Bottom line gyrate, your claims at moral superiority are completely hollow.
You pay to have animals killed, and waste their carcasses by not eating them. I pay to buy land and set it aside so animals have a place to live in the wild, and kill them for food, not wasting them.
The farms that feed you were forest, destroyed to feed you, killing and displacing every animal that lived there. You can lie about it all you want, but the truth of that statement is self-evident and unassailable.
Lol! How did I know you were a vego-cultist. Let me help you:
"We thrive without meat." Thanks to modern technology (recombinant bacteria producing B-12 for supplementation, we can indeed thrive without meat.
It is, however, not the natural state for humans who are generalized feeders.
"world class athletes" Sure. Never have denied it. But while appealing to authority that way, be sure to mention that 99.9999999% of world class athletes are not vegan.
Whether you eat meat or not. You are responsible for animal deaths. You pay for them to be killed, and denying that stone-cold fact just reveals you as a fool.
If you want to be a good ambassador for veganism, then this isn't the way to do it. Instead, try to promote it on the basis of health, because your argument about "reducing cruelty" is just not accurate.
The farmers, the people who feed you, know better.
Son, it is called science. You might want to start with one of the simpler studies, since you obviously lack reading comprehension and critical thinking abilities.
"Geographical patterns of human diet derived from stable-isotope analysis of fingernails." Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006 Sep;131(1):137-46.
That is just one of hundreds studies. Found that traditional vegetarian societies, weren't.
AA's aren't the problem. B12 is. Educate yourself. You are just embarrassing yourself.
Ok. I am tired of trying to have an intelligent conversation with a mindless cultist.
Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan with your ignorance, lies, and stupidity.
And remember, every time you buy food, you are paying for animals to be killed, and wasting their carcasses. Hunters, on the other hand, eat what they kill, demonstrating a vastly greater respect for the animal and ecosystem.
Yep. The type that buys land, and sets it aside for wildlife, instead of living in a concrete jungle of destroyed forest, and buying more food from farms that destroy even more of our ecosystem.
The type that has a clue about nature, and actually spends time in it.
The type that takes the trouble to learn about the animals where they live, and care about the health of their populations.
gyrate you are a typical troll. you obviously didn't listen to a word of this video had you actually listened to my video you would have heard that I have no problem with the fact that you find hunting distasteful, and that as long as you present yourself in an educated, mature manner, you will be welcomed here by me. But, you resorted to name calling (as so many of your 'ilk' do) because of a lack of organized thought. you dont get the last word, you couldn't follow the rules...blocked
Ok. I am tired of trying to have an intelligent conversation with a mindless cultist.
Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan with your ignorance, lies, and stupidity.
And remember, every time you buy food, you are paying for animals to be killed, and wasting their carcasses. Hunters, on the other hand, eat what they kill, demonstrating a vastly greater respect for the animal and ecosystem.
@USSBN734 “Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan" ---USSBN734
I’m not trying to convert your lot to a plant-based diet. Anyone can see you’re a gloating, self-aggrandizing nutwanker. You give yourself congratulatory “pats on the back” for an argument where you have nothing to say. People can read--even some of the hunters.
@gyrate4 Son, it is called science. You might want to start with one of the simpler studies, since you obviously lack reading comprehension and critical thinking abilities.
"Geographical patterns of human diet derived from stable-isotope analysis of fingernails." Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006 Sep;131(1):137-46.
That is just one of hundreds studies. Found that traditional vegetarian societies, weren't.
AA's aren't the problem. B12 is. Educate yourself. You are just embarrassing yourself.
@USSBN734 Science is wonderful. Glad you brought it up. The UN is looking into promoting a plant-based diet, since farmers/harmers are causing so much environmental destruction.
You are the living embodiment of Foghorn Leghorn. “I told you so, I say, I put ya in ya place, I did. You built too low, son. I keep throwing the same useless pitch over ya head”
Yep. The type that buys land, and sets it aside for wildlife, instead of living in a concrete jungle of destroyed forest, and buying more food from farms that destroy even more of our ecosystem.
The type that has a clue about nature, and actually spends time in it.
The type that takes the trouble to learn about the animals where they live, and care about the health of their populations.
@gyrate4 And "Wasn’t it you that was glib regarding deer being “fast food.”"
LOL! Ok. So you are humorless in addition to being a liar. Very good. Keep em coming son!
Yes I take delight in killing the animals that destroy my garden. Because in one stroke I am feeding myself, and reducing my dependency on the farms that are so destructive to our ecosystem.
And son, every time you buy food, you pay for animals to be killed. You cause more damage to the ecosystem then any hunter
@gyrate4 "You take great delight in “hurting,” don’t you"
No son, I take great delight in taking a person like you, who is acting like a douchebag, and looking to pick a fight, and destroying your arguments and forcing you to face the truth.
All you can do is try to put words in our mouths, lie, and make ad-hominem attacks.
You cannot logically make your argument, or defend it.
And at the end of the day, you are still paying for animals to be killed.
Whether you eat meat or not. You are responsible for animal deaths. You pay for them to be killed, and denying that stone-cold fact just reveals you as a fool.
If you want to be a good ambassador for veganism, then this isn't the way to do it. Instead, try to promote it on the basis of health, because your argument about "reducing cruelty" is just not accurate.
The farmers, the people who feed you, know better.
"You know humans thrive" They can, thanks to modern supplementation. Not before. Might want to do some reading "Isotope analysis of traditional vegetarian societies." And "Biochemistry for dummies"
"so you’re killing them for very trivial reasons" Really? Eating is trivial?
And why are you paying for them to be killed, and how is that morally superior?
His land which is preserved as natural forest... and where do you live? In a city that was once forest that was destroyed...
@USSBN734 Now gyrate, you just stay here and spam all this off the page so you won't be embarrassed being caught in your lies and cult delusions.--USSBN734
You’ve recited the same misleading info repeatedly. Is that not spam? Perhaps not to you and your ilk.
Really? I am not the one who cannot face the fact that you pay for animals to be killed every time you buy food, and you allow their bodies to go to waste.
"It’s a lie that vegans don’t reduce suffering" So farms don't destroy habitat? And farmers don't kill billions of animals every year? And hunters don't buy land and set it aside & allow the forest to return & preserve forests?
You've been drinking too much koolaid. And you need to look up the meaning of delusion.
@USSBN734 You are a liar USSBN. Percentage of corn grown in the US eaten by people: 20
Percentage of corn grown in the US eaten by livestock: 80
So more incidential deaths from harvesting crops are caused by those eating meat. Therefore vegans reduce the numbers of animals killed. Vegans cause less suffering.
@gyrate4 You call him a liar when you post easily debunked bullshit? Funny. 58% feed and residual use. 28% ethanol. 5% high fructose corn syrup. 2% glucose and fructose. 2% starch. 2% cereal and other uses. 1% drinking alcohol.
And I grew up on a farm. His comments are accurate. Vegan diets are more destructive to the environment than are hunting based diets because of habitat destruction & killing thousands of animals per acre to protect crops. That is reality.
@tarbmuffinable And Tarb, that 58% feed aren't crops suitable for human use. Less than 10% of that meets standards. MOST of that feed are crops that don't meet food standards, or are remnants from other processed foods like tofu, which is made from soy. The soybeans are used to make the tofu, and the remnants are not suitable for human consumption. That is given to cattle. The cult-vegans don't acknowledge that and claim it is food lost to humans. It isn't.
@gyrate4 By my "ilk?" Lol. Prejudiced in addition to being willfully stupid aren't you?
"Sport" I have never considered it a sport. Growing up on farms, and growing up with hunting supplying a significant portion of our calories, particularly before the success of my Father's business, it was a part of our lifestyle and survival.
And part of yours too, since we were paid to help kill pests at farms. Which you paid for, in part when you bought the food, thank you very much.
@USSBN734 “Truth hurts.” You keep saying that. You take great delight in “hurting,” don’t you. Says a lot about you. Vegans do reduce suffering. Reapeating the lie doesn't "hurt" me.
Studies have repeatedly shown the destruction caused by producing meat. I’m sure you’ll say it’s “unrelated to hunting,” but it’s always the sociopathic hunters delighting once more in killing the true, natural predators for the expansion of grazing land.
@USSBN734 “Ilk” Yes. Did I imagine it, or did I see you taking great delight in a squirrel being shot and killed on another video? Wasn’t it you that was glib regarding deer being “fast food.” Hunting attracts a type.
You delight in your idea, and it’s just an idea mind you, that vegans cause as much harm as those willingly killing animals. You hate people with compassion and those aspiring to reduce suffering.
@gyrate4 "When animals are on the slaughterhouse assembly line" When did I talk about factory farms? Are you stupid? I mean if you are just an idiot, let me know and I will be more gentle with you. I suspect you aren't that stupid, you are just dishonest.
I have been talking about hunting, as you should know, if you have at least an average IQ. Or is this another case of you lying so you can argue with a point I didn't make?
And every time you buy food you pay for animals to be killed.
@USSBN734 You know humans thrive without eating meat, so you’re killing them for very trivial reasons. Either because you like the way they taste, or because you enjoy killing and dominating.
Seriously, look at this smug, fat wretch sauntering over his land playing the role of the big, fat guru know-it-all. I’d say killing and dominating is the reason.
@gyrate4 "You're saying vegans may contribute to some deaths" There you go lying about what I am saying again. Pathetic that you cannot be honest.
Nope. I said that vegans pay for farmers to kill animals for them. You are paying for animals to be killed. That is a fact.
"so we may as well "kill, kill, kill." I didn't say that either, liar. I am pointing out that you kill animals, directly and indirectly with your lifestyle more indiscriminately than do hunters. Also fact.
Bottom line gyrate, your claims at moral superiority are completely hollow.
You pay to have animals killed, and waste their carcasses by not eating them. I pay to buy land and set it aside so animals have a place to live in the wild, and kill them for food, not wasting them.
The farms that feed you were forest, destroyed to feed you, killing and displacing every animal that lived there. You can lie about it all you want, but the truth of that statement is self-evident and unassailable.
@gyrate4 "They claim to “love nature,” but they kill animals for fun."
It is funny how you cannot even try to argue honestly. I know why you don't. Because honesty would defeat your arguments.
I don't kill animals for fun. I kill them for food. And you pay to have animals killed for you (or are you still saying that farms don't kill the animals that eat their crops).
So try again, son. And try to have enough self-respect to be honest this time.
@gyrate4 "I’m as guilty as someone willingly eating meat?"
You feel guilty because you are. Because those animals were killed to feed you. You paid for them to be killed, and you waste their meat by not eating them. I am guilty of nothing, except slapping you in the face with the truth, which you cannot handle.
I love how much the truth hurts you. I love how much you gyrate to try to twist the facts to fit your agenda, and I love how miserably you fail.
@USSBN734 You’re the most deluded fellow on youtube. You keep repeating the same lie---a lie anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see through. It’s a lie that vegans don’t reduce suffering.
@gyrate4 "And by that logic, some women are raped, so we should go ahead and rape them all." Uh... you are going to have to explain your "logic" because that isn't remotely logical, but it tells us a lot about your thought processes...
"You’re spectacularly egotistical and ignorant." So you are saying that the farms that feed you do not kill the animals that eat their crops? If so you are incredibly ignorant.
"You’re saying" Nope. I said what I said, not what you are claiming I said.
@USSBN734 You're saying vegans may contribute to some deaths, so we may as well "kill, kill, kill." It's the same type of logic. When animals are on the slaughterhouse assembly line, it’s no longer hypothetical’s you’re dealing with.
@gyrate4 "dismissive" Not really. In fact by hunting for my meat, I am less dismissive of their lives than you are.
The ultimate in being dismissive, is your persistent lying about the animal deaths caused by you, the vegan. The farms that feed you = destroyed habitat = billions of animal deaths. Not to mention that they kill the animals that eat their crops. You are paying them to kill for you, and you want to criticize meat eaters.
@USSBN734 Repeating a lie doesn’t make it more true. Your math is very wrong. Vegans do far less harm than meat eaters, and our intentions are causing the least harm.
@gyrate4 Lol! How did I know you were a vego-cultist. Let me help you:
"We thrive without meat." Thanks to modern technology (recombinant bacteria producing B-12 for supplementation, we can indeed thrive without meat.
It is, however, not the natural state for humans who are generalized feeders.
"world class athletes" Sure. Never have denied it. But while appealing to authority that way, be sure to mention that 99.9999999% of world class athletes are not vegan.
@sargentsolar "prius" Yes the ecoposer car, which is, in fact, far worse for the environment than your typical VW TDI.
"organic animals" All animals are organic.
"fast food" Deer can run over 40 mph.
"buy" I'd rather kill my meat than eat meat which was raised on a farm.
And vegans kill animals too. They just pay others to do it for them. Or are you under the delusion that farms don't kill the animals that eat their crops...
@gyrate4 "I'm vegan" So you eat crops that come from a farm. A farm that kills the animals that eat their crops. So in paying for your food, you pay them to kill animals for you. And then you criticize the people who kill the animals.
Hypocrite. But my question is whether your hypocrisy is based on ignorance, stupidity, or if you intentionally ignore the FACT that you are responsible for animal deaths.
"I was selfish" You are being selfish now. Stop eating, and let the animals live.
@USSBN734 You’re spectacularly egotistical and ignorant. Your reasoning isn’t sound. You’re saying that because I eat vegetables, and some animals may have been killed as a consequence, that I’m as guilty as someone willingly eating meat? If so, that’s not remotely accurate.
And by that logic, some women are raped, so we should go ahead and rape them all.
@guitarguy1751 you have probibly never set foot in the woods in your life, your just like all the other pussy's that hide behind your computer talking shit, us "rednecks" like the way we live and do things, you farm to make your own food? You live off what you make? I didn't think so, it's pathletic you even comment on this, before you run your mouth just like all the 12 year olds do on here take a step in our shoes see how you do, you couldn't last a day
@gyrate4 why would you watch the video if your gonna comment negitivly? No one cares if you a vegan, have you or the rest of your tree huggin group honestly done anything to affect us hunters...no. A few laws here n there we can't hunt doves in mich, but oh well you waste your time and breath by preaching to people who obviously don't give a SHIT what u say
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You can enjoy your property, and the great outdoors with killing. Hunting, if done properly, is far better than factory farming, but it's still unnecessary. Humans can thrive without any animal products.
@gyrate4 you can if that is your choice...that's my whole point, if you chose that, fine....but it's not for me and you shouldn't attack me anymore than I will attack you for your choices...thanks for watching
@mnjbooth “Choice” implies that you’re not hurting anything, when you are in fact killing animals needlessly. I’m attacking your “choice” because it is immoral.
@gyrate4 killing an animal needlessly would be to kill it and let it lay where it is and walk away. That would indeed be immoral. However, I kill animals and consume the meat, huge difference.
@mnjbooth It’s needless. If world class athletes like Mac Danzig and Tony Gonzalez can thrive without meat, a rotund fellow, like yourself, certainly can.
@mnjbooth We thrive without meat. It’s entirely unnecessary, and your motives should be called into question. Calling it a “choice” is very dismissive to the lives of the animals, and it still doesn’t purify your blood lusting motives.
@mnjbooth It’s terrifying to me that so many people pervert the nature of anything they profess. They claim to “love nature,” but they kill animals for fun. And "attacking your choice?" It’s my choice to defend the innocent. So I’ll continue to attack the vile “choices” of hunters and other sociopaths.
@sargentsolar so why is is any different to eat the meat from a slaughter house than it is from the wild? I harvest my animals humanely and consume the meat just as I would from the butcher. but the meat I eat is free from hormones and steroids and has eaten natural food provided by mother earth. I still eat steaks and hamburger from the store, but I enjoy wild game more.
thanks...it's good to hear a hunter who has a real response to anti-hunters instead of just rude comments. As my username suggests, I am anti-hunting. But I do eat animal products. Ethics tells me that it is better to go out and kill and animal that has had a good life in the wild than to eat one that has certainly not had a good life in a factory farm. so if that's the way you live, great. Just don't hunt for sport. Thanks for your thoughts.
@animalrightsnut well the cool thing is that we are both entitled to our thoughts and practices, and we can have a civilized conversation about it. I have consumed every animal I've ever killed. If I killed a big buck it's head would certainly be on my wall, but it's meat would be in my freezer too. hunters and anti's alike are wrong when they lash out at the other and say the awful things that they do. thanks for your comment!
im not here bash any 1..but wat you said i agree 100%..every 1 has there rite to belive in wat they want to..but when people start critising me and what i do..i been hunting for 30 years.i catch alot of slack over it from people how wrong it is..but yet i see them eating fried chicken stake and so on.and they ware leather..come on before they start critising me and my hunting.they need to stop and look at there doing.there no better then me and you..awsome video buddy..godd luck and safe hunting
@bigdave3171 hey, thanks for the great comment. I appreciate when someone enjoys my videos. They don't have to agree with me, but when you have an organized comment, that is what I like. THanks again for checking in!
These people are just so far off base with reality, it's too hard to get through to them. "Deliberate Cruelty", she is a lonely person who has turned to the deer in her backyard for enjoyment and a feeling of wantedness that she cannot get in her own life. She feeds the deer and has emotional and physical attatchment to these deer that she gives names to, she told me one time that "She looks at them as if they were her children". Thats who were dealing with...I feel sorry for them in a way.
@mecostacounty I can understand what you're saying about feeling sorry for them, it's kinda sad when someone can become as delusional as some of these people do. thanks for watching
@gyrate4, I've hunted with a variety of people, always people that I know, I've witnessed zero sociopathic behavior. You must have hunted with some wierdos. The people that I was refering to "off base", are the type of people on youtube wishing harm to other because we kill our own meat. I won't get into to detail, but you know the type. Just because we can "thrive" without animal products doesn't mean we have to. We can thrive with them as well.
@mecostacounty However, you may not be qualified to say what is sociopathic behavior. You may be corrupted and trying to put a good face on hunting. I hunted for 5 years, and I met maybe two guys that wouldn't joke about "picking a spot." If you're a bow hunter, you're familiar with this expression. It’s what instinctive shooters say when teaching, but it’s duel meaning is, “pick a spot on a fawn.”
@gyrate4 Your a joke. Watch my videos and you will see what a real hunter who values life and the outdoors is all about.. Are you drunk or high? What are you talking about? Picking a spot? Put a good face on hunting? I'm not trying to be tough behind a computer either, I would say this to your face if I had the chance.
@mecostacounty You can "value life and outdoors" without killing. So why not admit that you just like to kill? Ted Nugent is a great representative of hunters. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t garner such a large following. He on Howard Stern bragging about killing an orangutan. He even mocked the screams it made from the wound he’d inflicted. He screamed a few times in a clichéd monkey-like voice then screamed, “SHUT UP AND DIE ALREADY!” That's the hunters I've known---fits a type.
@gyrate4 I do enjoy killing, its a satisfaction that you did it on your own instead of having someone else kill for you. With that being said, I don't kill anything that moves, I only kill what I can consume, usually 3 deer a year. If your a vegan/vegetarian, then there is no point to having this conversation because you nor I will change eachothers views. Ted Nugent is a great rep. for hunting because will support hunting/NRA until he dies. Did you watch my doe kill video yet?
@mecostacounty Why should I watch you kill? It's a video that displays a weak boastful character. Killing the innocent is attached to your self-esteem. You’re proud of your kills---make videos. Hunting is all pride and ego.
@gyrate4, Your a phoney, selfish human being. The reason you are selfish is because you would like to take away hunting from others to get a personal satisfaction of being able to stop others from doing something they like. I kill because I enjoy the meat and satisfaction of doing it on my own. If you eat meat, then you are the biggest hypocrite on the face of the planet! Get a life buddy.
@mecostacounty I'm vegan. I'm not being selfish. I was selfish. I'm having empathy, honestly. But humans are the most populated animal on the planet. If we all started killing animals, all of them would be gone shortly. Factory farming survives because of taxpayer subsidies.
It requires 2,500 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. It waste tons of fuel, and grain.
Most hunters continue to eat steak, and fast food, so they're not standing on any principles.
@gyrate4, What would you propose as to who should know what is best for nature? A bunch of environmentalist hippies? Your image of hunters is delusional in my book. Your thinking of redneck hillbillies that do not contribute to wildlife. Real hunters support and fund wildlife habitat and other necessary means for survival for the animals. As for dog killing, it sounds like your "hunters" hunt in backyards basically...that's not hunting.
@mecostacounty The motivation of the hunters that “contribute to wildlife,” is hardly pure. It’s so you can keep killing animals, not because you care for them or are concerned with their wellbeing. I liken it to a rapist wanting victims to be around, so that he may continue to rape.
@mecostacounty And it's hunters that are, frankly, "off base." They are often delusional in their pretense. Do you imagine for a moment that a bunch of hunters, that most likely couldn’t balance a checkbook, could know what’s best for nature? Humans can’t even keep their own population under control. The presumptuousness is astounding.
I have no problem with hunting. I hope to hunt deer one day. Then I can feed myself the way we are supposed to get food. Not by just buying meat from an animals that was probably abused. Hunters need to respect what they shoot, kill humanely, kill for survival purposes, not for fur or sport, control how much they kill etc etc.
Great video! A huge "Thumbs Up" from me, Matthew. You stated "our" position quite well. You said all there is to say. I don't waste my time with the unintelligible banter, either. Sometimes, I just delete the "stupid" comments & block the person as a user. I'm not on YouTube to argue with folks. I'm here to enjoy the community of folks with whom I share similar desires & passions. After getting to know you, I know we have this in common. Good luck this huntin' season.
Many hunters actually adore nature, respect what they hunt, and make use of the animal - but there are a good assortment of wealthy retard ones that just want to shoot things. Problem for me is that both of those groups are -VERY- fanatical about hunting, and the response to any disapproval from them is disdain and insult.
@quexalcoatl well I tried not to be insulting because I have had my fair share slung at me...I agree there are some egregious a-holes in the hunting community, but I believe (or in my experience) they are the exception and not the rule. I would call in anyone to my dept. of conservation if I felt they were breaking any game laws. Hunters should, and do, have respect for their quarry...thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching
Very well stated! There are definitely some nut jobs out there and are feeling all powerful sitting behind their computer posting threats and what not. I hold strong to the idea that if you dont want to see it dont go looking for it. I used to try to reply and to see where some of their thoughts were coming from but have come to the conclusion you just cant fix stupid. Most have nothing knowledgable to add to any sort of discussion. Good Hunting!
@mnjbooth It's not a heritage its means of survival that's like saying drinking from a river is a heritage. white folk have no heritage they just try to label anything they can get their hands on because they have no meaningful heritage.
Which is why i pity you, i don't know what I'd do with out my culture.
@Red2345100100 I'm having a hard time understanding the basis of your comment. First of all what does race have to with anything? I'm quite sure that I am aware of my Irish/Slovak heritage. And secondly, if your ancestors have been in this country for more than a couple of generations, then I can assure you that they hunted/trapped/fished to survive. If you are first or second generation in this country, then congrats, you live in the greatest nation that allows you your narrow minded views.
A huge "Thumbs Up" from me, Matthew. You stated "our" position quite well. I don't waste my time with the unintelligible banter, either. Sometimes, I just delete the "stupid" comments & block the person as a user. I'm not on YouTube to argue with folks. I'm here to enjoy the community of folks with whom I share similar desires & passions. Happy Easter. Keep in touch.
@MLBRENIZER somehow I missed that you had posted this comment but thanks for the great one Matt. I couldn't agree more...I'm not going to argue with someone who has no desire to have an intelligible conversation...thanks for watching!
I read what that guy had to say and I would report it to youtube....they are starting to make laws about that kind of stuff...99% of these people are just blowing, but in this world you just never know, you don't have to wait very long in the news these days to read some story about a whackjob like that doing something stupid...anyways, thanks for watching and be safe out there!
ok...im not really scared of him even if he is really wanting to kill me..i dont say where i live..plus i sleep with a loaded rifle next to my bed..and i always take it when i go into the woods...and a cell phone
Hi there. Do you know why God invented Firefighters? To do CPR chest compressions for Ambulance Paramedic's, lol ! Now hold on, I am just kidding, just kidding, its an old ambulance joke, my son is a Firefighter. Me, i just retired after 32 years on the job as a Paramedic. I think you make some great points in this video. Lots of folks point a finger and then go out for a big steak at 5pm, at noon they had a burger, and they started the day with bacon! Thanks for your video, take care.
hey thanks for watching, and congrats on a great career! being a paramedic and a fireman I've done my share of rib cracking! thanks for the great comment
I want to explain to you the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian. A vegan eats no animal by products of any kind. They are very careful to avoid anything that is tested on animals. A vegetarian eats dairy and eggs. They usually avoid furs and products tested on animals, but they aren't quiet as vigilant as vegans.
Bigskyhal50 sent me this video as well! LOL! I just wanted to clarify that I am not anti-hunting. I truly do believe that it's necessary but only when done respectfully and responsibly to both the land and the animals. I'm also a vegan but I would never berate someone who ate meat. There will always be extremists on both ends of any issue, which is a shame. Uh, by the way, what are sheds? :-)
about this time of year bucks start dropping their horns off their heads...they grow new ones each season...so hunters often go into the woods to look for them...they make great decorations and also it can let you know what kind of bucks you have in the area
well Blackhawkflygirl, I have to admit, in my experience you are the exception. I am sincere in what I said in my video about the fact that I respect the lifestyle you are living. Myself, and most of the friends I've met on yt, are called everything but human beings for hunting. Anyone who comes here and conducts themsleves like you or veglover1 has is welcome...without reason and logic you cannont reach truth
I've watched your video responses, and just like I've said in my video, you have an organized thought out reason as to why you do what you do. You don't agree with hunting, which I'm ok with, but you don't feel you have the right to infringe upon my lawful right to hunt in my state. Totally on board.
Well, unless of course it directly affects them. Take Miss PeTA herself, Ingrid Newkirk. She rants on and on about animals, yet when she is diagnosed with diabetes, she is all to willing to use insulin for herself even if it was developed using animal testing. Yet she would think nothing of denying it for someone else. You know I have no issue with vegheads or vegans for that matter. Yet that kind of hypocrisy and the expectation that others MUST follow their beliefs is despicable.
that is exactly the kind of hypocrisy this video is directed at...they will say these things but they don't want to be held to the same standard...they say we can't eat deer, but they eat meat...doesn't make any sense to me
Yep, sadly, rational thought isn't one of their strong suits, at least the vast majority of them.
You see, I get and respect people like veglover. She has her life and choices, I have mine and instead of seeing the difference as something to conquer, we just respect it for what it is.
it is really a shame that they say some of the horrible things they do to make themselves feel better...I think that is truly shameful (and yes cowardly) to act in such a fashion...not to mention immature! thanks for watching
You are truly a good man. I am a heathen, and I fight in the trenches with those idiots. You my friend, have a good sole, And you have something I am lacking. I appreciate seeing you guy's getting involved, and taking a stand. I pray every day our fellow hunting brothers get involved, and you are setting a very good example.
you shouldn't look at it that way...you do amazing work and your videos are phenomenal! we are all in this together and have to stick together to keep our heritage alive! but thank you anyways for your very kind words and thanks for watching!
Antis don't have a clue if you packed their butts into increasingly smaller places with increasingly less amounts of food they might get a picture of the part we play in growth control survival is based on eating and as long as god provides wildlife for their part in the chain illl be trying to take it at least it's chemical free and natural grown
Well said my Friend!!! I agree 100%. The thing that is funny about the antis is that they are foul mouthed, hateful, disrespectful, and they sure give themeselves a reputation as being a bit looney. I really just take everything they say with a grain of salt, and just tell them they are barking up the wrong tree...fighting a losing battle. Sometimes I feel they are just looking for some attention.
Exactly...that is my only thing...if you want to argue just have some common/scientific sense about what you are saying....thanks Dude for watching as usual
Thank you sir!!You do your thing and I'll do mine thats my modo and I live by it!!As long as you dont hurt anybody thats your way of life and I'll never tell you you're wrong for the way you live so please dont tell me Im wrong for the way I live..Very well put brother.
well I just felt the urge while I was walking around to put my two cents in...I see alot of us dealing with these loonies and it irritates me to no end...thanks for watching
We don't have to eat cow!!! They can't make us!!! If there's a harvestable crop of heathy, lean venison, pork, turkey, etc. then that's my food of choice!!
I sure appreciate you speaking out on our behalf and conveying our message about the importance for us to get into the spirit of the wild and to enjoy our time in the woods with family and friends!! It's the best thing on Planet Earth!!
Great Video and Thanks again for gettin our back here!!
thanks Robert, there was a lot more I wanted to say but I would have been rambling on for 20 mins...I don't mind if you don't agree with the hunting lifestyle we all live, but have some sense about what you are saying that's all...thanks for watching as usual!
If its hunting for food, then its perfectly fine. But if its hunting for sport, thats wrong.
XxEAZYxExX 3 months ago
@XxEAZYxExX i eat every animal i kill
mnjbooth 3 months ago
Bottom line gyrate, your claims at moral superiority are completely hollow.
You pay to have animals killed, and waste their carcasses by not eating them. I pay to buy land and set it aside so animals have a place to live in the wild, and kill them for food, not wasting them.
The farms that feed you were forest, destroyed to feed you, killing and displacing every animal that lived there. You can lie about it all you want, but the truth of that statement is self-evident and unassailable.
USSBN734 4 months ago
Lol! How did I know you were a vego-cultist. Let me help you:
"We thrive without meat." Thanks to modern technology (recombinant bacteria producing B-12 for supplementation, we can indeed thrive without meat.
It is, however, not the natural state for humans who are generalized feeders.
"world class athletes" Sure. Never have denied it. But while appealing to authority that way, be sure to mention that 99.9999999% of world class athletes are not vegan.
USSBN734 4 months ago
gyrate,
Whether you eat meat or not. You are responsible for animal deaths. You pay for them to be killed, and denying that stone-cold fact just reveals you as a fool.
If you want to be a good ambassador for veganism, then this isn't the way to do it. Instead, try to promote it on the basis of health, because your argument about "reducing cruelty" is just not accurate.
The farmers, the people who feed you, know better.
That is sincerely friendly advice.
USSBN734 4 months ago 2
Son, it is called science. You might want to start with one of the simpler studies, since you obviously lack reading comprehension and critical thinking abilities.
"Geographical patterns of human diet derived from stable-isotope analysis of fingernails." Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006 Sep;131(1):137-46.
That is just one of hundreds studies. Found that traditional vegetarian societies, weren't.
AA's aren't the problem. B12 is. Educate yourself. You are just embarrassing yourself.
USSBN734 4 months ago 2
Ok. I am tired of trying to have an intelligent conversation with a mindless cultist.
Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan with your ignorance, lies, and stupidity.
And remember, every time you buy food, you are paying for animals to be killed, and wasting their carcasses. Hunters, on the other hand, eat what they kill, demonstrating a vastly greater respect for the animal and ecosystem.
Truth hurts, boy.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "Hunting attracts a type."
Yep. The type that buys land, and sets it aside for wildlife, instead of living in a concrete jungle of destroyed forest, and buying more food from farms that destroy even more of our ecosystem.
The type that has a clue about nature, and actually spends time in it.
The type that takes the trouble to learn about the animals where they live, and care about the health of their populations.
Yep. That type.
USSBN734 4 months ago 6
gyrate you are a typical troll. you obviously didn't listen to a word of this video had you actually listened to my video you would have heard that I have no problem with the fact that you find hunting distasteful, and that as long as you present yourself in an educated, mature manner, you will be welcomed here by me. But, you resorted to name calling (as so many of your 'ilk' do) because of a lack of organized thought. you dont get the last word, you couldn't follow the rules...blocked
mnjbooth 4 months ago 3
Ok. I am tired of trying to have an intelligent conversation with a mindless cultist.
Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan with your ignorance, lies, and stupidity.
And remember, every time you buy food, you are paying for animals to be killed, and wasting their carcasses. Hunters, on the other hand, eat what they kill, demonstrating a vastly greater respect for the animal and ecosystem.
Truth hurts, boy.
USSBN734 4 months ago
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@USSBN734 “Congratulations, gyrate, on damaging your cause of trying to convince people to be vegan" ---USSBN734
I’m not trying to convert your lot to a plant-based diet. Anyone can see you’re a gloating, self-aggrandizing nutwanker. You give yourself congratulatory “pats on the back” for an argument where you have nothing to say. People can read--even some of the hunters.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 Son, it is called science. You might want to start with one of the simpler studies, since you obviously lack reading comprehension and critical thinking abilities.
"Geographical patterns of human diet derived from stable-isotope analysis of fingernails." Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006 Sep;131(1):137-46.
That is just one of hundreds studies. Found that traditional vegetarian societies, weren't.
AA's aren't the problem. B12 is. Educate yourself. You are just embarrassing yourself.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 No you’re embarrassing yourself, but you’re too vain and stupid to see it. You sound exactly like foghorn leghorn. Too funny LOL
The Framingham heart study found b12 to be “A Common Deficiency.” Supplements aren’t just for vegans.
Speaking of science. Animals meant to consume meat never, ever get arteriosclerosis. The leading cause of death in the USA is heart disease.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@USSBN734 Science is wonderful. Glad you brought it up. The UN is looking into promoting a plant-based diet, since farmers/harmers are causing so much environmental destruction.
You are the living embodiment of Foghorn Leghorn. “I told you so, I say, I put ya in ya place, I did. You built too low, son. I keep throwing the same useless pitch over ya head”
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "Hunting attracts a type."
Yep. The type that buys land, and sets it aside for wildlife, instead of living in a concrete jungle of destroyed forest, and buying more food from farms that destroy even more of our ecosystem.
The type that has a clue about nature, and actually spends time in it.
The type that takes the trouble to learn about the animals where they live, and care about the health of their populations.
Yep. That type.
USSBN734 4 months ago
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@USSBN734 Hunting attracts a type.
Yep. The type that’s glib about death, and accuses one of being “humorless” where there’s only cruelty.
The type that makes self-aggrandizing claims about altruism under the guise of blood sport.
The type that hates true competition so very much they call a vicious activity with victims, a sport.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 And "Wasn’t it you that was glib regarding deer being “fast food.”"
LOL! Ok. So you are humorless in addition to being a liar. Very good. Keep em coming son!
Yes I take delight in killing the animals that destroy my garden. Because in one stroke I am feeding myself, and reducing my dependency on the farms that are so destructive to our ecosystem.
And son, every time you buy food, you pay for animals to be killed. You cause more damage to the ecosystem then any hunter
Truth hurts.
USSBN734 4 months ago
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USSBN734 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "You take great delight in “hurting,” don’t you"
No son, I take great delight in taking a person like you, who is acting like a douchebag, and looking to pick a fight, and destroying your arguments and forcing you to face the truth.
All you can do is try to put words in our mouths, lie, and make ad-hominem attacks.
You cannot logically make your argument, or defend it.
And at the end of the day, you are still paying for animals to be killed.
And the truth really does hurt, son.
USSBN734 4 months ago
gyrate,
Whether you eat meat or not. You are responsible for animal deaths. You pay for them to be killed, and denying that stone-cold fact just reveals you as a fool.
If you want to be a good ambassador for veganism, then this isn't the way to do it. Instead, try to promote it on the basis of health, because your argument about "reducing cruelty" is just not accurate.
The farmers, the people who feed you, know better.
That is sincerely friendly advice.
USSBN734 4 months ago
"You know humans thrive" They can, thanks to modern supplementation. Not before. Might want to do some reading "Isotope analysis of traditional vegetarian societies." And "Biochemistry for dummies"
"so you’re killing them for very trivial reasons" Really? Eating is trivial?
And why are you paying for them to be killed, and how is that morally superior?
His land which is preserved as natural forest... and where do you live? In a city that was once forest that was destroyed...
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 “They can, thanks to modern supplementation. Not before…”----ussbn734
Your lies pile higher and higher in the refuse bin. No supplementation is necessary. All essential amino acids are found in plants.
gyrate4 4 months ago
Now gyrate, you just stay here and spam all this off the page so you won't be embarrassed being caught in your lies and cult delusions.
I have better things to do.
But it was good work on my part. We have demonstrated without a doubt that you are either delusional, a liar, utterly stupid, or all three!
I am going to leave you with this, though, because the truth hurts.
Every time you buy food, you pay for animals to be killed & you waste them. There goes your "moral superiority."
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 Now gyrate, you just stay here and spam all this off the page so you won't be embarrassed being caught in your lies and cult delusions.--USSBN734
You’ve recited the same misleading info repeatedly. Is that not spam? Perhaps not to you and your ilk.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "deluded"
Really? I am not the one who cannot face the fact that you pay for animals to be killed every time you buy food, and you allow their bodies to go to waste.
"It’s a lie that vegans don’t reduce suffering" So farms don't destroy habitat? And farmers don't kill billions of animals every year? And hunters don't buy land and set it aside & allow the forest to return & preserve forests?
You've been drinking too much koolaid. And you need to look up the meaning of delusion.
USSBN734 4 months ago 3
@USSBN734 You are a liar USSBN. Percentage of corn grown in the US eaten by people: 20
Percentage of corn grown in the US eaten by livestock: 80
So more incidential deaths from harvesting crops are caused by those eating meat. Therefore vegans reduce the numbers of animals killed. Vegans cause less suffering.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 You call him a liar when you post easily debunked bullshit? Funny. 58% feed and residual use. 28% ethanol. 5% high fructose corn syrup. 2% glucose and fructose. 2% starch. 2% cereal and other uses. 1% drinking alcohol.
And I grew up on a farm. His comments are accurate. Vegan diets are more destructive to the environment than are hunting based diets because of habitat destruction & killing thousands of animals per acre to protect crops. That is reality.
tarbmuffinable 4 months ago
@tarbmuffinable And Tarb, that 58% feed aren't crops suitable for human use. Less than 10% of that meets standards. MOST of that feed are crops that don't meet food standards, or are remnants from other processed foods like tofu, which is made from soy. The soybeans are used to make the tofu, and the remnants are not suitable for human consumption. That is given to cattle. The cult-vegans don't acknowledge that and claim it is food lost to humans. It isn't.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@gyrate4 By my "ilk?" Lol. Prejudiced in addition to being willfully stupid aren't you?
"Sport" I have never considered it a sport. Growing up on farms, and growing up with hunting supplying a significant portion of our calories, particularly before the success of my Father's business, it was a part of our lifestyle and survival.
And part of yours too, since we were paid to help kill pests at farms. Which you paid for, in part when you bought the food, thank you very much.
Truth hurts.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 “Truth hurts.” You keep saying that. You take great delight in “hurting,” don’t you. Says a lot about you. Vegans do reduce suffering. Reapeating the lie doesn't "hurt" me.
Studies have repeatedly shown the destruction caused by producing meat. I’m sure you’ll say it’s “unrelated to hunting,” but it’s always the sociopathic hunters delighting once more in killing the true, natural predators for the expansion of grazing land.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@USSBN734 “Ilk” Yes. Did I imagine it, or did I see you taking great delight in a squirrel being shot and killed on another video? Wasn’t it you that was glib regarding deer being “fast food.” Hunting attracts a type.
You delight in your idea, and it’s just an idea mind you, that vegans cause as much harm as those willingly killing animals. You hate people with compassion and those aspiring to reduce suffering.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "When animals are on the slaughterhouse assembly line" When did I talk about factory farms? Are you stupid? I mean if you are just an idiot, let me know and I will be more gentle with you. I suspect you aren't that stupid, you are just dishonest.
I have been talking about hunting, as you should know, if you have at least an average IQ. Or is this another case of you lying so you can argue with a point I didn't make?
And every time you buy food you pay for animals to be killed.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 You know humans thrive without eating meat, so you’re killing them for very trivial reasons. Either because you like the way they taste, or because you enjoy killing and dominating.
Seriously, look at this smug, fat wretch sauntering over his land playing the role of the big, fat guru know-it-all. I’d say killing and dominating is the reason.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "You're saying vegans may contribute to some deaths" There you go lying about what I am saying again. Pathetic that you cannot be honest.
Nope. I said that vegans pay for farmers to kill animals for them. You are paying for animals to be killed. That is a fact.
"so we may as well "kill, kill, kill." I didn't say that either, liar. I am pointing out that you kill animals, directly and indirectly with your lifestyle more indiscriminately than do hunters. Also fact.
USSBN734 4 months ago
Bottom line gyrate, your claims at moral superiority are completely hollow.
You pay to have animals killed, and waste their carcasses by not eating them. I pay to buy land and set it aside so animals have a place to live in the wild, and kill them for food, not wasting them.
The farms that feed you were forest, destroyed to feed you, killing and displacing every animal that lived there. You can lie about it all you want, but the truth of that statement is self-evident and unassailable.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "They claim to “love nature,” but they kill animals for fun."
It is funny how you cannot even try to argue honestly. I know why you don't. Because honesty would defeat your arguments.
I don't kill animals for fun. I kill them for food. And you pay to have animals killed for you (or are you still saying that farms don't kill the animals that eat their crops).
So try again, son. And try to have enough self-respect to be honest this time.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 Hunting isn’t considered a “sport” among your ilk? You be honest.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "I’m as guilty as someone willingly eating meat?"
You feel guilty because you are. Because those animals were killed to feed you. You paid for them to be killed, and you waste their meat by not eating them. I am guilty of nothing, except slapping you in the face with the truth, which you cannot handle.
I love how much the truth hurts you. I love how much you gyrate to try to twist the facts to fit your agenda, and I love how miserably you fail.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 You’re the most deluded fellow on youtube. You keep repeating the same lie---a lie anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see through. It’s a lie that vegans don’t reduce suffering.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "And by that logic, some women are raped, so we should go ahead and rape them all." Uh... you are going to have to explain your "logic" because that isn't remotely logical, but it tells us a lot about your thought processes...
"You’re spectacularly egotistical and ignorant." So you are saying that the farms that feed you do not kill the animals that eat their crops? If so you are incredibly ignorant.
"You’re saying" Nope. I said what I said, not what you are claiming I said.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 You're saying vegans may contribute to some deaths, so we may as well "kill, kill, kill." It's the same type of logic. When animals are on the slaughterhouse assembly line, it’s no longer hypothetical’s you’re dealing with.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 "dismissive" Not really. In fact by hunting for my meat, I am less dismissive of their lives than you are.
The ultimate in being dismissive, is your persistent lying about the animal deaths caused by you, the vegan. The farms that feed you = destroyed habitat = billions of animal deaths. Not to mention that they kill the animals that eat their crops. You are paying them to kill for you, and you want to criticize meat eaters.
Are you just an idiot, or a hypocrite? Both?
USSBN734 4 months ago
@USSBN734 Repeating a lie doesn’t make it more true. Your math is very wrong. Vegans do far less harm than meat eaters, and our intentions are causing the least harm.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 Lol! How did I know you were a vego-cultist. Let me help you:
"We thrive without meat." Thanks to modern technology (recombinant bacteria producing B-12 for supplementation, we can indeed thrive without meat.
It is, however, not the natural state for humans who are generalized feeders.
"world class athletes" Sure. Never have denied it. But while appealing to authority that way, be sure to mention that 99.9999999% of world class athletes are not vegan.
USSBN734 4 months ago
@sargentsolar "prius" Yes the ecoposer car, which is, in fact, far worse for the environment than your typical VW TDI.
"organic animals" All animals are organic.
"fast food" Deer can run over 40 mph.
"buy" I'd rather kill my meat than eat meat which was raised on a farm.
And vegans kill animals too. They just pay others to do it for them. Or are you under the delusion that farms don't kill the animals that eat their crops...
USSBN734 6 months ago
@gyrate4 "I'm vegan" So you eat crops that come from a farm. A farm that kills the animals that eat their crops. So in paying for your food, you pay them to kill animals for you. And then you criticize the people who kill the animals.
Hypocrite. But my question is whether your hypocrisy is based on ignorance, stupidity, or if you intentionally ignore the FACT that you are responsible for animal deaths.
"I was selfish" You are being selfish now. Stop eating, and let the animals live.
USSBN734 6 months ago
@USSBN734 You’re spectacularly egotistical and ignorant. Your reasoning isn’t sound. You’re saying that because I eat vegetables, and some animals may have been killed as a consequence, that I’m as guilty as someone willingly eating meat? If so, that’s not remotely accurate.
And by that logic, some women are raped, so we should go ahead and rape them all.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@guitarguy1751 you have probibly never set foot in the woods in your life, your just like all the other pussy's that hide behind your computer talking shit, us "rednecks" like the way we live and do things, you farm to make your own food? You live off what you make? I didn't think so, it's pathletic you even comment on this, before you run your mouth just like all the 12 year olds do on here take a step in our shoes see how you do, you couldn't last a day
dakAtajames27 9 months ago
@gyrate4 why would you watch the video if your gonna comment negitivly? No one cares if you a vegan, have you or the rest of your tree huggin group honestly done anything to affect us hunters...no. A few laws here n there we can't hunt doves in mich, but oh well you waste your time and breath by preaching to people who obviously don't give a SHIT what u say
dakAtajames27 9 months ago
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gyrate4 4 months ago
just another dumb redneck who thinks he is cool that he kills animals
guitarguy1751 9 months ago
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You can enjoy your property, and the great outdoors with killing. Hunting, if done properly, is far better than factory farming, but it's still unnecessary. Humans can thrive without any animal products.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4 you can if that is your choice...that's my whole point, if you chose that, fine....but it's not for me and you shouldn't attack me anymore than I will attack you for your choices...thanks for watching
mnjbooth 9 months ago 4
@mnjbooth “Choice” implies that you’re not hurting anything, when you are in fact killing animals needlessly. I’m attacking your “choice” because it is immoral.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@gyrate4 killing an animal needlessly would be to kill it and let it lay where it is and walk away. That would indeed be immoral. However, I kill animals and consume the meat, huge difference.
mnjbooth 4 months ago 5
@mnjbooth It’s needless. If world class athletes like Mac Danzig and Tony Gonzalez can thrive without meat, a rotund fellow, like yourself, certainly can.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@mnjbooth We thrive without meat. It’s entirely unnecessary, and your motives should be called into question. Calling it a “choice” is very dismissive to the lives of the animals, and it still doesn’t purify your blood lusting motives.
gyrate4 4 months ago
Respond to this video...
USSBN734 4 months ago
@mnjbooth It’s terrifying to me that so many people pervert the nature of anything they profess. They claim to “love nature,” but they kill animals for fun. And "attacking your choice?" It’s my choice to defend the innocent. So I’ll continue to attack the vile “choices” of hunters and other sociopaths.
gyrate4 4 months ago
@sargentsolar so why is is any different to eat the meat from a slaughter house than it is from the wild? I harvest my animals humanely and consume the meat just as I would from the butcher. but the meat I eat is free from hormones and steroids and has eaten natural food provided by mother earth. I still eat steaks and hamburger from the store, but I enjoy wild game more.
mnjbooth 1 year ago 2
thanks...it's good to hear a hunter who has a real response to anti-hunters instead of just rude comments. As my username suggests, I am anti-hunting. But I do eat animal products. Ethics tells me that it is better to go out and kill and animal that has had a good life in the wild than to eat one that has certainly not had a good life in a factory farm. so if that's the way you live, great. Just don't hunt for sport. Thanks for your thoughts.
animalrightsnut 1 year ago
@animalrightsnut well the cool thing is that we are both entitled to our thoughts and practices, and we can have a civilized conversation about it. I have consumed every animal I've ever killed. If I killed a big buck it's head would certainly be on my wall, but it's meat would be in my freezer too. hunters and anti's alike are wrong when they lash out at the other and say the awful things that they do. thanks for your comment!
mnjbooth 1 year ago
im not here bash any 1..but wat you said i agree 100%..every 1 has there rite to belive in wat they want to..but when people start critising me and what i do..i been hunting for 30 years.i catch alot of slack over it from people how wrong it is..but yet i see them eating fried chicken stake and so on.and they ware leather..come on before they start critising me and my hunting.they need to stop and look at there doing.there no better then me and you..awsome video buddy..godd luck and safe hunting
bigdave3171 1 year ago
@bigdave3171 hey, thanks for the great comment. I appreciate when someone enjoys my videos. They don't have to agree with me, but when you have an organized comment, that is what I like. THanks again for checking in!
mnjbooth 1 year ago
@mnjbooth no thank you..wat you was sayn on your video..i have said for years..have a great weekend my friend
bigdave3171 1 year ago
These people are just so far off base with reality, it's too hard to get through to them. "Deliberate Cruelty", she is a lonely person who has turned to the deer in her backyard for enjoyment and a feeling of wantedness that she cannot get in her own life. She feeds the deer and has emotional and physical attatchment to these deer that she gives names to, she told me one time that "She looks at them as if they were her children". Thats who were dealing with...I feel sorry for them in a way.
mecostacounty 1 year ago
@mecostacounty I can understand what you're saying about feeling sorry for them, it's kinda sad when someone can become as delusional as some of these people do. thanks for watching
mnjbooth 1 year ago
@mecostacounty I hunted a great deal as a kid, and I've witnessed plenty of sociopathic
behavior.
If you've hunted with a variety of people, I suspect that you've seen your share, too. In my town, they've killed neighbors dogs.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4, I've hunted with a variety of people, always people that I know, I've witnessed zero sociopathic behavior. You must have hunted with some wierdos. The people that I was refering to "off base", are the type of people on youtube wishing harm to other because we kill our own meat. I won't get into to detail, but you know the type. Just because we can "thrive" without animal products doesn't mean we have to. We can thrive with them as well.
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@mecostacounty However, you may not be qualified to say what is sociopathic behavior. You may be corrupted and trying to put a good face on hunting. I hunted for 5 years, and I met maybe two guys that wouldn't joke about "picking a spot." If you're a bow hunter, you're familiar with this expression. It’s what instinctive shooters say when teaching, but it’s duel meaning is, “pick a spot on a fawn.”
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4 Your a joke. Watch my videos and you will see what a real hunter who values life and the outdoors is all about.. Are you drunk or high? What are you talking about? Picking a spot? Put a good face on hunting? I'm not trying to be tough behind a computer either, I would say this to your face if I had the chance.
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@mecostacounty You can "value life and outdoors" without killing. So why not admit that you just like to kill? Ted Nugent is a great representative of hunters. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t garner such a large following. He on Howard Stern bragging about killing an orangutan. He even mocked the screams it made from the wound he’d inflicted. He screamed a few times in a clichéd monkey-like voice then screamed, “SHUT UP AND DIE ALREADY!” That's the hunters I've known---fits a type.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4 I do enjoy killing, its a satisfaction that you did it on your own instead of having someone else kill for you. With that being said, I don't kill anything that moves, I only kill what I can consume, usually 3 deer a year. If your a vegan/vegetarian, then there is no point to having this conversation because you nor I will change eachothers views. Ted Nugent is a great rep. for hunting because will support hunting/NRA until he dies. Did you watch my doe kill video yet?
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@mecostacounty Why should I watch you kill? It's a video that displays a weak boastful character. Killing the innocent is attached to your self-esteem. You’re proud of your kills---make videos. Hunting is all pride and ego.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4, Your a phoney, selfish human being. The reason you are selfish is because you would like to take away hunting from others to get a personal satisfaction of being able to stop others from doing something they like. I kill because I enjoy the meat and satisfaction of doing it on my own. If you eat meat, then you are the biggest hypocrite on the face of the planet! Get a life buddy.
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@mecostacounty I'm vegan. I'm not being selfish. I was selfish. I'm having empathy, honestly. But humans are the most populated animal on the planet. If we all started killing animals, all of them would be gone shortly. Factory farming survives because of taxpayer subsidies.
It requires 2,500 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. It waste tons of fuel, and grain.
Most hunters continue to eat steak, and fast food, so they're not standing on any principles.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@gyrate4 Well that's not me buddy, not me. Take your cares and preaching elsewhere.
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@gyrate4, What would you propose as to who should know what is best for nature? A bunch of environmentalist hippies? Your image of hunters is delusional in my book. Your thinking of redneck hillbillies that do not contribute to wildlife. Real hunters support and fund wildlife habitat and other necessary means for survival for the animals. As for dog killing, it sounds like your "hunters" hunt in backyards basically...that's not hunting.
mecostacounty 11 months ago
@mecostacounty The motivation of the hunters that “contribute to wildlife,” is hardly pure. It’s so you can keep killing animals, not because you care for them or are concerned with their wellbeing. I liken it to a rapist wanting victims to be around, so that he may continue to rape.
gyrate4 11 months ago
@mecostacounty And it's hunters that are, frankly, "off base." They are often delusional in their pretense. Do you imagine for a moment that a bunch of hunters, that most likely couldn’t balance a checkbook, could know what’s best for nature? Humans can’t even keep their own population under control. The presumptuousness is astounding.
gyrate4 11 months ago
I have no problem with hunting. I hope to hunt deer one day. Then I can feed myself the way we are supposed to get food. Not by just buying meat from an animals that was probably abused. Hunters need to respect what they shoot, kill humanely, kill for survival purposes, not for fur or sport, control how much they kill etc etc.
GIRsquad 1 year ago
@GIRsquad I couldn't agree with you more, and I try to practice those values every time I go into the field. Thanks for watching
mnjbooth 1 year ago
We have the right to hunt and we are never ever going to loose that privilage!!! I am proud to say I am a hunter!!
mirraco51 1 year ago
@mirraco51 I am proud too....thanks for watching
mnjbooth 1 year ago
This is a smart man
TheSkinsr1 1 year ago
@TheSkinsr1 I don't know about all that....but thanks anyways....and thanks for watching! :-)
mnjbooth 1 year ago
Great video! A huge "Thumbs Up" from me, Matthew. You stated "our" position quite well. You said all there is to say. I don't waste my time with the unintelligible banter, either. Sometimes, I just delete the "stupid" comments & block the person as a user. I'm not on YouTube to argue with folks. I'm here to enjoy the community of folks with whom I share similar desires & passions. After getting to know you, I know we have this in common. Good luck this huntin' season.
OutdoorsmanByDesign 1 year ago
Hey, Matthew. I've seen & commented on this video in the past, but I just had to watch it again. You speak much truth for the hunting community.
MLBRENIZER 1 year ago
Many hunters actually adore nature, respect what they hunt, and make use of the animal - but there are a good assortment of wealthy retard ones that just want to shoot things. Problem for me is that both of those groups are -VERY- fanatical about hunting, and the response to any disapproval from them is disdain and insult.
quexalcoatl 1 year ago
@quexalcoatl well I tried not to be insulting because I have had my fair share slung at me...I agree there are some egregious a-holes in the hunting community, but I believe (or in my experience) they are the exception and not the rule. I would call in anyone to my dept. of conservation if I felt they were breaking any game laws. Hunters should, and do, have respect for their quarry...thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching
mnjbooth 1 year ago
Very well stated! There are definitely some nut jobs out there and are feeling all powerful sitting behind their computer posting threats and what not. I hold strong to the idea that if you dont want to see it dont go looking for it. I used to try to reply and to see where some of their thoughts were coming from but have come to the conclusion you just cant fix stupid. Most have nothing knowledgable to add to any sort of discussion. Good Hunting!
ILArrowFlinger 1 year ago
@ILArrowFlinger thanks for the great comment...we all have to keep the heritage alive...thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 1 year ago
@mnjbooth It's not a heritage its means of survival that's like saying drinking from a river is a heritage. white folk have no heritage they just try to label anything they can get their hands on because they have no meaningful heritage.
Which is why i pity you, i don't know what I'd do with out my culture.
you have my sympathy.
good-bye.
Red2345100100 1 year ago
@Red2345100100 I'm having a hard time understanding the basis of your comment. First of all what does race have to with anything? I'm quite sure that I am aware of my Irish/Slovak heritage. And secondly, if your ancestors have been in this country for more than a couple of generations, then I can assure you that they hunted/trapped/fished to survive. If you are first or second generation in this country, then congrats, you live in the greatest nation that allows you your narrow minded views.
mnjbooth 1 year ago
A huge "Thumbs Up" from me, Matthew. You stated "our" position quite well. I don't waste my time with the unintelligible banter, either. Sometimes, I just delete the "stupid" comments & block the person as a user. I'm not on YouTube to argue with folks. I'm here to enjoy the community of folks with whom I share similar desires & passions. Happy Easter. Keep in touch.
MLBRENIZER 1 year ago
@MLBRENIZER somehow I missed that you had posted this comment but thanks for the great one Matt. I couldn't agree more...I'm not going to argue with someone who has no desire to have an intelligible conversation...thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 1 year ago
ive had my life threatened...read my channel comments
fishnkid1923 1 year ago
I read what that guy had to say and I would report it to youtube....they are starting to make laws about that kind of stuff...99% of these people are just blowing, but in this world you just never know, you don't have to wait very long in the news these days to read some story about a whackjob like that doing something stupid...anyways, thanks for watching and be safe out there!
mnjbooth 1 year ago
he closed his account tho
fishnkid1923 1 year ago
I'm sure that he did this to other people who reported him and youtube prob closed it
mnjbooth 1 year ago
ok...im not really scared of him even if he is really wanting to kill me..i dont say where i live..plus i sleep with a loaded rifle next to my bed..and i always take it when i go into the woods...and a cell phone
fishnkid1923 1 year ago
Hi there. Do you know why God invented Firefighters? To do CPR chest compressions for Ambulance Paramedic's, lol ! Now hold on, I am just kidding, just kidding, its an old ambulance joke, my son is a Firefighter. Me, i just retired after 32 years on the job as a Paramedic. I think you make some great points in this video. Lots of folks point a finger and then go out for a big steak at 5pm, at noon they had a burger, and they started the day with bacon! Thanks for your video, take care.
48alfaone 1 year ago
hey thanks for watching, and congrats on a great career! being a paramedic and a fireman I've done my share of rib cracking! thanks for the great comment
mnjbooth 1 year ago
good vid! cool message, i agree with ya. good luck with the shed hunting.
fracwilt 2 years ago
thanks a bunch...thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Awesome video. 5*
Most of them will never see the logic or common sense that you are trying to show, but at least they can't say they weren't told.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
true that....I think the ones who act like that aren't really wasting your time on anyways...thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
I got sent this vid by BIGSKYHAL50.
I want to explain to you the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian. A vegan eats no animal by products of any kind. They are very careful to avoid anything that is tested on animals. A vegetarian eats dairy and eggs. They usually avoid furs and products tested on animals, but they aren't quiet as vigilant as vegans.
I hope that helps clear it up a little.
veglover1 2 years ago
Bigskyhal50 sent me this video as well! LOL! I just wanted to clarify that I am not anti-hunting. I truly do believe that it's necessary but only when done respectfully and responsibly to both the land and the animals. I'm also a vegan but I would never berate someone who ate meat. There will always be extremists on both ends of any issue, which is a shame. Uh, by the way, what are sheds? :-)
Blackhawkflygirl 2 years ago
lol
That's what I wondered?
veglover1 2 years ago
about this time of year bucks start dropping their horns off their heads...they grow new ones each season...so hunters often go into the woods to look for them...they make great decorations and also it can let you know what kind of bucks you have in the area
mnjbooth 2 years ago
well Blackhawkflygirl, I have to admit, in my experience you are the exception. I am sincere in what I said in my video about the fact that I respect the lifestyle you are living. Myself, and most of the friends I've met on yt, are called everything but human beings for hunting. Anyone who comes here and conducts themsleves like you or veglover1 has is welcome...without reason and logic you cannont reach truth
mnjbooth 2 years ago
I've watched your video responses, and just like I've said in my video, you have an organized thought out reason as to why you do what you do. You don't agree with hunting, which I'm ok with, but you don't feel you have the right to infringe upon my lawful right to hunt in my state. Totally on board.
mnjbooth 2 years ago
@mnjbooth Thanks for approving my vids.
And thanks for clearing up the whole "shed" thing! lol
veglover1 2 years ago
Well, unless of course it directly affects them. Take Miss PeTA herself, Ingrid Newkirk. She rants on and on about animals, yet when she is diagnosed with diabetes, she is all to willing to use insulin for herself even if it was developed using animal testing. Yet she would think nothing of denying it for someone else. You know I have no issue with vegheads or vegans for that matter. Yet that kind of hypocrisy and the expectation that others MUST follow their beliefs is despicable.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
that is exactly the kind of hypocrisy this video is directed at...they will say these things but they don't want to be held to the same standard...they say we can't eat deer, but they eat meat...doesn't make any sense to me
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Yep, sadly, rational thought isn't one of their strong suits, at least the vast majority of them.
You see, I get and respect people like veglover. She has her life and choices, I have mine and instead of seeing the difference as something to conquer, we just respect it for what it is.
Eaglecreekbrewer 2 years ago
Thank you for making this. The anti are timid little cowards with no videos. The are on YT to spread hate.
They don't care about the animals they care about controlling people.
BruceH59 2 years ago
it is really a shame that they say some of the horrible things they do to make themselves feel better...I think that is truly shameful (and yes cowardly) to act in such a fashion...not to mention immature! thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago
@BruceH59 Bruce, you forgot about me?!
veglover1 2 years ago
You are truly a good man. I am a heathen, and I fight in the trenches with those idiots. You my friend, have a good sole, And you have something I am lacking. I appreciate seeing you guy's getting involved, and taking a stand. I pray every day our fellow hunting brothers get involved, and you are setting a very good example.
Rockholm66 2 years ago
you shouldn't look at it that way...you do amazing work and your videos are phenomenal! we are all in this together and have to stick together to keep our heritage alive! but thank you anyways for your very kind words and thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Blah Blah Blah Blah Venison Blah Blah Blah Blah Turkey Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Quail Blah Blah Blah Blah Yote Sausage. Well Said! 5/5
timmurphy316 2 years ago
Thanks Murph! Still not sure about the yote sausage though LOL!!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Nice video, bud.
BIGSKYHAL50 2 years ago
Thanks...thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago
God Bless AMERICA!!!
Fallenjensen 2 years ago
Amen...thanks for watching!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Antis don't have a clue if you packed their butts into increasingly smaller places with increasingly less amounts of food they might get a picture of the part we play in growth control survival is based on eating and as long as god provides wildlife for their part in the chain illl be trying to take it at least it's chemical free and natural grown
capnbull 2 years ago
amen brother...thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Well said my Friend!!! I agree 100%. The thing that is funny about the antis is that they are foul mouthed, hateful, disrespectful, and they sure give themeselves a reputation as being a bit looney. I really just take everything they say with a grain of salt, and just tell them they are barking up the wrong tree...fighting a losing battle. Sometimes I feel they are just looking for some attention.
5/5
-DUDE
hogdude1234 2 years ago
Exactly...that is my only thing...if you want to argue just have some common/scientific sense about what you are saying....thanks Dude for watching as usual
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Thank you sir!!You do your thing and I'll do mine thats my modo and I live by it!!As long as you dont hurt anybody thats your way of life and I'll never tell you you're wrong for the way you live so please dont tell me Im wrong for the way I live..Very well put brother.
5*s and faved
MrGETitGOTit 2 years ago
well I just felt the urge while I was walking around to put my two cents in...I see alot of us dealing with these loonies and it irritates me to no end...thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Well said!
AntiHuntersLoveMe 2 years ago
thank you...thanks for watching, God knows you've put up with your fair share
mnjbooth 2 years ago
We don't have to eat cow!!! They can't make us!!! If there's a harvestable crop of heathy, lean venison, pork, turkey, etc. then that's my food of choice!!
I sure appreciate you speaking out on our behalf and conveying our message about the importance for us to get into the spirit of the wild and to enjoy our time in the woods with family and friends!! It's the best thing on Planet Earth!!
Great Video and Thanks again for gettin our back here!!
5*s and faved for sure!!
LoneStarCreekRanch 2 years ago
thanks Robert, there was a lot more I wanted to say but I would have been rambling on for 20 mins...I don't mind if you don't agree with the hunting lifestyle we all live, but have some sense about what you are saying that's all...thanks for watching as usual!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Excellent video! Well said, and to the point!
5*****
Rockholm66 2 years ago
thank you
mnjbooth 2 years ago
great vid and point of view!!!i'm with you on that!!5/5 favd!!!
james
BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB 2 years ago
thanks we all need to support each other!
mnjbooth 2 years ago
5's and Faved. Excellent job and good to you've study your resources. Romans 14:2-3
TXBucksnort 2 years ago
thanks...God is the ultimate provider and I love spending time enjoying his creation...that's what it's all about! thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago
Well said brother I think for the must of us thank you I think we all have the same ANTIS 5*s and favorite. Jason
2024JayZ 2 years ago
I've been pretty lucky so far I've only had a couple but I know they run the circles and attack us all at some point! thanks for watching
mnjbooth 2 years ago