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  • I am really happy with the four transformers prime figures i have. (wheeljack, cliffjumper, bumblebee and starscream).

  • Its better in person and it is definetly awsome!

  • I think this guy is starting to grow on me, still FE is better

  • omfg, i cannot believe there is not a single Autobot logo on this guy... D: WHY HASBRO????

  • Great review bro and thumps up

    

  • Man the first edition looks rely cool the other one looks great as well but man the first editions are a little better looking. But still this new one looks rely bad ass, and looks great on his al mode, and the window on the new one looks awesome as well. And the transformation look pretty entertaining as well a lot of panel’s love that on a transformer is just brings more joy to the figure. Hell yeah this guy looks amazing on robot mode, well hope I see this guy on the stores.

  • Got almost all first edition figures, but have to pick up about twenty vehicons before I can call it complete.

  • too bad he died off

  • Hasbro:

    Movie 1: Paint Apps galore!

    Movie 2: Less paint apps but still good.

    Movie 3: Paint Apps? WTF are those?!

    Prime: YAY PAINT APPS GALORE AGAIN!

  • @KnuxMaster

    Lol lets hope hasbro will stay on paint apps galore!

  • @scoobsterinc theyre not. just look at the pitiful Powerizer Optimus Prime. the whole front chest is unpainted except for the front "bumper kibble"

  • @KnuxMaster

    I know that but thats why I bought the voyager as it looks better :3

  • @scoobsterinc The Powerizer IS the Prime voyager. its the Voyager Prime for the RID Prime toyline

  • the thing that made me rage at RID was the proportions, not the paint apps (though those transparent windows do kind of suck) He has gorilla arms, and I'm really put off by all the kibble hanging off his legs and back

  • Got to say i love him. Im not so hot on the friction pegs that hold the arms together but they aren't super loose. Plus i just LOVE when vehicle panels fold up to create the arms. I dunno why, i just get a kick out of it whenever a figure transforms that way.

  • I would go with the one that looks better and I mean the first edition one. It looks better, even though the lights aren't as big as the show version. But I like it better than the the one with the false chest piece. Not a big fan of the fake chest pieces. Acception for Optimus Prime, though.

  • do u know if rid line will have a new starscream or bulkhead cause i missed out on the fe ones

  • @TheOptimus98 Yea they will have a new SS and Bulkhead... The New SS looks okay, but the new bulkhead isnt looking so hot :(

  • @kookookajew1892 Fully agreed on the new Bulkhead. The First Edition version was an example of sheer toy engineering genius, while the new one... I'm just... not a fan of it. The wrecking ball/Powerizer gimmic drives me nuts.

  • I must admit, i love Prime's re-imagining of Cliffjumper. I think i still prefer the First Edition, especially its tinted windows, but this one does have its advantages like those nice paint apps.

  • @UltimateTomato Agreed. Along with the more accurate chest and feet. :)

  • I have the FE and I love it I will be getting the RID version to only because I like have all the figures I don't care for it that much as I don't care for the RID prime the FE is way better

  • From what I understand, Hasbro will try to release the figures from the "First Edition" wave later on under the "Robots in Disguise" banner.

  • Wheres the zombie cliff jumper i thought he was part of the first editon

  • On the topic of scale with Arcee and Bee, I'll just leave this here...

    tfwiki(dot)net/wiki/Image:Pred­atory-ArceeBeeCliff.jpg

    Now, as for the figure. Personally, I'll take a little size discrepancy with the CG models if it means less cheating with the parts. But I can see why you're defending the RID version, the initial fandom reaction was overwhelmingly negative, and probably unfairly so. This figure has its strong points, so thank you for the fair analysis. :)

  • 6:02 I think they should teach evolution by using transformers. Some are ridiculous while other are very much possible

  • I get that feeling too at 12:15. It just costs too much to get a spare sometimes.

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  • I'm over the First Editions not being available. The RIDs are fine

  • @powermasterjazz I wish I was over the first editions... i really do. RIDs still feel like a second place win to me. I tried to find some but the costs went up! crazy...

  • @MegaSnowlizard The only one I really don't like is the Optimus. I may shell out for a FE of him. The rest of the RIDs look great to me

  • Just got him and bumblebee in toys r us in my town of cicero Illinois

  • will anymore First Additions be sold in the future? and if so, will they be available in stores like Target, Walmart, and Kmart instead of just being sold at ToysRus?

  • which one would you more recommend for stop motion?

  • nice

  • He's got great light-piping... I can't get it to work. What?

  • Great review as always.

    P.S. Calm down people, this review is an opinion remember? No need to insult anyone over toys.

  • if you get the voyager megatron can you do a group shot with all of your transformers prime toys please

  • @peaugh RID version is good too? Hmm. Controversial, but you're the expert so I'll take your word for it, my friend.

  • Toysrus.com has most of the 1st wave RID for sale. Soundwave is out of stock thou.

  • The RID version looks better? Are you on drugs, peaugh?

  • I think you're trying too hard to sell this toy, man

  • They announced fall of cybertron combaticons toys. They are all gonna b deluxe and combine into bruticus

  • @SideswipePowns Pretty sure he knew that since he's a frequent visitor to TFW.

  • Meh. I'm still for the more show (and transformation)-accurate First Edition. Wheeljack is a good figure, though.

  • it's good to see the transformations are still a but intricate

  • wich to get i migght go with 2nd one

  • im confused about something, is the first edition cliffjumper gonna be in the RID line or is there a different version entirely of cliffjumper in the RID line

  • @aidzo5999 They're going to release a modified version of FE cliffjumper as Terrorcon Cliffjumper. Missing a horn, lots of Dark Energon spots, darker red coloration.

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  • Oh man, dat Bulkhead! Still holding out hope the FE's get released later on down the line, repackaged or not. Glad to see the RID line isn't the junk fans are screaming it is.

  • This is not as good as 1st Edition Cliffjumper. I HATE his chest because they cheated by sticking a fake car roof on there.

  • They remind me of the robots in descuise.

  • 1st edition has better upper body and RiD has better lower body in my opinion

  • hey do you tink their will be more 1st edition clifjumper? were did u bought your n how much?

  • Gorilla is not a monkey. Monkeys have tails, apes (including us) do not.

  • The robots in disguise Bumblebee is HORROBLE. If I were you I would try to get the first eddition. Seriously try and grt the first eddition

  • wow he looks a lot better in this video than what the pictures of him

  • i'm confused

  • were can i get a first edition one the RiD one isnt that bad its just the first edition one just catches my attention for.....

  • It's our choice to decide which we want to buy, true, but when the company that makes them decides they're not going to ship any more of the first editions, then that leaves us with only the option of buy the new one or go without. I didn't see a single first edition figure in ANY store here, wanted them all badly, but instead we get this guy. Cheat chest, unnecessary cheat wheels, cheat headlights. Meh. I'll pass -.-

  • I'm not exactly a fan of the RID sub-line, I like the first edition's better, but I guess I'll have to settle for these IF Hasbro doesn't release FEs here in the states.

  • @peaugh arcee is much smaller compared to cliffjumper. bumblebee comes up to about cliffjumper's shoulder, and arcee is slightly taller than bumblebee's waist. so arcee doesn't have any size cheating in her transformation.

  • i like everything about this one except for the large amount of "fake" parts that form the chest.

  • The FE one does a lot of things I like better, but honestly this one does not at all look like a bad figure. His engineering kind of reminds me of the Autobot Bros form the original RID.

    I'll probably pick this guy up just because I like Cliff, I like the alt-mode, and I've given up on trying to ever get any of the FE figures.

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  • Holy moly, 6 minutes and 12 seconds of babbling about the vehicle mode before even starting transformation. Has to be a new record

  • Dispise that one! Hasbroooo!!!!

    Waiting for repackaged First Edition toys. So dissapointed. A faux window? Really??

    Sighs.

  • No arm guns, you can't split him in half, and the body is in drab grey plastic. Sorry, but I can't see it.

  • I'm disappointed in the toy designers on this one. The whole point of Transformers is a vehicle, and all of it's parts, become a robot. Here the vehicle folds away revealing a robot inside. Not only is it a "shellformer", but it has the fake roof, windshield, headlights, and wheels molded into Cliffjumper's body, where the real parts are hidden on his back. Now the first edition is obsolete and expensive. Too bad.

  • Kinda off topic from the video, but why does everyone on TFW make such a big deal about Windcharger? He's just a scout, not that great imo.

  • rid looks better but them damn mechtech ports in vehicle mode look bad and the first edition hand gun is pretty cool

  • Honestly, though, could they have picked a worse subtitle than Robots In Disguise? I hate that cartoon. I hope this line doesn't suffer from the legacy of that crappy show and toyline (actually to be fair I never have seen the toys in person but they just look stupid)

  • @jlward Some of them are still really cool, actually! There's a big Optimus and Ultra Magnus that combine together into a giant deathbringer.

  • I like the RID version, looks really cool and has more of a Show accurate look to him in robot mode =)

  • the first edition is WAY better in my opinoin

  • @greenheatran agreed

  • So glad i bout 1st edition one

  • @TheKrezer123 I wish I had. I had no idea they'd replace it with such an unimaginative version.

  • wait is his hood ordament sized to fit a 3 mm clip

  • Peaugh, you're helping make us all feel better about this whole 'FE' hawt-mess. Thanks for the long review! I'm actually kinda hopeful for this one now. Thanks!

  • peaugh can you review some more food pweez :D

  • I still preferr the First Edition. RID isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Is there waist articulation on either? I don't remember seeing that covered, and I always skip past the transformations so I don't spoil it for myself.

  • @Sunstreaker68 Yes, they both have waist swivels.

  • @peaugh Awesome...well then I must travel far and wide to collect both. Thank you for the wonderful review good sir. 

  • @Sunstreaker68 i also skip transformations

  • Thank you for reviewing this figure, I was really down about the 1st Editions being "cancelled" but after watching your review I feel much better about this figure. Can't wait to find one now!

  • Hang on. Cliffjumper's gonna be a playable character in Fall of Cybertron, and he has a head based on his Prime self. Maybe the hammer/gun weapon is gonna be his default weapon in the game.

  • dude at first when i saw bolth of these together i thought i liked the first edition better, after seeing your review my mind is changed ; )

  • Why not just use the 1st edition colors and mold, WTF Hasbro

  • Are you gonna review the TF:P cyberverses when they come out? I'm looking to get a few of them.

  • No more 1st editions in NH besides Bumblebee, Arcee, and Starscream. Hopefully they will show up TJ Maxx soon. Don't wanna pay eBay scalper prices because of limited distribution.

  • @creggar I'm very confused as why everyone says that the FEs will show up at TJ Maxx. Care to explain? :)

  • @JKimproductions910 Figures that dont get released tend to show up at discount stores, like TJ Maxx. The majority of the reveal the shield line is an example of this.

  • @JKimproductions910 Alot of toys that didn't make a widespread appearance at retail, like HA Mudflap, RTS Windcharger/ Grapple/ Lugnut etc. eventually showed up at TJ Maxx, Marshalls or Ross stores at greatly discounted prices. I'm hoping that these FE's and later editions of Prime figs. show up there, 'cause toys just don't get shipped up here too often, and when they do, eBay scalpers or lucky collectors scoop them up.

  • Why are people still bashing this figure? I have to admit I was pretty pissed when the FE were cancelled but this is a pretty nice Cliffjumper. Now about the Voyager Optimus....

  • So ben, when is the figure for Cliffcharger coming out? LOL :P That would actually be an interesting fan made custom, your slip of the tongue might actually inspire something cool :)

  • What I hate the most about this figure are the long arms. He and RiD Optimus have orangutan arms. Add to that the hollow limbs and transformation cheat and this is an all around terrible figure. Even without seeing the vastly superior FE Clifjumper I'd still hate this.

  • Peaugh quit rubbing in that you have both Cliffjumpers.........as well as Windcharger.

  • omg i cant wait this guy...... sucks. first edition is better, and its never coming to retail in u.s.

  • Is it me or that weapon that Cliffjumper comes with, reminds me of a gravity hammer from halo?

  • I really don't get why people turn down on the TF: PRIME RiD Deluxe Cliffjumper, because I like this guy too, I don't get why that is such a problem.

  • I hate u hasbro I like first one better god !

  • Looks pretty good, lets hope that England sees ANY prime toys. :D

  • are u getting the new arcee (RID Arcee)

  • I'll wait for the terracon Cliffjumper..

  • He's even more ugly than i first thought!

     Ok, the paint abs are better...But these arms..and those legs.....empty!

    Feel very cheap.....and again a false chest (after Optimus, DOTM Soundwave)

    even his weapon doesn't make it for me....and sadly looks like i will never see th efirst edition in France....TT______TT

  • I like this one better !

  • You're defending it too much, is something wrong with it?

  • Looks alot better than the original

  • I must admit, he quickly grew on me after seeing some reviews. A good camera really helps bring out the nice points of the figure, and really the only thing missing is the triple-barreled handular justice (well, affordably, anyway).

  • Were the FE just to good quality?I really can only think Hasbro canceled it as a freaking cut saving cost even after most likely making a lot of them already. It just feels like these toys are just not as good in quality as the first edition except going for the gimmicky weapon over a show accurate design, I am not the type of person to complain about accuracy. But when you prove you can make the awesome FE figures it just makes me upset that they release figures that just look worse to me

  • The First addition figures are canceled at stores and online thank you hasbro. The good thing i got starscream bumblebee an arcee

  • @gesmotech1980 does that mean that optimus prime is cancelled or everything

  • Pretty nice figure. Just wish they would have gave him the arm guns, but oh well.

  • wait, you found a Windcharger?

  • so now i cant get any of the first edition figures? which if true HASBRO is retarded.

  • I'm just waiting for Canada to get Soundwave, that's all I want from this line. Maaaaaybe Airachnid if they make right.

  • @Arro3 i just want to get arcee and airachnid if they make her too. maybe i will get soundwave and bumblebee

  • Think I will get both

  • RID Version is awesome!

    

  • Hm, when i first saw reviews of the RID version of this guy, i wasn't really impressed, but you make a convincing perspective on this one. Sadly I can't get the FE figs, since Hasbro skipped the UK completely with those.

    I might look into getting some of the RiD figures, i think i might go for the japanese versions if i can, for some reason, I just don't like the red transluscent weapons the american/EU versions seem to be gettig. only question is where to get them from, TFS or BBTS

  • thanks to these reviews i am really considering getting the prime figures

  • sick

    

  • Is there a gimmick to the Revealers lines or is it just supposed to be a different line.

  • @SolidSnake2017 depends on how you look at it, the japanese will come with little figures that become their weapons from the show, and the powerizers have the weird clear plastic and mechtech-y lookin things

  • hey peaugh, you mentioned a cliffjumper giveaway, any details about that? :D

  • Nice!

  • i dont think thats in scale with arcee because in the episode where it was a flashback and BB & cliff were carrying arcee out he seemed bigger but who knows

  • ill wait to see of they come up with a power up cliff jumper that will have his hands change to blasters. soething like they did with bb in hunt for the dicepticons movie line.

  • @Slimshadow457 yeah, lile right after I posted that I found the human alliance soundwave and ordered it! xD so chill out dude

  • Well thanks for showing this Figure cause it looks like Crap compared to the FE

    & now I have to thank hasbro for canceling the better figure

  • Do you have Voyager Megatron?

  • I like the car mode better in the first-edition figure and the robot mode better in the RiD version.

  • anyone have a link to the new arcee how she looks? and any idea how rare soundwave is going to be.

  • why would you even make first edition different this just pisses me off because now i probably wont get 1st edition

  • Eek, just noticed how hollow the torso looks from the side. Thaaat's not good. But First Edition had a similar problem.

  • Great review Peaugh! I have to say, this a cool version of cliff jumper. I think that both versions of this figure are unique in there own way. Thanks for sharing!

  • I'm actually warming up to RID Cliff, but man. Those arms are ridiculous. I can't stand robots with no biceps. And he's missing the square pauldrons, instead having big ol' wheels there.

    His legs look so much cooler, though. Those silver kneecaps and toes!

  • Yeah love it more than the first ed love it

  • so wait HASBRO went to the trouble of making two versions of this guy and now they are not even releasing the one.  Does that mean voyager prime and bulkhead also are not being released along with starscream arcee and bumblebee?

  • @starscream7755 Correct. The rest of the First Edition line has been cancelled, and online retailers were never sent any stock. Your only option is eBay, and prices have already exploded.

  • Idk i like this guy better than the first edition better to customize i say

  • Those faux wheels on the back of his thighs are completely unnecessary, but yeah he's pretty cool.

  • @WhiteLongSword7 yeah i agree on the wheels

  • Peaugh, do you know anyone who had a wing break off 1st ed Starscream. The wing broke off the swivel (think that is the joint name) and came off. The wing itself is all in one piece and it can still fit on thanks to a little slit on the rotating part that allows the wing to stay on in both modes it just can easily fall off.

    Anyways I hate that these never appear in Canada, just went to Toys R us today to hopefully get bulhead, sadly no and just saw a wall of DOTM toys, mostly the first wave :(

  • Hey guys, just wondering does anybody know when TF Prime figures are hitting the UK? There in catalogue's and stuff, but there is no release date lol! Great review as always Peaugh :)

  • Arcee's supposed to be smaller than cliff...the detail in her FE deluxe is amazing, but it cost her the scaling against other characters. Her RiD mold might make her scale better with the FE versions though, if the size decrease applies. Great review though.. the Cliff looks better than I though but not sure if I still wanna get it ..Wheeljack and Soundwave first!

  • You had to bring out Windcharger, the only one of the RTS that I don't have because Hasbro stinks!

  • RID looks fine, other than "its not 1st edition" or non japanese import. RID looks a lot more stream lined and seems cheaper than putting out 2x - 3x as much for a 1st edition.

  • 1st edition looks so much better. I'm so incredibly sad it was cancelled.

  • Thanks for the comparison review Peaugh. I love the Dodge Challenger vehicle finally some old school muscle car.

  • when will you be doing more Kamen Rider Fourze reviews?

  • That Vehicon is sexy.

    in regards to Cliff: He is a 'bit' small for a deluxe, but I think the problem is the guys he's stacked against are unusually tall.

  • i'm confused by all this. why is it the "first edition" figures are better than these, yet they were the ones canceled? cost?

  • I don't necessarily like it...but I'm sure this will be the only Prime Cliffjumper I'll ever be able to get my hands on.....*sigh* se la vie...

  • Damn peaugh, you've done it again :D

    It's becoming reaaal hard to not want the Prime toys.

  • I originally hated this figure, you just changed my mind haha

  • He really looks better in my opinion since he looks slimmer with the big red feet. Question is what do you prefer? black or gray, clear windshield or dark windshield, wide chest or slim chest, triple barrel or mace. Downfall for me is those peg holes and it doesn't look like he has a ninety degree angle at the elbow. Also, they didn't have to put those wheels on the hamstring area.

  • Thanks for giving an honest review of this, peaugh. Of course, now I'm even more conflicted about which Rockjumper to get. :P

  • Why the hell is Hasbro releasing new versions?! If you don't know what toy to make, make more movie shit! Where's our Blackout Leader, our Dino/Mirage? Our other figures?!

  • @Slimshadow457

    mirage = ferrari license issue

  • @TOFMDrone Seriously? Wait, so they can't even do a Mirage/Dino? No... No, you're kidding! Dude, no! We were told he was in wave 7 with Wheeljack repaint of Que...

  • @Slimshadow457

    a repaint of que/weeljack is not a ferrari ;-)

    and yeah, sadly it is tru as far as i know, kinda like with the 2007 volkswagen beetle bumblebee issue.

    ferrari only allowed the use of a ferrari if the name of the bot was "dino", the reason?:

    "The name "Dino" honors the founder's late son, Alfredo "Dino" Ferrari"

  • @TOFMDrone I know, not stupid bud, I was part of the whole: Is it a troll or is he actually going to be called Dino thing before release xD But then why do I still hear news of the coming Dino figure? And I still want my Wheeljack repaint of Que and Soundblaster repaint of Soundwave!

  • @Slimshadow457

    if there is ever a release of the ferrari from DOTM, there is at this time no reason to believe he's not going to be called "dino".

    then again, in the movie's credits, when the voice actor for Q rolls bye, it states Q/Wheeljack . . .

    but nothing is stoping you from buying a ferrari transformer ( if ever released ) and just calling him mirage ;-)

  • @TOFMDrone I know, that has nothing to do with anything man :) I'm just stating that I know Dino was called Mirage before release :/ If we get a Dino, it's going to be Mirage for me lol... I saw in the movie the Que thing, too, but I want the alternate headed and G1 deco Que.

  • @TOFMDrone

    So hasbro can be bothered to get nascar licences for the wreckers?

  • @scoobsterinc

    the fact that hasbro at least asked ferrari for there permission but where denied by ferrari is sad, i want a ferrari transformer to.

    but yeah, it sucks that ferrari gives permission to use a car in the movie, but not for toys, then again ROTF deluxe jolt ( if i am not mistaken ) was not a licensed chevy volt either.

    gues hasbro is scared of beeing sued by ferrari if they try anything like that

  • @Slimshadow457 not to mention Soundwave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!