@BigNacho Whats so funny ? Facts: With Yawgmoths Bargain you draw the cards at any time. NOT at the end of your turn like Necropotence. With Yawgmoths Bargain you do not exile your cards when you discard them like Necropotence does. YB is better. Much better.
Yawgmoths Bargain Foil is worth 25 crisp dollars. Necropotence Foil is at the bottom of the heap. Coming in at a measly 5 dollars.
@Snitzky666 1. Necropotence comes down 3 turns earlier. Three mana is a HUGE difference in any relevant format. Bargain is 3 turns slower, which is a joke in Vintage.
2. Exiling cards when you discard isn't relevant when you win the game before your cleanup step.
3. Necropotence was printed in 2 different sets and printed as a foil in 2 special edition sets. Yawgmoth's Bargain was printed in only one set, and it was only the second set that featured foils.
@Snitzky666 1. Necropotence comes down 3 turns earlier. Three mana is a HUGE difference in any relevant format. Bargain is 3 turns slower, which is a joke in Vintage.
2. Exiling cards when you discard isn't relevant when you win the game before your cleanup step.
3. Necropotence was printed in 2 different sets and printed as a foil in 2 special edition sets. Yawgmoth's Bargain was printed in only one set, and it was only the second set that featured foils.
I think the top 8 for colors is a great idea, but including cards that are restricted in vintage seems incredibly redundant...I mean, they're restricted because they're ridiculously broken. We know they're "good". I think only cards legal in legacy should be discussed, it'd be 10 times more interesting. Keep it up gentlemen!
There are certainly a plethora of ridiculous white cards. Mother of runes, enlightened tutor, austere command, reviellark, orim's chant, angels grace, land tax, academy rector, wrath of god, replenish, moat, armageddon, mageta the lion, swords to plowshares and finally balance. How is there not a top 8 white cars of all time in that list of awesome?
@elendarulianreo Sorrow's Path. A land that doesn't produce mana and only has a minor and quite rarely useful effect while punishing you and conceivably killing a lot of your creatures in order to use it.
@jairomy Wood Elemental is way worse than Sorrow's Path. Sorrow's Path at least has a very miniscule potential benefit, and at worst costs no mana to play. Just to get a Hill Giant out of Wood elemental, you need to effectively spend 7 mana and 3-for-0 yourself.
@elendarulianreo Norin the Wary is worst than wood elemental, at least if u get wood elemental out it actually does something. norin cant attack or block or anything
I know it's not a "real" card, but I would have like to hear a mention of Contract from Below. That card seems sick. Also, I feel like Yawgmoth's Will is better than Necro, but I guess I never played Necro when it was all that degenerate.
@chaosof99 I agree green has great cards but white has path, swords, land tax, elspeth, balance, stoneforge mystic, wrath of god, enlightened tutor, gideon, baneslayer angel....its the weakest but its still got enough for a top 8. Honestly, red might be the worst. All of its best cards are all burn and goblins lol. I dont really think it matters, all the colors still have a top 8 best cards regardless of whether they are as powerful as the other colors
Rancor. For white though, maybe Wrath of God, Balance, Empyrial Armor, Swords to Plowshares, Baneslayer Angel, Moat, Land Tax, Exalted Angel, Abeyance, Figure of Destiny, Astral Slide to name some.
Both green and white have really nice cards but the power level of the blue and black cards and their interactions with the decks they go in is just absurd.
@chaosof99 Eh..even white has a few good ones like Land Tax, swords/path, oblivion ring, wrath, elspeth knight-errant, squadron hawks has proven to be of some use...though that's just naming a few good white which I'm sure can exist but who knows
@chaosof99 ahhh yeah... berserk. I want to splash green in my affinity deck for that. Cranial or Master of etherium berserked? fuck, finally got a 20+ power guy that has trample. Most of the time, i can get 18/1 but no trample = shit.
I would have loved to see Cabal Therapy make the top 8... Excellent hand disruption in it's day... along side Duress at a point... with Flashback... definately an honorable mention at least.
Cannot unsee big hand duress. THANKS LSV.
FUCK YOU.
llollercoaster 1 month ago
LSV:Black has always been Blue's Partner in crime! HAHAHAHA!
ME:*FACEPALM*
MrPersonPPL 1 month ago
wurmcoil was 5 bucks....
Laihoistheman 1 month ago
1. Dark Ritual
2. Dark Ritual
3. Dark Ritual
4. Dark Ritual
5. Dark Ritual
6. Dark Ritual
7. Dark Ritual
8. Dark Ritual
JeffSims009 1 month ago
LSV is a fucking boss, I would love to go for a pint with him and just nerd out over magic
t00115577 2 months ago 3
with inistrad, top 8 humans would be kinda cool
WeEnd31 3 months ago
Ritual, entomb, exhume...always been my fav first turn combo...
anstytroll1 3 months ago
Top 8 banned cards please
Nightwing690 6 months ago
do top 8 cards with erotic pictures
vokuheila 6 months ago 5
You guys can sit and chuckle at Raging Cougar all you want.
It will still find you. And kill you.
Kryptnyt 8 months ago
Hymn to tourach? He mentioned earlier how duress was fair, but Hymn felt unfair, then he says duress is better than hymn? LOL
StoneThrowingDevil 9 months ago
Where was Nether Void ? Sinkhole?
TrollOvGrimness 9 months ago
Contract from below?
RegulusLupinus 9 months ago
Has Luis ever cast Gruesome Encore?
ChannelEmrakul 10 months ago
1. Press 7 repeatedly.
2. Look at TSG.
3. Try not to laugh.
BigNacho 10 months ago 2
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Yawgmoths Bargain is not on the list wtf ? its def not better than necropotence but STILL
MrsRandomMadeMeDoIt 10 months ago
Yawgmoths Bargain is better then Necropotence.
Snitzky666 10 months ago
@Snitzky666 lol
BigNacho 10 months ago
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Snitzky666 10 months ago
@BigNacho Whats so funny ? Facts: With Yawgmoths Bargain you draw the cards at any time. NOT at the end of your turn like Necropotence. With Yawgmoths Bargain you do not exile your cards when you discard them like Necropotence does. YB is better. Much better.
Yawgmoths Bargain Foil is worth 25 crisp dollars. Necropotence Foil is at the bottom of the heap. Coming in at a measly 5 dollars.
Snitzky666 10 months ago
@Snitzky666 1. Necropotence comes down 3 turns earlier. Three mana is a HUGE difference in any relevant format. Bargain is 3 turns slower, which is a joke in Vintage.
2. Exiling cards when you discard isn't relevant when you win the game before your cleanup step.
3. Necropotence was printed in 2 different sets and printed as a foil in 2 special edition sets. Yawgmoth's Bargain was printed in only one set, and it was only the second set that featured foils.
BigNacho 10 months ago
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@Snitzky666 1. Necropotence comes down 3 turns earlier. Three mana is a HUGE difference in any relevant format. Bargain is 3 turns slower, which is a joke in Vintage.
2. Exiling cards when you discard isn't relevant when you win the game before your cleanup step.
3. Necropotence was printed in 2 different sets and printed as a foil in 2 special edition sets. Yawgmoth's Bargain was printed in only one set, and it was only the second set that featured foils.
BigNacho 10 months ago
Colorless FTW!!
greenmarcosu 10 months ago
Contract from Below? Best magic card ever?
danielwuso 10 months ago 2
Hymn to Tourach should have been on the list because it's so unfair.
IcedNeonFlames 10 months ago
I think the top 8 for colors is a great idea, but including cards that are restricted in vintage seems incredibly redundant...I mean, they're restricted because they're ridiculously broken. We know they're "good". I think only cards legal in legacy should be discussed, it'd be 10 times more interesting. Keep it up gentlemen!
dgodfrey17 10 months ago
HAHAHHAHAHA TSG and LSV are the shit awsome vids
MrMadden613 10 months ago
Top 8 Decks of all time.
vegetajenovax 10 months ago 2
neerds
FullMetalFan4life 10 months ago
@FullMetalFan4life Trooll
vegetajenovax 10 months ago
i see humphrey traded his 4 plunge into darkness for a raging cougar
JeFFWaLKA 10 months ago 2
Please do Top 8 sets!
JoelMonteiro 10 months ago 2
@yahoonoahgmail really? ur gonna main deck cabal therapy over duress or thoughtseize? bad deck building if u do
jaytf310 10 months ago
I love the list, although I've definitely won more games off the back of Hymn to Tourach than Duress!
MachineAngel77 10 months ago
what about...... CONTRACT FROM BEEELOWWWW, MEHMEHMEH
iLITTER 10 months ago
id like to see top 8 multicolerd or gfold cards i think it would be BA
96skeens 10 months ago
top 8 gold cards!!!
Rob1Ou7 10 months ago 32
Top 8 artifacts would be sweet
bakura1510 10 months ago 2
How do you leave Demonic Consultation off the list AND not even an honourable mention. It's better than Vampiric Tutor by a mile.
MichaelrDolan 10 months ago
Back in the late 90s I had a deck that had 5 out of the top 8 on this list in the same deck.. .lol
hypn0t1c 10 months ago
legendary cards
keichishoshuko 10 months ago
Best 2 drop ever? . . .What about goyf
NeuclearRabbit 10 months ago
@NeuclearRabbit a 2 drop that gives u massive card advantage vs a big cheap creature?
andrew7913 10 months ago
@NeuclearRabbit Goyf doesn't draw cards, and if you want to get into more techy stuff, Dark Confidant can hand you more cards to use and fuel Goyf.
Slagomancer 10 months ago
NECROPOTENCE FTW!
dontwalkdontrun 10 months ago
Top 8 six mana cost or more
thehmanlives 10 months ago
White has angels and the best removal spells of all time? (wrath of god and swords to plowshares?)
sethhhumphrey 10 months ago
How isn't Hymn to Tourach and Mind Twist on the list???
jairomy 10 months ago
There are certainly a plethora of ridiculous white cards. Mother of runes, enlightened tutor, austere command, reviellark, orim's chant, angels grace, land tax, academy rector, wrath of god, replenish, moat, armageddon, mageta the lion, swords to plowshares and finally balance. How is there not a top 8 white cars of all time in that list of awesome?
MasterScopesvids 10 months ago
Top8 Hybrid/Gold Cards
ThePortableOps 10 months ago
top 8 1mana creatures
Badass087 10 months ago
I'd like to see the top 8 Artwork on cards. Of course it's opinion but there are some really good looking cards out there.
Rowsol84 10 months ago
11:37 lol
Timmy12688 10 months ago
top 8 most disruptive cards (i.e. advantage gaining cards)
e.g. man o' war; hypnotic spectre; counterspell etc.
purklefluff 10 months ago
Top 8 Green, Top 8 3 color, Top 8 golem
Xiadilian 10 months ago
Let Humphrey do the top 8 green cards. Just have LSV animate him with his magic skillz.
Johnb88x 10 months ago
Hymn to torach, Mind Twist and Sink Hole should of made top 8.
Wallyworld30 10 months ago
Top 8 cards Humphrey has held.
mestiarcanus 10 months ago 30
bitterblossom no.9
elementalkirby 10 months ago
Yawgmoth's Bargain
zielle 10 months ago
Top 8 4-drops?
mrtumorous 10 months ago
why do i feel like luis was born playing magic at a pro level?
jafoniceld 10 months ago
Do the top 8 Pro Tour top 8's
Ok, maybe not...
reddyneddy 10 months ago
top 8 multicoloured cards.
magictv> the magic show
zarakisan11 10 months ago
I think the top 8 hybrid allied (GW, WU, UB, BR, RG), hybrid enemy (RW, WB, BG, GU, UR) would be cool, either that or best gold for 2, 3, 4, 5 colors
bobmonkey420 10 months ago
do best naya coloured cards
bronzong91 10 months ago
top 8 worst RARES ?
best legends?
Zappzarappzap 10 months ago
Demonic Consultation didn't make this list? Hrrmmm...
ChemEng1 10 months ago
Best Gold.
FreeKill101101 10 months ago 2
top 8 flavor texts
laguuni 10 months ago 2
top 8 combos (2 or more cards)
laguuni 10 months ago
Best gold cards
cataphracts123 10 months ago
The worst card ever printed is Wood Elemental and it's not even remotely close.
elendarulianreo 10 months ago
@elendarulianreo Sorrow's Path. A land that doesn't produce mana and only has a minor and quite rarely useful effect while punishing you and conceivably killing a lot of your creatures in order to use it.
chaosof99 10 months ago
@elendarulianreo you're wrong. the worst card ever printed was chimney imp.
victorgalura 10 months ago
@elendarulianreo You have never heard of Sorrow`s Path have you????
jairomy 10 months ago
@jairomy Wood Elemental is way worse than Sorrow's Path. Sorrow's Path at least has a very miniscule potential benefit, and at worst costs no mana to play. Just to get a Hill Giant out of Wood elemental, you need to effectively spend 7 mana and 3-for-0 yourself.
elendarulianreo 10 months ago
@elendarulianreo Norin the Wary is worst than wood elemental, at least if u get wood elemental out it actually does something. norin cant attack or block or anything
jwmints 10 months ago
@jwmints Norin the Wary can combo with cards, that's the difference.
S3bz3r0 10 months ago
Top 8 Commander Generals. :)
dragoon0248 10 months ago
Top 8 Multicolored Cards
macelol 10 months ago 4
Best multicolor cards
ksviro 10 months ago
No honorable mention for Contract from Below? How unhonorable.
BrandonCerelius 10 months ago
@BrandonCerelius Its my favorite card even banned and a ante card lol my favorite art and card!
barneylovesbeagle 10 months ago
No damnation?
MnE4life 10 months ago
Where is contract from below? You guys arent good at lists apparently.
jwalterwetherman 10 months ago
Hypergenesis and Fauna Shaman are far from ridiculous, man.
ElgartheWise 10 months ago
I know it's not a "real" card, but I would have like to hear a mention of Contract from Below. That card seems sick. Also, I feel like Yawgmoth's Will is better than Necro, but I guess I never played Necro when it was all that degenerate.
Alfrebaut 10 months ago
top 8 RED next!
ltcampb31 10 months ago
Good top 8! I'd actually be stoked for TSG to talk more about his cube, channel fireball should get some cube content going!
RedHorseRainbows 10 months ago
@topituulensuu one with nothing
nuff said
jwmints 10 months ago
@topituulensuu Arcum's Sleigh is a good contender, but it's just a little bit better because of Shrapnel Blast :)
Drecon84 10 months ago
I really want to know what happened to prompt the raging cougar being there haha
NebulousIdeals 10 months ago
Top 8 gold cards!
thewanderingrogue 10 months ago
NO LOVE FOR CHIMNEY IMP?!?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
CoopDaddy91 10 months ago
top 8 jace abilities
auhosj877 10 months ago 2
I'd like to hear more about the incident(s?) that inspired the Raging Cougar joke.
onecupmove 10 months ago
you guys actually changed your cloths... bravo for reinforcing the MTG NERD DONT SHOWER stereotype... o wait...
Dreamer01 10 months ago
@Dreamer01 What the fuck are you talking about?
GestapoAnon 10 months ago
best multicoloured cards?
anab0lic 10 months ago
top 8 artifacts
BIGTM22 10 months ago 2
red
AndydeHacker 10 months ago
top 8 gold
MyLittlePwnys 10 months ago 2
Raging Cougar ^_^ classy
HarlequinCasts 10 months ago
no bitterblossom? best card in standard for a while...was pretty good in extended...
EtherStar555 10 months ago
Demonic Consultation?
loganINTJ 10 months ago
Top 8 dinosaurs. Fund it.
Mystic1011 10 months ago
You missed Contract from Below! draw 7 for one black!
tbshawk 10 months ago
top 8 generals
pleravens 10 months ago
I don't know what the aversion to green cards is. There's been a big chunk of ridiculous green cards.
Channel, Primeval Titan, Hypergenesis, Aluren, Argothian Enchantress, Survival of the Fittest, Food Chain, Eternal Witness, Regrowth, Birds of Paradise, Exploration, Fauna Shaman, Tarmogoyf, Fastbond, Hermit Druid, Tooth and Nail, Berserk, Plow Under
to name a few and I'm sure I overlooked something obvious.
White's the real offender in terms of lack of power level.
chaosof99 10 months ago 36
@chaosof99 All of those are complete shit when compared to Necropotence or Ancestral Recall.
BigNacho 10 months ago
@BigNacho Right, because cards that aren't as good as the best cards ever printed simply aren't good at all...
chaosof99 10 months ago
@chaosof99 Not necessarily. It's just that this fact is the reason why pros eschew green and play colors with more powerful cards.
BigNacho 10 months ago
@chaosof99 I agree green has great cards but white has path, swords, land tax, elspeth, balance, stoneforge mystic, wrath of god, enlightened tutor, gideon, baneslayer angel....its the weakest but its still got enough for a top 8. Honestly, red might be the worst. All of its best cards are all burn and goblins lol. I dont really think it matters, all the colors still have a top 8 best cards regardless of whether they are as powerful as the other colors
auhosj877 10 months ago
@chaosof99 exalted angel, decree of justice, swords to plowshare, lin sivvi, wrath of god, balance, just off the top of my head.
but ya i think they are saying the top green and white cards are much much weaker than the top blue and black cards
jwmints 10 months ago
@jwmints I'm surprised land tax wasn't on the top of your head :P
ElgartheWise 10 months ago
@ElgartheWise Actually it popped into my head right after i posted, but was too lazy to edit.
im surprised oath of druids isnt in that guys green list
jwmints 10 months ago
@chaosof99 So few of those are nuts like blue.
Channel, Aluren, Survivzl, Goyf, Fastbond, Tooth of Nail are the genuinely good ones. (Also Defence of the Heart).
FreeKill101101 10 months ago
@chaosof99
Rancor. For white though, maybe Wrath of God, Balance, Empyrial Armor, Swords to Plowshares, Baneslayer Angel, Moat, Land Tax, Exalted Angel, Abeyance, Figure of Destiny, Astral Slide to name some.
Both green and white have really nice cards but the power level of the blue and black cards and their interactions with the decks they go in is just absurd.
weihoozie 10 months ago
@chaosof99 Eh..even white has a few good ones like Land Tax, swords/path, oblivion ring, wrath, elspeth knight-errant, squadron hawks has proven to be of some use...though that's just naming a few good white which I'm sure can exist but who knows
bobmonkey420 10 months ago
@chaosof99 Genesis... Eureka... Aluren... Recycle yeah I agree with you... Green has some ridiculously OP cards.
Zuul030 10 months ago
@chaosof99 None of them are on the same level as Force of Will or Ancestral Recall or Necropotence.
Nabby111 10 months ago
@chaosof99
Don't forget elves in general and regal force. I'm sure LSV can educate us all about them.
MTGNoobma 10 months ago
@chaosof99 ahhh yeah... berserk. I want to splash green in my affinity deck for that. Cranial or Master of etherium berserked? fuck, finally got a 20+ power guy that has trample. Most of the time, i can get 18/1 but no trample = shit.
Lazris59 10 months ago
I didn't see the Gruesome Encore coming. I feel so stupid.
Wedgehead123 10 months ago
Top 8 best flavor texts.
Eljey54 10 months ago 2
Top 8 Limited Cards
Really stretch your memories
MrMaximAllen 10 months ago
Raging Cougar LOL
Fragamemnon 10 months ago
Top 8 Worst cards
ThePacificCrossing 10 months ago 71
@ThePacificCrossing Top 8 Worst Cards (That People Still Played)?
mrtumorous 10 months ago
@ThePacificCrossing
Top 8 worst cards, of all time.
Just agreeing with you D:
themanwiththepan 10 months ago
@ThePacificCrossing Oh, yes please! Top 8 worst would be pretty good. With No1 being the absolute worst card ever! Path of Sorrow anyone? Moonlace?
Pheenixz 10 months ago
yeah best walls please
JuJuHouse24 10 months ago 2
I want 9-16 Blue cards!
Syreal1234567890 10 months ago
Yawgmoth's Bargain?
kahlua20035 10 months ago
I'm kinda surprised Reanimate didn't even get an honorable mention. Cheating on mana like nobody's business.
chaosof99 10 months ago
Bitterblossom?
kahlua20035 10 months ago
Gruesome Encore, bahahhaha.
FBWalshyFTW 10 months ago
I would have loved to see Cabal Therapy make the top 8... Excellent hand disruption in it's day... along side Duress at a point... with Flashback... definately an honorable mention at least.
jlong5795 10 months ago
Just a suggestion for next week's Top 8, maybe you guys could do Top 8 Multicoloured Cards? Thanks!
LeviHuddleson 10 months ago
I'm 1 second in and my guess is Yawgmoth's Will. If not that, then Necropotence for sure.
BigNacho 10 months ago
Best walls plz
JManJoe 10 months ago
@JManJoe no
billysuperninja 10 months ago
where's your canuck jersey. jeez
winglessfool 10 months ago
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HarlequinCasts 10 months ago