there is nothing wrong with wearing glasses/goggles when playing FPS games, think about the SAS/SEALs/special op teams, they all have shiny nerdy goggles, which make them so cool!
You are correct. Anything that would attach two infrared LEDs to your head would work. With the proper calibration routine in software they wouldn't even have to form a horizontal line when your head is in a neutral position.
umm... you wouldn't neccicarily need IR leds. You could use regular leds. Shown with the candle sensor bar trick. You just need a source of light. So... couldn't you just go to the hardware store and buy one of those hats with the leds in them?
I heard something about "adding textures". Nooooo! I love the retro look of that game! I don't see it for download on the site, only the Missile Command one. :(
Nintendo and the others will release something like this with the next generation. It's not the sort of thing you can just tack on to the Wii. So don't worry, it'll become a reality. About 2 more years until the next consoles begin being released.
I can tell you why I haven't done any Nintendo development. I tried to sign up for a developer account and they wouldn't let me because I didn't have an office that wasn't a home office to do the development in. Had I been able to sign up you can be sure that I would have games out on wiiWare.
I would guess that others aren't doing this because they don't understand the possibilities beyond what Johnny Lee has demo'd and they don't want to have to sell the glasses with the game.
One, they put the LEDs in front of your head, so that your head is less likely to block the wiiMote's view of them.
Two, they let "head tilt" be an option for control. The current setup turns with head tilt and sidesteps when you sidestep. A necklace would make that impossible.
An option that works for my requirements is a hat or headband. The glasses were just the easiest to make.
@gudnikristinn neckless?? stupid, how tight is it gonna have to be to ensure it moves accurately? uncomfortable at least. Ears? also silly what if people have hair covering that part? or don't like the feel ie too big too small or something, next time take 10 days instead of 10 seconds to try and come up with something :D
WHAT IS MALLOWEEN MARSHIE DOING IN THIS GAME, and why isn't he saying "I'll scare your dad"? Go back to Homestar Runner where you belong! This is too funny!
That depends on the brightness of the screen relative to the laser. You can calibrate the software to work with multi-color screens but it isn't as consistent right now. Another option is to use a more dangerous IR laser and a wiimote for detection.
I think the best method to make this even cooler would be to use an infrared light mounted on top of an infrared camera, that you mount on top of your TV, then you just wear a reflective headband, and reflective gloves, the refelective headband would be better than goggles, because if you turn around, it will still be tracking where you are...
Now all we need to come out are 360degree projection displays... so you can always see what's going on...
it s all well and good u showin this with the cam, so why hav nt u got the tracking device mounted on the camara, so we can see the bloody thing as it should be, it just looks like a fancy zx spectrum game in that view point!!!! "come on wake up"
You are misunderstanding how it works. It isn't doing the Johnny Lee method for making a static scene 3D. Instead headtracking is being used to navigate the environment. Because of this mounting the device to the camera would not give you the 3D effect that you seem to expect.
Here's the difference. In jcl5m's demo when you step to the side your point of view moves to the side and then stops.
In mine you step to the side to turn and you'll keep turning until you step back to the center. Does that make sense? You can't use jcl5m's method to turn, move forward, etc. I used it as an inspiration but my method is distinct from his.
jcl5m's method is great for a 3d effect but not effective for moving in an environment. Think it over...
Got to give credit where credit is due. Johnny Lee pumps out the wiiMote ideas, and I've latched on to one of them. Well one so far. I have a lightsaber idea that is a bit more original. Also, the details of the headtracking in this demo are a bit different than what Johnny has demo and this also includes laser tracking at the same time.
I've seen this before... but I was thinking about it in my head, and if Nintendo, or anyone else was going to market it, they would probably use the sensor in the wii remote.
Yeah, if Nintendo did it they would use two WiiMotes, one for head tracking and one for shooting. I only have one WiiMote, and my Mac can only connect to one anyhow, so I used the iSight to track the laser.
Sorry, I'm spending time on my day job and on hacking up this game, not on making videos that don't suck. It gets the idea across and shows you how the game works, so it does what it needs to do, right? What do you want, a soundtrack?
Man, imagine if they figured out how to use this as just a controller, play it with Marathon or Halo or something. :D
AwesomestSauceEver 1 month ago
there is nothing wrong with wearing glasses/goggles when playing FPS games, think about the SAS/SEALs/special op teams, they all have shiny nerdy goggles, which make them so cool!
SLBPhantom 4 months ago
"the first think you need" .... wanna word check your video just 1 time before you upload it?
YourPalHDee 1 year ago
awesome
shapeworkstudios1 1 year ago
it only appears to be 3d for the person with the two infrared LEDs
tado05pro 1 year ago
not bad
SunnyShahFilms 1 year ago
go mac
HDmusic1080 1 year ago
if this works there will be alot less fat people playing FPS games
ReeferBuddy 1 year ago 3
You don't need glasses for this, just a headband
Raymint 1 year ago
@Raymint
You are correct. Anything that would attach two infrared LEDs to your head would work. With the proper calibration routine in software they wouldn't even have to form a horizontal line when your head is in a neutral position.
arandomJohn 1 year ago
that dude does not know how to hold a gun.....has he even seen one???
touchsmart0 2 years ago
umm... you wouldn't neccicarily need IR leds. You could use regular leds. Shown with the candle sensor bar trick. You just need a source of light. So... couldn't you just go to the hardware store and buy one of those hats with the leds in them?
just checking
jakeburbrink 2 years ago
thats what they use
they use ir to make it invisible
zantrua 2 years ago
I heard something about "adding textures". Nooooo! I love the retro look of that game! I don't see it for download on the site, only the Missile Command one. :(
unnaturaltragedy 2 years ago
is this tech gonna be available to buy and if so wen
ShawnC777 2 years ago
cool
ShawnC777 2 years ago
Nintendo and the others will release something like this with the next generation. It's not the sort of thing you can just tack on to the Wii. So don't worry, it'll become a reality. About 2 more years until the next consoles begin being released.
Anenome5 2 years ago
Fricken amazing, and nintendos full of dickheads their is nothing you can do about it.
Zintendo 2 years ago
Why is Nintendo not taking advantage of this yet? Just want to hear some theories.
turducken321 2 years ago
I can tell you why I haven't done any Nintendo development. I tried to sign up for a developer account and they wouldn't let me because I didn't have an office that wasn't a home office to do the development in. Had I been able to sign up you can be sure that I would have games out on wiiWare.
I would guess that others aren't doing this because they don't understand the possibilities beyond what Johnny Lee has demo'd and they don't want to have to sell the glasses with the game.
arandomJohn 2 years ago
I would rent a storage unit and register it as an office and just do everything at home regardless.
ShesAHoFoShoYo 2 years ago
Why do you need Nerdy glasses?
I can come up with a better idea in 10sec,
Something that goes on one of your ears for example(similar to the bluetooth mobile phone hands free thingies).
Or just a necklace and then adjust the camera to be a few inches higher then the LED´s themselves(average neck to eye distance).
Your head is not going anywhere without your neck is it?
gudnikristinn 3 years ago
The glasses do two things.
One, they put the LEDs in front of your head, so that your head is less likely to block the wiiMote's view of them.
Two, they let "head tilt" be an option for control. The current setup turns with head tilt and sidesteps when you sidestep. A necklace would make that impossible.
An option that works for my requirements is a hat or headband. The glasses were just the easiest to make.
Thanks for your comment.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
... LEDs on ears won't be ideal. There is a big chance of blocking the LED when the head turns.
...a necklace... When your head turn/move, I guess the necklace won't move/turn too much...
So... idea in 10 sec doesn't really work... try harder.
chiko14june 2 years ago
Your 10-sec-ideas won't work. Try harder.
chiko14june 2 years ago
@gudnikristinn neckless?? stupid, how tight is it gonna have to be to ensure it moves accurately? uncomfortable at least. Ears? also silly what if people have hair covering that part? or don't like the feel ie too big too small or something, next time take 10 days instead of 10 seconds to try and come up with something :D
TheLydianRocks 1 year ago
@gudnikristinn think about what you're saying, YOU NEED TO TUUURRNNN your neck doesnt exactly turn as well as your head.
ant0n321 2 months ago
show us his view!
insanity54 3 years ago
WHAT IS MALLOWEEN MARSHIE DOING IN THIS GAME, and why isn't he saying "I'll scare your dad"? Go back to Homestar Runner where you belong! This is too funny!
tkwtube01 3 years ago
This is how the Wii SHOULD be used!
DanNinjaMan 3 years ago 2
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Awesome!
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Mudisticism 3 years ago
very cool, i want to play cod4 with this mod.
jeromote 3 years ago 4
You could just buy something called, "QualiEYE" for the PC and use that rather then a mouse.
veggievampire360 2 years ago
Very nice!!! But will this algorithm detect a tiny red laser spot on, for example, a colorful and agitated Quake screen?
creaktive 3 years ago
That depends on the brightness of the screen relative to the laser. You can calibrate the software to work with multi-color screens but it isn't as consistent right now. Another option is to use a more dangerous IR laser and a wiimote for detection.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
That is win. :)
n1ghtvenom 3 years ago
I think the best method to make this even cooler would be to use an infrared light mounted on top of an infrared camera, that you mount on top of your TV, then you just wear a reflective headband, and reflective gloves, the refelective headband would be better than goggles, because if you turn around, it will still be tracking where you are...
Now all we need to come out are 360degree projection displays... so you can always see what's going on...
I personally would love to buy a giant cylinder
VigorousJammer 3 years ago
no good, as the camera needs 2 points of light to be able to track rotation.
chaOsMastaGuru 3 years ago
it s all well and good u showin this with the cam, so why hav nt u got the tracking device mounted on the camara, so we can see the bloody thing as it should be, it just looks like a fancy zx spectrum game in that view point!!!! "come on wake up"
goldenmaget 3 years ago 2
You are misunderstanding how it works. It isn't doing the Johnny Lee method for making a static scene 3D. Instead headtracking is being used to navigate the environment. Because of this mounting the device to the camera would not give you the 3D effect that you seem to expect.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
What are you talking about jcl5m did it with his wii and got a realistic headtracking view!
Shuruto3 3 years ago
Here's the difference. In jcl5m's demo when you step to the side your point of view moves to the side and then stops.
In mine you step to the side to turn and you'll keep turning until you step back to the center. Does that make sense? You can't use jcl5m's method to turn, move forward, etc. I used it as an inspiration but my method is distinct from his.
jcl5m's method is great for a 3d effect but not effective for moving in an environment. Think it over...
arandomJohn 3 years ago
id rather see a 3d effect because it enhances the video experience instead of just adding another interface.
mj1903ikjshdj 3 years ago
Think it through. How are you going to move in the game world?
arandomJohn 3 years ago
with a standard controller.
desktoppirate 3 years ago 3
Video games may save our next generation from being obese! Action games!
Keepemout 3 years ago 2
34,602 views?! way to go John.
Glad to see my footage could go to good use.
-adam
spoolboyy 3 years ago
It helps when Engadget picks it up. :)
arandomJohn 3 years ago
I've been toying with the same idea. You should put 4 LEDs on the head so you can track 6 degrees of freedom.
tom3118 3 years ago
I discuss that idea on my blog. I'm holding off on that in order to use the remaining two points for a possible light saber.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
Sweet & L33t!!!!
commodore256 3 years ago
Johnny Lee props. Nice to see.
garion333 3 years ago
Got to give credit where credit is due. Johnny Lee pumps out the wiiMote ideas, and I've latched on to one of them. Well one so far. I have a lightsaber idea that is a bit more original. Also, the details of the headtracking in this demo are a bit different than what Johnny has demo and this also includes laser tracking at the same time.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
this game coming soon?
tuning54710 3 years ago
Currently this is just a tech demo. We are working on commercializing it eventually but plan to finish work on our Laser Missile Command game first.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
An Apple computer running a game!? This is a moment in technological history that I'll remember forever.
igob8a 3 years ago 8
lol
arandomJohn 3 years ago
I've seen this before... but I was thinking about it in my head, and if Nintendo, or anyone else was going to market it, they would probably use the sensor in the wii remote.
BlindBanditStudios 3 years ago
Yeah, if Nintendo did it they would use two WiiMotes, one for head tracking and one for shooting. I only have one WiiMote, and my Mac can only connect to one anyhow, so I used the iSight to track the laser.
arandomJohn 3 years ago
Awesome, you should sell the idea to Nintendo and see what they do. I doubt they would use it though lol.
Captionboyboy 3 years ago
This is revolutionary technology. No offense, but you could please try just a little harder to not make a video about it that completely sucks?
etrianodyssey2 3 years ago
Sorry, I'm spending time on my day job and on hacking up this game, not on making videos that don't suck. It gets the idea across and shows you how the game works, so it does what it needs to do, right? What do you want, a soundtrack?
arandomJohn 3 years ago
YES!!! opera music
etrianodyssey2 3 years ago
I don't have any!
arandomJohn 3 years ago
Oh god it's marshie
zzzdude9 3 years ago
Yes, and in the future I hope to make him a proper cylinder.
arandomJohn 3 years ago