover by Ozzy osbourne. 5* Rock on.
D3stroyer891 2 years ago
Fricken awesome dude!!!!!!!! what kind of pickup do you got in that thing!??
VanHalenRulze 2 years ago
dude you rock!
obliqueoasis 2 years ago
incredable !!
SPEEDFREAK200008 2 years ago
i thought the title says "SHRED THE WEB WINNER"
good job man!!
artartart 2 years ago
looks like someone knows a few licks ;) killer video man you wreck shop at guitar!!!!
EVHlivesforever 2 years ago
hooly fuck dude!!! your my new guitar icon!! seriously..wtf di you practice to become so amazing? i suck man xD help me XDDDD
and fucking badas guitar...goddamn i wish i knew how to build one xDD
CJ101nicKA 2 years ago
he practiced eruption by ediie van halen
EvHstyleTaPMaster 2 years ago
You're absolutely f*cking ridiculous, man! Every time I watch this, I get chills! That guitar that you built is friggin sick, man! I can't believe you're the same age as me and you play this good! It's sick nasty!
calahala 2 years ago
Thanks so much dude!
Ha let me kniw if you would be interesteed in a guitar.
Rock on dude!
-Tyler♠
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
You should have added some strobes lights and some smoke in your room haha. 5*
MetalShin0bi 2 years ago
LMAO sweet!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
man that is some clean playing!!! very precise. really liked it!
guitardomontebon 2 years ago
You know what's funny, is that I actually see the guitar come to life in this video. All of a sudden I see you, Tyler, letting the music come out of your instrument. I think that's called transcending; taken to another level.
VivaLePunk1307 2 years ago 2
he's really fuckin' good..but I only hear snipets of tons of other stuff thrown around like eruption and other neoclassical tracks that i 've seen before. i can't any of him if I close my eyes i hear eddie van halen and steve vai....which isn't a bad thing but every guitarist needs to find there own voice
ArchangelLexx999 2 years ago
Holy smoke!
talkabouteddie 2 years ago
i couldnt live without my neck pick up :P
sr1129 2 years ago
yeah definitely an eddie fan lol
Shelbones01 2 years ago
omg
Tidus2592 2 years ago
i was thinking about submitting a video not anymore
MASTEROFPUPPETS238 2 years ago
That's Amazing. But Btw I love your "Tricked" out EvH 5150:D
TheRiseofTaurine 2 years ago
Thanks man!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
No Problem. I Gave it a 5/5 Stars and a Subscription.
TheRiseofTaurine 2 years ago
dude that was definetly better than eVh
DisorderlyConductTV 2 years ago
u sure dont get enough recognition :)
goldfishgobbler 2 years ago 8
I'd say it sounds better than the eddie of today
kaboom6899 2 years ago
Jesus...That sounded too good to be an MG. It sounded like EVH's Plexi.
Theblackhell1 2 years ago
kicking ass. ;)
riffguy2 2 years ago
amazing talent bro...
jonnyboy513 2 years ago
Wow dude, your fucking amazing, seriously
crossblades400 2 years ago
You Should Have Won!!! Crazy playin dude how many hours do you practice a day i practice about 4 (no lie)
EJG5150 2 years ago
Thanks! Just however long I feel like playing. I play 4 hours sometimes.
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
dam thats nothin lol
IamTheRedneck 2 years ago
You have a bright future ahead of you. I've always loved Eddie's playing and dude, you got it nailed. Very nice!
brucewbowser 2 years ago 3
freakin' van halen the second
Amazing, dude. 5 star rating for sure.
Darkkill88 2 years ago
ha thanks bro!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
ImTheBestListen 2 years ago
???? how the fuck do you do that?
ood2112 2 years ago
ha idk I jus do it!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
hey i was just on face book, and was checking out members in the eddie vanhalen fan club members and i saw some say click hear and that some one was you so i clicked and watched and you rocked it to the bone, smooth playing i liked it rock on dude
eddieisgreat5150 2 years ago
Oh yea. I was trying to get some votes for a contest.Thanks man!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
Hey man, sounds great! What pickup is in that guitar?
REDSOXNYG 2 years ago
that was fuckin badass! i pray to God that you either put that shit in a lead someday, or you become a world renown soloist! that was fucking awsome man!
Twixgtx 2 years ago
Ha thanks man!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
Wicked playing!! you're amazing and the fact you've only been playing for 3 years is fantastic..( you could blow many 10+years playing guitarists away).. i guess you've practiced very very hard. Keep on rockin !:)
LEE211272 2 years ago
Thanks!
Rock on!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
man ... you should cover the LWAN solo ... you could easily pull it off ... I'm sure of that ... plus its Eddie's best solo ... just my opinion though :O)
BTW ... I've been playing for 17 years ... and you definitely surpass my EVH skills ... you definitely have a talent there.
EvilWeevilAnime 2 years ago
Thats without a doubt one of his best and his tone on LWAN is my favorite...just awesome! Thanks!
-Tyler
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
holy fuck man u r good!!!
ultimus123456 2 years ago
You say you've been playing 4 yrs. Well, Eddie says he started playing the guitar around 12 and by his 21st, he was well on his way to being a millionaire. You've got 4 more years until 21, get with it bud. LOL. Daaaaaaaamn. That was Awsome.
shellback963 2 years ago
do u only own black shirts and that one beany :P
xxthedunedainxx 2 years ago
Nope, I have a couple beanies lol XD
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
you have a phase on
robz95 2 years ago
No I dont
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
I cant belive you got this great in three years if I entered this contest i'd rather let you win cause youre sooo damn good
hch5150 2 years ago
yo i need advice!!! tell me what pedals to use 4 a van halen sound
sarg8 2 years ago
Also how much did it cost you to build that EVH replica?
clivebuckwheat 2 years ago
I think this one was around 450-500.
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
Hi Tyler,
Who taught you how to build guitars???, this is something I have always been fascinated with.
It would be also if you would post videos of the process!
clivebuckwheat 2 years ago
Nobody really. I spent a lot of time researching before I started this one but I think you learn just as much from actually building it . I spent a lot of time tweaking it and improving it so now I know how to get it to play and sound ike I want it to. Ive got pics of the proccess.I might make a video sometime.
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
dude, that was freaking insane. Out of all the Shred The Web conest entreys I've watched, this is by far the best.
guitarman1568 2 years ago
its like an orgasm for my ears. thank you
Jamgasm675 2 years ago
this is sex in guitar form. what did you use you learn? dvd's, books, private lessons? I've been playing for like 7 months now practicing for like 2 to 3 hours a day, i really hope i can be as good as you after 3 years!
tatersalad28 2 years ago
Ha, I did get the Van Halen guitar method on dvd by curt mitchel. you can find about all of that here on youtube i think. Thats perfect. Consistency in your playing is better than practicing 10 hours just on saturday. Try to play at lest 10 minutes a day. and if you wanna clean up your playing, start practicing with the distortion cut low.
oh and LEARN THE PENTATONIC SCALE...it awesome!
hope this helps
-Tyler
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
You melted my face 30 seconds in.
Umaiketsu 2 years ago
Man your the best. I can't wait for your next video. I am hook.
j5150h 2 years ago
.:ur awsome!
legithalo3 2 years ago
Thank you
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
you make me desprate
horvat666 2 years ago
those pentatonic scales kick ass, seriously.
RaabBlog 2 years ago
This is why I named my son Halen...he's 13 months old and I want him to sit on the edge of his bed someday and do this for me....Thanks bro you fucking kick ass!!! Thanks for representing the greatest band in the world
vanhlnfan4life 2 years ago
Man that is so cool! Thanks so much dude, means alot! Theres absolutely NO DOUBT Van Halen is the greatest band in the world!!! Thanks again for the comment!
\m/_(00)_\m/ VAN HALEN 4 LIFE
-Tyler
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
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metalhead3ecr 2 years ago
Thanks!!!
lisannhodges67 2 years ago
I couldn't listen to the whole thing, my ears started bleeding halfway through.
But what I heard was AMAZING.
rubberduck2897 2 years ago
Pardon my language, but dude, you are the fucking man.
PatVanHalen5150 3 years ago 3
Ha, Thanks!
\m/_(00)_\m/
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
u did a lot of eruption there. But is was very sweet!!!
kassar117 3 years ago
dude i cant describe to you how much you sound like eddie like if i were to put you two in the same room and guitars in your hands i wouldnt know whos who..dude you have insane talent and i hope your in like a van halen cover band or something man
ozzyman1108 3 years ago
wow...the best eddie covers ive seen on you tube...u 4 sure rock bro...thats no lie....
BOLTNOSE 3 years ago
great job of copying Eddies " LIVE " version of Eruption. Keep Rock'en !
colin1262 3 years ago
Eddie lives!!!!!!
j5150h 3 years ago
your a god. thats it.
NYGSD 3 years ago
damn, live version you are like the son eddie never had
thojyout23 3 years ago
LOL Eddie does have a son.
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
i think he means his son plays bass but eddie never had a son that followed his guitar steps
junkerde 3 years ago
Wolfgang does play guitar.Check out some 2004 tour clips of Eddie and Wolf playing 316.I wish he played some guitar on the 07-08 tour!
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
very nice job man , you sure can shred.
Got any tips for a noob like me, like good songs to start off? ive just started off and only got a cheap guitar & amp. Thanks man
cycoslayer69 3 years ago
Thanks man! Hmm start slow, play it right and worry about speed later.EVERYBODY LEARNS SMOKE ON THE WATER FIRST, its a good one to start!
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
wow. you rock man nothin else to even say. my mind is blown
CodyWalker5 3 years ago
Dude that was pretty freakin sweet. the only reason you didnt come in first was because ur werent original. u have enough skill u just need a little more originality. over all just epic success
jackman94 3 years ago
Very Very Good..you must have many of VH's early boots to get those pre-1980 shreds of Eddie down perfectly....What era Floyd is that on the replica ? Looks like a later version (non-Germany or possibly licensed)
jcm8002204 3 years ago
Thanks man! Yea I use a lot of early vh solo material.Its a licensed version, mainly because that was the first guitar I made and couldnt spend too much money.
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
a pich harmonic and a whammy, nice skills my friend, thats some dimebag shit
nathanomgnathan 3 years ago
sweeeeet
synesthesia67 3 years ago
fuckin nice-i also thought your version of panama was great
jstringer50 3 years ago
you've got it man!!!!!
wheeldeal 3 years ago
insane dude...... that was awesome.
gs81 3 years ago
holy shit man great job
ibanezplayer350 3 years ago
what type of humbucker do you have in that guitar?
pequahockey5 3 years ago
Great playing......
aneesharyan 3 years ago
Nice playing!!
wth522 3 years ago
My only goal on guitar is to be as good as you dude. Fucking insane
JManGuitar5150 3 years ago
did you win that contest??? if you didnt i might hav to fight the judges..your a beast on guitar dude
derrickm5150HT 3 years ago
Na i made 14th or 15th and to make semi finals i had to make it to 10th
lisannhodges67 3 years ago
truly. insane. FAVORITE ORIGINAL PIECE EVER.
Camsco1 3 years ago
do you write your own stuff besides doing covers?
RussianCivilian 3 years ago
good shit man
Ratchetftw 3 years ago