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  • simple questions my shia brethren. if i become shia, how long before i can do mutah. which one of you will be kind enough to give me your daughter, sister, cousins in mutah. come on, dont be greedy. well all need a bit of mutah. oh i shouldnt be talking about this publicly should i do. time to do taqqiyah. mutah is not part of shia islam, no its a lie made up by sunnis. shias are very clean and they do not commit shirk at all, wink wink

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  • @sufideceiver firstly may Allah forgive you for saying all of the things you have just mentioned about doing mutah with duaghters or sisters or w.e. I'm sure you don't even know what the word 'Shia' even means, let a lone the history of Islam or the Shia of ahl al bait.so before you start accusing anyone of anything, go do your research and look into the history of islam before you start speaking like a dog. In fact, even a dog has better manners and akhlaq than you.

  • @ZainW4, ahahaha, look at the shia get angry. you know mutah is part of your religion, dont try and do taqqiyah with me. you know deep down it makes you sick and you would never want your sister, daughter involved with mutah. leave your evil religion and come to true Islam, purity and light. what is mutah but prostitution. even a dog has more morality then to do mutah with another dog then run off and do mutah with another.

  • @sufideceiver 'look at the shia get angry' doesnt even make sense. Firstly you clearly don't even know the definitions of the words Shia and taqqiya. Secondly, you don't even understand the concept behind nikah al mutah. Please, go do your research before you start talking as if you know everything. Like I said before; you have manners that are worse than a dog. Is that what your 'school' of islam teach you to say and do?

  • @ZainW4, i know what shia means, and i know what taqqiyah is. your beliefs make you worse then a dog, as i said even a dog would not engage in mutah. in iran they have widespread prostitution in the name of "nikah" al mutah. go bash yourself on the head with a whip shia.

  • SHIA USING THERE TAQIYAH AGAIN WE DONT CURSE NO ONE NINE TENTHS OIF YOUR RELIGION IS LYING BUT ANY WAY THE HADITHS YOU GUYS USE IN SUNNI BOOKS SHIA MISINTERPERET THEM TO JUSTIFY THERE FASLE IDEOLOGY THEY SEE A HADITH AND SAY OH YOUR BOOKS SAY THIS NICE TRY IT NEVER WORKS

  • YOUR GUIDER KHUM STORY IS BASELESS MAWLA HAS 4 MEANINGS SHIA THE PROFET WAS SHOWING THE PEOPLEW THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT ALI WAS TO SHOW HIS LOVE FOR ALI WHY WOULD HE APPOINT HIM LEADER 250 MILES AWAY FROM MECCA AT A REST STOP USE YOUR SENSE RAFIDI

  • @12hamida Study the Arabic first. Then you will see why it's relevant. The Holy Prophet called those who lagged behind and those who were ahead for a reason. He waited till the proper time, because it was a command from Allah (swt). Understand the method of revelation and the Prophet's obedience, first. It was at an oasis in the desert and provided a proper place. Give more respect to the Prophet for knowing exactly what to do and when by permission of Allah (swt).

  • people tell me what happened when he came down?? WHAT WAS THE SITUATION??? TELL ME

  • I don't think you read the reference's I gave you, if you read them then you will understand the prophet's infalliblit'y and Imam's. 2. We can prove our belief from the main sunni book's.2. Shia's don't curse anyone all the main shia scholars say cursing is wrong and we don't do i, but nevertheless their may be some ignorant out their.3. Were not bias, we just present the truth and their's proof for everything that we present that can be proved from your Sunni book's by themselves!

  • shias are undoing the hard wok of the prophet with there unfounded years later false truths and statements,undermining the prophets judgements and the people most beloved to him...you guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

  • @yusufravat False truth's? Everything we say say prove! Why you go to any shia scholar, for their prove? We, undoing the hard work? Were protecting the true message of prophet Muhammad! We, underlining the prophet's judgement? Never, everything shia's say go hand in hand with the prophet believed in! Undermining the the people most beloved to him? His companion's went against his message after rasoolallah died! We have prove to prove that! And yet the sunni's response is " nobody's perfect"

  • @yusufravat Well the shia's believe that the successor of the prophet is appointed only by god and not by the people. And Imam Ali(AS) was appointed by god. If they take up a position of leadership after the prophet and are appointed by god then they must by infallible! Were not making up anything about the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) , were showing the true message of the prophet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    well this infallibility was never mentioned by the prophet, so bidah?

  • @marcelcol69 No, Their's no such thing as good or bad bidah. The prophet made it clear that Imam Ali (AS) was his successor, and so every successor or representative of allah on earth was ans is infallible!

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    all bidahs lead astray and into the fire, that exactly why almost all your doctrine is not found in the qur'an

    this is why we have sufis and ahmadiyyas. because of innovations, the muslims are divided.

    and thats exactly why all bidahs lead astray

    Not even the prophet (peace on him)was infallible, he openly said things that proved he was human still prone to error, like all other prophets.

  • @marcelcol69 No, we have proof for what you believe in, if you didn't we would be considered ignorant and following blindly! Istagfirallah of course prophet Muhammad was infallible and so were all prophet's, how are you a muslm if you don't believe in the prophet's message?

    Reference's:

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/2.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/3.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/4.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/5.html

  • @iSeekThe1Truth Countin.........al-islam.org/e­ncyclopedia/chapter1b/6.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/7.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/8.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/9.html

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter1b/10.html

    Proof you cannot denie!

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    Moses killed a person and said why did i listen to shaytaan. Moses also would ask Allah for the help of Aaron because Musa was afraid he couldnt talk as good as him and was nervous

    The prophet at the beginning didnt even know what was happening to him and looked for the help of khadija. He also forgot rakats in some salaah of the day.

    this is why we have the forgetful prayer!! he taught us this because he did it himself!! We also have Istikhara that he did himself

  • @marcelcol69

    by the way before you twist my words. The prophet didnt always forget rakats! It was mostly when he was sick later on in his life that he would forget. humans are prone to error if you like it or not

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    your wrong, infallibility means NO ERRORS AT ALL. and we all know that something like this is an attribute of Allah.

    The prophet spent all day seeking the forgiveness of God, more than any of us ever do!!

    Infalliblity is reserved for Allah alone!! Sometimes the Qur'an corrected the prophet like when it told him not to ask forgiveness for the kaffirs!! that was after he asked forgiveness for Abu Talib!!

    The prophet alayhi salaam learned along the way with jibreel and Allah!!

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    I know what proofs Shia live to offer. Especially when they use our own hadith to ridicule umar and abu bakr. Even though the Quran says not to ridicule or even curse any of his companions!

    Also, the fact that we have hadith that are favorable in the shi'a eyes, like ali being to muhammad like haroon was like to musa, shows clearly our hadith are not bias!

    Tell you the truth I would never trust the authenticy of any of your hadiths! plus theyre all bias!!

  • @marcelcol69 I don't think you read the reference's I gave you, if you read them then you will understand the prophet's infalliblit'y and Imam's. 2. We can prove our belief from the main sunni book's.2. Shia's don't curse anyone all the main shia scholars say cursing is wrong and we don't do i, but nevertheless their may be some ignorant out their.3. Were not bias, we just present the truth and their's proof for everything that we present that can be proved from your Sunni book's by themselves!

  • @marcelcol69

    4. However, it is important to realize that their knowledge is not absolute. Only the knowledge of Allah (s) is absolute. For example, one day P. Isa (a) was passing by a house where they were celebrating a wedding. He (s) said that when they would pass by that house again, they would be mourning the death of the bride. When he returned to the house after some time, they saw that the celebrations were still on going.

  • @marcelcol69 4.....When they went to inquire, they realized that the bride had given sadaqah (charity). Her death, it would seem, was conditional on not givign charity.

    Hence, P. Isa was not wrong in saying that she would pass away, for that was written in the book of God. the condition that was only known to God was that her passing away was contingent on not giving sadaqah.

    The same applies to other friends and proofs of Allah.

    About Ali ibn Talib(ra):

  • Respond to this video... 5. With common sense, why would Allah(SWT) place a representative on earth that we should and take as role model's if they commit error's? What if you follow their errors? Our goal is to reach perfection, but how can we if god gave us example's which are imperfect to some extent? It doesn't make sense, and god says religion is one with reasoning!

  • @iSeekThe1Truth

    I appreciate the balanced answers but about succession

    the things is even in history the only time Allah did that was with dawood to sulayman. The successor of Musa was not haroon, it was yushu'.

    even when Talut was a type of caliph his successor was Dawood alayhim salaam who was not related to him at all.

  • @marcelcol69 Yeah but the successor of the prophet was imam Ali, their's no doubt's their's proof to prove it!

    al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­ter3/6.html

  • Respond to this video... 6. Seeking forgiveness from god will make you hire in your goal for perfection, you don't need to sin to repent, even though you sin countlessly without you even knowing, Repentance take's you up a stage higher and so if you don't repent you won't go higher and so that's why all prophet's and Imam's used to repent countlessly and all the pious people!

  • @marcelcol69 Refer for infallibility: al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/2.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/3.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/4.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/5.html al-islam.org/e­ncyclopedia/cha­pter1b/6.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/7.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/8.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/9.html al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chap­­ter1b/10.html Proof you cannot denie!
  • @Notgoingnowhere Wrong, he does the opposite he speaks the truth and you just don't want to accept the truth, if you think he talks wrong than prove it with facts not with insults.

  • what a lier?

  • @pantherlake2002 Why're you saying that?

  • @iSeekThe1Truth bro I seen the lecture of this guy and he insults the sahabah and calls men like omar ibn khattab a coward.

  • @pantherlake2002 How do you know he wasn't?, you have to prove your thinking. Their's a hadith narrated that The prophet(pbuh) on the day of judgement will see his companions entering hell and the prophet will say but their my companions, my companions and god will answer you don't know what they did after you! It's true and its proven in history many of the prophets companions didn't follow what the prophet said and ordered. If Ali and Aisha were both companions than how come they were in war?

  • @iSeekThe1Truth bro. Are you saying prophet mohammad(peace be upon him) could not pick his friends correctly? Umar was not a coward. day of Judgement? he was one of the companions to be granted jannah on earth. And he was in battle of badr. You know the reward of battle of badr? right?. From your answer I can tell you are shia? I would be happy to discuss Islam with you but please bro do not insult me and I will not insult you.next time send me message please.

  • @pantherlake2002 I'm not saying that the prophet did'nt pick his friends correctly. I'm saying that after the prophet died Abu Bakir didn't follow the teachings of the prophet after his death. How was he one of the companions to be granted jannah on earth? Your negatives can out-shadow your positives. Sayed ammar is bringing facts from history, how could you dispute the facts?

  • @iSeekThe1Truth "From his perfect imams" right? I listen to him and he is the biggest lier on the planet. Would you believe omar ibn khattab or sayd ammar? your choice. listen to companion of the prophet or a person who curses the companions of the prophet? your choice. There is other questions I want to ask but it is okay if you do not want to discuss your beliefs.

  • @pantherlake2002 Yes from the infallible imam's which acted exactly according to the quran and the sunnah. I don't think he's th biggest liar on the planet or even a liar because their's no prove of it. I would for sure not blieve in Omar Ibn Khattab because he created sins, of course it's my choice I follow reason and will accept the truth which has prove. Sayed is just pointing out the truth, a indifference between the shias and the sunni's were that sunni's belive all the prophets companions

  • @iSeekThe1Truth Oh I forgot to mention yes I am a shia and this school teaches to listen to reason. And I do not want to insult anyone, for someone who insults another has already lost the debate.

  • @iSeekThe1Truth you believe that your imams are perfect? right? please define what you means by "perfect" or "infallible". thank you.

  • @pantherlake2002 I mean they did'nt create any mistakes and they followed the sunnah and quran exactly like how it was supposed to be followed. It's not that they could'nt make a mistake it's that they were knowledgeable enough to not make a mistake. We also believe that Imam Ali was appointed by god and first nominated by the prophet to safeguard and interpert both religion and law and to guide the community i it's concerns. and that they were the representation of god on earth.

  • @pantherlake2002 were going straight to heaven and followed the sunnah while the shia believe that all the prophets companions didn't go straight to heaven many of them deviated from the right path after the prophet(pbuh) while the ahlulbayt were the true successors and theirs countless evidence that proves this, you just have to look at simply how they interacted and their wisdom. Please feel free to ask, I want to hear what you have to say. The truth is the truth and the truth has prove.

  • @pantherlake2002 If all the the prophets companions are righteous and all go to heaven than why did Imam Ali(as) and Aiysha fight in the battle of Jammal? This shows that they thought differently of the sunnah of the prophet and one must be right while the other wrong? Are they both going to heaven even though they had fought a war?

  • Cameraman sucks, zooming in on people who aren't talking...

  • if you agreed to debate.. YOU HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO BRING IT ALL up. DIG IT ALL out.  Respect has nothing to do with it in this case.. its knowledge. u say what u know so the other side with respect and reference. period.

  • @SiDpassionKiss @SiDpassionKiss Wrong he was'nt agreeing to enter a debate on the pulpit theirs a right time to enter a debate and it's not when someone is giving a speech infront of a crowd that is just pure disrespectful and shows you don't have good morals if you have any.

  • yoooo Niggaz tell me what happend?? or at least the Gist of it

  • Yes he may have felt this necessary to leave the pulpit rather than continue to an audiance of illeterate and insolate.

    This reminds me a mushairah held in Lucknow decades back, A group of young students started hooting when the great Poet of Revolution Josh Malihabadi started reading his Verse. Irked with the foolish attitude of the youngsters not able to grasp his poetry He was prompt " Itre sukhan ko bharta hoon mayn shishe me qaroore ki " ( I am filling the essence in bottles of urine)

  • what happened on pupit????

    can someone care comin up with a link of that event plz.

    thanx

  • @Ali2m : Salam. The 'leaving the pulpit' is from a story that Ammar told at this debating event, the only details we know are what he shared here' his message was about avoiding confrontation and managing hecklers as a debator or public speaker.

  • @campusalam : Salam, thank you alot for responding to my question.

  • Nakshawani/Hyderi = forever

  • The Campusalam Rumble is a unique Debate training delivered in a Pop Idol format. The training is for Students on Campus. At this particular training, the students who atended the training picked an issues, they were assigned positions on that issue and then entered a debate with one another. Four established Muslim speakers/debators/ performers made up the judging panel, (Ammar Nakshwani, Adam Deed, Jeff Mirza, Tariq Ramadan). The students recieved exclusive feedback, a winner was chosen!

  • what actually happend here

  • There are 7 parts to the rumble in Westminster !

  • when and where did the heckling take place? is it online??

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