Bucket! Jimmy Smith Hammond B-3 cover - Nord C1 (Clavia) Organ

[nathanshubert]

Are you using foot pedals?

[rounder2u]

Hi nathanshubert

No, I'm not using foot pedals.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[fabian100fabian]

you`re a good Organist. But for jazz you have to feel the Music and you can cover the notes, but not the song.

[rounder2u]

Thanks fabian!

Jimmy Smith was The Master and creator of modern jazz organ.

I'm on a slow leisure jazz organ learning journey as I have written in my channel.

I recorded my 'Bucket' cover more than 3 years ago. Maybe I have improved a little, little bit since then, who knows.

If you are interested in a comparison of what my practicing migh or might not have achieved, please, check out e.g. my 'Common Swift Blues' recorded 3 months ago, and let me hear what you think.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[shecky308]

Do you know what is going to follow the nord for the new year,and is it better than the hammond?

[rounder2u]

Hi shecky

I don't know if Clavia is developing a successor to their current Hammond B-3 clonewheel, the Nord C2.

Both the Nord C2 and the Hammond XK series are great organs. I would prefer the Nord C2 over the XK.

The very best you can get, though, is the real deal: an old analog Hammond B-3/C-3 and a Leslie 122 speaker cabinet.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[shecky308]

Sustain meaning holding down a note on an electric bass.

[rounder2u]

Hi shecky

I see, that kind of sustain. Thanks for replying. I understand you believe I cut them a bit short.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[rounder2u]

Hi shecky

I see, that kind of sustain. Thanks for replying. I understand you believe I cut them a bit short.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[shecky308]

Hey can those bass notes be sustained,thanks.

[rounder2u]

Hi shecky

Sustained as in more volume?

A Hammond goes down all the way to around 34Hz i the bass departement.

Try listening with good headphones or sound equipment that goes down to 40Hz without rolling off dB in the bass (flat frequency curve). Then I hope you'll find bass enough here. Laptop speakers and other small speakers won't do for reproducing the full bass of a Hammond.

I might be misunderstanding you? :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

BTW, Rounder, I re-read your e-mails on LH bass last night, after they turned up at the top of a pile of fake-books which fell on my head. And the process is pretty much as you describe. And even tho the bass usually falls apart when you add the RH, if you have over-practiced the LH bass it is much easier to put back together.

I also recommend Eddie Landsberg's little book and CD on Hammond organ bass groove. Very useful, one step at a time, with examples. Helped me a lot.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

To over-practice is really the key, for us mere human beings. Good to hear that the process is pretty much as I decribed. Naturals are another breed though, as they just play like having two brains :-)

It's always interesting to have that feeling of mental over-heating and left/right hand coordination break-down when one starts adding the right hand to a newly ingrained left hand pattern!

I've read about Landsberg's book but never been able to get it myself.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[MarquisEstelle]

@rounder2u Over practicing is like a sentence to young musicians. But it is precisely in that we begun to find our own direction. I took classical for ten years starting at age 5, but all I ever wanted to play in the off time was boogie woogie, my teacher hated it and I had to hide it from her. Needless to say, I don't play classical now, but that knowledge of chords and scales is the foundation of everything else I've ever done. One must develop their own "musical intuition" that is your voice.

[rounder2u]

Hi Marquis Estelle

Insightful and interesting read from you! Thanks for sharing.

Wonder why your teacher hated boogie woogie? Boogie woogie - when played really good with a light elastic swing like Pete Johnson had - is a true art form. And to play it really good is indeed very, very difficult.

'freakyhead20' (Eeco Rijken Rapp) here at YouTube is also a really great boogie woogie player.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[waldo2384]

@rounder2u Hi Rounder. Your videos have inspired me to learn jazz organ. I'm on Day Three. I've obtained an ancient DX7, and have learned the bass line for All About My Girl, and can lay some simple chords on it so long as I don't get too tricky with the rhythms. I'd love to see your exegesis on playing LH bass. Holy smokes it's so hard. Thanks again for the inspiration.

[rounder2u]

Hi waldo

Thanks!

It's really good to hear that I have had a part in inspiring you taking up the jazz organ!

As you probably have noticed, I've sent some material about how to get going playing independent left hand bass lines while soloing on top. You are spot on: 'Holy smokes it's so hard'. But when it starts to click, it's a really great feeling. Great fun!

You're doing it right: focus on the left hand, then start adding the right hand. The left hand is The Boss.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

In my area, the Nord C-1 and 2 are not in music stores, and almost none are available used. Don't forget, if you gotta, you can use a Nord electro3 or 61 and Midi out the lower manual setting to another keyboard. If the keyboards can be stacked in a convenient way, this will work.

Can't beat the all-round effeciency of the C-1 or 2. 40 pounds, one case, and maybe a keyboard amp, and you are ready to go. If you use the PA, you are down to one package you can bring on a bus!

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

Yes, it's remarkable that it now is possible to have this kind of sound quality carried under one arm!

Quite a difference compared to when J.O.S. were travelling with a hearse filled up to the brim to get The Beast to the venue.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[MyLifeChanger]

very cool! which one to buy, the c1 (used one) or the nord electro 61 keys

[rounder2u]

Thanks MyLifeChanger!

Both products are very, very good. So which one to buy then?

My advice is this:

If you believe that you will use "jazz organ techniques" in your playing, then you should without hesitation go for the dual manual C1.

In my full-length version of 'The Cat' I use a number of those dual manual techniques if you wanna check them out:

chord slides and palm glissandos from upper to lower, 'thumps'/Hammond 'pops' on the lower, call & response, etc.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

Of course, considering the fact that it took me two years to get the organ and amps working correctly, and my age and condition, my first video will probably be posthumous. Oh well, there's no better way to spend my dotage than seeking the right notage, if you get my drift. My wife makes barbed remarks about my "organ not working right", but I maintain a dignified silence and withdraw to the studio and play "Candy Man" a song she particularly dislikes, for reasons she will not disclose.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

Well, there is no need to hurry the state you might be considering a prerequisite for publishing your videos, as I see it :-)

Your lovely wife appearently has to struggle very, very hard to avoid weeping of joy and bliss when you play the jazz organ. She is just very shy of showing her deep affection you invoke in her when you play. She is probably afraid of beeing percieved weak. Just tell her to don't be afraid of showing the bliss you are giving her.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@rounder2u Well, I like "Candy Man" ( Leslie Bricusse?) and I play it. Good song for moving a half step higher for a last verse. And I like the bridge especially. F- F#dim-Cmaj7-F#m7-B7-Em-Am-Dm7-­G7 more or less.

And the studio is hardly wife-proof. She does have the right to see where her money went.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

Those half steps are almost always as nice as they are tricky.

All the better, concerning your wife. I can now rest assured that your studio is the pride and joy for your wife, and something she are showing your friends and visitors as her best investment (after you, that is).

Please, remember to keep me posted about your soon to be coming non-posthumous upload.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

Every Rounder video is a lesson.

[rounder2u]

Thanks Mooser!

I can also tell you that is was a great lesson from The Master Jimmy Smith to me, when I started to study his original 'Bucket' take from 1963.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@Mooser42001 Wonderful to hear from you, Rounder. I still refer back to your essay on the LH bass. I haven't given up by any means. I finally got my A-100 hooked up right (it takes a balanced-to-unbalanced, Leslie input transformer, "one G and ground" doesn't work) to the Pro-3x and Peaveys and got a 145. I built a studio to contain everything, and I work at it down there. I will post a video soon. And I'm on the look-out for a used Nord. That's the way to go.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

As they say: 'You can't hurry life' :-) There is not one reason on this flat old earth in the centre of the known universe to give up, simple as that, as you enjoy your jazz organ/jazz gear organ ride.

Great job making yourself a self-contained wife-proof studio!

And, please, don't forget to drop me a line when you're done uploading.

Hmm, maybe neither flat nor in the centre when I come to think of what I have read about it in recent years... Am I that old?

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[SteveTeo2]

Fantastic! Got me back to my keyboard after so very long!

Steve

[rounder2u]

Thanks Steve!

'Got me back to my keyboard after so very long' - that's really great to hear!

Start swinging again,

Rounder

[hagarus]

Hi Rounder,

Thanks to you I was humming this all morning after someone mentioned

they needed to get a bucket for the overflowing Pepsi machine!

This is probably my favorite tune that you have done.

I enjoy it every time I hear it. Thanks for sharing your version of it. -Dave

[rounder2u]

Hi Dave

Long time no see :-)

Great that you like my take. Thanks!

Came to think of it: As you like 'Bucket!' why not give it a try yourself? You have the skills and you will learn a few choruses fast. Go for ingraining the left hand pattern first.

Oh, my... They get bucketloads of Pepsi from those machines now? Wasn't the 2 litre PET bottle enough of size to wash down a snack? :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[soulfire22]

Those bass notes are so "third stone from the sun" hendrix....now I see hendrix must have listened to him cool.....:-)

[rounder2u]

Hi soulfire

I must admit that I didn't quite follow you at first. But then I gave that really great classic Hendrix song a listen again (been some time since I did that), and still I couldn't follow you. But then, 2:30 into 'Third Stone from the Sun', the bass pattern kicked in :-)

I don't know if Hendrix/Smith influenced each other but they were both on top of their game and usually cat's of that calibre listen to a lot of other Masters, so why not :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Daniboy370]

Oh boy !! You have no idea how much I gain out of this video!! Thanx

[rounder2u]

Hi Daniboy

It's great to hear that you have use of this video :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[muurtalo]

Awesome sound! But how do you get used to the absence of the physical drawbars?

[rounder2u]

Hi muurtalo

Thanks!

Not a problem for me as I'm not that much of a drawbar player myself. I usually just dial in a setting and go. Or change a little bit, or use the different preset buttons. If I could wish though, I would still prefer physical drawbars on the Nord C1/C2.

Check out Eddie Landsberg, please, here at YouTube playing 'Days of Wine and Roses' if you wanna see a guy handling the digital drawbars of the Nord C1 in a pro way, and his playing is wonderful too!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[PLevel1000]

Rounder, do you have a chart for this tune or are you doing it by ear? If you have something I would love to take a look at it. I'm working on your green onions tune now. Love your stuff. Keep it up.

[rounder2u]

Hi PLevel1000

Good to hear that you like my stuff. Thanks!

Sorry, I've got no chart or anything else for 'Bucket'. I learned and play the song by ear. And I tell you, it took some time to memorize the whole darn song! :-)

I hope and believe, though, that my overhead camcorder view will be of help for you if you go for learning 'Bucket'.

You just keep on follow my guide for Green Onions, and I promise you: You'll nail it! :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[DX7Alex]

Great work Rounder! Bucket is one of my favorite JS songs. Your C1 sounds great, too. I went to Guitar Center last night to play a used Roland VK-7. I was less than impressed. The organ sound itself wasn't bad, but the percussion and Leslie simulation were just bleh.

[rounder2u]

Thanks Alex!

Good to hear that you like Bucket. It's not one of J.O.S's most famous songs, but it has a nice laid back soul jazz groove.

About the VK-7 Leslie sim. It is very tricky to simulate a tubed Leslie, with it's rotating horn Doppler effect, tube dist, sound waves bouncing in the cabinet and finally slipping out through the louvre, etc. Many have tried but few have really managed very well. Nord C1/C2 have really good Leslie sim's, except for the tube dist part.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[DX7Alex]

@rounder2u Yeah, I don't know about the C1/C2, never played one, but the Electro 3 I played afterward had a good Leslie sim.

Alex

[rounder2u]

Hi Alex

I believe the Nord Electro 3 share the same organ module and Leslie sim as the Nord C1. This means you now have a good grasp of the sound of the C1, and to a great extent of the C2.

The organ and Leslie is a tad improved on the Nord C2 (and, of course, the C2 have the sampled baroque pipe organ in addition to the B-3, the Vox and the Farfisa modules).

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[hugleberthumperdink]

rounder2u, is there any way of making the C1 sound any dirtier? as in can you introduce the classic sound of some old valves or poor key connection etc?

[rounder2u]

Hi hugleberthumperdink

I have the Tonewheel mode Vintage 2 (high level of tonewheel crosstalk and cable leakage artefacts) setting, but to get it even dirtier (that lovely tube distortion) you need to connect the C1 (or C2) to an overdriven external tubed pre-amp.

Even better if you connect the organ to an all tubed Leslie.

In short, like you do with a real Hammond B-3/C-3.

The built in Dist in the C1 wont, unfortunately, cut the mustard, and no solid state dist do.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[rounder2u]

Just wanna add. You will find all settings and drawbar registrations for my C1 videos if you click the little button to the right of the abbreviated info text for the video. The button that button looks like an upside down Citroën logo :-)

[hugleberthumperdink]

@rounder2u cheers man, greatly appreciated. Im thinking of getting a Nord electro 3, so it has the same organ system as the C1. My m102 is just too huge to lug around, but nothing beats the sound of some valve leakage or just a goood run down organ. Except of course, a real B3. But hey, we can always dream. Cheers for the info man, H.R.C.

[Iceman400BK]

I wish I could move my two hands so independently

[rounder2u]

Hi Iceman

Send me a message, please, if you would like to have my tips about about how to develop an independent left hand walking bass line while soloing on top with the right hand.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@rounder2u I could sure use some tips on that left hand bass thing, too! Always played pedals, but that won't cut it.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

You have a message from me about how to develop independent left hand walking bass lines. Check out your YouTube message inbox, please. My 'message' is actually around 3000 words. I hope you find use of some of the info :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@rounder2u I am takiing a lesson today on the LH bass combined with pedal "thumps" from a local organist who learned it from the firm of Smith, Holmes, Smith and McGriff.

I appreciate your video covers and tunes with the chorus by chorus breakdown. I'm sure I'll be watching them and learning as much as I can, thanks again.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

That sounds great! As you already are playing the pedals (hence have foot coordination) you will soon adjust to the Jimmy Smith accent 'tapping' style. He usually just tapped (often at or around the Bb, just to get a 'thump') in faster tempos, and combined it with left hand walking.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@rounder2u I have a 1963 (early '63) A-100, recapped from Goff kit, played through a Pro3X and two Peavy KBA-100s. Use a Zoom Rf100 for reverb and effects. Loud as hell, but a little harsh harsh for home use. I have a very nice M-3, too.

[rounder2u]

Hi Mooser

Really nice gear you've got. You can't go wrong with an A-100! Congrats! The B-3, C-3 and the A-100 are the best of the best :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Mooser42001]

@rounder2u My gear is actually so-so. It's not ideal for use at home, too harsh, too many damn dials, and you gotta play it loud to make the sound come together.

Had an opportunity to try several different Hammonds and Leslies yesterday at my lesson, so I had a fresh comparison.

[Mooser42001]

@Mooser42001 Rounder, thanks for your prompt and generous reply to my question on Lh bass and Rh independence!

[guitarsnstuff93422]

Will trade a Hammond C3 in beautiful shape for one of these. Comes with a Leslie21h and many extras.

[realguy640]

The grooviest musican on the net!

thanks again man for all your help- once I get even close to your left hand ,I am buying a Nord!

[realguy640]

awesome! going to check it out now - believe or not, I bought a Korg M1 - like new for $400- the organ sounds are really good! I also bought an m1card called maxium organ - great jazz/hammond as well - only so much room in these apts in NYC so I wanted something where I can play some Depeche Mode/Eurythmics and the Doors - all in one keyboard ,just discovering Jimmy S and learning more blues scales - LOVE IT. What do you think of the Xk1 compared to the Nord?

THANKS The What's your o

[rounder2u]

Hi realguy

Be warned. If you start playing more jazz blues and start walking your bass lines while soloing on top you might easily get severly caught! You see, it's such tremendeous fun to play that style :-)

XK1 compared to the Nord C1/Nord C2? The dual manual Nord wins hands down. The reason is simple. Dual manual is very important for jazz organ as it makes many jazz organ techniques/expressions possible.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[realguy640]

G BLUES Scale?

[realguy640]

REALLY NICE! Love it- what key are you in? Blues scale - what advice would you give to develope left hand with solo?

Keep swinging - love your videos!

[rounder2u]

Thanks realguy!

Check out your YouTube message inbox , please. I have sent you a very long message addressing your questions about how to develop an independent left hand walking bass line while soloing on top with the right hand :-)

Yes, you are right. 'Bucket!' is played in the key of G. The pentatonic G blues scale is built on these notes: G, Bb, C, D, F.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[sadsack987]

Overhead camera view. Only way to go. Thank you.

[rounder2u]

Hi sadsack

Good to hear that you appreciate the overhead camera view :-)

Thanks!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[ray270990]

este clavia nord ,,,exelente ,,,!!imita al hammond identico

[rounder2u]

Oi Ray

Obrigado! Concordo com você. O Nord C1 órgão é uma obra prima do equipamento.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[DocLazybones]

So great! I was trying to find out what Jimmy Smith was doing, but never was able to reproduce it by ear. It's really helpful to see you playing.

Thanks a lot!

[rounder2u]

Hi DocLazyBones

Thanks!

It's really good to hear that you find this overhead camcorder angle useful :-)

It took me quite some time to figure out the right hand to this song, and to memorize those choruses.

I'm happy that Jimmy Smith took a laid-back relaxed approach when recording 'Bucket' (and not his 'Incredible' approach if you know what I mean), otherwise the song would have been utterly impossible to make an even remotely reminiscent cover version of for me :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[DocLazybones]

Hi Rounder,

well, I agree, we don't wanna be couch-potatos and better break our fingers...though a little bit of TV watching doesn't matter ;-)

You write in the description of your "Green Onions" vid that you have some information about the song. Could it be it helpful? I'm not a complete beginner, but there's still lots and lots of work to do....

maybe you could send it over to me.

Thanks a lot and let it swing

DocLazybones

[rounder2u]

Hi DocLazyBones

You have my guide for learning how to play Green Onions in your YouTube message inbox now :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[DocLazybones]

Thanks, very nice. It's useful indeed to get more system into my learning.

DocLazybones

[arizzoschettino]

Good to find someone else who is working hard on the Hammond organ! I am studying it myself and it's not being the easiest thing to pull off my hat..it's definitely worth. I just can't stay away from it :D I have a C1 as well and it rocks. Great sound, it shows you are really putting your efforts in it. I need to know someone else is fighting his way to become a better organist! Thanks for the video, good playing and good vibe. Keep the sound spinning! -A

[rounder2u]

Thanks arizzoschettino!

I agree. It's not easy, at least as I'm not a natural. For me it's Practise, Practise and Practise. Did I mention Practise? :-) Many times it feels like I'm on the verge of blowing a fuse in my brain. BUT, it's definitely worth it! :-) It's great fun!

I'm very, very impressed by those giants that showed us the way: Jimmy Smith, Jimmy McGriff, Richard 'Groove' Holmes and Rhoda Scott to mention just a few.

Keep swinging at your C1,

Rounder

[arizzoschettino]

I agree with what you wrote, as well. I feel you: sometimes I feel like my brain is telling me to stop and get a life. But I don't :D

[rounder2u]

Hi arizzoschettino

Get a life... Hmm...

Well, we can compare:

Alt. 1 - Have a 'life' and be a standard TV couch potatoe.

Alt. 2 - Strain the synapses to the limit at the organ by trying day after day after day to come to grips with some tricky left hand - right hand cross rhythm or polyrhythm.

I prefer Alt. 2 anytime :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[arizzoschettino]

Ditto! Let's keep it swinging.

[Vladaniel]

hi. my name is Vladan an live in central europe. my job is flying. music I don't know playng on the keybord. I see you and c1 and i start lear from keyboard. Nord c1 is super and zou seim.

[rounder2u]

Hi Vladan

Thanks!

It makes me happy to hear that we can inspire each other to learn and play!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[ChristophFCB]

and nice playing ;-)

[rounder2u]

Thanks ChristophFCB!

Yes, the C1 is a very nice organ.

If you havn't tried one out:

If you pay a visit to a music dealer that have the C1 in store, just adjust the digital drawbar settings for the upper manual at 88 8000 000. And Chorus C3, Perc On, Soft, Fast, Third.

Then you're ready for a jazz blues jam!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[ChristophFCB]

NICE ORGAN!!!

[vagnmoore]

thanks

[vagnmoore]

Hello, rounder! I was just wondering how you think the Nord C1 would be for playing The Doors or Deep Purple.

Thanks, Vagn.

[rounder2u]

Hi vagnmoore

I have concentrated on the B-3/Leslie sounds of my C1, but...

As of what I have read in reviews you can't go wrong with the C1. All three organs (B3, Vox, Farfisa) are nailed down in the C1!

Check out videos from 'kw231263' where he plays with the overdrive (dist) in the C1.

To get the best overdrive sound I suggest you connect the C1 to a tube amp (as Lord did with his C3), as no solid state amp or built in overdrive can reproduce tube dist to 100%.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[11thedogfather]

great playing and sound mate well worth the sub from a beginer

[rounder2u]

Hi dogfather. Thanks, and thanks for the sub!

I checked some of your nice vids and you're not at all a beginner when it comes to guitar and singing!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[choppsyboy]

hey rounder keep on singing matey

[rounder2u]

Hi choppsyboy

No plan to give up here :-) Tickle the ivories on this little beast is great fun!

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[counterstrikeforces]

hello rounder2u just want to know how much did you purchase your nord c1 organ.

[rounder2u]

Hi counterstrike

In US: 'Hammondrebuilder' here at YouTube picked up his Nord C1 for $2000 at Ebay. Normal price is $2800. What might be interesting is that the Nord C1 packs a Farfisa and a Vox Continental in the same instrument as the Hammond B-3 clonewheel.

You can check out clips by 'Hammondrebuilder' here at YouTube where he is making a direct head-to-head sound comparison between a 1965 Hammond B-3 and the Nord C1, or search for 'Nord C1 versus Hammond B-3'

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[db0007]

Awesome! I relly love this sound and playing!

[rounder2u]

Hi db. Thanks for your comment!

As you can see, I have used a camera perspective so that you can follow every move I do with my hands, which might be of help if you are playing keyboard/organ yourself and would like to play Bucket.

If that's the case, start with playing only the left hand bass line until it's rock stable, and you don't have to really think about it at all.

When you have the left hand under total control, then gradually add the right hand licks.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[db0007]

I relly want, but really cant play both hands. My playing technics is so low. So I amazed by you. Also Clavia instruments is great. I want Nord Modular G. But its too expensive. So I play on my Korg TR61.

How is it to take control on left hand??? I can't do this(((

[rounder2u]

Hi db!

To take control over the left hand (LH)

1) Learn the 12 bar LH figure (You can easily see what my LH is doing)

2) Play ONLY the LH! Practice as long as your muscles can handle it.

3) Use a metronome and play at lower tempo to begin with. After that play together with me on the video. Repeat and repeat and repeat...

4) Gradually the LH figure will be a part of you and you don't have to think about it or look at your LH.

5) Then start adding the right hand.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[jukingeo]

Hey Rounder!

Nice new toy you have there! Do you still have your P-120. I hope so...don't EVER get rid of that unit. It is still my favorite digital piano. P-80 is a close second.

Anyway, that Nord C1 DOES sound pretty good, but it is a bit expensive for me for now.

Anyway, have you played Leona Lewis' Bleeding Love yet on that unit? I am surprised no one posted an organ version of that song yet. Mostly piano.

Sounds great! Keep it up!

Geo

[rounder2u]

Hi jukinhgeo. Welcome back :-) Thanks for your comment!

Yes, I'm still keeping my old battered toy - the P-120 :-)

I've heard Bleeding Love but not played it on the organ.

The Nord C1 does indeed sound good, and for the money you'll have a combo organ with three organs: the main clonewheel Hammond B-3, but also a Farfisa and a Vox Continental.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[jukingeo]

Hello Rounder,

I think the big thing that set me off on the Nord organs were the drawbars (or lack thereof). I would say in terms of hardware, the full Hammond XK3 probably is my favorite right now. But I still am impressed with NI's B4 for a software based unit. I also still have my Voce V5 module. The V5 was THE first believable B3 clone for me. But it isn't as capable as B4 is, so I don't use it much. BTW, so far your Green Onions cover is the best! Gotta love the P-120.

[rounder2u]

Hi jukingeo

Regarding the Nord C1's digital drawbars, it seems that it takes just two hours for a Hammond B-3 pro player to get used to them.

YouTube has a very interesting head-to-head sound and feel comparison, done by a pro, of a 1965 Hammond B-3 and a Nord C1. Search for

Nord C1 versus Hammond B-3

(I can't post the link in this comment)

The comments to that clip are also interesting, as the pro player Eddie Landsberg draws from his experience with the Nord C1.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[jukingeo]

Hello Rounder,

Understood about not being able to post links here. Anyway I will check that out.

At any rate, I am not doubting the sound too much with the Nord products as they are pretty close too. But the digital drawbars do bother me. I am just like that though. A bit old school yes, but even with real pipe organs. I love my buttons (or drawbars)...and don't replace them with a digital panel.

But obviously if size, weight and cost weren't an option, give me the real B3 + Leslie

[rounder2u]

Hi Geo

The most important thing as I see it, is that we in the Nord C1 now for the first time have a lightweight and affordable Hammond B-3 clonewheel that nails the sound and keyboard feeling spot on!

This is very good as it helps spreading the famous sound and groove!

Check clips by Hammondrebuilder and EddieLandsberg (Eddie is a top-notch player!) and their comments. According to Hammondrebuilder, other Nord products can't simulate the B-3 sound so good as the C1.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Triuntolearn]

Hi Rounder, Does the Nord C1 Clavia have a speaker that is built in. If so, is that all you are using to get this sound.

[rounder2u]

Hi Triuntolearn

The Nord C1 has no built in speaker. It has both an 11-pin and an 1/4 jack Leslie output. It has also line outputs.

The sound here is recorded line out from the organ. No external additional effects, amplifiers or speakers are used.

Click the button 'More info' where I have written down all settings I'm using here.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[Triuntolearn]

That's what I'm talking about!! That is sounding really good. Love those phat chords you are using and your bassline.

[rounder2u]

Hi Triuntolearn. Thanks!

Regarding those chords, at around 1 min 50 sec into the song, the C9/E is a good right hand stretch for me :-)

The bassline took a while to get control over because of two things. First, the rhythm is kind of 'irregular'. The root notes are quarter notes and the other eight notes. Second, it uses anticipation - the pattern starts 'ahead' (the bar before).

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[kw231263]

Hi Rounder

Great playing and the C1 sounds great.I would love to hear one through a tube leslie.

Best Regards Kim

[rounder2u]

Hi Kim

Thanks!

It would indeed be great to hear the Nord C1 through a tube Leslie! That combination would most probably be able to produce a nice warm overdrive sound.

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[acelann]

Youre sooo good!!!

[rounder2u]

Thanks acelann!

[rounder2u]

Hi jrundruud. Thanks!

A bit staccato without a backing band? Well, maybe the song sounds 'bare' without a rhythm section. It's recorded straight from the line out, as you have seen in the description, and even if the built in Leslie sim is very, very capable, I'd say that a free standing Leslie with tubes would 'fatten up' the sound more.

Or a bit staccato regarding technique? Usually I have a tendency playing a tad too much legato :-)

Keep swinging,

Rounder

[jrundruud]

Great play and brilliant sound from the Nord.

Maby a bit staccato without the backing ;)