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  • They've been delaying release because AMD has busted a nut with 384 bit rape cards on 3 gigs ddr5 ram in 28 nano. The previous rumors from nvidia were empty of any 28 nano talk, and did have talk of the 560 equivilents (660ti) being only 1.5 gig vid ram. They are obviously rethinking this now, hence the delay.

  • Honestly not bad, you guys could make it, keep it up and keep up a personality!

  • He he he i have access to the steam app :D

  • What is the point of these cards?, i have two 580's and there are no games that currently exist to push them to thier limit, look at the samaritan demo thats nearly a year old but where are the games, you can run Battlefield 3 maxed out on just a 460gtx, Skyrim no dx11, Cyrsis 2 dx11 months after release but only partly utilised ect.

  • @C6H8O3

    The point of the cards is that not everyone runs with 2 cards.

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  • games just are not created like they use to be anymore there is no need for a top end processor in a console anymore , i have a gtx 580 and it is total overkill ,yes i am going to upgrade to Kepler when it is released but i am a enthusiast most people dont need 60-100 fps to play a game all xbox needs is 30fps at the most .

  • Fuck yeah Mac, screwing up the computer industry every step of the way.

  • Problem with putting high end hardware into consoles is their pricing .. Too many people would be quite mad at Microsoft or Sony if their next console costs 1000-1500 dollars ...

  • @tore1992 yea but the GFX card is the most important thing in cosoles, they should not cheap out on that peice of hardware at all, IMO they should of put a 6850 or 6870, cards are pretty cheap for performance, if they sell the consoles for 400-500 dollars, i think they could of put these cards in for sure and still make profit.

  • Argh, damn this new YouTube layout. I keep missing lots of new vids because I can't clear away the ones I've already seen or don't want to view like the previous design let you. If they added that back along with the "watched" tag this new design would be fine (oh and the reply inbox actually taking you to the damn reply would be nice to have back too...). Sorry for the rant, but I missed this video by the best part of a week because of this retarded new system.

  • Hey guys great review, but I would like you guys in you opinion and experience this. If the 600 series were to be skipped would that be considered skipping kepler and going straight to maxwell or would it mean going to 700 series and seeing maxwell by next year?

  • How dare you have a ford poster and you're Canadian. It should always be chevy. ALWAYS.

  • install the app and review it its open to all now i would like to see it not all of us have app devices!

  • LOGAN IS BETTER!

  • @MeesterChao yes he and no one can replace him but i think we do a great job as well in a different way

  • @MeesterChao bauer+albert were good too

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  • I have the steam app and in the beta :D

  • hey, Dave, could you tell me how to spell your partner's name? " Dead" ?

  • @dzwyt1024 huh?

    Dan

  • @TheTechSource1 OK, got it :)

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  • i feel like im watching a rerun again.. i just dont know -.-

  • lol 7870/50s better and huge overclocking room then the 560/70s and 6950/70s and cheaper. can't wait also supposedly after the 7990, amd is releasing ANOTHER new card series which'll take the market once again cause for people waiting on nvidia, you can only believe

  • Do you guys do your homework at all? a release next month... Um they've said already a summer release is the best bet. As well its been said that they might skip the 600 series cards and go right to the 700 series cards. To the consoles used games not being used a rumor, as for the the MS points thats not for the new system lol thats going into affect at the end of this years. And why only talk about the video card? plus you got it wrong...

  • @Inthepastxx "Rumors", there is conflicting information everywhere, just because you heard a different set doesn't make your rumors "more correct". Also we already stated they may be called 6xx series or 7xx series for NVIDIA in previous episodes, multiple times. We do plenty of homework, and if you were doing yours you would know about the midrange series releasing before the flagship card :)

    - Dave

  • @TheTechSource1 I have a feeling they are definitely going to 700 series. if you look at the nvidia website, they already list a couple midrange 600 series mobile gpus, as available product. Same scenario happened with the 300, but that is speculation all the same :P

  • @Inthepastxx whats with the new ms point thing? i still have 1500 points they arent gonna delete them are they?

  • @estring123 there wont be any after this year is up, your actually going to have to pay in cash now so say if something cost 20 dollars instead of spending 800MS points you'll pay the 20 dollars instead. And yes if they go through with this, if those points aren't used by the end of the year they'll go away, but I'm sure they'll refund you.

  • @Inthepastxx I appreciate your feedback.....

  • @Inthepastxx lol u got burned and they r calling it the 6xx series. ;-)

  • @PowerGPUcom what are you talking about? They haven't said a damn thing about the new cards. So me getting burned didn't happen and even if they did big deal? lol its just been said they might just called it the 700 series cards.

  • I like how much effort you guys put into getting the information on leaks!

  • pc and ps3 pleases me enough

  • Well you could always make a no news video like than guy from motherboards does........

    Na. Fair enough to say that there is no news....nothing wrong with that.

    PS. Some guy on steam gave me his beta access to the mobile beta steam.

    Not sure who he is so going to give it a go. I am in europe so not sure if it will work

  • @Irishgamer01 My friend gave me access to the beta for steam. The news video is the main part of this channel with out that we are like everyone else

    Dan

  • hehe I've been using steam mobile for two days. :)

  • weeee so fun watching these

  • the ps3 had the nvidia RSX gpu as powerful as 2 7800 GTX in sli, just letting u guys know. powergpu signing out

  • @PowerGPUcom Really, I remeber when the RSX I thought they said it had the power of the 7800GTX not 2 of them with the 7 core cell cpu. I know the xbox used a power pc 3 core cpu with a ATI 1900xtx/2900xt hybrid video card

    Dan

  • I <3 TECHSOURCE

  • @MastaGwee Thanks man!

    Dan

  • I think I am done with console's, Once I built my gaming pc WOW the graphics are so so sharp. When the 720 comes out it will be PC upgrade or buy a game console, hmm let me think DUHHH of course I will upgrade my PC. A console is a down grade.

  • @frostr1 If the rumors are true that the next xbox will only have a amd hd 6670 as GPU, every decent gaming pc build/bought the last 2 years will have at least 4 more years on "ultra" settings, before you maybe want to consider some small upgrades.

    Welcome to pc gaming. (If you has steam add me: Caelistas/steam id: cd5859)

  • Given our current technology it should be much cheaper to produce video game. I have no idea why microsoft is restricting users from selling video games, something is wrong here. Maybe it's because our current ip laws allows this shit to happen. Also video games are overpriced. It looks like I will buy a wii-u or the next sony console.

  • @LockDeltz the next new Nintendo is supposed to have a Radeon HD 4850 512mb so with that kind of firepower Nintendo will make great looking games.

  • @ffnlink True but if the next xbox is going to be using a gpu with no more than an 80 dollar price tag the total price better not be more than 300$

  • Thats a great news !

    I was realy angry when this i try to log in :////// this is a big fail Steam !

  • it doesnt work on ipad num nuts

  • The 720's specs make me want to hurl.

  • Oh and another thing I expect that feature of the 720 to be cracked. PC games are already cracked, you can get starcraft II for free. Microsoft will piss off so many hackers.

  • good vid love what u do..

  • @ilibasic Thanks man!

    - Dave

  • Can't buy used games anymore? Is this some way to fight piracy? Video games are already overpriced (including PC games), a lot it has to with the economy, some of it has to do with ip laws such as software patents. I wouldn't mind this feature if new games are like $25. I'll be playing a lot of Tribes: Ascend which is free.

  • lol im not surprised microsoft ripping off their customers with a shitty card, hope they finally die next generation.

  • Just sign in then wait, you will get the Steam Mobile Beta access soon!

  • ps3 has a single core processor

  • lol, even the Wii U's 4890 will be better.

  • I got in the Beta for steam mobile, its really good for an extension of steam into the mobile market. I wish Origin would release it's battlelog app so I could use both of them to communicate and track stats with friends

  • U know the thing is that bcoz of that crappy Ati 6670, Game Developer wont have proper resources to put high end quality-graphics on games. & as u know most games are made for Console then ported to PC. Bcoz of Microsoft gaming graphics will suffer.

  • @CJ2GAME At leased games will start using DX11 Native even if the next Xbox will have a crappy GPU it will not matter so long as it will be DX11 Native.

  • .......lol 6670

  • You guys should check out the Nvidia GeForce GTX 690 :D

  • @ooOLIQUIDATOROoo We did talk about it, its going to use the GK110 core.

    - Dave

  • its actually fine that the new xbox is having a 70 dollar graphics card. Consoles appeal to the masses of regular people and therefore they need to be easily accessible. That means they need to be cheap like 400 dollars, so they can't use the greatest 300 dollar video card. If people really cared about performance they would get a pc. Xbox's are meant to appeal to average gamers that just wanna play fun games at decent graphics and frame rates.

  • I feel betrayed, I demand an hour long video to make up for this insult!

  • Ummm they can't put a $500 video card in a console and expect it to be profitable but I still say they must use something like a 6850 or 6870.

  • consoles are the reason graphics improvements in average are going nowhere

  • wow a 6670 im shaking in my boots

    i hope the graphics are not too real

  • Little news this week = Lots of news next week? :D

  • @Gamer1010101 we hope so but next week im busy with personal stuff so not sure if we can shoot the show.

    Dan

  • OKAY LISTEN UP JR!!!!!!!!!!, the 6670 in the xbox 720 will be way more powerful than the PC card. First they are setting the bar for the PS4, HELLO this is Microsoft, they NEVER SPILL THE BEANS. It might feature tech from the 7970 so it will use less power and heat. It won't be a 7970 (if you know what I am saying) It won't be the $70 PC card, they want to confuse Sony. OHHHH and Sony fans you can thank me later :) :) :)

  • @frostr1 Just no.

  • Xbox is using a shitty gpu since they're trying to keep the price of the console reasonable. Also, the 6670 will perform much better on a console than a pc.

  • @PMWxCLANx Yup, what this guy said.

    The devs have the chance to optimize the shit out of that one particular GPU.

  • everyone has to realize alot of time goes into making these videos and not every week they will have a shit load of time to spare for youtube videos...

  • @darkworld280 Thanks :) we do have lives and full times jobs out side of working on our hobby of youtube

    Dan

  • @TheTechSource1 if only people realized that...

  • @darkworld280 Thank you, these episodes take a decent amount (hours) to film and then it takes Danny a while to edit (which he does an awesome job at). Also its not just filming itself, we also switch the location which requires Danny to drive to my place near Toronto or me to drive to Barrie. There is also the fact we both work full time and we maintain contact with manufacturers. This isn't counting the other things I'm probably forgetting, there is a LOT which goes into making TTS.

    - Dave

  • How is the name xbox 720 a shitty name, beside the name really doesn't matter if the product is you good, the pa vita has a cool name, but it is a shitty product

  • why cant you just talk about the news you have but to more extent and with more detail so you wouldn't have to come up with stuff like "Express"

  • @jaheermk We covered all details which we could find.

    - Dave

  • Replace bad words with not so bad words please! Example: "crappy"

  • @ZinicFTW BAD WORDS ? I didnt say fuck so no

  • @ZinicFTW there is nothing wrong with saying shit you gypsy

  • @ZinicFTW LMFAO, "The Tech Source, Seaseme Street Edition".

    - Dave

  • @TheTechSource1 Sorry I mentioned it... Say anything you like.

  • No news exactly! I think Dave just wanted to brag about Nvidia fluff. 

  • @captaincough Basically yes, and he got to

    Dan

  • @captaincough Of course I did, I'm very excited for the next Nvidia 6xx/7xx series cards. We also do news for any updates on AMD's newer cards.

    - Dave

  • @TheTechSource1 Yes, and I do enjoy the Nvidia, AMD tension there is between you two.

  • If the next consoles had GPU's like the 580 or the 7970 they would cost more than a thousand dollars.

  • @ffnlink haha, so true... but the 720 should at least pack a 6870 imo

  • Regarding the xbox 720.... The estimated release date is 2013-14. So a 6670 is REALLY going to SUCK in about a year.

  • you guys want in the steam app beta i have one beta place for the app

  • News on the Xbox 720 is interesting. It's important to remember that the PS3 and 360 actually did not have the latest and greatest of it's time, the ps3 has something that's a cross between a 7600GT and 7800GT when the 7800GTX existed and the 7900 series was being released at that time. The 360 has a smaller gpu than the one in the PS3 but it was the first to have unified shaders and more effective memory. Both however are severely gimped with the paltry amount or ram and memory bandwidth.

  • @AgentGhost

    Having a generation of consoles that natively support DX11 and have I would assume decent memory, would make a huge difference especially considering how efficient consoles are compared with PC. At the same time this is only a rumor, MS and Sony have a history of changing specs at the last minute, makes me think they are deliberately providing false intel in order to psych the other side to lowering the bar.  We'll see.

  • that is bad xbox news. i hope that card is not used.

  • ironically i just did (finished uploading like 5 hrs ago) a pc vs console debate video discussing the new ps4 and xbox 720 VS a pc and current system's.

    check it out :)

    watch?v=esqtcC6fJp4

    btw: GJ guys, but id like to see some more rumors talked about with the cpu department and your opinion.

  • I, like the rest of you, prefer longer episodes, but I can understand, there were not much stories this week :/ oh well, great news, as always.

  • You should have talked about the new crytek free to play online game, Warface... Great episode anyway guys! :)

  • they are only making games with codes so they cant copy games that means there sales go up

  • 6670 can play BF3 on high at 20FPS! thats epic!

  • @Luger718A1 thats shit 20FPS it needs to be like 60FPS if its going to be good

  • Express is better then nothing, but surpised you guys didnt touch base on the HP exploding battery law suit LOL.

  • @acordxtc I've heard about that, I think that lawsuit has really been ..blown.. out of proportion. We really need to not ..blast.. this story all over the place.

    - Dave

  • Nvidia needs to work on the power consumption of their gpu's..

  • Whew, keep up the good word guys!

  • @Skribbles007 Thanks man!

    - Dave

  • I would love to see 2 classes of an xbox .. the cheap $150 one and a very good one for like $400 - 600 that runs games on ultra

  • @SDSxPYRo Will never happen, that's why you have pc gaming.

    The ability to build/customize every pc part to you're liking, and make it as cheap/expensive as you decide.

  • So looking forward to new Nvidia cards!!!

  • @Malevolence2012 Me too!! That GK104 should be amazing and the GK110 is going to be a beast.

    - Dave

  • i seriously face palmed myself when i heard the new xbox is using the 6670.....and the console nerds will be stuck with it for another 6 years lmfao.

  • I like it!

    

  • I Do like the fact that you have a Video, and I understand there is no news. I would prefer Longer videos. I don't expect you to make all of them like this, but I figured I would just say.

    Have a Great Day!

    -Dacooter

  • @dacooter Thank you for the good understanding words man :)

    - Dave

  • Express? Fuck dat shit :(

  • @xlaleclx we like the longer videos as well but no news = short video :(

  • @TheTechSource1 You would think they would atleast use something like a 6850 in the 720 but who knows. Im a PC gamer until the end of time anyway!

  • well screw that, i was getting the new WII anyways

  • You guys are the only ones who can get me to pause my Metallica.

  • @WARFOX101 hahah nice :)

  • @TheTechSource1 do you want into the steam app beta (Steam Mobile Access) its tradable so i can just give it to you.

    it gave me a extra access when i got in the beta so do you want it?

  • 7870/50's and the 7990's are also coming out soon :]

  • what most pc gamers don't understand about consoles is that the games are heavily optimised for that one system and games do look amazing look at god of war 3 uncharted series heavy rain gears of war 3 and so on pc games look good but because we fall prey to phoney gpu and hardware wars the software for games and the drivers are nowhere near as optimised as they could be

  • @Niqbal87 This is true.

    Dan

  • @Niqbal87 PC is still > console!

  • @Niqbal87 all that means is that in this case their 6670 will perform closer to a 6850 by PC standards....but nowhere near say a 6950 or 6850,,,,,and i dont think theyll be able to put out full 1080p games

  • @Luger718A1 i have a 6850 and can max out all games at 1080p at 60fps with my quad core i5 2500k. If the ps3 had a 6 or 7 core cpu and whatever gpu and can already run all its first party games at 1080p(they look and run better and have far less glitches than most pc games in my opinion) then next gen is just unfathomable

  • @Niqbal87 guess well have to wait and see

  • @Niqbal87 God of War 3, Uncharted, Gears of War 3, etc would all look far better and play far better on a decent newish PC but to many people fall victim and support an inferior consolized system that is on its way out.

  • @leanlifter1 have you actually played these games? they are as great as they could be barring any calientes mods lol in all seriousness please stop with all these fanboy comments. First party games are good on consoles because there is a major lack of piracy so devs give the games there all and they all work very well on one type of system. In pc gaming if new gpus were released once every two or 3 years we would see major strides in what could be done.(look on my comment below about gta )

  • @Niqbal87 GTA 4 played just beautifully maxed out in 09 on my at the time CF Radeon HD 4890 rig and at the very leased PC has far better AA/AF and Skyrim looks shit without mods mods that would bog down the consoles to prob 15fps or less. Forza 4 looks and plays great and is a monumental achievement and is what a console like Xbox is good for.I am not a fan boy I just already owned a PC anyways so I might as well save money instead of buying a slower performing console play toy.

  • @Niqbal87 still even with optimization, look at GTA iv on pc, then compare to 360, it looks terrible, i cant play anymore, don't get me wrong i love the 360 but come on, use atleast the 6970, play all games for the next 1-2 years on native 1920x1080

  • @vanhodid i thought it was universally known how bad gta 4 was made for any system. On pc unless you had a dual 480 setup you couldn't get over 30fps. For me i played on ps3 first my only problem with it was the driving but other people noticed many slowsdowns. I also played it on my pc a year ago when i had a i5 650 and a 6850 and couldn't get above 30fps(regardless of) but recently when i got a i5 2500k and same single gpu i noticed that i can get 60fps.

  • Don't care about the intro music even though it's not to my taste. As long as it's a short intro.

  • Love it!

  • Ooooo express videos. Sweet. Good work guys!

  • @YaoFioCA Thanks for the good words dude :)

    - Dave

  • keep the intro its intense.

  • @MastaGwee Ya I missed doing that during this episode :(

    - Dave

  • i like the express version

  • Uploaded 6 minutes ago... haha

  • get rid of that annoying intro

  • @DemonFlame4 What don't you like about it?

    - Dave

  • you guys should put some background music in your videos.

  • @TheUnbeatableSpartan its hard to find fitting music trust me Iv been looking.

    Dan

  • @TheTechSource1 steve.giampa on skype, we can talk about composing some custom music for you guys

  • Love your show! Keep up the good work guys! Greetings from Berlin :)

  • @igouroum Thanks for the good words man!

    - Dave

  • First, sorry had to do it. Keep it up guys

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