Initial Cleaning of a new Military Surplus rifle acquisition Part 2

[Megzamani]

Thank you. Just now am looking for my first milsup rifle. Any recommends taken

[andlev14]

I counted 23 marks on my 91-30 that I can't identify. (not date or ID number or arsenal marks) Is there any way to find out what some of these mean?

[cappaletti]

I REALLY enjoy all ur videos..very informative..how bout a vid on disassembly/assembly of trigger components (initial cleaning) ???? thanks...

[Roark1234567890]

I heard that some mausers (the earlier ones) have to use "spitzer" rounds instead of the normal rounds.... idk i also heard the mauser surplus for the most part isnt spitzer. help?

[appy234]

would it hurt the gun to leave the cosmoline on the gun i just bought a mosin nagant yesterday and the thing is covered in it

[bongresen]

you are the man dude.



[MAROSS396]

thanks for the vids, new to this and it has been very helpfull

[148scalemodeling]

my grandfather bought a arisaka type99 10 yrs ago he gave the guy a beer and 8 bucks and we have it now. It has scratches pits allover the metal it shoots but it has history too it it was made in hiroshima and when we were disasemmbling it some sand came out from here or some island in the pacific who knows but that is what makes it cool.

[Nkaddo11]

IV888. every video you say "sorry" for the length. STOP! Its ok. I would perfer a longer video. A) it goes into better/deeper detail. and B) its easier to find a section you want to watch instead of watching a whole video. And when you do find that section you want its more in depth.

Great Work

[haupper]

Iraqvet, in terms of moa, what accuracy would you expect from a Mauser like this one?

[mammiperse]

well done!

cant wait to get to the range with my finn m/27 :)

[GunGuy0]

hello friend..just bought a yugo 24/47 mauser and its covered in cosmoline..would you recommend completely disassembling the rifle..and if so do you know how to?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Yes, I would recommend breaking the whole rifle down. Not only to get rid of all the cosmoline, but also to check for safety, parts, etc.

I will make a Mauser disassembly video ASAP. Lots on my plate right now.

[ronpaul2008rocks]

Do the pictures at the end indicate the absence of pitting? What does a pitted barrel look like vs non-pitted?

[Iraqveteran8888]

GOOD QUESTION!

Yes...this rifle is NOT pitted, but just heavily fouled and still a little dirty. Many issues military surplus rifles will have bores that start out like that after an initial cleaning and them some "shoot and clean" over and over again will work it out more and more as you go along.

Pitting will display what look like little dots scattered in the barrel. This is where you hear terms like "scattered pitting"

[Iraqveteran8888]

There are some very light pits near the muzzle but very minimal...I just looked at it in person.

[slaughtor1]

you should do a vid when you look under the barrel, I'm interested to see how much rust and junk is under it

[rarebreed18]

i like to clean my sks weeks after shooting 100+ rounds of corrosive ammo, it makes it more fun... nah just kidding i did that once and the piton was slightly rusted inplace, it took a good wack to get it to move again.. always clean your rifles religiously

[skiottawa]

Airsoft- if you are shooting corrosive surplus ammo, you better clean it as soon as you return from the range.

Iraqivetran- thanks for so many great videos. Can you do more on the Finnish Mosins? They are my favourite. Also how about an accuracy comparison between various milsurps? I'm wondering if your Swiss rifle will group better than your Finnish Mosin with handloads off a bench....

[krazedlunatick]

i don't know about the rest of your subscribers, but to me, the longer the video the better! :D

[slaughtor1]

@krazedlunatick - agreed

[airsofter95062]

how often should i clean it like right after I get done from the range or can I clean it that night, or can it be done days after. by the way Im useing yugoslavian surplus heavy ball m30 rounds.

[airsofter95062]

does the mosin nagant m38 have chrome bore and chamber?

[Iraqveteran8888]

No...none of them do.

[7xrepiv]

@Iraqveteran8888 Is it possible to damage the barrel when using too much solvent? For example, if someone filled the whole barrel with the solvent.

[lilMAN792008]

you are the man help me a lot with my surplus guns thank you so much

[majinboo75]

hey man love to  watch your viseos i learn alil every time could you show us some good sights to go to to bye old millarty rifles like the k31swiss thank you bud

[Iraqveteran8888]

Samco Global Arms hands down. Them of Empire Arms.

[idgewe]

are you going to fully restore this one like you did the spanish mausers?

[Iraqveteran8888]

I haven't decided yet. This rifle has a ton of good character....I'd hate to ruin the value of it. I might just get the bore as clean as possible, put a coat of tung oil on the stock, and just enjoy it.

[slyde77]

great vid like always. where do you recommand i pick my selfup a nice WWII K98, up in nj there are not alot of mom and pop shops.

[Iraqveteran8888]

You'll likely have to find one on gunbroker if you want to get a good deal.

[slyde77]

yeah i look on gunbroker but it so hard to really see whats going on just by pics.....im just worried that ill get a beat job or a bad barrel or something.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Ask lots of questions and request additional photos. Trust me, if they want to sell it bad enough, they will provide you with all the information you need.

[slyde77]

Thanks man your vids are so help full. I dont want to get a mitchell mauser, i dont like the look of them with the sanded down stock but i have heard they make great shooters. oh btw great guitar playing im also i guitar player :) i have a 78 les custom and a 89 flying V :)

[Teco01ejg]

Very useful as always.

By the way, what are your plan on these rifles?

[Iraqveteran8888]

I am going to get them shooting good and shoot some range videos, as well as the process as I go.

[ECTBWHO]

: )

[Kevinrowe24]

What do you use to get grease off the wooden stock? I just picked up a mosin nagant that has more gunk on it than any other gun I've ever bought. It's a nightmare

[Iraqveteran8888]

For getting grease off the stock, nothing is better than just letting the disassembled components sit in the sun all day on a nice hot day in the summer. Set a trash bag or paper towels under the rifle parts to catch all the goo.

(ou can send the cosmoline to me if you end up getting enough. It makes a great ingredient for bullet lube).

[Kevinrowe24]

Thanks man, the gun was covered in grease and wraped up in newspaper when I bought it, you can literally scrape it off with your fingernails it's so thick

[SaltLight7]

What do you do in the winter?

[Iraqveteran8888]

@SaltLight7

You can build yourself one of those metal trash can rigs with some hot light bulbs in it. Suspend your parts and there you go.

[mauser3846]

thats a late war 98 by the bolt take down whole in the bute plate

[Iraqveteran8888]

I think you are right

[Gunluver1]

also invest in some gunk out!!!!! she gets everything out

[Gunluver1]

laaate war stock, missing stock disk and probaly didnt have a bayo lug

[fjcaron]

You got that bore cleaned up really good, doesn't look too bad except for being dark, you wasted no time getting to work on these, lol.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I don't play brother. When I do something, I have to go ahead and film it and post it.

This week I'll likely be bust with work, so when I can post a video or two, I have to take the time to do it.

That's why they tend to come in 3-5 video "spurts"

[fjcaron]

I can see, right on that's why I like your channel so much you bang out the information and share it with all. I have a few things in the works this week and hopefully I can get some new videos posted.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Sure thing man. Thanks for the support of my channel.

Look forward to the videos.

[fjcaron]

Also to add Eric, this rifle was produced close to the end of Mauser production for Germany in WWII, they were using stamped parts, such as trigger gaurd, barrel bands, etc.  The lack of a stock disc is also another sign of the reduced efforts in manufacturing to get rifles out into the field, the fit and finish wasn't as good as earlier Mausers so to speak. Also your touching on battlefield type uses are something folks often overlook, in many cases it also adds character.

[Iraqveteran8888]

You bring up a detail that I failed to mention.

Of course....Stamped parts, the exclusion of a stock disc....you are absolutely correct there.

I would imagine then, that the stock isn't likely swelled from excessive moisture, but just hastily prepared and fielded.

Either way, this rifle just screams history and character. I really hate to do anything to it.

You think it was common for rifles of this part of the war to be mismatched?

[fjcaron]

Mismatching was very common. Given the condition of the stock, I do agree with you though that it was exposed to some weather extremes.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Just adds to the character I think. I am going to be very careful in terms of sanding. I just want a light coat of tung oil to protect the wood and go from there.

In terms of restoration, I'll do whatever to it you want me to though. I can go through and refinish the whole thing.

[fjcaron]

It's yours dude, do what you feel right and most importantly enjoy in the process and we'll watch the results ;-)

[fjcaron]

I might add that the bolt was mismatched also, a friend from the old job was looking for a bolt that's why this one didn't have a bolt.

[CrystalHunter1989]

There's a K98 for sale in my area, I'm thinking about getting it. My primary goal is to get a safe shooter. What should I look for?

[TulaMosin1891]

lookin good my man. glad to see you didn't waste anytime getting to work on your new rifles. Can't wait to see some more!

[Iraqveteran8888]

Yeah man....I'm a busy guy. Back to work as soon as the weather clears up here though.

[Littlejon126]

Great vids Eric. I'm actually headed to pick up a new-to-me 91/30 from my buddy's place here in a few minutes, and though I've already gone over there and started cleanup, I've not really done a detailed clean yet. I'm sure it needs it.

PS - I wish I had a camcorder, I'd throw a video together if I did!

[Iraqveteran8888]

I hear you man. Thanks for the support of my page and good luck.

[patriot1232]

i just picked up a polish m44 from 1953 it is in like new condition but i think it was a gaurd rifle or something because ith has so finish rubbed of on the conner of the butt and a tiny tiny tiny little spot of water damege from being lend agenst and take of a rack or wall or something but other wise it is perfect and i got it directly throught an importer

[Iraqveteran8888]

Awesome. I like character in Military firearms. I have guns that "look and shoot nice" and some that "will never get shot".

[cutlerylover]

I had a question, if there were a stock repair like a splice, woudl that indicate an issued rifle? Or was it common to see stored rifles broken in the transportation process? I got a new 91/30 from 1932, I know it was made pre-war time...but I dont know if it was used in later years, also it came packed in cosmoline as well, does that indicate anything at all, or did all rifles even after use get a new coat of the cosmoline for storage? p.s I am new to surplus rifles and you have really helped!

[Iraqveteran8888]

Not necessarily...It could be as simple as the stock being damaged or crack during the manufacturing process. Many times, especially in later parts of wars when trees and natural resources are harder to procure, the stocks almost always end up being laminated instead of carved out of one piece to speed up the process. In the rapid manner which many Mosins were made, I would not be surprised if many examples were plugged, spliced, or repaired even before being issued.

[cutlerylover]

thanks for the reply, I have another question, do you know if it was common for an entire stock to be replaced or and old set of metal parts to be used? the serial numbers on all the parts match, except the bayonet, but the buttplate, the magazine baseplat, the reciever and the nolt all match, but the stock looks to be a newer stock than the original and the retaining rings dont match the style they used in 1932 when the other parts were made...?

[silver760]

I've located some obsolete caliber Mausers in the UK for a good price,may go with one of these as a toy for the summer!

[Iraqveteran8888]

Cool. I have been saving you as many random casings as I can to add to your collection.

[silver760]

Thanks Eric,1871 and 71/84 rifles all in 11.15x60R prefer to go for the 71/84 as its the first model that was multi shot with a tubular magazine,its also the cheapest! Good straight condition too.

[Iraqveteran8888]

I don't have any rare brass like that, nor any guns in those types of calibers, but I still like to read up on them.

[silver760]

Me too,I think I have got a source for some 11.15x60R brass,will have to have a rumage.

[Jesusfish21]

a rifle used by combat troops will always be negletced, and dirty, or possibly pitted and rusted, unless that rifle was issued to a united states Marine lol

[Iraqveteran8888]

I agree. Working troops tear stuff up and use it!

[johncub7172]

i dont think there is anything wrong with a longer video. your vids. are very informal and should not be rushed.i liked your point about the Russian sniper and the German! my 91/30 is in great shape, so i need a gun in this state to learn and understand. thanks for shareing, and i bet this gun will turn out very nice.

[Iraqveteran8888]

Thanks for the support. I am probably not going to molest it too much at all. I am going to buy a bolt, makes sure it headspaces correctly, and enjoy it. I'll likely put a light coat of tung oil on the stock to protect it.

I may touch up some of the metal components...We will see.

[robin6512]

never used hope 9.I clean with remmie 40 times bore cleaner.

Is there any difference between the 2?

[Iraqveteran8888]

Remington makes decent cleaning products. I would consider the Hoppes #9 to be a superior solvent to about anything out there.

There is a product called "Butche's Bore Shine" that is the hands down best solvent out there. Also a prduct called "Shooter's Choice" I think that is excellent.

In addition, I consider the best oil and general purpose cleaning agent to be a product called "Strike Hold"

[robin6512]

Right then; back to the shop for some Hop.

And let see if I can get bore shine over here.

[daywalker627]

I like calling it Hops myself LOL, or the man's man cologne heheeh.. Great Vid Eric, 5 stars....

[Iraqveteran8888]

Tommy....How are you man? I haven't been on the forum much lately....I've hardly had time to keep up my own crap...lol.

Tell everybody I said hello and I'll check in ASAP.

Anything new?

[daywalker627]

Doing pretty good. Getting some stuff done myself. I will pass along the message for ya. You definaty staying busiy in a good way. I am still going to give you a shout on some parkerizing stuff!!!! New? You'll see hehhe, building a lower for the Grendel upper im getting ready to order and starting to get into swaging. Will have some 45's to send ya for testing soon hopefully and some 44's! using 40 brass for jackets heheh

[Iraqveteran8888]

Look at you!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky devil. I'll be happy to evaluate them for you Tommy.

Send everyone my best wishes and I'll be over to check in ASAP.

[FatherJudgement2]

I would love to restore an old Garand

[FatherJudgement2]

Great clips man...The more we can learn from you the better so don't worry about the length of the vids

[Iraqveteran8888]

Thanks for the support.

[pukkepop]

very nice vid! I'm probably gonna look for a mauser this summer, so all this info is extremly usefull :)

[lynette1953]

i thought it was pronounced hoppeeeeeeeee's?

[Iraqveteran8888]

It is...but I hate saying it.

[lynette1953]

@Iraqveteran8888 loles:)