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  • To those who are saying that this weir is safe; you need to be more careful about what you post. A newbie could see your comment and decide that a local weir is 'safe' without weighing up the dangers. A weirs danger is relative to a persons individual skill and experiences. A playboater might feel at home sitting in a weir like this whereas a newbie in a displacement hull club boat would find this terrifying and will take a backward progression, not helping their comfort zone. See you out there.

  • very scary. seeing him in that for so long is terrifying.

  • It's a small weir with a stopper. He was fine and probably would have washed out if he swam.

  • It looks like a fun stopper to me, I think I would quite happily get stuck in it on purpose

  • It's not a dam it's just a wier and a pretty low one at that. The guy that was guiding him out looked competent enough to go in and get him if anything went to bad. The guys filming would no doubt have throw bags. Plus it was a local river so they would have known if the stopper was a fully retentive or a major risk.

  • dumb asses

  • Where is it? I think Monschau, Germany

  • @Kanukante2810 River Don, Sheffield, England - Doesn't look anything like that 99% of the time, only when it flooded majorly a couple of years back, this was a few days after the floods.

  • If you are going to run a dam, PADDLE , PADDLE, PADDLE,,FFS, DON'T STOP AS SOON AS YOU HIT THE FOAM.

    But these, as every one else has said, are dangerous, but hats off to the leader for keeping him calm and talking to him..

  • Ssssssooooo lucky! You had no rescue equipment (at least visibly accesable), no common sense, and NO business running this!I hate to RE-overstate the obvious, but running low head dams is ignorant. There was a safer line on river right, but still,a statistic waiting to happen.

  • My son was killed at one of these in VA - how incredibly stupid to do this on purpose - These dams must be removed from all rivers - thousands are killed each year!!

  • @scvolpejr weirs are fine as long as weirs like this one have a 'weak' spot in them to escape. Alot of weirs here in the UK have been given 'weak' spots either by angling them in a way that will let swimmers and boats out or have had sections blown out of them again to make sure that there is a spot in which someone could escape.

  • This is my local river, the water underneath isnt that deep, and all these are experiance paddlers. There wasnt a very high risk at all :)

  • fucking retards at play right there. who the fuck runs a low head dam? Darwin award.

  • im willing to assume that these guys knew the area pretty well and this level doesnt look nasty anyway, even if that could hold a boat im sure a swimmer would flush

  • Well about setting up safety, there was a guy with a videocamera on shore - he might also have had a throwbag (not seen and not needed, although the escape route for the trapped guy was kinda the other shore he started well withn throw range).

    About running lowhead dams - I mean, see for yourself, it worked for two of the guys, but you can really get worked quick by having to sidesurf this thing across its whole length.. so tedious and tiring if your lucky enough to get out at all..

  • retards

  • damn that damn dam

  • This should be called how to commit suicied in a river!!

  • Seriously? Running a low head dam is just plain stupid, you're lucky that one wasn't very strong.

  • really stupid. dont mess with dams

  • watching shit you should do on facebook,

    not in the kayak on the river,

    then you should act (or better set up safety first)

  • Look at the boil line. These guys give paddlers a bad name. Run something real.

  • There's an awful lot of unhelpful ranting against this clip.

    The guy goes too far left and doesn't pull himself through with a stroke upon impact.

    However once in the sh~t he stays composed and gradually works his way to the outflow. He maintains good edge and stays upright the whole time.

    Maybe there wasn't much to be gained from running the weir or taking the line they did but the clip shows what to do if you find youself in same situation. kudos for putting it up. Glad eveyone was ok.

  • hhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa owned he to weak

  • retards

  • looks like a party

  • Sorry Cncobsession, but running dumb shit is not "pushing the limits" especially when the line is clearly far right where the guy finally does exit the hole. The only reason he made it is because the weir was designed with an outflow on river right. otherwise he'd be another statistic and another jackass making boaters look bad out there.

  • You Should NEVER. Run a weir. Dunno what they call them in the states. A low head damn I am guessing.

    But it creates what is called a hydraulic jump.

  • this is not a safe thing to do 

  • Great moves to deal with a situation that will be experienced by any whitewater boater. Yes the dam is a dangerous place but not unrunnable as was shown. Actually quite mild if the problem is dealt with calmly, panic never helps. In 10 more years this will be a mere play hole. I remember when all boats were 13'1" and what people said were the limits. Thank god nobody listened then either. Proper technique was used in this video, learn from it. Kayaks beat open boats in big water, period!

  • If the yellow boater near the toe back had a short sling he could toss it to the victim and then drift ds pulling em out. Super useful whem swimming is not an option.

  • And that is an example of one reason why you shouldn't run low head dams.

  • Think he totally mastered the Situation. But very risky, no need to repeat.

  • 1. Running low-head dams like this is very dangerous. Canoe or kayak, doesn't make much difference. The flooded hydraulic jump creates a roller than pulls boats and people in and then pulls you down. A PFD won't really help you, the water is too powerful.

    2. Kayaks do FEEL less tippy because you are sitting lower. A properly loaded canoe, though, often will have a lot of secondary stability -- past the initial wobble, the canoe will stay upright, whereas the kayak will just roll.

  • evolution at work: dum people get killed so that they wont pollute the human gene

  • The third guy almost died. why would you try this? especially in such a small tip able boat?

  • @Ynehc no these boats arent "tip able" at all there kayaks btw canoes are the tip able ones. i kno i own a kayak :)

  • @MicroMouse007

    haha, so you know about canoes by owning a kayak. Better go get a single stick and learn to boat, especially in this situation open boats just go over the towback while kayaks get stuck.. I'd say open boats are better suited for whitewater but people avoid them because they afford technique to master. Actually, this third guy did quite well, too ;D

  • @mahyongg i have a canoe too im not a dumbass, and i hate canoes there so tpable and stuff

  • @Ynehc how did he almost die we do this on purpose in our kayak club

  • and if you are going to run it at least look for the outflow which is obviously river right... giving kayakers a bad name..

  • wow. dumb.

  • dumbass yelling paddle just bout got his buddy killed

  • dude your such a idiot a wier is like a liquid chopping block!

  • you are retarted

  • How f'ing stupid are you? You're going to kill yourself pulling this shit.

  • What a bunch of morons!

  • Does he approach too far river-left? It looks as though he hits an eddy that takes him into the towback zone. Notice the first two paddlers approach from nearer the middle of the river.

  • Don't mess with weirs, they are silent killers...

  • Bottom line here is, the drop itself isn't worth the risk involved. Kayakers who are familiar with low head dams know what I'm talking about.

  • i think that this is a very runnable peice of water for those who know what they are doing. people do die in weirs similar too this. the only thing i would like to ask is why no throwbags? on a weir such as this i would say they are mandatory.

  • Not very smart running that ! good way to get killed !

  • your stupid for running that. and its pretty obvious that no one there had the equipment to pull somone out of the weir- alive or dead.

  • Someone should teach him how to low-brace!

    It would've been a joyful ride

  • that should not be regarded as deadly or dangerous its just white water. If he had not paddled out he would have swam out easy, been there done that. You guys in the USA are doing much more hardcore stuff.

    Peace out and be safe.

  • True that.

    Enough hull speed, a brace, and a couple full draws and you'd be out of that np.

  • actually wrong. his hull speed made his bow dive deep to resurface right at the weir. the other high rode slow and high and over the foam pile.

  • pfff,

    build a ramp and jump it.

    hahahaha

  • doooooooouch bag.

  • What we fear as deadly in the U.S. the Brits enjoy and deal with - well done!

  • I hate to say it, but if you keep paddling stuff like this, you will regret it. I'm glad everything worked out ok, and that was a good surf. But he got SERIOUSLY lucky in getting out unharmed. Drops like that aren't worth the danger involved. End of story

  • Wiers can be dangerous!!! Think bout what your saying before you say it!!! Yes in this case its runable, but i have seen many Wiers that are not - e.g. Halton Wier in high water - i'd like to see ya paddle that 1!!! closed stopper with bout 2m tow back n a re-cirulating flow behind that!!! Do some reading up mate!

    Many wiers will also have metal spikes protruding and debris caught!!!

    We all like a gud paddle but SAFETY HAS TO COME FIRST!!!!

  • That's not true. You obviously aren't that experienced. A man made weir can have no week point and can hold a boat for as long it it pleases.

  • Your talking crap, end of story.

  • It's places like this that causes sad singing and slow walking.

    Glad to see that all is well.

  • lmao 10metre tow back hahaha... 3max! and if its so sticky why didnt you guys just run river right if theres a break out point oer there...?

  • thats at least a ten metre towback, the only reason the other two didn't get trapped is because they're in creekers, oh and to jeddy, no whitewater you say....... have you been to torver beck recently?

  • 10 metres lmao thats ridiculous. that maybe a weak 3ft towback. Get your fact right. If that was a 10 meter towback boats wouldent matter, your dead. End of.

  • good vid, i think every paddler knows that feeling, nearly out, nearly there, just ... one ...more ....stroke..... AH here we go again!!!

  • Good recovery, and fair play to his mate who stayed beside him and guided him out!

  • what gives you the right to say that?

    your just an arragent person who obviuosly doesnt get out paddling much.

    and if you are going to fight back, i paddle nearly every day on classic british white water

  • I agree with Charles, your arrogant and i'd like to see a vid of you paddling..

  • Dave florence?

  • i sware it's a weir not a dam

  • a weir is a type of dam

  • you are right, but a weir is something called a low head dam

  • Darwin's law, ottta the gene pool dumb ass..

  • fuckin dumbasses

  • hydrolics scare me in kayaking :(

  • stupid, stupid, stupid.. never paddle a dam..its just to dangerous...

  • pleeeaaassse!

  • not necessarily, we do it all the time

  • very good bracing would he have drowned if he had even got out of his boat but capsised?

  • no...but it wouldnt be plesant

  • Is this Bolham weir on the Exe?

  • That's good bracing strength but you shouldnt paddle lowhead damns

  • Damn lucky, could have ended badly...

  • people who died in Slovenia on river Sava this summer R.I.P

  • I got caught in a stopper recently, except it was in a racing boat that was completely unsuited to me and the stopper was much bigger. In a GP/playboat, the stopper in this video would have been piss easy to get out of.

  • THE DROWNING MACHINE!!!!!!!!! (better not fall out of your boat xp)

  • stupid to be running that.. but awesome surf!

  • WOW,lucky guy!

  • Been there and it is scary he was lucky

  • oooh should be pretty scary if your in it..... but pretty funny =P

  • not to smart that damn is a drowning machine

  • I have never seen such idiots in my hole life.. Im just glad he came out allright... dams like that makes me piss my pants.. I would never do that

  • not smart dudes

  • 14 people died a few days ago in Slovenia on a river Sava after getting caught in the current at a hydroelectric power plant in construction. This dams are killing machines, once they catch you the current will just keep you in circles...Don't play on them

  • I'll take a 30 foot waterfall over that idiot trap. I suggest you take a swiftwater rescue training class before hitting that again.

  • Fucking douchebags!!!! Zomggz0r

  • What the hells wrong with you? lowhead dams are not supposed to be run because they are deathtraps, dumbshit.

  • @keenanwaeschle white water kayakers are thrill seekers they try and find the hardest rivers to run thats why they ran the Don, i've done that dam myself and its not that bad, they all made it fine so not much of a deathtrap is it?

  • hey i recognize you guys you were in the crazy whitwater kayaker beatdown vid too weren't you;)

  • Why the hell are you going over a low head dam?

  • The paddler must have a strong shoulders since a High Brace is not the best stroke in this situation! Well shot, classic action, interesting narration. Glad I was there!

  • Uh, what would you do if you were dumb enough to run the low head dam and not paddle through the falls? A low brace isn't going to get you anywhere. A j-stroke would look about the same and accomplish essentially what the paddler did, ferry to one side to get out.

  • What happened dude....

    Good stamina

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