Wat people forget about Joe was that he was very hard to hit, yeh he got caught but got up everytime, (very few fighter are built like Kessler who's never been down ever) and another thing ppl forget was his unrivaled handspeed and stamina, I honestly dont think thiers been a quicker super middle weight, with exception of Prime Jones Jnr but thats a hard call. All in all Calzaghe is world class, most of you ppl need yo get off ya arses stop hating and go to the gym, until thn u aint got a clue
@Coldmoney1000@Lmkarimi - You're idiots!!! Start watching some fights taken from British TV on YouTube. You'll start to see how much more knowledgable and less biased British sports commentary is compared with inane American sports coverage. Joe Calzaghe fought everybody and won in style against the so-called very best. If Calzaghe were American, you'd be calling him the greatest (and you'd be right). You fucking losers!
@coldmoney1000 Yeah you can call him a coward on here, easy. But I really doubt you would be so open-mouthed to his face. What the hell have you done but just be another prick critic.
him and hatton should have another line of coke, they are both great british fighters but very ordinary on the world stage, more respect to hatton, at least he chucked himself in the deep end with the two of the worlds best in their prime
@lj2318 Ordinary on the world stage? they were both World Champions you dickhead lol, u know best in the the world at one point, fucksake idiots talking shit about boxing, dont have a clue lol.
Hopkins beat Pavlik . Pavlik beat Taylor twice who beat Hopkins twice. Calzaghe beat no one in thier prime so he will never be considerd by boxing historians as a great middleweight unfortunately for him. To be great you have to fight the greatest in their prime. He just was not worth fighting because todays fighters unfortunatley fight for money and Calzaghe was never a money draw.The great middleweights Hearns, Jones in his prime even Nunn would walk right through him and knock him out easy.
@Lmkarimi He beat Kessler and Lacey both in their prime, but cos he beat them they are all of a sudden shit, grow a pair, and u cant say this fighter wud win or this guy wud win, you just dont know, speed kills and Clazaghe hand speed was unmatched, nobheads who dont box and dont have a clue dont know that skill and speed are essential to be great.
@3eethr Kessler is an average fighter who was beaten easily by Ward. Jeff Lacy was not a good boxer more of a body builder . Calzaghe had speed but very wide slapping punches with no power. All the great middleweights of the last 30 years would beat him Hearns , Roy Jones and James Toney at thier middleweight primes. Micheal Nunn I even think Nigel Benn in his prime could take him . Even todays Middleweight champ Sergio Martinez is much more talented. Calzaghe just was never a draw.
@Lmkarimi Kessler aint an average fighter, your good at throwing names about tho ill giv u that, "wide slapping punches"? try steping in the ring b4 slagging off world champs soft lad, oh and as ur throwing former fighters names around u 4got sugar ray leonard who said himself that Calzaghe cud of mixed it with the best in his era i.e the fabulous four, ill take his wrd ova urs.
@3eethr I have been in the ring but not at a high level. Anything Ray Leonard said is not credible he is one of the biggest bs talkers. Calzaghe would have won a few fights but my point is against good competition of yesterday he would have lost easy. Its not his fault that the talent pool was so shallow when he came along. But because of this he will not go down in history as one of the greatest. This is my opinion and you have yours.
@Lmkarimi what sparring or actual bouts? and to be fair you have a point about not much comp, but Calzaghe smashed everyone he neva losed a fite! im a fighter myself (amatuer) and speed is so essential not just hand speed but in and out with good footwork, Calzaghe may not have had a perfect record if he were born 25 years earlier but he wud have been a champ and contender in that era as well, people who dont no much just jump on the bandwagon of coward and all that, u seem sound tho lad.
@3eethr like you amatuer. But have watched boxing religiously the last 25 years. Yes speed is important but when you are thowing as wide as calzaghe with you head wide open a straight right would have finished him. If you think a Hearns right hand would not have finished this guy you are in lala land. He would have lined him up and droped him easy. Calzaghe was an average definsive fighter . Also Roy Jones at 160 in 1994 was much quicker than calzaghe ever was. He would have beat him easy also.
@Lmkarimi Kessler, just short of top drawer. Lacy rubbish. You never saw Calzaghe fight in his prime b4 his hands turned to biscuits did you. Hearns, don't know. Jones, drug cheat, over-hyped: no drugs-no good. Toney monster, better than Hopkins imo. Nunn, Benn, are you KIDDING? Anyway, Bute beats them all, of that you can be sure.
@3eethr Bute was scheduled to fight Super Six winner. But now Ward is running scared. Understandable as he would DEFINITELY lose.
Okay, maybe that's a little unfair on Ward given his recent efforts, but he's going to have to go up against the best some stage. Let's hope they get it on later in the year.
@thespacialone Well Bute wasnt considered top 6 in the world hence he didnt get the call to join the comp 2 and half years ago, Butes a good fighter, and there was neva a contract or agreement that Bute would fight the winner, Froch has openly said even b4 the Ward fight that he wud fight Bute for the IBF title, people think that the boxers of the supper middle weight division are all scared of Bute. there not, Froch and Bute cudnt call it, Ward and Bute, Ward wud walk away the winner.
@3eethr "Bute wasnt considered top 6 in the world hence he didnt get the call to join the comp 2 and half years ago." Lmao, yeah right!
"there was neva a contract or agreement Bute would fight the winner." This is half right. A gentlement's agreement existed between Bute's camp and Ward/Froch's that Bute would fight the winner. I say give Ward 6-8 months - he earned them.
"Froch and Bute cudnt call it, Ward and Bute, Ward walks away the winner." Bute wins both, he is in his own league.
@thespacialone Pal this is prize fighting a gentlemens agreement doesnt mean shit, Ward is in a league of his own as Froch said himself that Ward is the best super middle weight in the world and I agree with that, Let Bute fight Kessler, Abraham or Direlle if he can beat them him and Ward should get it on, Ward still wins, and if i had to choose Probs Bute beats Froch split decsion,
@thespacialone... Also dont 4get Bute got dropped and KOed in his first fight against Andrade in the 12 round, the ref counted to like 21 seconds (hence he didnt loose) watch if u dont believe me, he had the fight won but got gassed, thats why Froch has a good chance as he has brilliant stamina and endurance,
@3eethr Such tired bs. You guys wield out this nonsense no matter how many times your lies are discredited. That was a legitimate ten count - so long as he's capable of standing under his own steam by ten he beats the count, which he did. Resting back on the ropes while the ref did his thing is irrelevant. So bollocks.
And he utterly destroyed him in the rematch.
Anyway, I'm tired of this. Ward is top drawer, never said he wasn't, but Bute is the best.
@thespacialone Well quite clearly its not tired BS, ur so far up Butes arse that u cant admit that Bute wudda lost had the fight not been in Canada and that Bute was not the defending world champ. U cant rest on the ropes LMAO, u have to be stood up on two feet under own steam and hold ur glovesout to show ref "ur with it" Also why the ref started to count to 6 then have a chat wid Andrade then start to count again from 1 is the real bullshit.
@thespacialone ...Plus I like Bute I really do, but I that doesnt stop me from lying to myself about wat I saw he got knocked the fuck out and the ref cheated, Even Bute new he lost reali, Y else did he give Andrade another shot, cos he wanted to prove to world he was better, and he did cos he is better, dosnt stop the facts of their prevoius fight, Bute gassed, got banged out and got a standing 21 count. End of
@3eethr "Bute gassed." Lol, did you ever see a guy gas worse in any sport ever? It was weird.
Thing is if you watch the fight you'll see he beat the count. You're right he should lose if the count was more than the time left in the fight because he clearly wasn't in a position to continue, but from memory it was completely a saved-by-the-bell scenario. Repeat: he DID beat the ten count - all he needed to do was stand under his own steam.
@thespacialone He stood up but Bute was out on his feet hence the ref stopped counting talked to Andrade, and started counting again from 1, if the ref had let the fight continue after only 10 seconds Bute wud have a loss on his record now, he didnt no where he was
@3eethr I presume the video clock is right. About 3 seconds left when Bute hit the canvas. Any normal count he beats, which he did, whatever the ref was about. This argument is settled.
I am as Win as Bute will be in 2012 versus Andre Ward.
@thespacialone 3 seconds left, waht does that matter the ref cheated simple as, you cant be saved by the bell do u actually understand that rule hence why boxers can win in the last dying seconds like andrade did, He did win get ur arse out of butes arse for 5 seconds and u will see he got KOed i.e has that been in the middle of the round Bute would of lost, and since when is a normal count 21 seconds long the ref cheated, Also 'I am as win' what kinda fucking sentence is that lol dumbass
@3eethr Douche. Bollocks to ya, if you don't understand by now you just won't understand. Ref count: IRRELEVANT. I fucking said if it had happened earlier in the round he would have lost because he wasn't in a position to continue. Learn the fucking rules, moron.
@thespacialone Theres nothing I dont understand, Bute lost, wats there not to understand. I know the rules Im an amatuer boxer myself and a big boxing fan so i no wat i saw in the Bute fight, and theres no need for to get emotional soft lad my opinion is shared with proffesional pundits and Bute himself hence the rematch, I dont no y u keep replying with shit... its boring lad
@thespacialone Haha, Blocked?! fucking pussy lol, U cant reply with a comeback so u spawn off a whole load of shite ya shitbag. I wud say ur a soft lad, soppy bollocks, but ya just an ignorrant cunt. Av that ya little bitch lol
Your a fucking idiot. You know nothing of boxing if that is your opinion. My opinion counts cuase I know boxing. Unlike some of you who try to come on hear and say what you think. Well guess what you fuckin dip shit its not what you think its what the truth is. The truth is Joe dodged everyone for 10 years with his bullshit belt fighting like 2 - 3 times a year or less against b level opponents. He beat 2 old legends and a hell of a fighter Kessler. THATS IT. HIS ENTIRE CAREER. END
@TreatedYoDumbAss Calm down soft lad u may think you know boxing, but u dont, U have just joined a few Calzaghe haters and talked shit, I bet u thought Lacey was gonna KO joe, but cos Joe destroyed him and practically destroyed his confidence, u now say Lacey was shit. Also I rekon u thought Kessler was gonna KO him, He supposedly dodged B - Hop but beat him years ago and b - hop's stilll a champ lol, He beat a prime Chris Eubank to start with. Get in the ring yaself b4 u slag off world champs
yes m8 could not have said it any better way.. the jones calzaghe fight shoulda been made in the nintees......... and joe voulda fort carl froch aswell instead of old hopkins and old jones
Ladies and gentlemen, super middleweight and light heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe took the easy way out. By turning down a fight with middleweight king Kelly Pavlik in favor of a bout with a fading Roy Jones Jr., the Welshman proved that he has no desire to be considered pound-for-pound champion. Instead of facing pavlik,or dawson-, Calzaghe fired his promoter Frank Warren and began the Bring on old Roy campaign. he opted to chase a fight that wasnt good enough to be made a decade ago
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old shot jones, manfredo and kessler lmfao 3 bums who have prove nothing,jeff lacy another hyped up nobody.answer me this tho.....why did joe fight peter manfredo jr after kessler n lacy ? surely he cld have foght taylor,froch,pavlik,dawson,johnson,woods etc the list goes on.if you ask me calzaghe has ducked all the big names.Calzaghe even retired to duck Carl Froch. - Calzhage actually fought the LOSER of an elimination bout...LOL only a fraud like him could get away with such a thing !!!!!!!
@jtrubilla Your a fucking idiot. You know nothing of boxing if that is your opinion. My opinion counts cuase I know boxing. Unlike some of you who try to come on hear and say what you think. Well guess what you fuckin dip shit its not what you think its what the truth is. The truth is Joe dodged everyone for 10 years with his bullshit belt fighting like 2 - 3 times a year or less against b level opponents. He beat 2 old legends and a hell of a fighter Kessler. THATS IT. HIS ENTIRE CAREER. END
It does count for something when Hopkins beat Pavlik with his speed and slickness, then Calzaghe proves to be quicker and slicker than B-Hop. Triangle theories go out the wiindow when you're talking about different styles, but we're not.
@jtrubilla The caps to emphasize you was because 'you' asked if someone else was dumb, for asking for pavlik/calzaghe as if pavlik/hopkins and hopkins/calzaghe was indication of the outcome.. but that is a triangle theory and it never works in boxing. Styles dictate fights. and WE ARE talking about different styles..Calzaghe is a volume puncher who punches at many angles. Hopkins is a lateral mover who punches in spurts, with a LOT of clinching and inside fighting.
yes m8 could not have said it any better way.. the jones calzaghe fight shoulda been made in the nintees......... and joe voulda fort carl froch aswell instead of old hopkins and old jones
Toughest fights against Past Prime fighters such as Hopkins and Eubank
Knocked down by bums like Mitchell and Kabary 18 title defenses against unknowns/BumsBest win against Kessler, who hasn't done shit in boxing and is already considering retirement. Calzaghe's career is pretty much a joke and he padded his record, Warren is more to blame as he protected his fighter, I mean a guy is pro since 1993 and you havent heard of him until he beats Lacy in 2006
slappy joe caz is one of the most disappointing things you can have in the sport of boxing when a fighter builds up a record against easy opponents, defeating them and thereby building a mystique built of so-called invincibility. Its been done in the past many times over, and theres fighters doing it now.--good riddance,bad for boxing ,coward fraud , dont come back slapper old man fighter cheat fraud!!!!!!
slappy Hes just spent 25 years of his professional career in England and in the end just beat legendary old-timers,,,,, In the old days it was PRIME vs PRIME, but Calzaghe only fights "washed up" fighters! or ducking fighters in there prime-- So even though Calzaghe held the WBO super middleweight title for 10 years he fought precious few I would consider talented and worthy of a title fight. That pretty much puts him in the class of being the worst champion ever
lmao say what you want, but he was 10 years as a middlewieght champ. even Barry McGuigan said, top 5 ever! and btw he's not english!!! a welshman fighting and englishman in england is like an american fighting an englishman in england!! so if he spent 25 years fighting in england thats impresive as fuck!!
Joke Slapzaghe the biggest fraud in boxing at the moment.
Ben Dirs on BBC tried to open a tribute blog for Calzaghe retirement. Instead it got filled with criticism of Calzaghe. LOL. That idiot Calzaghe would have seen it for sure. He knows that alot of people dont fall for his bullshit
@primeraprim Joe was born in 72 rjj was born in 69..Roy is 3 years older doesnt sound like a huge age difference to me. hopkins beat rjj and was born in 65 whats RJJ excuse? Hopkins is 4 years older!
as an American and NOT a Calzaghe fan id say using the age thing is pretty weak.
im not american. i dont slag of non american fighters at all. i hate ppl like u who say so anytime someone thinks a european fighter is overrated. if anything its u who is saying every white fighter is SRR
abraham is a great fighter n i agree 100% he would kill pavlik (and kessler). i thought froch lost to pascal so im yet to be convinced. dawson didnt duck kessler, he was forced to fight tarver again. REMATCH CLAUSE! kessler turned down johnson for no good reason though
Joe Calzaghe is a bum and very overrated. He ducked Glen Johnson on a few different occasions, and only fought Hopkins and Jones when they were old and on the downside of their careers. Bernard Hopkins beat him by 2 rounds in their fight. B-hop got robbed. Imagine what Jones or Hopkins would do to this overrated slapper if they were in their primes. Joe will retire instead of facing Glen Johnson, Dawson or giving a rematch to the deserved winner, B-hop. Go on and retire calslappy you suck.
jones is completely washed up, beating him proves nothin.. i thought BHop beat joe comfortably, outboxed him. u can say joe won but say he outworked him then, dont say he outboxed him cuz he didnt for a fact
dawson is out there, beat 2 guys who sparked jones. n joe fought roy so whatever excuses hes making cant be any good. adamek who just beat bell n cunningham is better than kessler, n harding is better than lacy. so dawson has d resume to get a crack at joe. n BHop deserves a rematch too
bullshit,cunningham is nowhere near kesslers level. outboxed lmao im not even a calzaghe fan but you must be blind if you think bhops dirty,boring tactics amount to boxing.
kessler gave calzaghe a better fight than manfredo,lacy,hopkins, and old jones combined. instead of comparing records, watch the fights. kessler is a big, strong, talented man who could clean up the super middles in no time at all, which is what he was doing before calzaghe came along...over-rated european?dont think so..
i said adamek, although i think USS is better aswell. kessler is one dimensional. BHops defense n counterpunching won him d fight, joe fought dirty too. call him boring, but hes effective. made joe miss n gave him a lesson.
lacy n manfredo r bums.. jones is washed up. n BHop clearly gave joe a tougher fight, i think he won it for fuck sake.. kessler is strong, but very limited. any decent boxer would make him look foolish
he is pretty fast n can punch wit d right. he has a basic but solid defense but a very limited offense.
1-2, 1,2 all day.. just like pavlik except pavlik can throw in hooks n bodyshots behind it.. just like pavlik if u take away his jab hes nothing. he cant mix up his attack n he cant counterpunch. his jab is good, but a skilled boxer can take it away. dats what joe did n then he had no answer. hes one dimensional. BHop would do him worse than pavlik
you must have missed where calzaghe came forward with a flurry and kessler countered with an uppercut left hook combo to the chin. his style is throwing a lot of straights sure, but dont think he cant mix it up when he wants to. beating calzaghe isnt easy, neither is hanging in there with him like kessler did.
kessler is much stronger and better than pavlik will ever be. imagine the damage kessler would do to lacy, and taylor was floored by him lmao.
i agree kessler is stronger than pavlik, but pavlik is a allround better fighter. both of em r overhyped though. lacy is d most overhyped fighter in recent memory, he caught taylor wit a punch n was otherwised dominated. so fucking what? ali was dropped by wepner. shit happens it means nothing. just cuz kessler landed a few non straight punches dont mean its a solid part of his game. reid n BHop both beat calzaghe, its not easy. but its impossible gettin him to sign a rematch
Mike McCallum was 40 years old when rjj beat him,rjj career was made up of fighting over matched opponents and ducking top contenders,hopkins performance against calzaghe was desperate and dirty he had a good first half against calzaghe then found himself outclassed and outworked for the rest of the fight,if he beats dawson,dawson was overrated all along seen it before with lacy,its funny you say hopkins beat him confortably yet you mention dawsons CONTROVERSIAL victory over glen johnson
BHop outclassed joe early, his age set in later in d fight but he had done more than enough to get d decision. u bring up ifghting dirty, ever thought maybe BHop wouldnt have gassed so badly iif it wasnt for d low blow. it take smore than 2-3min to shake those of
U CANT COMPARE DAWSON TO LACY. dawson beat adamek, tarver, johnson n harding! LACY NEVER BEAT NOBODY. there is no foundation to compare them. lacy was all hype. dawson EARNED recognition. he proved himself. u CAN NOT compare them EVER
4 rounds are a third of the fight and dont give me that nonsense bernard wasnt hit by a low blow,his performance was desperate for the most part such as feigning a low blow to try and get up on points
dawson is a better than lacy,yes there is a comparison lacy was supposed to destroy calzaghe that is a fact go back to the timeframe and lacy was supposed to be the next big thing in boxing and it wasnt until calzaghe beat him that people claimed he was overrated
lots of fighters were supposed to be d next big. lacy fell at d first hurdle. then he restarted against taylor n fell again. he obviously is a level beneath any top fighter
dawson already proved himself. harding, adamek, even a tarver past his prime n johnson no matter if u thought he won or not still proved he could hang wit d best. unlike lacy
he was hit low, u can see it wit your own eyes. it dont look bad, but if u ever took one yourself u would know it hurts plenty. he wasnt acting
yes he was acting it was blatantly clear he was acting he was getting worked over while it happened aswell draw you're own conclusion and im talking about the timeframe doesnt matter if lacy has now proved he isnt good enough the fact is he was supposed to beat calzaghe just like people claim dawson would,if calzaghe beats dawson,dawson was overrated all along and dont deny it wont happen because it would dawson is fighting tarver for a second time now anyways even though johnson wants a rematch
dawson has no choice but to fight tarver since there was a rematch clause in d contract of their 1st fight
so what if ppl thought lacy was gon win? it dont matter what nobody thinks it matters what u know. u cant give joe any credit for beatin a fighter who never done nothin. a fighter who fought 2 good fighters n basicly didnt win a round against eighter one
d punch hit him on d cup n knocked it outta place, dat hurts! it really dont matter though, its an illegal blow so hes entitled to 5min
Wat people forget about Joe was that he was very hard to hit, yeh he got caught but got up everytime, (very few fighter are built like Kessler who's never been down ever) and another thing ppl forget was his unrivaled handspeed and stamina, I honestly dont think thiers been a quicker super middle weight, with exception of Prime Jones Jnr but thats a hard call. All in all Calzaghe is world class, most of you ppl need yo get off ya arses stop hating and go to the gym, until thn u aint got a clue
3eethr 1 month ago
joes the man class
TheMrmysteryguest1 2 months ago
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Monty946 3 months ago
@Coldmoney1000 @Lmkarimi - You're idiots!!! Start watching some fights taken from British TV on YouTube. You'll start to see how much more knowledgable and less biased British sports commentary is compared with inane American sports coverage. Joe Calzaghe fought everybody and won in style against the so-called very best. If Calzaghe were American, you'd be calling him the greatest (and you'd be right). You fucking losers!
MrBarronator 1 year ago 4
Joe cowardzaghe the coward from wale
coldmoney1000 1 year ago
@coldmoney1000 Yeah you can call him a coward on here, easy. But I really doubt you would be so open-mouthed to his face. What the hell have you done but just be another prick critic.
bwallace77 1 year ago
@bwallace77 pretty sure i would
coldmoney1000 1 year ago
@coldmoney1000 Where's wale?
OoLs13oO 10 months ago
@coldmoney1000 cold monkey 1000 the clown from youtube
pug306rreg 8 months ago
him and hatton should have another line of coke, they are both great british fighters but very ordinary on the world stage, more respect to hatton, at least he chucked himself in the deep end with the two of the worlds best in their prime
lj2318 1 year ago
@lj2318 Ordinary on the world stage? they were both World Champions you dickhead lol, u know best in the the world at one point, fucksake idiots talking shit about boxing, dont have a clue lol.
3eethr 8 months ago
Hopkins beat Pavlik . Pavlik beat Taylor twice who beat Hopkins twice. Calzaghe beat no one in thier prime so he will never be considerd by boxing historians as a great middleweight unfortunately for him. To be great you have to fight the greatest in their prime. He just was not worth fighting because todays fighters unfortunatley fight for money and Calzaghe was never a money draw.The great middleweights Hearns, Jones in his prime even Nunn would walk right through him and knock him out easy.
Lmkarimi 1 year ago
@Lmkarimi He beat Kessler and Lacey both in their prime, but cos he beat them they are all of a sudden shit, grow a pair, and u cant say this fighter wud win or this guy wud win, you just dont know, speed kills and Clazaghe hand speed was unmatched, nobheads who dont box and dont have a clue dont know that skill and speed are essential to be great.
3eethr 8 months ago
@3eethr Kessler is an average fighter who was beaten easily by Ward. Jeff Lacy was not a good boxer more of a body builder . Calzaghe had speed but very wide slapping punches with no power. All the great middleweights of the last 30 years would beat him Hearns , Roy Jones and James Toney at thier middleweight primes. Micheal Nunn I even think Nigel Benn in his prime could take him . Even todays Middleweight champ Sergio Martinez is much more talented. Calzaghe just was never a draw.
Lmkarimi 8 months ago
@Lmkarimi Kessler aint an average fighter, your good at throwing names about tho ill giv u that, "wide slapping punches"? try steping in the ring b4 slagging off world champs soft lad, oh and as ur throwing former fighters names around u 4got sugar ray leonard who said himself that Calzaghe cud of mixed it with the best in his era i.e the fabulous four, ill take his wrd ova urs.
3eethr 7 months ago
@3eethr I have been in the ring but not at a high level. Anything Ray Leonard said is not credible he is one of the biggest bs talkers. Calzaghe would have won a few fights but my point is against good competition of yesterday he would have lost easy. Its not his fault that the talent pool was so shallow when he came along. But because of this he will not go down in history as one of the greatest. This is my opinion and you have yours.
Lmkarimi 7 months ago
@Lmkarimi what sparring or actual bouts? and to be fair you have a point about not much comp, but Calzaghe smashed everyone he neva losed a fite! im a fighter myself (amatuer) and speed is so essential not just hand speed but in and out with good footwork, Calzaghe may not have had a perfect record if he were born 25 years earlier but he wud have been a champ and contender in that era as well, people who dont no much just jump on the bandwagon of coward and all that, u seem sound tho lad.
3eethr 7 months ago
@3eethr like you amatuer. But have watched boxing religiously the last 25 years. Yes speed is important but when you are thowing as wide as calzaghe with you head wide open a straight right would have finished him. If you think a Hearns right hand would not have finished this guy you are in lala land. He would have lined him up and droped him easy. Calzaghe was an average definsive fighter . Also Roy Jones at 160 in 1994 was much quicker than calzaghe ever was. He would have beat him easy also.
Lmkarimi 7 months ago
@Lmkarimi ye maybe roy jones wud of beaten him in both there primes but who can tell, dont be a dick u were being alrite.
3eethr 7 months ago
@Lmkarimi Kessler, just short of top drawer. Lacy rubbish. You never saw Calzaghe fight in his prime b4 his hands turned to biscuits did you. Hearns, don't know. Jones, drug cheat, over-hyped: no drugs-no good. Toney monster, better than Hopkins imo. Nunn, Benn, are you KIDDING? Anyway, Bute beats them all, of that you can be sure.
thespacialone 3 months ago
@thespacialone Bute beats them all?? Butes quality but mark these words.. if he fights Andre Ward BUTE WILL LOOSE
3eethr 2 months ago
@3eethr Bute was scheduled to fight Super Six winner. But now Ward is running scared. Understandable as he would DEFINITELY lose.
Okay, maybe that's a little unfair on Ward given his recent efforts, but he's going to have to go up against the best some stage. Let's hope they get it on later in the year.
thespacialone 2 months ago
@thespacialone Well Bute wasnt considered top 6 in the world hence he didnt get the call to join the comp 2 and half years ago, Butes a good fighter, and there was neva a contract or agreement that Bute would fight the winner, Froch has openly said even b4 the Ward fight that he wud fight Bute for the IBF title, people think that the boxers of the supper middle weight division are all scared of Bute. there not, Froch and Bute cudnt call it, Ward and Bute, Ward wud walk away the winner.
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr "Bute wasnt considered top 6 in the world hence he didnt get the call to join the comp 2 and half years ago." Lmao, yeah right!
"there was neva a contract or agreement Bute would fight the winner." This is half right. A gentlement's agreement existed between Bute's camp and Ward/Froch's that Bute would fight the winner. I say give Ward 6-8 months - he earned them.
"Froch and Bute cudnt call it, Ward and Bute, Ward walks away the winner." Bute wins both, he is in his own league.
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone Pal this is prize fighting a gentlemens agreement doesnt mean shit, Ward is in a league of his own as Froch said himself that Ward is the best super middle weight in the world and I agree with that, Let Bute fight Kessler, Abraham or Direlle if he can beat them him and Ward should get it on, Ward still wins, and if i had to choose Probs Bute beats Froch split decsion,
3eethr 1 month ago
@thespacialone... Also dont 4get Bute got dropped and KOed in his first fight against Andrade in the 12 round, the ref counted to like 21 seconds (hence he didnt loose) watch if u dont believe me, he had the fight won but got gassed, thats why Froch has a good chance as he has brilliant stamina and endurance,
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr Such tired bs. You guys wield out this nonsense no matter how many times your lies are discredited. That was a legitimate ten count - so long as he's capable of standing under his own steam by ten he beats the count, which he did. Resting back on the ropes while the ref did his thing is irrelevant. So bollocks.
And he utterly destroyed him in the rematch.
Anyway, I'm tired of this. Ward is top drawer, never said he wasn't, but Bute is the best.
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone Well quite clearly its not tired BS, ur so far up Butes arse that u cant admit that Bute wudda lost had the fight not been in Canada and that Bute was not the defending world champ. U cant rest on the ropes LMAO, u have to be stood up on two feet under own steam and hold ur glovesout to show ref "ur with it" Also why the ref started to count to 6 then have a chat wid Andrade then start to count again from 1 is the real bullshit.
3eethr 1 month ago
@thespacialone ...Plus I like Bute I really do, but I that doesnt stop me from lying to myself about wat I saw he got knocked the fuck out and the ref cheated, Even Bute new he lost reali, Y else did he give Andrade another shot, cos he wanted to prove to world he was better, and he did cos he is better, dosnt stop the facts of their prevoius fight, Bute gassed, got banged out and got a standing 21 count. End of
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr "Bute gassed." Lol, did you ever see a guy gas worse in any sport ever? It was weird.
Thing is if you watch the fight you'll see he beat the count. You're right he should lose if the count was more than the time left in the fight because he clearly wasn't in a position to continue, but from memory it was completely a saved-by-the-bell scenario. Repeat: he DID beat the ten count - all he needed to do was stand under his own steam.
Good luck Ward fan. Smart money on Bute!
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone He stood up but Bute was out on his feet hence the ref stopped counting talked to Andrade, and started counting again from 1, if the ref had let the fight continue after only 10 seconds Bute wud have a loss on his record now, he didnt no where he was
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr I presume the video clock is right. About 3 seconds left when Bute hit the canvas. Any normal count he beats, which he did, whatever the ref was about. This argument is settled.
I am as Win as Bute will be in 2012 versus Andre Ward.
/watch?v=ARs8axyaDz0
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone 3 seconds left, waht does that matter the ref cheated simple as, you cant be saved by the bell do u actually understand that rule hence why boxers can win in the last dying seconds like andrade did, He did win get ur arse out of butes arse for 5 seconds and u will see he got KOed i.e has that been in the middle of the round Bute would of lost, and since when is a normal count 21 seconds long the ref cheated, Also 'I am as win' what kinda fucking sentence is that lol dumbass
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr Douche. Bollocks to ya, if you don't understand by now you just won't understand. Ref count: IRRELEVANT. I fucking said if it had happened earlier in the round he would have lost because he wasn't in a position to continue. Learn the fucking rules, moron.
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone Theres nothing I dont understand, Bute lost, wats there not to understand. I know the rules Im an amatuer boxer myself and a big boxing fan so i no wat i saw in the Bute fight, and theres no need for to get emotional soft lad my opinion is shared with proffesional pundits and Bute himself hence the rematch, I dont no y u keep replying with shit... its boring lad
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr No you're boring, soft lad, troll lad, predictable lad, doesn't know the rules lad, can't follow an argument lad. Blocked lad.
Yawn @ you and your pathetic fictions.
Bute > Ward. When this happens, consider it the knockout punch, bitch.
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone Haha, Blocked?! fucking pussy lol, U cant reply with a comeback so u spawn off a whole load of shite ya shitbag. I wud say ur a soft lad, soppy bollocks, but ya just an ignorrant cunt. Av that ya little bitch lol
3eethr 1 month ago
@3eethr What's the point of blocking a cunt if they still come back to annoy the fuck out of you? Piss off ya braindead wastrel
thespacialone 1 month ago
@thespacialone Well stop replying if ya that bothered shithead
3eethr 1 month ago
Drink and coke
RichCwm 1 year ago
Calzaghe is the greatest ever, even his stories are the best. I love the guy, he's my hero.
Lieven29 1 year ago
So he pretty much has his way with lacy and Manfredo and then falls asleep at there fight? Lol! I bet they love him...
evilmickey 1 year ago
hahahahahaha
VonKutlery 1 year ago
Well done joe fought some old men.
Need to come out retirement and fight Dawson the crackhead.
jollywolly55 1 year ago
Haters are gonna hate, undefeated boxing champ of the world, what have you done with your life?? FUCK OFF :)
welshdragon182 1 year ago
Your a fucking idiot. You know nothing of boxing if that is your opinion. My opinion counts cuase I know boxing. Unlike some of you who try to come on hear and say what you think. Well guess what you fuckin dip shit its not what you think its what the truth is. The truth is Joe dodged everyone for 10 years with his bullshit belt fighting like 2 - 3 times a year or less against b level opponents. He beat 2 old legends and a hell of a fighter Kessler. THATS IT. HIS ENTIRE CAREER. END
TreatedYoDumbAss 1 year ago
@TreatedYoDumbAss Calm down soft lad u may think you know boxing, but u dont, U have just joined a few Calzaghe haters and talked shit, I bet u thought Lacey was gonna KO joe, but cos Joe destroyed him and practically destroyed his confidence, u now say Lacey was shit. Also I rekon u thought Kessler was gonna KO him, He supposedly dodged B - Hop but beat him years ago and b - hop's stilll a champ lol, He beat a prime Chris Eubank to start with. Get in the ring yaself b4 u slag off world champs
3eethr 1 month ago
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JOE CALZAGHE = THE COWARD FROM WALES
JOE CALZAGHE = A DISGRACE to his OWN COUNTRY and his OWN FAMILY!!
WELCOME TO YOUR LEGACY MR CALZAGHE YOU COWARD
Cowardzaghe 1 year ago
Calzaghe made Lacy look like a little boy when they got in the ring together, same goes for Manfredo.
GAMEBOY379 2 years ago
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yes m8 could not have said it any better way.. the jones calzaghe fight shoulda been made in the nintees......... and joe voulda fort carl froch aswell instead of old hopkins and old jones
howyamean 2 years ago
joe calzaghe is amazing
b1GR33Nm0nSt3rRrRrRr 2 years ago 26
46-0 36kos has beat all the big names throws 1000 punches a match best fighter ever in his weight class
aaronracine 2 years ago
actually 32 kos
b1GR33Nm0nSt3rRrRrRr 2 years ago
the pride of wales is a fukin legend better than any forein boxer
k5101 2 years ago 3
Ladies and gentlemen, super middleweight and light heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe took the easy way out. By turning down a fight with middleweight king Kelly Pavlik in favor of a bout with a fading Roy Jones Jr., the Welshman proved that he has no desire to be considered pound-for-pound champion. Instead of facing pavlik,or dawson-, Calzaghe fired his promoter Frank Warren and began the Bring on old Roy campaign. he opted to chase a fight that wasnt good enough to be made a decade ago
primeraprim 2 years ago
are you dumb?
Calzaghe beat Hopkins, then Hopkins KILLED Pavlik. Why would you want to see Calzaghe fight Pavlik?
If he had made that fight, people like you would've said he took the easy way out fighting Pavlik. People hate Joe...no matter what he does.
jtrubilla 2 years ago 32
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old shot jones, manfredo and kessler lmfao 3 bums who have prove nothing,jeff lacy another hyped up nobody.answer me this tho.....why did joe fight peter manfredo jr after kessler n lacy ? surely he cld have foght taylor,froch,pavlik,dawson,johnson,woods etc the list goes on.if you ask me calzaghe has ducked all the big names.Calzaghe even retired to duck Carl Froch. - Calzhage actually fought the LOSER of an elimination bout...LOL only a fraud like him could get away with such a thing !!!!!!!
primeraprim 2 years ago
@primeraprim
Get away with it? You're making it sound like he had done something illegal...
Myersfanatic 2 years ago
Exactly!...Far too many people are taking two many shots of haterage on Calzage.
carbonfiberfan 2 years ago
@jtrubilla styles make fights
D36YLDJOHN 1 year ago
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agreed, but you know if he had fought Pavlik everyone would be on his back for fighting another bum.
jtrubilla 1 year ago
@jtrubilla man I think you meant to say Calzaghe KILLED Hopkins then Hopkins killed Pavlik.
destinysfetus 1 year ago
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@jtrubilla Your a fucking idiot. You know nothing of boxing if that is your opinion. My opinion counts cuase I know boxing. Unlike some of you who try to come on hear and say what you think. Well guess what you fuckin dip shit its not what you think its what the truth is. The truth is Joe dodged everyone for 10 years with his bullshit belt fighting like 2 - 3 times a year or less against b level opponents. He beat 2 old legends and a hell of a fighter Kessler. THATS IT. HIS ENTIRE CAREER. END
TreatedYoDumbAss 1 year ago
@jtrubilla its just that everyone hates an undefeated fighter that says there the best just like they hate floyd they hate joe 2
1ajwickcity 1 year ago
@jtrubilla who hates jo??? the people he defeats, and thats about it, ohhh and the sour fuckers who cant accept that he is the best
valleylad12345 1 year ago
@jtrubilla are YOU dumb? Triangle theories don't work in boxing man. Two completely different styles. Taylor beat Hopkins, didn't pavlik kill taylor?
intoccabile 1 year ago
@intoccabile
why the caps on the word you?
It does count for something when Hopkins beat Pavlik with his speed and slickness, then Calzaghe proves to be quicker and slicker than B-Hop. Triangle theories go out the wiindow when you're talking about different styles, but we're not.
jtrubilla 1 year ago
@jtrubilla The caps to emphasize you was because 'you' asked if someone else was dumb, for asking for pavlik/calzaghe as if pavlik/hopkins and hopkins/calzaghe was indication of the outcome.. but that is a triangle theory and it never works in boxing. Styles dictate fights. and WE ARE talking about different styles..Calzaghe is a volume puncher who punches at many angles. Hopkins is a lateral mover who punches in spurts, with a LOT of clinching and inside fighting.
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intoccabile 1 year ago
yes m8 could not have said it any better way.. the jones calzaghe fight shoulda been made in the nintees......... and joe voulda fort carl froch aswell instead of old hopkins and old jones
howyamean 2 years ago
Joe Calzaghe KING BOX !!!! GREECE
v1doko 2 years ago
gift decisions against Reid and Hopkins
Toughest fights against Past Prime fighters such as Hopkins and Eubank
Knocked down by bums like Mitchell and Kabary 18 title defenses against unknowns/BumsBest win against Kessler, who hasn't done shit in boxing and is already considering retirement. Calzaghe's career is pretty much a joke and he padded his record, Warren is more to blame as he protected his fighter, I mean a guy is pro since 1993 and you havent heard of him until he beats Lacy in 2006
puglist1 2 years ago
if he was such a shitty boxer how did he defend his title 18x and was undefeated???
blackstallion032 2 years ago
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slappy joe caz is one of the most disappointing things you can have in the sport of boxing when a fighter builds up a record against easy opponents, defeating them and thereby building a mystique built of so-called invincibility. Its been done in the past many times over, and theres fighters doing it now.--good riddance,bad for boxing ,coward fraud , dont come back slapper old man fighter cheat fraud!!!!!!
slappyjoecaz 2 years ago
slappy Hes just spent 25 years of his professional career in England and in the end just beat legendary old-timers,,,,, In the old days it was PRIME vs PRIME, but Calzaghe only fights "washed up" fighters! or ducking fighters in there prime-- So even though Calzaghe held the WBO super middleweight title for 10 years he fought precious few I would consider talented and worthy of a title fight. That pretty much puts him in the class of being the worst champion ever
primeraprim 2 years ago
lmao say what you want, but he was 10 years as a middlewieght champ. even Barry McGuigan said, top 5 ever! and btw he's not english!!! a welshman fighting and englishman in england is like an american fighting an englishman in england!! so if he spent 25 years fighting in england thats impresive as fuck!!
TheChimeMan 2 years ago
kesslers the best out of them achally hes prob best middleweight in the world he owns!!
fishtank245 3 years ago
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Joke Slapzaghe the biggest fraud in boxing at the moment.
Ben Dirs on BBC tried to open a tribute blog for Calzaghe retirement. Instead it got filled with criticism of Calzaghe. LOL. That idiot Calzaghe would have seen it for sure. He knows that alot of people dont fall for his bullshit
primeraprim 3 years ago
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BERNARD HOPKINS = FIGHTER OF THE YEAR 2001!!!
ROY JONES = FIGHTER OF THE YEAR
1994!!!
A COLLECTIVE GAP OF 21 YEARS!!!!!
JOE CALZAGHE = FIGHTER OF OLD MEN
JOE CALZAGHE = THE MAN FROM DEL MONTE = WAITS FOR THE "PRECISE MOMENT OF RIPENESS" HE IS TERRIFIED OF A FIGHTER IN THEIR PRIME!
SELL OUT + COWARD = JOE CALZAGHE
JOE CALZAGHE = A STEP BELOW--SVEN OTTKE, HARRY SIMON and CHRIS JOHN
primeraprim 3 years ago
hey, he's a boxer, you a fat weak keyboard warrior who wouldn't have the balls to fight a a cardboard cut out of joe. your the only coward here.
TheChimeMan 2 years ago
@primeraprim Joe was born in 72 rjj was born in 69..Roy is 3 years older doesnt sound like a huge age difference to me. hopkins beat rjj and was born in 65 whats RJJ excuse? Hopkins is 4 years older!
as an American and NOT a Calzaghe fan id say using the age thing is pretty weak.
destinysfetus 1 year ago
i can hardly understand the guy he like mumbles
swiffstep 3 years ago
im not american. i dont slag of non american fighters at all. i hate ppl like u who say so anytime someone thinks a european fighter is overrated. if anything its u who is saying every white fighter is SRR
abraham is a great fighter n i agree 100% he would kill pavlik (and kessler). i thought froch lost to pascal so im yet to be convinced. dawson didnt duck kessler, he was forced to fight tarver again. REMATCH CLAUSE! kessler turned down johnson for no good reason though
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
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Joe Calzaghe is a bum and very overrated. He ducked Glen Johnson on a few different occasions, and only fought Hopkins and Jones when they were old and on the downside of their careers. Bernard Hopkins beat him by 2 rounds in their fight. B-hop got robbed. Imagine what Jones or Hopkins would do to this overrated slapper if they were in their primes. Joe will retire instead of facing Glen Johnson, Dawson or giving a rematch to the deserved winner, B-hop. Go on and retire calslappy you suck.
Banguisoil 3 years ago
arther aberham next
Carriecw81 3 years ago
joe is king shut the fuck up he is the best out there, know one can match him. simple
2coinlove 3 years ago
The best fighter with the best stlye in England is Hatton nigel benn most exciting and then the prince
ninjanbounti 3 years ago
calzaghe is king !!
he whoops all the american that get in his way
philthepowertaylor13 3 years ago 2
joe's a legend killer
kjg83 3 years ago 2
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hattons cool but calslappy is a pussy he dodged pavlik cause he knows he would get owned RJJ is gonna massacre him
deebonig23 3 years ago
pavlik got beat by hopkins u tit and joe beat hopkins by about 4 rounds
acooo8tf 3 years ago 3
lol calzaghe comfortably outboxed hopkins, who demolished pavlik, and he destroyed jones last night.... who are you going to say hes dodging now?
IrelandRaven 3 years ago 2
so RJJ massacred him?? Hmmmm, not in the fight i saw! Well done joey boi!!
Smutch69 3 years ago
jones is completely washed up, beating him proves nothin.. i thought BHop beat joe comfortably, outboxed him. u can say joe won but say he outworked him then, dont say he outboxed him cuz he didnt for a fact
dawson is out there, beat 2 guys who sparked jones. n joe fought roy so whatever excuses hes making cant be any good. adamek who just beat bell n cunningham is better than kessler, n harding is better than lacy. so dawson has d resume to get a crack at joe. n BHop deserves a rematch too
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
bullshit,cunningham is nowhere near kesslers level. outboxed lmao im not even a calzaghe fan but you must be blind if you think bhops dirty,boring tactics amount to boxing.
kessler gave calzaghe a better fight than manfredo,lacy,hopkins, and old jones combined. instead of comparing records, watch the fights. kessler is a big, strong, talented man who could clean up the super middles in no time at all, which is what he was doing before calzaghe came along...over-rated european?dont think so..
IrelandRaven 3 years ago
i said adamek, although i think USS is better aswell. kessler is one dimensional. BHops defense n counterpunching won him d fight, joe fought dirty too. call him boring, but hes effective. made joe miss n gave him a lesson.
lacy n manfredo r bums.. jones is washed up. n BHop clearly gave joe a tougher fight, i think he won it for fuck sake.. kessler is strong, but very limited. any decent boxer would make him look foolish
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
hes fast,accurate and hits like a horse,good defence and killer offence...hardly one dimensional.
IrelandRaven 3 years ago
he is pretty fast n can punch wit d right. he has a basic but solid defense but a very limited offense.
1-2, 1,2 all day.. just like pavlik except pavlik can throw in hooks n bodyshots behind it.. just like pavlik if u take away his jab hes nothing. he cant mix up his attack n he cant counterpunch. his jab is good, but a skilled boxer can take it away. dats what joe did n then he had no answer. hes one dimensional. BHop would do him worse than pavlik
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
you must have missed where calzaghe came forward with a flurry and kessler countered with an uppercut left hook combo to the chin. his style is throwing a lot of straights sure, but dont think he cant mix it up when he wants to. beating calzaghe isnt easy, neither is hanging in there with him like kessler did.
kessler is much stronger and better than pavlik will ever be. imagine the damage kessler would do to lacy, and taylor was floored by him lmao.
IrelandRaven 3 years ago
i agree kessler is stronger than pavlik, but pavlik is a allround better fighter. both of em r overhyped though. lacy is d most overhyped fighter in recent memory, he caught taylor wit a punch n was otherwised dominated. so fucking what? ali was dropped by wepner. shit happens it means nothing. just cuz kessler landed a few non straight punches dont mean its a solid part of his game. reid n BHop both beat calzaghe, its not easy. but its impossible gettin him to sign a rematch
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
Mike McCallum was 40 years old when rjj beat him,rjj career was made up of fighting over matched opponents and ducking top contenders,hopkins performance against calzaghe was desperate and dirty he had a good first half against calzaghe then found himself outclassed and outworked for the rest of the fight,if he beats dawson,dawson was overrated all along seen it before with lacy,its funny you say hopkins beat him confortably yet you mention dawsons CONTROVERSIAL victory over glen johnson
bjvsgsp 3 years ago
BHop outclassed joe early, his age set in later in d fight but he had done more than enough to get d decision. u bring up ifghting dirty, ever thought maybe BHop wouldnt have gassed so badly iif it wasnt for d low blow. it take smore than 2-3min to shake those of
U CANT COMPARE DAWSON TO LACY. dawson beat adamek, tarver, johnson n harding! LACY NEVER BEAT NOBODY. there is no foundation to compare them. lacy was all hype. dawson EARNED recognition. he proved himself. u CAN NOT compare them EVER
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
4 rounds are a third of the fight and dont give me that nonsense bernard wasnt hit by a low blow,his performance was desperate for the most part such as feigning a low blow to try and get up on points
dawson is a better than lacy,yes there is a comparison lacy was supposed to destroy calzaghe that is a fact go back to the timeframe and lacy was supposed to be the next big thing in boxing and it wasnt until calzaghe beat him that people claimed he was overrated
bjvsgsp 3 years ago
lots of fighters were supposed to be d next big. lacy fell at d first hurdle. then he restarted against taylor n fell again. he obviously is a level beneath any top fighter
dawson already proved himself. harding, adamek, even a tarver past his prime n johnson no matter if u thought he won or not still proved he could hang wit d best. unlike lacy
he was hit low, u can see it wit your own eyes. it dont look bad, but if u ever took one yourself u would know it hurts plenty. he wasnt acting
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
yes he was acting it was blatantly clear he was acting he was getting worked over while it happened aswell draw you're own conclusion and im talking about the timeframe doesnt matter if lacy has now proved he isnt good enough the fact is he was supposed to beat calzaghe just like people claim dawson would,if calzaghe beats dawson,dawson was overrated all along and dont deny it wont happen because it would dawson is fighting tarver for a second time now anyways even though johnson wants a rematch
bjvsgsp 3 years ago
dawson has no choice but to fight tarver since there was a rematch clause in d contract of their 1st fight
so what if ppl thought lacy was gon win? it dont matter what nobody thinks it matters what u know. u cant give joe any credit for beatin a fighter who never done nothin. a fighter who fought 2 good fighters n basicly didnt win a round against eighter one
d punch hit him on d cup n knocked it outta place, dat hurts! it really dont matter though, its an illegal blow so hes entitled to 5min
YakiKadafi90 3 years ago
Yeahh Roy Jones Really Showed Calzaghe Didnt He Yank!
JayyAdamzz 3 years ago
good predictions smirk!
axmassacare 3 years ago
"apparently I did not miss anything coz it was a shit fight" HAHA you gotta love this guy haha
Roberiddle 3 years ago
I almost pissed myself when he said that lol
ooMESSIAHoo 3 years ago 2
Lol.yeah man.He is funny to see in interviews.
Hey i got a boxing show,you can check it out if ya like.
Roberiddle 3 years ago 2
LOL He was born in hammersmith, he's got the attitude problem aswell lol!
luigi12356 3 years ago