I am not a grand master but i didn't something similar to that, it was my first national tournament and i panicked knowing i was playing a far superior opponent.
I think the grandmaster saw that after Rxe2, Bxh4 He can play his king to e3. cause maybe he thaught that after Bxh4 he had to go to g2, and after that Rxe2, and black would have a extra bischop.
I'm pretty sure I know what happened. The GM thought - "crap after Rxe2 then Bxh4+ and I have to go to g2 with my king after which Rxe2+" , completely missing that after Bxh4+ his king can go to e3 because the rook on e2 is his not blacks.
How could you not instantly see that white takes with the rook and wins? I think it is the only legal move at that point. I didn't see the bishop check instantly, but he might as well wait until he actually is losing to concede even if he did see it.
If white resign it is really stupid becouse in position in 1:58 white rook take black rook on e2 winning a piece if black take rook on e2 king take a rook and white has one rook : It looks like : Rxe2, Rxe2, Kxe2
I didn't notice Ke3! at first glance either. This kind of thing is not completely atypical in chess, even at higher levels. Often when our opponent plays a sequence of moves that we didn't predict ahead of time, we narrow our overall board awareness. In this case I'll bet that white thought he was being outmaneuvered and in his tunnel vision he didn't notice Ke3, instead only thinking that he couldn't take the rook on e1 anymore b/c of Bxh4+. It happens.
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD And you also have to note that Ke3 in was especially hard to see cause the King just got chased of that field by black before the exchange sacrafice.
i see his mistake. he shouldn't have resigned. he could've taken the rook and after the other rook came, he could take with king. that leaves a bunch of pawns and a rook vs bishop. rook is stronger.
@Knightgames31 But the difference is that you are not a Grand Master , or am I wrong ;) is simply a mistake, big mistake, because anyone with knowledge of chess had to be able to see that .
@ItzoSpain the position, at the very best, could be drawable IF black would have blundered. And GM's rarely blunder. i don't really see how could this be a winning position for white, but i could be missing something... Cheers!
White could have won simply with 58.Qg8+ Ke7 (Bf7 59.Qd8 and mate next move) 59.Qxg6 and now both Rxd4 and Rxg4 fail to 60.Qg7+ Ke8 61.Kd6 and mate next move. But he saw something even quicker: 58.Kd8 and indeed, Black resigned, not seeing anything against Qe7 mate—or that Rxg4 would give him a winning position. The logic is that with his last move, White didn't only threaten Qe7 mate, but also interfered with his Queen's access to c8, which he needed against Rxg4. Black also hadn't noticed this
woooh..he missed Ke3.....would have been in a better position with a piece advantage....time pressure maybe....too much thinking of advance moves can make you forget the most important move in the current situation...your next move....anyways..peace yah all!
yeah you're right, didn't see that. I was too focused on how to protect the rook and check the king at the same time, but i'm curious....was i referring to post knight take. Because if ya think about it, bishop check before the knight take and i'm kinda right...lets see bishop checks on h4, knight blocks, and it's a pretty even game.
Hm, seems like white did same mistake as I did :-), overlooked that after Rxe2 black rook doesn't attack e3 anymore. You're right, possition is lost for black. Maybe white was in time pressure?
Certainly that the white have a winning position , you have razon - the continuation is Rxe2 > Bxh4 , but Kg2 (what a madness) ??? The correct move is Ke3 and the white win with facility !
Is it black who conceded after his last move? Or do you think the possition is won for white? Rxe2 is followed by Bxh4, which goes to Kg2, Rxe2 which is enough for white to resign.
No, you're misunderstanding the situation. From the last position, it's white to move. White moves Rxe2, then martas said Bxh4, which then the king could simply move to e3.
I am not a grand master but i didn't something similar to that, it was my first national tournament and i panicked knowing i was playing a far superior opponent.
Jmaculata 1 week ago
Correct play for black was first Bxh4+, Kg2, then Rxe2 winning.
Maybe white thought they were lost anyway after the game continuation Rxe2, Rxe2, Bxh4+, but then the king can escape to e3.
diegovski 2 weeks ago
rook takes rook, rook takes rook, king takes rook, he's back in the game.
Sucks for white.
degen83 1 month ago
@degen83
after the white rock takes the black rock, what about black bishop takes the pawn on h4? :)
azoz20066 3 weeks ago
I think the grandmaster saw that after Rxe2, Bxh4 He can play his king to e3. cause maybe he thaught that after Bxh4 he had to go to g2, and after that Rxe2, and black would have a extra bischop.
DaniloBolleman 1 month ago
Gosh from a Grandmaster.. that's a huge mistake.
Cationification 1 month ago
lol.... who was the grandmaster? This is just too obviously a won position from white... Maybe the game was a blitz?
MagicianPugh 1 month ago
?ay otro video que continu este juego???
Quierame407 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure I know what happened. The GM thought - "crap after Rxe2 then Bxh4+ and I have to go to g2 with my king after which Rxe2+" , completely missing that after Bxh4+ his king can go to e3 because the rook on e2 is his not blacks.
teoeo 3 months ago
How could you not instantly see that white takes with the rook and wins? I think it is the only legal move at that point. I didn't see the bishop check instantly, but he might as well wait until he actually is losing to concede even if he did see it.
Grandmasters resign way too early
jamincortez 5 months ago
Then you must be triply pitiful to waste time to comment on my comment on you watching chess games on youtube.
gredow1979 5 months ago
So fake. A GM would never resign in a won position. It has never happened in the history of the universe. Check your history books folks.
gredow1979 5 months ago
wow is that a gm mistake? even people who know how to play chess can spotted that white have the winning position. Face palm.
vinht11 5 months ago
mabey he didn't had enough time left :)
sirdondaniel 5 months ago
omg that sux !
nikjey 5 months ago
If white resign it is really stupid becouse in position in 1:58 white rook take black rook on e2 winning a piece if black take rook on e2 king take a rook and white has one rook : It looks like : Rxe2, Rxe2, Kxe2
sfhdiosha 5 months ago
The point is the GM missed Ke3...... with out that square to go to the game is lost.
TamaNewb 6 months ago
it is a think error .... ! the openent can play the last move agressive so that the white player think ---> oh nooo i have lost ^^
101casimir 6 months ago
Is there something I am not seeing? Rxe2, if bishop checks king takes the other rook at e1!!! Why is everyone saying Ke3?
stephens64 6 months ago
@stephens64 the rook on e1 is protected by the bishop genius
Fupper16 6 months ago
@Fupper16 Yes I read wrong and thought he was checking at d4, I tried to delete my comment but it was too late.
stephens64 6 months ago
@stephens64 because of the bishop..
slkysmoothpawn 6 months ago
@stephens64 There are many things you are not seeing, such as the life that is passing you by while you watch chess games on youtube
gredow1979 5 months ago
@gredow1979 Then you must be doubly pitiful to waste time to comment on me watching chess games on YouTube.
stephens64 5 months ago
it's a draw :1) Kf2 , Bxh4+ ; 2) Ng3 , and Kf7 ,( maintaining the pin or exchange if king moves) this is a software analysis
gal23ocsi1 7 months ago
não sou um ganmaster, mas não vejo posição de vantagem para as brancas, o bispo poderia dar cheque ao rei em h4 protegendo a torre.
a continuação do jogo seria longa com 2 torres contra um bispo e uma torre. obviamente, com o tempo já estourado não haveria porque continuar.
MrCarlosband 7 months ago
ouch. 5 moves for white and check mate. :p
AixRush 7 months ago
@AixRush oops nevermind. didn't see one move
AixRush 7 months ago
mb he resigned because of time
PSneakysound 7 months ago
I didn't notice Ke3! at first glance either. This kind of thing is not completely atypical in chess, even at higher levels. Often when our opponent plays a sequence of moves that we didn't predict ahead of time, we narrow our overall board awareness. In this case I'll bet that white thought he was being outmaneuvered and in his tunnel vision he didn't notice Ke3, instead only thinking that he couldn't take the rook on e1 anymore b/c of Bxh4+. It happens.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 7 months ago
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD And you also have to note that Ke3 in was especially hard to see cause the King just got chased of that field by black before the exchange sacrafice.
serrie85 7 months ago
H4 Bishop
amedliumit 8 months ago
Bishop h3 , thats why...
amedliumit 8 months ago
Eso es lo que pasa cuando tienes demasiado respeto por el rival. Si hubiera pensado un poco frio se habría dado cuenta que Ke3 ganaba facilmente.
crisis87 8 months ago
Rxe2,Bxh4check ,Kg2 giving white a material imbalance
Leeanmarjon 8 months ago
Moral of the story is?
Never give up til you are checkmated.
12InchesUnBuffed 9 months ago
The GM commited suicide after that match.
xFerris 9 months ago
So why doesn't he take the rook?
RsGhost1 9 months ago
i see his mistake. he shouldn't have resigned. he could've taken the rook and after the other rook came, he could take with king. that leaves a bunch of pawns and a rook vs bishop. rook is stronger.
MRr3n3gade 9 months ago
it had something to do with time trouble.the ending is an easy win for white
patrickkb100 9 months ago
I'm not quite a titled player (ELO = 2200ish), and I can clearly see that its 1-0... just in a matter of seconds.
The GM must have been terribly low on time.
WeinerschnitzeI 10 months ago
@WeinerschnitzeI Hey, Mister Master, read the full comment by the person who uploaded the video, then take back your "terribly low on time" comment.
rtydhg9q 9 months ago
I didn't really see that white had the winning position in the resigning position. The grandmaster probably saw it the way i do.
Knightgames31 11 months ago
@Knightgames31 But the difference is that you are not a Grand Master , or am I wrong ;) is simply a mistake, big mistake, because anyone with knowledge of chess had to be able to see that .
ItzoSpain 11 months ago 12
@ItzoSpain Well yeah that's true too. I just explained what i saw.
Knightgames31 11 months ago
@ItzoSpain why did he resign?? do you know?? how come u dont make videos with commentary??
IBOUGHTYAMOM 9 months ago
@ItzoSpain the position, at the very best, could be drawable IF black would have blundered. And GM's rarely blunder. i don't really see how could this be a winning position for white, but i could be missing something... Cheers!
warkenzzo 8 months ago
@Knightgames31 Did you realized it's white to move?
TheWayTruthLight1 8 months ago
There's no way white would resign here.. I'm guessing white ran out of time.
Even an amateur like me can see the advantage on whites behalf.
ihtel 11 months ago
I saw it the same way as the GM. I'm not sure why I couldn't see Ke3.
My chess has been terrible lately anyway.
SBRslacker00 1 year ago
white resigned?
stRunF11 1 year ago
CASH MONEY
avidan39 1 year ago
chess is racist black vs white . . and white goes first
guzzer777 1 year ago
@guzzer777 LOL
flaregun88 1 year ago
@guzzer777 emo kid.
alinusD 1 year ago
@guzzer777 and white is the attacker and black defender
danoid123 1 year ago
@guzzer777 Chess can also be played with green vs purple, certainly that isn't racist
vertaz47 1 year ago
Hm I didn't notice Ke3 either.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
White could have won simply with 58.Qg8+ Ke7 (Bf7 59.Qd8 and mate next move) 59.Qxg6 and now both Rxd4 and Rxg4 fail to 60.Qg7+ Ke8 61.Kd6 and mate next move. But he saw something even quicker: 58.Kd8 and indeed, Black resigned, not seeing anything against Qe7 mate—or that Rxg4 would give him a winning position. The logic is that with his last move, White didn't only threaten Qe7 mate, but also interfered with his Queen's access to c8, which he needed against Rxg4. Black also hadn't noticed this
chicoriante 1 year ago
probably he thought Rxe2 Bxh4+ kg2 Rxe2
then it wud've been a rook , bishop king vs rook and king...
but this wud've prevented it...
Rxe2 Bxh4+ Ke3!! and thn black is history...
abhinayan27 1 year ago
woooh..he missed Ke3.....would have been in a better position with a piece advantage....time pressure maybe....too much thinking of advance moves can make you forget the most important move in the current situation...your next move....anyways..peace yah all!
PrinceArt77 1 year ago
@PrinceArt77 ooh ive seen this too many times :(. on a lighter note :D
verified2 1 year ago
in the final it's rook vs bishop, if anyone thinks it's an easy position they're wrong.
shadowdancerRFW 1 year ago
uhm... why is ke3 marked as very good?
hallotata 1 year ago
@hallotata cause it is the only move to win. It is easily missed, cause the king just came from that square being checked.
serrie85 1 year ago
@serrie85 oh ok thats interesting
hallotata 1 year ago
probably time pressure
crackerjack113 2 years ago
"Chess is ruthless: you've got to be prepared to kill people." -Nigel Short
titodelibero 2 years ago 22
@titodelibero i say the same thing in real life! what a coincidence!
rebelsouljaz 1 year ago
@titodelibero no you don't
dlaryous 10 months ago
White wins ! The following is the correct continuation :
Rxe2 Bxh4+ , Ke3 ! Rc1? , Rd7 and white have a mutch better position and wins without complications ...
ItzoSpain 3 years ago 8
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black wins! rook c2, to e2 for the exchange, bishop f6, to h4 check!, king moves anywhere rook takes, and now it's rook bishop vs. rook black wins!
solidisliquid 3 years ago
No, you're confused. After BXh4, Ke3 and white wins.
ThrasybulusBrig 2 years ago 5
yeah you're right, didn't see that. I was too focused on how to protect the rook and check the king at the same time, but i'm curious....was i referring to post knight take. Because if ya think about it, bishop check before the knight take and i'm kinda right...lets see bishop checks on h4, knight blocks, and it's a pretty even game.
solidisliquid 2 years ago
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1.Rxe2 Bxh4
and black wins
cremnik 3 years ago
nope
joyfulvulture 3 years ago 3
Rxe2 was not good move. Best was Bxh4+!
dimitriosg 3 years ago
Man this is really bad. I can't believe a GM would do something like that. Not as bad as Kramnic against deep fritz though.
DigitalShaolin 3 years ago
Hm, seems like white did same mistake as I did :-), overlooked that after Rxe2 black rook doesn't attack e3 anymore. You're right, possition is lost for black. Maybe white was in time pressure?
martas223 3 years ago
Certainly that the white have a winning position , you have razon - the continuation is Rxe2 > Bxh4 , but Kg2 (what a madness) ??? The correct move is Ke3 and the white win with facility !
ItzoSpain 3 years ago 4
Is it black who conceded after his last move? Or do you think the possition is won for white? Rxe2 is followed by Bxh4, which goes to Kg2, Rxe2 which is enough for white to resign.
martas223 3 years ago
King to e3... Not g2. ;-)
Dizeazed 3 years ago
No.. Rxe2
gunnsicool 3 years ago
No, you're misunderstanding the situation. From the last position, it's white to move. White moves Rxe2, then martas said Bxh4, which then the king could simply move to e3.
Dizeazed 3 years ago 2
Yes, now I see, it seems that I didn't read martas' comment thoroughly enough. Sorry 'bout the misunderstanding ;D
gunnsicool 3 years ago