@greenskiis They were recording outside and wind blew away their music sheets, so they had to improvise until the shakers player was able to regather them and bring them back at 1:40. Juvi talked about it in a shoot interview, which put to rest the long-standing rumour that the breakdown at 1:06 was planned. Subsequently, the internet exploded.
i'm ripping this audio track from youtube to use on sd vs raw 2011 for alberto del rio's theme until someone puts a clear track up.... ya'll should do the same!
@GaBrandENT There's actually ONE person on Youtube who has put up a decent, clear-ish Del Rio theme available for download. I just downloaded it yesterday so that's how I know. I think it's the highest rated now.
@MrBlackshogun hell yeah that is ture. i never liked ray but juvi kicked so much ass every nitro and Thunder, even when he lost they were good matches.
@AlanFlawlezz82 I actually find it retarded that one of the reasons Juventud guerrera was fired from WWE was because of the 450 splash.I was reading on how that move was banned,yet i still see that one guy from Nexus doing it and I'm just like wtf?! WWE needs to bring back the cruiserweights...they cant have rey mysterio fighting big guys like kane and big show forever...Its boring.I'd rather have 2 amazing cruiserweights wrestling since i know I'll see some crazy high flying and acrobatics:)
@CodeIamx I cant figure out WWE for the life of me. Like I also thought the Crippler Crossface was supposed to be banned, but yet HHH and HBK kept using it. I guess its OK if ur married to the boss' daughter. Vince just likes wasting talent. Like he did with so many young talented wrestlers
Juventud Guerrera was one of MY FAVORITE wrestlers! Man, I miss this guy, His matches where always ones to remember and got the crowd going crazy. Too bad WWE those fucking assholes didn't give him a chance to shine!
men i've always been a Juvi fan...when i was watching WCW back in about 97 or 98 when i heard this them i would slip on my Juvi mask and begin cheering at my t.v. lol.
Guerrera wrestled in many Mexican independent promotions as a masked wrestler but he first gained American exposure in Extreme Championship Wrestling alongside fellow luchadores Rey Misterio Jr., Psicosis, Konnan and La Parka, all of whom were also wrestling for Konnan's Promo Azteca in Mexico at the time. When Konnan left for WCW, Guerrera and the rest followed.
WWE let go Psicosis due his argument with his wife if I recall and was not doing much in WWE sadly. Plus with ther enot being a cw divison it would be pointless. same for Super Crazy. Plus he's actually having a good run in AAA atm. idk what Crazy's up to.
Juice needs to return to raw or smackdown with this juicifying theme...dayum i remember those good old days in the 90's JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Juvie was da man fo sure. I never forget the match against Jericho at Superbrawl. Mask Versus Title, although the juice lost, he put up a spectacular show.
Rey is definately doing his absolute best to represent the Luchadores, but sadly, one man can't do it on his own. Not to take anything away from Rey's excellent in ring abilities, just saying it sucks seeing only ONE REAL luchador in the America 'big leagues'. Death to the WWE.
@MidKnight421 true tht! WWE use to have SOOOO many luchadores!! Not being rascist or nothing but it gets dull to see only Blacks and Whites going at it! we need some LATIN fire going on! atleast Del rio is in WWE so rey isnt alone even tho del rio is a jackass
@QuetzalDeLaCielo No... WcW had Lucadores up to Ying Yang trying to promote their brands, but the lame ass Monday night wars ruined their spotlight. WWE only picks up ex lucha libre stars who have become more americanized, instead of having the lucha libre lifestyle. Watch some AAA and CMLL matches and spot the differences.
@MidKnight421 Rey Mysterio Jr. isn't anything special dude. His only success came from WcW and WWF/E not in CMLL or AAA. WWE doesn't cater to the Lucha Libre (mexican Wrestlers, NOT meaning high flying athletes) scene. Judas Mesias, Vampiro, Damien 666 and others are where real Lucha Libre lies. Vampiro is Canadian, BUT is a FAN favorite in AAA. Other who embraced Lucah Libre, Eddie and Chavo, Super Calo, Super Crazy, Hector Garza, Juventud Guerrera and more... They did more then you think.
Rey Misterio Jr.'s real last name is Gutierrez, I believe, not Guerrera. Eddie Guerrero had a similar last name, but no, those three are not related. Juvi and Rey have known each other for over a decade, though. They got their starts in Mexico around the same time, and both were noticed (along with Psicosis and Konnan) around the same time and brought to ECW, then WCW.
The only Mexican to win the IWGP Light-Heavyweight Championship by winning the title from the legendary Jushin Thunder Liger but he had to use a bottle of Tequila to win it.
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I remember dreading this stupid song. This is so not Mexican. Theme has music derived from Spain! This is like saying Americans and Brits are the same thing.
Fully agree.A lot of whats now the Mexican culture,including things like Spanish and the Catholic religion were forced on the Mexican people.I'm glad to see more and more schools in Mexico teaching the students the Mexican languages and their pre European history.
Loved this theme song. Sounded very classic, dignified, and dynamic all at the same time. You could really get a sense of the honor of lucha libre with this music.
Yeah this is one of the few WCW themes that isn't really cheesy. Even though they stole the luchadores from ECW, still it was one of the main reasons I watched nitro.
smart fans lmfao yeah they know everything bischoff doesnt take any credit for brining in the luchadors and japanese wrestlers unlike heyman does wcw was the first to showcase the luchadors with the when worlds collide ppv and wrestlers from new japan have been coming over to the states for years stop giving heyman so much credit for god sake
the when worlds collide ppv was a year before the luchadors ever went to ecw they got more exposure off of that one ppv than they did in their few months at ecw
ive never heard him take full credit for anything ive heard him flat out admit in an interview that the nwo was inspired from the invasion angle that had been done in japan what i have heard is paul heyman acting like he was the first one to bring chris benoit and eddie guererro and dean malenko to the states when technically thats not true
I've only heard Bischoff take full cred in some interviews & on that Monday Nights Wars dvd (watched it on youtube) weather that was planned or not, I don't know
That invasion angle that was done in Japan was a rip of an American angle years before.Look up the history of randy Savage.He was behind the angle.its why i though it was so great when Savage joined the NWO years later.
I swear I heard this during a pokemon battle on tv
COJred1 3 weeks ago
@COJred1 LOL
IR305 1 week ago
this theme fits Zorro
1718venom9 1 month ago
Juventud another day said than Alberto del rio's theme is looks like his theme. anyway It would be fantastic juventud guerrera vs alberto del rio.
gonzataker 1 month ago
juice is more stereotypical mexican bring him back he is awesome !!
jamexxxxxx 2 months ago
The Juice!!!!
bigbo3488 4 months ago
Air Quasi
Thescreensaverr 5 months ago
Luv this tune...then again gotta luv juvi. Dude was a master in the ring!
anywher3utube 5 months ago
I remember playing as Juvi in WCW NWO Revenge. If you have his Spirit meter at max, when you go to the turnbuckle, he'll do a 450 splash.
OgnarPliskin 5 months ago
Quasi Juice
Thescreensaverr 6 months ago
guy was amzing
kingmula2 7 months ago
JUVY JUICE :D
strang14 7 months ago
Juvi is a great wrestler too bad his party/drug issues cost him his job both n WCW & WWE!
Pimpczar2011 7 months ago 2
@Pimpczar2011 he has drug issues? smh..damn he's one of my top underrated wrestlers all time
jayflysociety101 7 months ago
whats name of the song????
SONG NAME (Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee...) - [Porfavooooooooooooorrrrrr]
banicom1 7 months ago
@banicom1 Its called Juventud Guerrera WCW Theme
djjoe214 7 months ago
@banicom1 "Summer Nights In Spain".
SuperAdventures 6 months ago
it wanna make me dance!
Highskiller1 8 months ago
Juvi Juice
Chewbacca7304 8 months ago
this theme is tha shyt god i miss those days
74koinz 8 months ago
Juventud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HollywoodKendrick 8 months ago
SOUNDS LIKE BULLFIGHTING MUSIC
1021247365 8 months ago
Ummmm....WTF happened at 1:06???
greenskiis 9 months ago
@greenskiis They were recording outside and wind blew away their music sheets, so they had to improvise until the shakers player was able to regather them and bring them back at 1:40. Juvi talked about it in a shoot interview, which put to rest the long-standing rumour that the breakdown at 1:06 was planned. Subsequently, the internet exploded.
MobKnowledge 8 months ago
reminds me of Tuco from good bad and the ugly ha ha
britbull09 9 months ago
Nice...only 1 hater does not like The Juice!
CrimsonRaider 9 months ago 2
Sounds like a high school band warming up
KHayes666 9 months ago
download link please!
AMQ82 10 months ago
the juice must KILL BILL!!!
KingBookerT1987 11 months ago 2
this theme's music is very similar to an indian film song...
owaisinus 11 months ago
The Juice!
garymaster42 1 year ago
@MrPerfect2000Z The guys username is NoobofNoobs. He has a Mediafire download link in case youre not down with vidtomp3.com.
TheCaptain22555 1 year ago
download link please
AMQ82 1 year ago
i'm ripping this audio track from youtube to use on sd vs raw 2011 for alberto del rio's theme until someone puts a clear track up.... ya'll should do the same!
GaBrandENT 1 year ago
@GaBrandENT There's actually ONE person on Youtube who has put up a decent, clear-ish Del Rio theme available for download. I just downloaded it yesterday so that's how I know. I think it's the highest rated now.
TheCaptain22555 1 year ago
@TheCaptain22555 And that person is?
MrPerfect2000Z 1 year ago
Juventud was always better than Ray.
MrBlackshogun 1 year ago 3
@MrBlackshogun true, the thing that held juvi back was his mic work
GaBrandENT 1 year ago
@MrBlackshogun hell yeah that is ture. i never liked ray but juvi kicked so much ass every nitro and Thunder, even when he lost they were good matches.
GamingandMetal6 1 year ago
i still rememeber when juice beat mysterio for the title in good fashion
youngjocksta 1 year ago
bull fighting in mexico.
haha.
long live this theme!
thephantomplatypus 1 year ago
Juventud went crazy one night while partying with Rey and Konnan and hasnt been given any opportinites since other than WWE
AlanFlawlezz82 1 year ago
@AlanFlawlezz82 I actually find it retarded that one of the reasons Juventud guerrera was fired from WWE was because of the 450 splash.I was reading on how that move was banned,yet i still see that one guy from Nexus doing it and I'm just like wtf?! WWE needs to bring back the cruiserweights...they cant have rey mysterio fighting big guys like kane and big show forever...Its boring.I'd rather have 2 amazing cruiserweights wrestling since i know I'll see some crazy high flying and acrobatics:)
CodeIamx 1 year ago
@CodeIamx I cant figure out WWE for the life of me. Like I also thought the Crippler Crossface was supposed to be banned, but yet HHH and HBK kept using it. I guess its OK if ur married to the boss' daughter. Vince just likes wasting talent. Like he did with so many young talented wrestlers
AlanFlawlezz82 1 year ago 8
@AlanFlawlezz82 Yea but Daniel Bryan uses it
joeleffler 5 months ago
@joeleffler Technically he uses a modified version of it but the similarities are close enough
CwHart 2 months ago
Why TNA doesn't have any Mexicans?
Juvi could become there very successful, again !!!
xEric1993x 1 year ago 2
Everybody always says they hear these older WCW themes in pornos. I'd like to see what porno uses THIS theme. Ten bucks says it involves a burro.
whiteboy1815 1 year ago
Juventud is just as good as rey mysterio and better on the mic WWE and TNA are stupid to not bring this dude back Great theme
DreDaDon16 1 year ago
i think he does look like michael jackson
VivKyzer 1 year ago
juvi looks like michael jackson unmasked lol...maybe only me but lol
shakysyxx 1 year ago
reminds me of the first 3 Ninjas movie. lol
iamborat1 1 year ago
This was originally Eddie Guerrero's theme but he quickly changed it.
rocker316ify 1 year ago
makes me think of vega from street fighter, lmao...
Levi1327 1 year ago
i heard he tried to kill himself or something...does anyone know if thats true?
snakeEyes4121 1 year ago
bring back the juice
hhhylton 1 year ago
bring juv back to wwe!!!!
billysharp15 1 year ago 13
JUVI ROCKS!!!!!!
thypettingzoo 1 year ago
I want to know this song name and perfomer name.
insectsboy77 1 year ago
i love this theme,greatest high flyer ever
nymphetaminedisposed 1 year ago
I always thought this was pretty good entrance music.
sshapour 1 year ago
anotjher street fighter's vega's theme lol
redleter 1 year ago
wow Juventud Guerrera mask looks so different from wen he was in mexico wen it looks like hes dad fuerza guerrera and ecw
sindefeatist 1 year ago
WTF
reyals96 1 year ago
why is this man Guerrero like Eddie
laminskis 1 year ago
@laminskis hes not
michaeljackson726 1 year ago
@laminskis It's Guerrera, not Guerrero...
EvelTwinOfSlogmaster 1 year ago
@laminskis far from like eddie dude
nymphetaminedisposed 1 year ago
@OgnarPliskin That was Brian Kendrick's face he broke with a 450 splash...
YourEverydayGameFan 1 year ago
@YourEverydayGameFan
it wasnt Brian Kendrick's face he killed it was actually Paul London [Kendrick's tag partner :P]
mannowanno31 1 year ago
Juventud Guerrera was one of MY FAVORITE wrestlers! Man, I miss this guy, His matches where always ones to remember and got the crowd going crazy. Too bad WWE those fucking assholes didn't give him a chance to shine!
Pslpng2 2 years ago
This badass broke someone's face with a move that got banned!
Of course, I remember Juvi from his WCW days and his long-standing feud with Chris Jericho. Reading up on his WWE stuff is where I came across that.
OgnarPliskin 2 years ago
Ya-ha-ha-hi! Mariachi! Si! Estamos hablando el maldito queroso Espaniol. Yh-ha-ha-hi! Om Motha Fucka Om
BeneOpastos 2 years ago
This guy is the first wrestler I ever saw on tv, I was sold right away. Memories...
Meshugana 2 years ago
men i've always been a Juvi fan...when i was watching WCW back in about 97 or 98 when i heard this them i would slip on my Juvi mask and begin cheering at my t.v. lol.
deathedge2000 2 years ago
Guerrera wrestled in many Mexican independent promotions as a masked wrestler but he first gained American exposure in Extreme Championship Wrestling alongside fellow luchadores Rey Misterio Jr., Psicosis, Konnan and La Parka, all of whom were also wrestling for Konnan's Promo Azteca in Mexico at the time. When Konnan left for WCW, Guerrera and the rest followed.
kyo221 2 years ago
he and also other great mexican wrestlers like psychosis or super crazy they should come back and wrestle again for the wwe.they we`re awesome.
jnulpi 2 years ago
WWE let go Psicosis due his argument with his wife if I recall and was not doing much in WWE sadly. Plus with ther enot being a cw divison it would be pointless. same for Super Crazy. Plus he's actually having a good run in AAA atm. idk what Crazy's up to.
BigSky1322000 2 years ago
@jnulpi The WWE fired him
Pslpng2 2 years ago
didnt multiple mexican luchadors share this theme in wcw???
DETROIT2MILWAUKEE 2 years ago
Excuse my ignorence, but I always wanted to know, what is a luchador?
MrAbs786 2 years ago
luchador = wrestler in spanish
DETROIT2MILWAUKEE 2 years ago 3
ur probably thinking of eddie gurrerros theme which soon to be the lwo theme
hatchetman42789 2 years ago
450* Splash
stay666metal 2 years ago 3
esta theme lo kiero bajar en mp3 pero no encuentro en ke lugar lo pueda bajar alguien me ayuda por favor se lo agradeceria muxoooooo
susuki13 2 years ago
Juice needs to return to raw or smackdown with this juicifying theme...dayum i remember those good old days in the 90's JUICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
djjoe214 2 years ago 3
Bring Back The Juice Bar!
hezamachine 2 years ago 3
Juvie was da man fo sure. I never forget the match against Jericho at Superbrawl. Mask Versus Title, although the juice lost, he put up a spectacular show.
Rouckfurd 2 years ago 2
Juice !!!!! Juice !!!!! Juice !!!!! Juice !!!!!
thanhbites 2 years ago 3
juvi rules
Hasilpur1 2 years ago 2
Finally...the JUICE HAS COME BACK to de WCW!
russo256 2 years ago 4
Viva Mexico
KillerPato619 2 years ago 4
If you SMELL-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA...WHAT THE JUICE is cooking!
767r 2 years ago
stay juicy
WCW was the bomb diggity.
jsnt 2 years ago 3
The Juice Is On The Loose
greatgames145 2 years ago 3
Sounds like a streetfighter theme
filthiestfish 2 years ago 34
sounds like a circus. lol. the first part of the song is my favorite.
phipps313 2 years ago
@phipps313
a bull fight rather. hehe. luv this theme.
thephantomplatypus 2 years ago
something for el fuerte
trustobey1016 2 years ago
@filthiestfish yeah it sounds like Vegas
AlanFlawlezz82 1 year ago
@filthiestfish vega? hehee
jazman170 1 year ago
Anyone have an mp3 of this? I'm having a hell of a time finding one.
TengoJuego 2 years ago 3
i have it!
JOSEANDJP32 2 years ago
This was also Eddie Guerrero's 1st WCW theme
MichaelHermz 2 years ago
Rey is definately doing his absolute best to represent the Luchadores, but sadly, one man can't do it on his own. Not to take anything away from Rey's excellent in ring abilities, just saying it sucks seeing only ONE REAL luchador in the America 'big leagues'. Death to the WWE.
MidKnight421 2 years ago 33
well couldn't Chavo be a luchadore?
TNAWWEWRESTLER 2 years ago
@MidKnight421 Now, there are 2 with him and Alberto Del Rio xD
xEric1993x 1 year ago
@MidKnight421 as great as Rey is WWE have watered down his abilities ALOT, Rey Mysterio is so much better than what we see on WWE tv.
TheAmazingSenshi 1 year ago 2
@MidKnight421 true tht! WWE use to have SOOOO many luchadores!! Not being rascist or nothing but it gets dull to see only Blacks and Whites going at it! we need some LATIN fire going on! atleast Del rio is in WWE so rey isnt alone even tho del rio is a jackass
QuetzalDeLaCielo 1 year ago
@QuetzalDeLaCielo No... WcW had Lucadores up to Ying Yang trying to promote their brands, but the lame ass Monday night wars ruined their spotlight. WWE only picks up ex lucha libre stars who have become more americanized, instead of having the lucha libre lifestyle. Watch some AAA and CMLL matches and spot the differences.
strang14 1 year ago
@QuetzalDeLaCielo What Blacks??
TheBigWill413 1 year ago
@MidKnight421 Rey Mysterio Jr. isn't anything special dude. His only success came from WcW and WWF/E not in CMLL or AAA. WWE doesn't cater to the Lucha Libre (mexican Wrestlers, NOT meaning high flying athletes) scene. Judas Mesias, Vampiro, Damien 666 and others are where real Lucha Libre lies. Vampiro is Canadian, BUT is a FAN favorite in AAA. Other who embraced Lucah Libre, Eddie and Chavo, Super Calo, Super Crazy, Hector Garza, Juventud Guerrera and more... They did more then you think.
strang14 1 year ago
juvi juice was the shyt back in the day. damn man, what happened to wrestling??
LTEstyles 3 years ago
Thats fucked up back in the 90's there was alot of luchadores now theres only Rey Mysterio.Come Back Luchadores!
juniorjoker4life 3 years ago
If you want Luchadores go watch CMLL and AAA.
AssaultDriver 3 years ago 3
This music sounds like something played whenever freedom fighters in some Latin American country fight against tyranny.
girlgarde 3 years ago 3
hahaha
Absolutely.
This guy was fast man. I miss seeing the luchadores in the US. Rey Mysterio is doing all he can.
Blue3909 3 years ago
Yeah ur right! Rey is like the last of the dying breed but I liked Juvi better! The Juvi Driver was sick!
reignxzile 3 years ago 2
his 450 splash was ever better XP
nav19891989 2 years ago
Hehe...! XD Juvi Driver for the kill!!!
reignxzile 2 years ago
Don't forget the Juvi Elbow!
kananase 2 years ago
LOL! Can't 4get that!
reignxzile 2 years ago
hey this guy has the same last name as rey r they reated?
imboardandhungry 3 years ago
Juventud Guerrera means Youth Warrior.
cdowg187 3 years ago 3
Rey Misterio Jr.'s real last name is Gutierrez, I believe, not Guerrera. Eddie Guerrero had a similar last name, but no, those three are not related. Juvi and Rey have known each other for over a decade, though. They got their starts in Mexico around the same time, and both were noticed (along with Psicosis and Konnan) around the same time and brought to ECW, then WCW.
CaptainCrunchisma 3 years ago
juvi
susuki13 3 years ago
Finally...
The JUICE
Has come back to...
Myspace?!?!
sonofsarek 3 years ago 5
lol
Blue3909 3 years ago
the juice returns to wwe
wwe gets juiced by juvi
shadyzworld 3 years ago
juvi was my absolute favorite cruiserweight...too bad he loved the coke too
WeLikeTheMoon62 3 years ago
this theme is the shit
ace200599 3 years ago 6
i miss the juice
jcc2k8 3 years ago
"Juvi Juice...wasn't that stuff banned a long time ago?"
-Jericho
mister38 3 years ago 2
LOL, heck yeah!!! I remember their feud, awesome times. Jericho had the best comical lines, him and his one man security force Ralphus
jcc2k8 3 years ago
Bring Juvi Back to the WWE!!
PoppaDon317 3 years ago 5
The Juice!
amtraklover 3 years ago 3
were not mexicans... were mexicools
juggalo42788 3 years ago
muy buen sonido viva la raza
susuki13 3 years ago
The only Mexican to win the IWGP Light-Heavyweight Championship by winning the title from the legendary Jushin Thunder Liger but he had to use a bottle of Tequila to win it.
RKPentecost 3 years ago
1 of my favorite wrestlers
JamesC666 3 years ago
450 FTW!!
TerminalCriticism 3 years ago
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I remember dreading this stupid song. This is so not Mexican. Theme has music derived from Spain! This is like saying Americans and Brits are the same thing.
iedodger 3 years ago
Fully agree.A lot of whats now the Mexican culture,including things like Spanish and the Catholic religion were forced on the Mexican people.I'm glad to see more and more schools in Mexico teaching the students the Mexican languages and their pre European history.
BruiserDrop 3 years ago 3
i like when this song gets all jazzy.
SnowDog0 3 years ago
juventud in tna new x divsion champ
MINISTRYOFDARKN3SS 3 years ago
great memories...wcw will never die!
GuillermosPriester 3 years ago 4
It's great to still watch some WCW, God Bless youtube!!
Abe1659 3 years ago 3
I MIss Juvi
foreversouthpark 3 years ago 3
LOL...is is just me, or does Juvi look like Michael Jackson without his mask?
Bruno7734 3 years ago 6
LMAO I SAID THE SAME THING
UMGMC 3 years ago
Miss seein Juventud in action, WWE didn't apperciated him
Pslpng2 3 years ago
they really didn't appreciate him after he got busted tons of times especially with drugs.
gothicsuperstar 3 years ago
sound like rey mysterio sr would have
jalenwrestlingfan11 3 years ago
the juice mannn lol but its good but racist idk fuckkk the world laterzzzzzzzzzzzz
old skewl wrestling fanzzzzzzz
elcaliente69 3 years ago
Loved this theme song. Sounded very classic, dignified, and dynamic all at the same time. You could really get a sense of the honor of lucha libre with this music.
BaiLong45 4 years ago 3
I agree it was my favorite theme ever.
ThexplicitNV1 4 years ago
Yeah this is one of the few WCW themes that isn't really cheesy. Even though they stole the luchadores from ECW, still it was one of the main reasons I watched nitro.
cdowg187 3 years ago
no they didnt steal the luchadors from ecw the luchadors left okay they wernt forced to leave
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
Bischoff did what A LOT of promoters have done, he raided the locker room. He was smart for doing it too, 1 companies loss is another's gain.
cdowg187 3 years ago
exactly although i still could argue that wcw were the first to promote the luchadors but none the less atleast your not unreasonable
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
not to mention he still takes credit for bringing the AAA & NJPW talent to North America, when most smart fans know Heyman did that with ECW
armandroh666 3 years ago
smart fans lmfao yeah they know everything bischoff doesnt take any credit for brining in the luchadors and japanese wrestlers unlike heyman does wcw was the first to showcase the luchadors with the when worlds collide ppv and wrestlers from new japan have been coming over to the states for years stop giving heyman so much credit for god sake
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
I'm well aware of all that, but as far as the main 3 (ecw, wcw, & wwFe) Heyman did so before Bischoff
armandroh666 3 years ago
the when worlds collide ppv was a year before the luchadors ever went to ecw they got more exposure off of that one ppv than they did in their few months at ecw
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
even though that ppv was from the AAA, not WCW
armandroh666 3 years ago
presented by AAA and promoted by wcw
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
ok I'll give you that, but it was defanetly before Bischoff was ever in any kind of controll in wcw
armandroh666 3 years ago
actually bischoff took charge of wcw in 1993
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago 2
regardless he still took credit for it or treated like he was the only person to bring luchadors & NJPW talent to North America
armandroh666 3 years ago
ive never heard him take full credit for anything ive heard him flat out admit in an interview that the nwo was inspired from the invasion angle that had been done in japan what i have heard is paul heyman acting like he was the first one to bring chris benoit and eddie guererro and dean malenko to the states when technically thats not true
bringbackpridefc 3 years ago
I've only heard Bischoff take full cred in some interviews & on that Monday Nights Wars dvd (watched it on youtube) weather that was planned or not, I don't know
armandroh666 3 years ago
I think you're full of shit, armandroh.
CaptainCrunchisma 3 years ago
good for you
armandroh666 3 years ago
That invasion angle that was done in Japan was a rip of an American angle years before.Look up the history of randy Savage.He was behind the angle.its why i though it was so great when Savage joined the NWO years later.
BruiserDrop 3 y