@ellicor231 I'm pretty sure the novel version of Turn A and maybe Novel Unicorn, after Laprace's Box was opened, would give 00 Quant a run for its money.
I'll settle this debate now. Kira can't kill Setsuna. He doen not have the will to do it. So he won't. Setsuna won't have a problem doing it and he can one up anything that Kira pulls out from Trans Am, Trans Am Burst, Trans Am Raiser, Quantization and his Quantum Brain Waves. Setsuna has more in his arsenal than Kira does.
@donnyp1026 This video was made over 3 years ago when I was still in high school and when I had a serious hatred towards Kira and his strike freedom. Now I'm not so harsh to them as I used to be but I still hate them.
in all honesty i like strike freedom because i actually know how its power source WORKS, and is the one that make most sense to me in terms of its physics, unlike a mecha that can just start floating upwards with an abnormal sense of acceleration
@cheenadengin GN Drive Mechanics are described extremely well including schematics for the drive and the individual components, not to mention the fact that the physics principle and theory is something that actualy has a theory backing in modern science, even the Quantization effect is something that modern science describes as one of it's theories.
@627Dante no shit sherlock cuz the gn particles is the engines power thats like saying the strike freedom depends to much on its nuclear reactor of course they both do cuz those are thier engines
@trichrono Im talking about gn particles, not about their engines. 00 series of gundam depends on gn too much, they keep on using the gn to shield themselves up, uses gn for trans-arm. nuclear reactor engines just give s freedom a infinity energy usage, beside that there is no other special effect and gn drives also have the same function, so is a fair in this. let me ask you, if s freedom have the same gn drive for its engine, did u think 00 can stand a chance here?
@627Dante oblivously yes because if the strike freedom did use gn engine it wouldnt be able to use trans am like the orginal gn drive and the strike freedom use nuclear raectors to power its shield too so wat about its still their power source another thing kira cant use gn particles to its full potential like setsuna cuz he is an innovator and the gn particles are meant to transmit his conciousness thats why he can quantize no one else can so strike would still lose
@trichrono Lets say no gn shit in these gundams, jt nuclear reactor, i dont think 00 can win, i mean look at 00, it took too many damage at the end during the fight with ribbons, but did s freedom took any damge during the whole story? no even a single scratch. stop mentioning about gn particles, eventhough 00 did really defeat s freedom, but the credit should go to the gn particles not 00 itself, how bout a fight without gn particles? think about that
@627Dante well ofc he did setsuna is a believeable character seed destiny was a fanservice show that made kira and overrated pilot he was made out to be a god even though all he really fought was zakus and the legend and he mind fucked the poor guy cuz he was panicing all in all he never faced any gundam or decent pilot really how can one gundam face so many units without a scratch infact kira got worse skills in the s freedom than the strike for more reasons than one setsuna beena fighter 4ever
@trichrono oh please, how many time did setsuna damaged his gundam? taking bout better pilot? setsuna even loses to ali when ali was piloting spider like MA and got electrodes by ali. if nina wasnt there to help, setsuna will be a dead man and all the time setsuna was fighting against MS that was powered by normal generators not gn drives, thats why it looks like he was very good at fighting, because all the he was pwning noobs ms, not gundam. graham can be even better thn seiei
@627Dante that was when setsuna wasnt as experience and was caught off guard and u know wat ali is a hell of alot better pilot than kira yamato hell even graham acre is a better pilot there isnt a shame in taking a few knocks from good pilots infact acres flag was heavily modified to match the gundams performance but ofc u left that out and the spider thing was the armies most advance mobile armor they are all aces hell kira was on the strike was alot more believe than on the strike freedom
@trichrono how about rau? he was an ace pilot too, but kira took care od his at the end, it a shame when you say setsuna was a better pilot when he cant even win against ali
@627Dante and no setsuna would defeat the strike even if it ran on nuclear reactors cuz it would still have 2 reactors like it should it also has superior wings and mobility and its capable of forming a shield along with the fact that innovators are better than coordinators due to thier abilities to read mind and physically they are on even ground and reflex wise setsuna is better being that he actually fought outside a gundam unlike some pilots kira setsuna will pick up a gun kira wont
@trichrono double reactor doesnt mean it is better, and get that right, 00 needs 0 raiser in order to perform trans-arms or better performance, s freedom would ass rape setsuna before 0 raiser and 00 have docked together and all the time kira didnt aim at the pilot seat is because he didnt want to kill livings, if kira always aims at the pilot seat, 00 can go shit in no time
@627Dante every single mobile suit in 00 season 2 had power equal to or greater than a normal gundam like arios or cherubim infact the rebirth gundam ribbons gundam was equal too in power to the 00 raiser even acre was equal to 00 gundam they even all had trans am but the one difference setsuna the true innovator and the skill of the miesters setsuna couldnt even beat lock on stratos and i mean season 1 lock on stratos he was a better ranger than a beam spammer cuz he actually aims
@trichrono dont give too much excuses for 00 for taking too many damage while battling against ribbonz, the fact is 00 was destroyed at last and that is the truth
@627Dante u just dont wanna hea it cuz its true setsuna fought a worthy opponent a strong opponent and he came out a bit banged up but wat kira never fought a single worthy opponent other than once and got his ass beat ya wat now i went there
@trichrono all setsuna can win is because gn particle and not by 00 and his skill itself, look at the movie, setsuna didnt even have any real fight during the movie, all he can do is keep having heache and another thing, 00 can quantilize, hahaha, that was the most unlogic part of the entire gundam series and even setsuna can quantilize, it was the help of gn, not he skill, setsuna can win a battle is because of gn was working behind, nuff saying
@627Dante have u seen turn A gundam it fricken warps beams to mobile suits cockpit secondly in the movie he beat a gn powered suit with an unmodified flag ya a flag wat has kira used other than a gundam fuckign nothing he cant be out of a gundam cuz he sucks also he had headaches cuz connecting witht the collective conciousness of a hivemind with billions of years of knowledge overpowered his thought process jsut living through that is a show of determination cuz it kills computers ot do that
@trichrono kira destroyed more gundam thn setsuna, in fact, when setsuna using a flag, he pops smoke for making the enermy blur and cannot detect setsuna, collective conciousness? my ass, all setsuna do was headache and headache, with gn particles, setsuna can go headache for the rest of his life, because without gn, he cant contact with alien
@627Dante ya beaming spamming zakus that dont know how to dodge and reusing animations and no he hasnt obviously u havent seen how many units setsuna as killed with the raiser sword and in the quantam its way mroe than kira can ever hope to and all the ace pilots that setsuna fought have more skill than all of kiras zaku opponents and any ace pilot he faced also gn particles heal ppl for ur info well not the red oneand setsuna can sense ppls emotions without gn particle but u wouldnt know that
@trichrono hah, sense and healing people, how fucking unlogic is this. i think 00 series are the most unlogic series throughout the whole gundam series. ok, i accept the appearance of gn particles, but wait a sec, 1st you can quantilize the whole fucking gundam and dissapear, 2nd using gn to particles to heal people and senses people, 3rd is the present of the alien, i mean wtf? aliens? hahaha, thats the most ridiculous thing in gundam series.
@627Dante no it went into an orginal direction with the aliens also if u werent so scientifically backwards ud know that in real life particles and magnetic waves can be used to heal ppl hence the inspiration for gn particles also brain waves and thoughts are transmitted via brain waves which are also particles making touching other ppls conciousness via particles possible and the bases for many psychic abilities that allow the thoughts to interact with the physical
@trichrono eventhough it does heal people, you know how fucking long time does it take? in the series, it just take few minutes. 2nd physical abilities? its more like paranormal abilities, how would you contact with one another just through mind? its like supernatural not physical and aliens? hahaha!! i think the director of script writer have finish off their thoughts for making the series itself and put a shitty alien to replace as the enermy in the movie.
@627Dante umm no the aliens where mentioned since the beginning of the show and dumb ass brain waves travel and can be picked up but other searching with the right tech so communication with 2 conciousness is extremely likely in the future in fact alot of ppl can do it without technology its everywhere he even the government use remote viewing also the reason the guy healed so fast is cuz it just cured the red gn poisoning its not like he had a bullet hole in him
@trichrono what? it was mention in the beginning of the movie? omg, it was more ridiculous thn i thought and dumb ass brain waves did travel to others, but is under some circumstances, not by activating some shitty gn field and you can eventually "talk" to each other.
@627Dante no the aliens where mention from the beginning of the show when they mentioned aiolia plans they mentioned the coming of vistors beyond the belt or something also in the future it can be done by activating some gn field or device also setsuna already has that ability all the gn particles do is amplify his ability and also him to act as a rely between everyone around him so all their conciousness will be connected which is possible if the gn drive is not far from being real someday
@trichrono that is more and more and more ridiculous!! OMFG, the director or script writer had their brain used up, they cant provide a good reason for the creation of the gn, so they puts up alien for they shitty reasoning job and what did you say again? gn drive is not far for being real? boy, you have watch too much and addicted to gundam 00, get a new life dude.
@627Dante listen cuz i am not some jesus yamato cultist and my favorite gundam is 08th MS team and shiro from that show is my favorite pilot and just cuz ur to dumb to know that from science class cuz some of us payed attention doesnt mean i am addicted to 00 i just recognize the science behind it also the fact that aliens were mentioned since the beginning means this show was planned from the start not like seed destiny crap also the gn particles did have a reason for being made
@trichrono you are not jesus yamato cultist, but a god setsuna cultist and my favor was justice, it had a reason but not as ridiculous for using alien, asshole.
@627Dante wats wrong with using aliens u dont believe in aliens i assume in other words u are an idiot there is nothing wrong with that infact gundam seed destiny had aliens too didnt u know ofc u didnt cuz ur to busy worshipping kira yamato fan service moves alien was perfectly fit in their and was used as an reinforcer for the message of peace it was well executed and was planned out way ahead of the beginning which seed destiny wasnt they pulled the episodes from the garbage each day
@trichrono wer the fuck did seed series mentioned alien? dont put your stupid 00 plot into sd, it will only make yourself looks more dumb. i did not workship kira just like you workship setsuna, in all expect, i still think s freedom wins 00 in the term of the gundam itself, pilot and the skill, shit holes
@627Dante umm dont u remember that giant alien fossil they found on mars cuz if u didnt ur not a good at thinking or watching or listening which makes sense since ur so unaware of the 00 plot and message and are so close minded
@627Dante gn drives were made becuase the gn particles were meant to help expand the human conciousness in order to to stop war in other words for ur simple brain they were made to help humans evovle into innovators cuz if everyone could connect thier conciousness there would be alot more understanding therefore decreasing war till it was completely gone and setsuna join the ELS(aliens) so he can bridge them and start understanding so that the fighting would end genious message u idiot
@trichrono i did not say there is any problem within the gn particles, i was saying the reason for its appearance and the fucking ability within itself. if it was using for normal beam blocking or trans-ams then is ok, but for using it in comunication with the alien and healing? that was too unlogic and lastly setsuna goes into the alien world and turn the hive mind into a flower shape? wtf is that possible? is more like a god setsuna sacrifice hiself for saving the world u pig headed
@627Dante no ur the pig head setsuna was a rely a embassador we have those even now in real life the flower shape was the thought setsuna had inorder to start the process of understand thanks to the queen and the ELS turned into that shape as a white flag to show the humans that they wanted to co exsist the only reason they assimilated ppl in the first place was to learn more about them and setsuna willing gave them everything they needed setsuna did wat any person should for his ppl
@trichrono this is more like an act of god and the last thing is, when setsuna meets marina, his body turned grey and like hlf of the alien, it doesnt make sense, no wonder you workshipped him so much.
@627Dante umm did u not notice the ELS assimilating ppl in the beginning of the movie they didnt fully turn ELS cuz those ppl resisted the assimilation so they ended up in a coccoon state setsuna didnt so he was fully assimilated and no setsuna followed wat he believed in to the end he wanted to end war and thats to show that every can have an impact in the future maybe instead of bitching and going duur duur this is confusing and hurts my head u should stop to think of wat this symbolism means
@ThatYellaGuy It's probably far more powerfull then Turn A. 50 years in deep space fighting whatever threat space can throw Setsuna's way. Not to mention the fact that ELS have knowledge of all the races they assilimated. Adding the 'intention' and 'reasoning' of an Innovator, case oriented pilot and you have a perfect match for the nearly infinite data bank storage that ELS 00 Quan[T] is and a pilot that can use all of it to his disposal.
ELS Qant has the ability to simultaneously deploy the GN Blade Bits (which have been upgraded to a total of 7) in addition to inheriting the abilities of the standard ELS MS (The ability form weapons from existing parts). It actually weaponizes a technical suit because the Qant no longer has to shed its armor to Warp and smooths over many of the technical issues. In other words, it got better. Unlike the standard MSs, ELS MSs can change between purposes with no adjustments.
@Machdude ELS Quan[T] features 8 visible GN Bits and 3 large ones that form it's backpack. It does not need to deploy them to Quantize over large distances (which basicaly means Quantization without T-A at will at any time). As you said, it can basicaly form any kind of weapon the unit has a data on or came in contact with so it's safe to assume that it at least features Quan[T] standard weaponry and whatever technology Setsuna gained in deep space during those 50 years
@Machdude So it's basicaly the most adaptable, flexible, untouchable unit in all of Gundam... let alone it's performance which probably tops everything that was created up untill now.
@627Dante obviously someone hasnt been the UC era of gundam they do the same thing so wats the problem now u just mad cuz u know the 00 raiser would be the strike freedom well they dont do the healing but its all really does make sense every heard of psychic healing or mind over matter ever seen a monk put a sharp spear to his throat just to apply pressure to it and it wont pierce particles and the human conciousness can do alot more than u think and if u combine them u get a miracle
@627Dante in all honesty the strike freedom is a downgraded freedom why cuz those fan service wings serve no purpose cuz kira never use them except to pose those dragoons dont work in earth gravity and they have to come back to recharge also the dragoons block the fan service wings when they arent deployed making this gundam fail because that is bad mobile suit design cuz u cant use the wings for more than a couple a minute when the dragoons return or on earth
@trichrono although s freedom didnt uses dragoon inside the earth atmosphere, but there is no official state that s freedom dragoon cnnt operate within the atmosphere, beside, s freedom only appears to have a short battle within the earth atmosphere and who the hell told you that the dragoon need to be recharged after return to it wings? it can be deploy at anytime withput recharged.
@627Dante each one of nu gundams funnels had a nuclear reactor in it hell even the shield bits and fangs in 00 had mini gn drive in them so they can be used in earths gravity hell they can even fight underwater the freedom and strike freedom cant do that
@627Dante ....dude have you ever heard of UNDERWATER MS's? the gundams in CE are useless under water, where as every other gundam series has them made for all purposes,
.....Looking at this I can't but say that everthing is reg for setsuna. In skill wise Kira is a better pilot, in the mecha themsevels the same but one kills and one lets live. Setsuna can only win a match against an ace pilot with trans-am with out it he sucks. I've seen the 00 movie and quite frankly it sucks and drags ass alot same goes for sd as well. All an all this is a terrible video.
i liked seed(destiny sucked ass though) but i have to say, the 00 Raiser will beat teh shit out of kira and the strike freedom, and then setsuna would go kill athrun in the justice just for kicks
If the 00 Raiser can beat Strike Freedom, I'd hate to see it against the 00 Qan [T]. It took Kira two major Gundam transformations while Setsuna only needed one. Still the 00 Qan [T] would assrape it since 1. It had a direct link to Veda and 2. Was made to defeat an entire alien army.
why dont you just read the gundam wiki of setsuna??ahahahahhaha!!!
it says that setsuna suffered his ultimate fate and Became IMMORTAL.. and he will continue to watch over humanity for his eternal quest for mutual understanding...ahahahahhahaha!!!! well, GS and GSD fans??
@naathaan13 i disagree ribbons was only on one fight setsuna doesnt need ribbons just needs the best sniper out their lock on stratos to watch his back lock on stratos puts kira to shame he actually aims and he beam spams right
@naathaan13 lol u dont know wat ur talking about celestial beings scientist gave setsuna the original GN drives ribbons was just a test pilot he may have just recommended setsuna but he didnt give him the skills or the exia that was decided by the higher ups
@naathaan13 id i remember right ribbons sent ppl to steal the gn drive plans from which the suedo gn drives were created from and where they got evil haro which is one of the best characters next to good haro that was part of the most moving scenes in the show
@trichrono not that one, its even before that. The jupiter plan, that ribbons was on, is the plan to create the first 5 GN drives, which are for 0 gundam, Exia, Arios, Dynames, Virtue
@naathaan13 he was part of the scientist team but that just means he helped and he still didnt give setsuna the gn drive cuz he didnt make it specifically for him
@trichrono he was the head of the team. the one in 0 gundam was for ribbons, and setsuna or rather celestial being took the 0 gundam and the GN drive. and that GN drive is on 00 raiser left side, without that, 00 gundam wouldn't work
@naathaan13 that was Sky Eclipse a Ribbons Type Innovade. Ribbons Sky and Leif are all the Innovades Created By using the Basis and DNA of a Person Named E.A Ray
(The Person Talking with the Guy in the Computer in the End of the 00 Gundam Movie)
On the contrary, Setsuna fought astonishing number of Ace pilots, evened out or won in helpless situations, used tactics, formations and most importantly evolved into the pilot we see in the movie - one that can defeat 3x Orbital Defense GNXs in a Flag... it's like defeating 3x V2 Gundams in an RX-78.
And let's not even compare their units. Shopping cart can't be compared to Nissan GTR after all.
kira and the freedom would definitely destroy setsuna and his 00 raiser, if only he wasn't such a pacifist, that right there would give setsuna the edge! don't get me wrong i LOVE BOTH SHOWS, Im just considering the facts, kira would win because he's a super human or as you all know "THE ULTIMATE CUORDINATOR!!!" but like i said he's a pacifist, setsuna would just keep coming even if his raiser is heavily damaged and unlike kira HE KILLS!! But thats just my opinion though, what do you all think?
@nissader15 Even if Kira were to kill he would not beat Setsuna and 00 raiser. 00 Raiser is a much more powerful machine than Strike Freedom and in almost every aspect of combat its better(speed,power,close combat,mid range and somewhat long range) and as good of a pilot Kira is he just can't over come that kind of handicap.
Now if Kira had Reborn's Gundam it would be a different story as to who would win
@nissader15 'Ultimate Coordinator' tag does not enable you instant win or give you overpowering skills, on the contrary to the broken Seed Destiny mechanics and plot armors.
Kira lacks as a pilot quite a lot. I wouldn't even pick him for the top 10 gundam pilots list. His fighting shows no tactics, he does same attacks over and over, predicable. He is skilled at shooting and dodging but that only makes him half a decent pilot.
i hate kira lovers, i hate setsuna lovers, they're gay, I AM A FAN OF BOTH, SO IM NOT GAY LIKE ALL YOU SETSUNA/KIRA LOVERS, WHO HATES I WHEN EITHER KIRA OR SETSUNA LOSE
Shit I hate about this is, you could classify all protagonists as having plot armour, the writes decide not to put them in that CLEARLY dangerous scenario then yea they got plot armour, think about the realism in these universes, no way for example setsuna is surviving MANY situations, your all haters of well nothing... its a show that address real life issue, just enjoy it FFS instead of whining, personally I could really relate to both kira and setsuna, loved both shows, GROW UP HATERS
PS to all kira bitchers, kira survives athruns self destruction, not unreasonable, athrun is in a pilots uniform only AND by shown evidence not too far from his MS when destroyed, kira in a FULLY phased shift (designed AS PLOT STATED to repel physical attacks) armoured unit with only a small tear in chest, could arguably help prevent explosive force with maybe some flames going into the opening on the chest, and you have to expect the pilot armours take more of a beating than some fire........
considering athruns state of health after the explosion ON TOP OF THAT he's greatest built human ever to exist in this universe so yea a lil tougher than your average plot character, in regards to Shinns beating, not hard to explain, clearly shown the reactor is turned off, he's a MUCH more experienced pilot at this point in the plot wit much better reaction times, shinns shown to loose several times and in that fight SHOULD have been finished off but gets a new silhouette, so hes not better.
the writers CLEARLY had this intention the whole time as there is no mention of its unique aspect after this plot twist occurs, any other mobile suit or a removal of its ONLY unique component then shinn gets shot down, the impulse is barely any better than a gouf, and to theorise that shinn cant beat him in the destiny, kira hardly overwhelms him just manages to use his experience better, remember they both have epic machines but the new freedom is considered more mobile.........
@wawaticook are you serious you do understand that he isnt a gundam pilot and is disqualified lol. Setsuna doesnt suck kira he does but Suzaku really?? why is he better than them
@panthernaruto this Code Geass fan thinks that since Nightmare Frames are smaller, they can win with speed alone, yet they don't understand the destructiblity of a mobile suit. But you know what's funny Panthernaruto? NF's can't be used in space, have a limited energy supply from their powersources and don't have any remote weapons. LOL!
@frozenhiphop09 haha dude, i never knew we were comparing mechs, if we look back at the question, Who is your favorite pilot then? Speciifly asking me my favorite pilot and not to judge which Gundam is stronger. Read other post carefully before saying crap.
@wawaticook and let me remind you that this is a gundam video. you also fail to see that my comment means that your trying to turn this into a gundam v. CG debate. nevertheless, disregarding my other comment, keep code geass to yourself when on a gundam video.
@frozenhiphop09 Lol dude you seriously need to reread all the previous comments. I was asked which pilot is my favorite, i merely am anwsering the question. Does answering Suzaku Kururugi looks like someway to spark debates between both series? the answer is no. And i did keep Code Geass to myself until i was asked a question where the anwser lies on the series. And yet again, i suggest you to reread the previous comments or is it too hard for you?
@wawaticook and that "SUZAKU KURURUGI" comment is all I need to see that your covering up the thought that you want to turn this into a CG debate. Let the games begin ya maple chugger!.
@frozenhiphop09 Seriously dude you are overthinking things. YOU may think that it's turning into a debate, but not the others. I never said he is a better pilot objectively. Yet again, look at the previous comments, ''I think i prefer him because he's a bit in the middle of those two pilots." Proving exactly that i'm not forcing the others to approve what i am saying. Furthermore, if you could see what i am thinking, you would be ''winning'' this argument. I advise you to stop arguing and moveon
@wawaticook ROFLCOPTER! looks like you drank too much syrup today. It seems i'm making you angry. having sex with too much beavers will get you sick. LOL!
@frozenhiphop09 Between you and me we can clearly see who has gone desperate and mad. Your own words are shooting yourself on the foot. Furthermore, What does it change if i'm american or not, insults won't help your cause in anyways since it's already done for. Sigh, talking to you further will be a waste of time.
@panthernaruto In terms of pilot, suzaku is preferable because he is not as a whiner as kira. yet not as stiff as Setsuna is (look at him and feldt, who is also obsessed with Gundam LOL). I think i prefer him because he's a bit in the middle of those two pilots.
@wawaticook Kira is a whiner you wont get an argument from me about that. Setsuna sees gundam as a way to end the wars that he hates, he says gundam a lot less in 2nd season. Suzaku is too soft to me
And then the Turn A gundam uses the mmonlight butterfly to kill them both and we all go home. 00raiser wins as setsuna is a better pilot and has a better machine
And also I'm not the best strike freedom as the best Gundam I prefer Gundam death scythe hell, I do not Asnfe also a force of strike freedom, because I know the capacity of Gandam
@KyosukeDowin So everything that you have just say is in no way proving me wrong its just random babbling. The fact the 00raiser is more powerful than Strike Freedom is just common sense
Well why would you prefer to control once you hit 00raiser and by the way Strike Freedom did not receive damage from all the battles he fought, while a full 00raiser crash breaks when faced Rebonz
@KyosukeDowin Nothing that you said made sense,also Strike Freedom when it was shown did not fight a mobile suit that was on par with one on one. Strike Freedom is not even in the same league as 00raiser and would be destroyed if it had to face the Gundams in the 00 series.
@KyosukeDowin Again you are talking nonsense because a video game does not prove who is stronger or even who is in the same league because if that were true Broly would be able to go toe to toe with Gogeta.
Your ramblings are getting you nowhere because if painfully obvious that 00raiser is more powerful than Strike Freedom
I think both of them are cheaters....kira with the aimbot beam spam of dragoons and life hack with limitless energy source while setsuna has speedhack(trans-am) and warp hack(quantization). And both of them have god mode (plot armor) which makes them unkillable in the series.
Can u guys stop making this type of vid because its so fake and stupid.... They are both from different Gundam Universe but u still put it together..... Its not only bias but its lame....
as for suits strike freedom is a better suit. most peoples only defence for 00 is trans-am. kira is a good pilot and had shown traits of a newtype (dont believe me google it) he is capable of keeping up with trans-am until it wears out, at which the 00 would be running at less than 50% of its capabilities
@DeathGrinMK1 I,ve seen seed seed destiny and 00 and nothing implies that it can keep up when 00 goes trans-am (give me something that says otherwise). Strike freedom isnt really better strike freedom is long range gundam will 00-raiser is close range they accel at different things. Kira to me is the worst gundam pilot not named Loran and setsuna has more battle experience
@panthernaruto in space when it releases its DRAGOONS it can enter its full thruster capabilities (full burst/HiMat system) & yes strike freedom is a far-medium range suit but its manuvarability makes it capable at close range, dont get me wrong it isnt better at close range than 00 and key words Kira to YOU, thats your own opinion, im not one of those kira cock suckers but i denfend pilots when i feel just, with its range SF should be able to hold trans am, plus SF had unlimited energy(ms&suit)
@DeathGrinMK1 *Defend *(ms&weapons) : i say that because UC ms had Minovsky particles that let them run with no time limit but the weapons had charged packs so where not
SF had both MS unlimited energy and weapom unlimited energy
@DeathGrinMK1 continued 00 is capable of mid range although sf clearly has the advantage in that regard one of the few issues i have with the 00 show is they did a bad job in explaining what an innovator can do. it would appear kira has the advantage there cause coordinators are similar to newtypes and in the gundam universe newtypes are like god then you have the teleport of 00 which kira wont see coming. All im saying is kira would lose a lot of people say kira wins cause sf pwns.
@panthernaruto being a innovator was more of an outside of combat thing like in the movie (which i heard was shit and unfitting of the gundam universe) where its used to communicate with other beings, but it shold have given him some type of combat advantage kira is the ult coordinator blah blah. he lacks training so is nowhere hear his full potential as a soilder while setsuna is already hardened by war
if it were two exact same pilots in both suits i would give it to 00 but if not then SF
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah i heard the movie was bad and that the only good thing about it was quan[t] but my thing with kira is he was just given all of this stuff just because he was the main character if you want to give him seed mode thats fine but dont give to cagaill who is a natural. But the whole innovator thing i hope the creator says something to specify and give more depth to the innovator idea, it started off good but then got lilttle explanation in the show
give him all this unrefined ability and power, that he himself was unaware of until he stepped into a mobile suit, kind of like a sleeper soilder. my main problem is that the creators got lazy and didn't want to show him using real shooting skill (cuz u know he's a amuro clone) so they gave him SF and showed him taking out armies in own fell swoop as if they wanted the suit to look good and not the pilot = a weak character and strong MS
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah i know seed was basicly a modern clone of the original gundam series that is my main issue with kira and seed in general its like the creator said we wont necessarily make the characters better pilots just give them better machines and im like wow with setsuna at the beginning he was a horrible shot in exia then he got better although far from great. What is your favorite series if you dont mind my asking
@panthernaruto mine would be i tie between gundam x and zeta gundam, i like most of the rest but for some reason i enjoyed those the most, do you agree or do u fancy another series
@DeathGrinMK1 you liked gundam X ?? i thought i was the only one. But i would have to put ZZ over zeta as a personal preference. I heard 0083 was good as well although i havent watched it. Unicorn is catching my eye it seems really good. The only one i can say that i didnt like was SEED cause i didnt fell like there was any character progression and at the end they just started killing people
@panthernaruto i could never finish zz gundam because it felt like they were just tossing away kamille and he is one of my fav characters, judau and his gang of newtypes arn't bad but they even gave him kamille's title as strongest newtype (by default, he still has the most potential), im not dissin the series tho i know its good. stardust memory is good and i know exactly what your talking about in seed
@DeathGrinMK1 stardust memory?? that sounds like a good one i may have to check that one out. Is victory any good i heard good things about it. But kamille was mentally unstable although what he did in the zeta gundam was amazing and even though zeta gundam was second in the timeline it set the pace and made the gundam franchise as popular as it is today
@DeathGrinMK1 I go back to the fact setsuna has had actual combat training while in a terrorist group while kira had none except in the series which gives setsuna the advantage in terms of battle experience both gundams have an infinte power source. 00 has more manuvarability because it is a close range gundam sf can aviod to not be as mobile because its long range kira was given too much just because he was main character and w/ the raiser system 00
@panthernaruto setsuna's combat experence would be shown and plus he had experence with all direction attacks berfore (GN fangs) but like i said kira has had newtype flashes before, if he can just sense out trans am then he would have a great advantage and would most likly win
its a kill or be killed situation, setsuna rivals kira in ability, but he has alot more experence with war
but if he waste trans am then he screws himself, if he doesn't he wins 00 vs SF = depends on pilots
@DeathGrinMK1 SF is superior to the GN fangs although similar i agree that setsuna is equal to pilot skills and ultimately its up to the creators to decide cause kira may get seed mode v2 for all we know one day LOL. It seems that the battle will be decided on how well kira is at defending trans-am although i think that is what puts 00 over the top as a better machine. Then again kira's a newtype like pilot we both know newtypes run the gundam universe
@panthernaruto my only problem with trans am, is that 00 runs on less than 50% after using it
its both realistic and unrealistic if you get what i mean; near unlimited energy but 5 min in a special mode leaves you near defenceless? SF doesn't really have any modes except for full burst and all that does is let it use all of its thrusters and make the gold joint look good
seed mode v2 LOL, but your right, its up to who the creators like more
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah they did that with trans-am so that the gundams way to over powered. Its only like that until the trans-am full recharges tho which may too long of a wait with the beam spam of sf so like you said if kira can stay alive during trans-am he sf wins, if setsuna can catch kira enough off guard with it then setsuna wins. with all these char and amuro clones in other series i wonder when they will make a judau or kamille clone
@DeathGrinMK1 the closest thing i saw to judau was Rerrod from X although i like judau more i have to give credit not only to kamille but to zeta as a whole because although it was second it set the pace for the gundam universe
Could anybody tell me the song that plays, when Kira takes off?
Sobereignix 4 days ago
there's a movie in seed destiny coming up i sure hope the strike freedom gets an upgrade that would just look whip ass awsome
and strong
elai99 5 days ago
@elai99 there wont be a movie. look how long time its been inactive. + the director or writer or someone got cancer or something ive read.
GustaviusDeeva 3 days ago
the strike freedom would have ended the fight along time ago.
vmandv77 2 weeks ago
Strike Freedom is awesome, but can't keep up the 00 Raiser.
Slayerx49 3 weeks ago
@masterkent1 In other words Innovades are 1/10th of Ensign Amuro Ray's power.
ChaosZack08 4 weeks ago
@ellicor231 I'm pretty sure the novel version of Turn A and maybe Novel Unicorn, after Laprace's Box was opened, would give 00 Quant a run for its money.
ChaosZack08 4 weeks ago
I'll settle this debate now. Kira can't kill Setsuna. He doen not have the will to do it. So he won't. Setsuna won't have a problem doing it and he can one up anything that Kira pulls out from Trans Am, Trans Am Burst, Trans Am Raiser, Quantization and his Quantum Brain Waves. Setsuna has more in his arsenal than Kira does.
rasenganinfinity2000 1 month ago
Don't you think this is just a lil harsh on strike freedom? lol
donnyp1026 1 month ago
@donnyp1026 This video was made over 3 years ago when I was still in high school and when I had a serious hatred towards Kira and his strike freedom. Now I'm not so harsh to them as I used to be but I still hate them.
frozenhiphop09 1 month ago
@frozenhiphop09 what did kira ever do 2 u
impro4u 4 days ago
@impro4u Everything.
frozenhiphop09 4 days ago
@frozenhiphop09 my god. he raped u?
GustaviusDeeva 3 days ago
bodoh uruf trbalek
u are stupid
agulfe3 2 months ago
in all honesty i like strike freedom because i actually know how its power source WORKS, and is the one that make most sense to me in terms of its physics, unlike a mecha that can just start floating upwards with an abnormal sense of acceleration
cheenadengin 2 months ago
@cheenadengin GN Drive Mechanics are described extremely well including schematics for the drive and the individual components, not to mention the fact that the physics principle and theory is something that actualy has a theory backing in modern science, even the Quantization effect is something that modern science describes as one of it's theories.
ellicor231 2 months ago
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627Dante 2 months ago
00 owns all. It can quantize, 'nough said.
tejuban 2 months ago
Made by fan boy atleast the 00 couldn't beat the strike freedom only the freedom.
steveMCHS 3 months ago
Kira: Now activating gameshark...also busting out cheat book plot armor edition.
Gameshark activated . TIME TO CHEAT!!!!
KIRA YAMATO, FREEDOM, IKIMAS!!!
ROFLMAO
oOBionncazOo 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
damn! at last that is freedom gundam isn't strike freedom gundam - -
44SHW368 3 months ago
i like kira fighting style on his x10a-freedom. but the truth i want to say the gundam anime the best ending story is gundam 00.
90eskomando 3 months ago
R.I.P peoples who watched this in headphones >.<
Alancray126 3 months ago
Gundam 00 + Setsuna + Raiser + Trans - Am = Ultimate Gundam that is invulnerable hahahahaha
CBMechaCosplayGroup 3 months ago
00 gundam depends too much in gn particles, without them, they are shit!!
627Dante 4 months ago
@627Dante no shit sherlock cuz the gn particles is the engines power thats like saying the strike freedom depends to much on its nuclear reactor of course they both do cuz those are thier engines
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono Im talking about gn particles, not about their engines. 00 series of gundam depends on gn too much, they keep on using the gn to shield themselves up, uses gn for trans-arm. nuclear reactor engines just give s freedom a infinity energy usage, beside that there is no other special effect and gn drives also have the same function, so is a fair in this. let me ask you, if s freedom have the same gn drive for its engine, did u think 00 can stand a chance here?
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante oblivously yes because if the strike freedom did use gn engine it wouldnt be able to use trans am like the orginal gn drive and the strike freedom use nuclear raectors to power its shield too so wat about its still their power source another thing kira cant use gn particles to its full potential like setsuna cuz he is an innovator and the gn particles are meant to transmit his conciousness thats why he can quantize no one else can so strike would still lose
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono Lets say no gn shit in these gundams, jt nuclear reactor, i dont think 00 can win, i mean look at 00, it took too many damage at the end during the fight with ribbons, but did s freedom took any damge during the whole story? no even a single scratch. stop mentioning about gn particles, eventhough 00 did really defeat s freedom, but the credit should go to the gn particles not 00 itself, how bout a fight without gn particles? think about that
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante well ofc he did setsuna is a believeable character seed destiny was a fanservice show that made kira and overrated pilot he was made out to be a god even though all he really fought was zakus and the legend and he mind fucked the poor guy cuz he was panicing all in all he never faced any gundam or decent pilot really how can one gundam face so many units without a scratch infact kira got worse skills in the s freedom than the strike for more reasons than one setsuna beena fighter 4ever
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono oh please, how many time did setsuna damaged his gundam? taking bout better pilot? setsuna even loses to ali when ali was piloting spider like MA and got electrodes by ali. if nina wasnt there to help, setsuna will be a dead man and all the time setsuna was fighting against MS that was powered by normal generators not gn drives, thats why it looks like he was very good at fighting, because all the he was pwning noobs ms, not gundam. graham can be even better thn seiei
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante that was when setsuna wasnt as experience and was caught off guard and u know wat ali is a hell of alot better pilot than kira yamato hell even graham acre is a better pilot there isnt a shame in taking a few knocks from good pilots infact acres flag was heavily modified to match the gundams performance but ofc u left that out and the spider thing was the armies most advance mobile armor they are all aces hell kira was on the strike was alot more believe than on the strike freedom
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono how about rau? he was an ace pilot too, but kira took care od his at the end, it a shame when you say setsuna was a better pilot when he cant even win against ali
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante he did dude
masterkent1 1 month ago
@627Dante and no setsuna would defeat the strike even if it ran on nuclear reactors cuz it would still have 2 reactors like it should it also has superior wings and mobility and its capable of forming a shield along with the fact that innovators are better than coordinators due to thier abilities to read mind and physically they are on even ground and reflex wise setsuna is better being that he actually fought outside a gundam unlike some pilots kira setsuna will pick up a gun kira wont
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono double reactor doesnt mean it is better, and get that right, 00 needs 0 raiser in order to perform trans-arms or better performance, s freedom would ass rape setsuna before 0 raiser and 00 have docked together and all the time kira didnt aim at the pilot seat is because he didnt want to kill livings, if kira always aims at the pilot seat, 00 can go shit in no time
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante every single mobile suit in 00 season 2 had power equal to or greater than a normal gundam like arios or cherubim infact the rebirth gundam ribbons gundam was equal too in power to the 00 raiser even acre was equal to 00 gundam they even all had trans am but the one difference setsuna the true innovator and the skill of the miesters setsuna couldnt even beat lock on stratos and i mean season 1 lock on stratos he was a better ranger than a beam spammer cuz he actually aims
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono dont give too much excuses for 00 for taking too many damage while battling against ribbonz, the fact is 00 was destroyed at last and that is the truth
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante u just dont wanna hea it cuz its true setsuna fought a worthy opponent a strong opponent and he came out a bit banged up but wat kira never fought a single worthy opponent other than once and got his ass beat ya wat now i went there
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono all setsuna can win is because gn particle and not by 00 and his skill itself, look at the movie, setsuna didnt even have any real fight during the movie, all he can do is keep having heache and another thing, 00 can quantilize, hahaha, that was the most unlogic part of the entire gundam series and even setsuna can quantilize, it was the help of gn, not he skill, setsuna can win a battle is because of gn was working behind, nuff saying
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante have u seen turn A gundam it fricken warps beams to mobile suits cockpit secondly in the movie he beat a gn powered suit with an unmodified flag ya a flag wat has kira used other than a gundam fuckign nothing he cant be out of a gundam cuz he sucks also he had headaches cuz connecting witht the collective conciousness of a hivemind with billions of years of knowledge overpowered his thought process jsut living through that is a show of determination cuz it kills computers ot do that
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono kira destroyed more gundam thn setsuna, in fact, when setsuna using a flag, he pops smoke for making the enermy blur and cannot detect setsuna, collective conciousness? my ass, all setsuna do was headache and headache, with gn particles, setsuna can go headache for the rest of his life, because without gn, he cant contact with alien
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante ya beaming spamming zakus that dont know how to dodge and reusing animations and no he hasnt obviously u havent seen how many units setsuna as killed with the raiser sword and in the quantam its way mroe than kira can ever hope to and all the ace pilots that setsuna fought have more skill than all of kiras zaku opponents and any ace pilot he faced also gn particles heal ppl for ur info well not the red oneand setsuna can sense ppls emotions without gn particle but u wouldnt know that
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono hah, sense and healing people, how fucking unlogic is this. i think 00 series are the most unlogic series throughout the whole gundam series. ok, i accept the appearance of gn particles, but wait a sec, 1st you can quantilize the whole fucking gundam and dissapear, 2nd using gn to particles to heal people and senses people, 3rd is the present of the alien, i mean wtf? aliens? hahaha, thats the most ridiculous thing in gundam series.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante no it went into an orginal direction with the aliens also if u werent so scientifically backwards ud know that in real life particles and magnetic waves can be used to heal ppl hence the inspiration for gn particles also brain waves and thoughts are transmitted via brain waves which are also particles making touching other ppls conciousness via particles possible and the bases for many psychic abilities that allow the thoughts to interact with the physical
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono eventhough it does heal people, you know how fucking long time does it take? in the series, it just take few minutes. 2nd physical abilities? its more like paranormal abilities, how would you contact with one another just through mind? its like supernatural not physical and aliens? hahaha!! i think the director of script writer have finish off their thoughts for making the series itself and put a shitty alien to replace as the enermy in the movie.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante umm no the aliens where mentioned since the beginning of the show and dumb ass brain waves travel and can be picked up but other searching with the right tech so communication with 2 conciousness is extremely likely in the future in fact alot of ppl can do it without technology its everywhere he even the government use remote viewing also the reason the guy healed so fast is cuz it just cured the red gn poisoning its not like he had a bullet hole in him
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono what? it was mention in the beginning of the movie? omg, it was more ridiculous thn i thought and dumb ass brain waves did travel to others, but is under some circumstances, not by activating some shitty gn field and you can eventually "talk" to each other.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante no the aliens where mention from the beginning of the show when they mentioned aiolia plans they mentioned the coming of vistors beyond the belt or something also in the future it can be done by activating some gn field or device also setsuna already has that ability all the gn particles do is amplify his ability and also him to act as a rely between everyone around him so all their conciousness will be connected which is possible if the gn drive is not far from being real someday
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono that is more and more and more ridiculous!! OMFG, the director or script writer had their brain used up, they cant provide a good reason for the creation of the gn, so they puts up alien for they shitty reasoning job and what did you say again? gn drive is not far for being real? boy, you have watch too much and addicted to gundam 00, get a new life dude.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante listen cuz i am not some jesus yamato cultist and my favorite gundam is 08th MS team and shiro from that show is my favorite pilot and just cuz ur to dumb to know that from science class cuz some of us payed attention doesnt mean i am addicted to 00 i just recognize the science behind it also the fact that aliens were mentioned since the beginning means this show was planned from the start not like seed destiny crap also the gn particles did have a reason for being made
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono you are not jesus yamato cultist, but a god setsuna cultist and my favor was justice, it had a reason but not as ridiculous for using alien, asshole.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante wats wrong with using aliens u dont believe in aliens i assume in other words u are an idiot there is nothing wrong with that infact gundam seed destiny had aliens too didnt u know ofc u didnt cuz ur to busy worshipping kira yamato fan service moves alien was perfectly fit in their and was used as an reinforcer for the message of peace it was well executed and was planned out way ahead of the beginning which seed destiny wasnt they pulled the episodes from the garbage each day
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono wer the fuck did seed series mentioned alien? dont put your stupid 00 plot into sd, it will only make yourself looks more dumb. i did not workship kira just like you workship setsuna, in all expect, i still think s freedom wins 00 in the term of the gundam itself, pilot and the skill, shit holes
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante umm dont u remember that giant alien fossil they found on mars cuz if u didnt ur not a good at thinking or watching or listening which makes sense since ur so unaware of the 00 plot and message and are so close minded
trichrono 2 months ago
@627Dante gn drives were made becuase the gn particles were meant to help expand the human conciousness in order to to stop war in other words for ur simple brain they were made to help humans evovle into innovators cuz if everyone could connect thier conciousness there would be alot more understanding therefore decreasing war till it was completely gone and setsuna join the ELS(aliens) so he can bridge them and start understanding so that the fighting would end genious message u idiot
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono i did not say there is any problem within the gn particles, i was saying the reason for its appearance and the fucking ability within itself. if it was using for normal beam blocking or trans-ams then is ok, but for using it in comunication with the alien and healing? that was too unlogic and lastly setsuna goes into the alien world and turn the hive mind into a flower shape? wtf is that possible? is more like a god setsuna sacrifice hiself for saving the world u pig headed
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante no ur the pig head setsuna was a rely a embassador we have those even now in real life the flower shape was the thought setsuna had inorder to start the process of understand thanks to the queen and the ELS turned into that shape as a white flag to show the humans that they wanted to co exsist the only reason they assimilated ppl in the first place was to learn more about them and setsuna willing gave them everything they needed setsuna did wat any person should for his ppl
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono this is more like an act of god and the last thing is, when setsuna meets marina, his body turned grey and like hlf of the alien, it doesnt make sense, no wonder you workshipped him so much.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante umm did u not notice the ELS assimilating ppl in the beginning of the movie they didnt fully turn ELS cuz those ppl resisted the assimilation so they ended up in a coccoon state setsuna didnt so he was fully assimilated and no setsuna followed wat he believed in to the end he wanted to end war and thats to show that every can have an impact in the future maybe instead of bitching and going duur duur this is confusing and hurts my head u should stop to think of wat this symbolism means
trichrono 2 months ago
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@trichrono thanks for your explaination, eventhough what you say are true, i still think s freedom could win 00
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante Because Setsuna did become God. ELS 00 Quanta, IMO, probably matches the power of Turn A Gundam. Take that Seed Destiny faggots!
ThatYellaGuy 2 months ago
@ThatYellaGuy It's probably far more powerfull then Turn A. 50 years in deep space fighting whatever threat space can throw Setsuna's way. Not to mention the fact that ELS have knowledge of all the races they assilimated. Adding the 'intention' and 'reasoning' of an Innovator, case oriented pilot and you have a perfect match for the nearly infinite data bank storage that ELS 00 Quan[T] is and a pilot that can use all of it to his disposal.
ellicor231 1 month ago
@ellicor231 ....but the ELS 00Q doesn't have any weapons, he got rid of them all during warping.
omegashinobi 1 month ago
ELS Qant has the ability to simultaneously deploy the GN Blade Bits (which have been upgraded to a total of 7) in addition to inheriting the abilities of the standard ELS MS (The ability form weapons from existing parts). It actually weaponizes a technical suit because the Qant no longer has to shed its armor to Warp and smooths over many of the technical issues. In other words, it got better. Unlike the standard MSs, ELS MSs can change between purposes with no adjustments.
Machdude 1 month ago
@Machdude ELS Quan[T] features 8 visible GN Bits and 3 large ones that form it's backpack. It does not need to deploy them to Quantize over large distances (which basicaly means Quantization without T-A at will at any time). As you said, it can basicaly form any kind of weapon the unit has a data on or came in contact with so it's safe to assume that it at least features Quan[T] standard weaponry and whatever technology Setsuna gained in deep space during those 50 years
ellicor231 1 month ago
@Machdude So it's basicaly the most adaptable, flexible, untouchable unit in all of Gundam... let alone it's performance which probably tops everything that was created up untill now.
ellicor231 1 month ago
@627Dante obviously someone hasnt been the UC era of gundam they do the same thing so wats the problem now u just mad cuz u know the 00 raiser would be the strike freedom well they dont do the healing but its all really does make sense every heard of psychic healing or mind over matter ever seen a monk put a sharp spear to his throat just to apply pressure to it and it wont pierce particles and the human conciousness can do alot more than u think and if u combine them u get a miracle
trichrono 2 months ago
@627Dante in all honesty the strike freedom is a downgraded freedom why cuz those fan service wings serve no purpose cuz kira never use them except to pose those dragoons dont work in earth gravity and they have to come back to recharge also the dragoons block the fan service wings when they arent deployed making this gundam fail because that is bad mobile suit design cuz u cant use the wings for more than a couple a minute when the dragoons return or on earth
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono although s freedom didnt uses dragoon inside the earth atmosphere, but there is no official state that s freedom dragoon cnnt operate within the atmosphere, beside, s freedom only appears to have a short battle within the earth atmosphere and who the hell told you that the dragoon need to be recharged after return to it wings? it can be deploy at anytime withput recharged.
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante each one of nu gundams funnels had a nuclear reactor in it hell even the shield bits and fangs in 00 had mini gn drive in them so they can be used in earths gravity hell they can even fight underwater the freedom and strike freedom cant do that
trichrono 2 months ago
@trichrono hahaha, go underwater for what? because fleeing? what a cock sucker, running away from the fight and go hidden itself to the sea? LOL!!
627Dante 2 months ago
@627Dante ....dude have you ever heard of UNDERWATER MS's? the gundams in CE are useless under water, where as every other gundam series has them made for all purposes,
omegashinobi 1 month ago
@omegashinobi dude, i know, like abyss
627Dante 1 month ago
sorry but 00 would ass rape seed. Kira more skill ? hahahahahaHAHAHAHHAHAHA
MORE LIKE CHEAT SHEET.
that shit wont work against quantum brain wave.
prissweb 4 months ago
.....Looking at this I can't but say that everthing is reg for setsuna. In skill wise Kira is a better pilot, in the mecha themsevels the same but one kills and one lets live. Setsuna can only win a match against an ace pilot with trans-am with out it he sucks. I've seen the 00 movie and quite frankly it sucks and drags ass alot same goes for sd as well. All an all this is a terrible video.
providencelutsu 4 months ago 2
@providencelutsu at least setsuna is a little realistic than kira whose always hard to kill and almost invincible.
Jermaine0061 4 months ago
@providencelutsu I would like to see you state something like that in reality with a straight face, or do ou actualy believe what you are saying? lol
ellicor231 4 months ago
i liked seed(destiny sucked ass though) but i have to say, the 00 Raiser will beat teh shit out of kira and the strike freedom, and then setsuna would go kill athrun in the justice just for kicks
FarhanC99 4 months ago
kira would kicks setsuna ass
7184807 4 months ago
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7184807 4 months ago
If the 00 Raiser can beat Strike Freedom, I'd hate to see it against the 00 Qan [T]. It took Kira two major Gundam transformations while Setsuna only needed one. Still the 00 Qan [T] would assrape it since 1. It had a direct link to Veda and 2. Was made to defeat an entire alien army.
rasenganinfinity2000 4 months ago
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@rasenganinfinity2000
setsuna also had two transformation exia-00-0 raiser
7184807 4 months ago
why dont you just read the gundam wiki of setsuna??ahahahahhaha!!!
it says that setsuna suffered his ultimate fate and Became IMMORTAL.. and he will continue to watch over humanity for his eternal quest for mutual understanding...ahahahahhahaha!!!! well, GS and GSD fans??
portalzero6 5 months ago
@portalzero6 AFAIK it´s not fact, it´s just assumed. It was sadly never made clear by the producers.
StrikeFreedomV2 4 months ago
Kira: My beams have no effect
Setsuna: No your just gay
doesnt matter how much i see this it just cracks me up and honestly kira is nothing without his beams and that includes his beam saber.
trichrono 5 months ago
@trichrono and Setsuna is nothing without Ribbons
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 i disagree ribbons was only on one fight setsuna doesnt need ribbons just needs the best sniper out their lock on stratos to watch his back lock on stratos puts kira to shame he actually aims and he beam spams right
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono Ribbons is the person who nominated Setsuna to be a Gundam meister
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 but ribbons didnt give setsuna his skills did he
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono ribbons gave him the original GN Drive
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 lol u dont know wat ur talking about celestial beings scientist gave setsuna the original GN drives ribbons was just a test pilot he may have just recommended setsuna but he didnt give him the skills or the exia that was decided by the higher ups
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono ribbons was one of the scientist who was on the jupiter plan thing. you'll know if you watch the movie
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 id i remember right ribbons sent ppl to steal the gn drive plans from which the suedo gn drives were created from and where they got evil haro which is one of the best characters next to good haro that was part of the most moving scenes in the show
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono not that one, its even before that. The jupiter plan, that ribbons was on, is the plan to create the first 5 GN drives, which are for 0 gundam, Exia, Arios, Dynames, Virtue
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 he was part of the scientist team but that just means he helped and he still didnt give setsuna the gn drive cuz he didnt make it specifically for him
trichrono 3 months ago
@trichrono he was the head of the team. the one in 0 gundam was for ribbons, and setsuna or rather celestial being took the 0 gundam and the GN drive. and that GN drive is on 00 raiser left side, without that, 00 gundam wouldn't work
naathaan13 3 months ago
@naathaan13 like i said ribbons didnt give setsuna his skills
trichrono 3 months ago
@naathaan13 that was Sky Eclipse a Ribbons Type Innovade. Ribbons Sky and Leif are all the Innovades Created By using the Basis and DNA of a Person Named E.A Ray
(The Person Talking with the Guy in the Computer in the End of the 00 Gundam Movie)
masterkent1 1 month ago
On the contrary, Setsuna fought astonishing number of Ace pilots, evened out or won in helpless situations, used tactics, formations and most importantly evolved into the pilot we see in the movie - one that can defeat 3x Orbital Defense GNXs in a Flag... it's like defeating 3x V2 Gundams in an RX-78.
And let's not even compare their units. Shopping cart can't be compared to Nissan GTR after all.
ellicor231 5 months ago
kira and the freedom would definitely destroy setsuna and his 00 raiser, if only he wasn't such a pacifist, that right there would give setsuna the edge! don't get me wrong i LOVE BOTH SHOWS, Im just considering the facts, kira would win because he's a super human or as you all know "THE ULTIMATE CUORDINATOR!!!" but like i said he's a pacifist, setsuna would just keep coming even if his raiser is heavily damaged and unlike kira HE KILLS!! But thats just my opinion though, what do you all think?
nissader15 5 months ago
@nissader15 Even if Kira were to kill he would not beat Setsuna and 00 raiser. 00 Raiser is a much more powerful machine than Strike Freedom and in almost every aspect of combat its better(speed,power,close combat,mid range and somewhat long range) and as good of a pilot Kira is he just can't over come that kind of handicap.
Now if Kira had Reborn's Gundam it would be a different story as to who would win
eg6gsr 5 months ago
@nissader15 'Ultimate Coordinator' tag does not enable you instant win or give you overpowering skills, on the contrary to the broken Seed Destiny mechanics and plot armors.
Kira lacks as a pilot quite a lot. I wouldn't even pick him for the top 10 gundam pilots list. His fighting shows no tactics, he does same attacks over and over, predicable. He is skilled at shooting and dodging but that only makes him half a decent pilot.
ellicor231 5 months ago
i hate kira lovers, i hate setsuna lovers, they're gay, I AM A FAN OF BOTH, SO IM NOT GAY LIKE ALL YOU SETSUNA/KIRA LOVERS, WHO HATES I WHEN EITHER KIRA OR SETSUNA LOSE
GalacticCrafter 5 months ago
Shit I hate about this is, you could classify all protagonists as having plot armour, the writes decide not to put them in that CLEARLY dangerous scenario then yea they got plot armour, think about the realism in these universes, no way for example setsuna is surviving MANY situations, your all haters of well nothing... its a show that address real life issue, just enjoy it FFS instead of whining, personally I could really relate to both kira and setsuna, loved both shows, GROW UP HATERS
JoNNyCLOUD171 5 months ago
PS to all kira bitchers, kira survives athruns self destruction, not unreasonable, athrun is in a pilots uniform only AND by shown evidence not too far from his MS when destroyed, kira in a FULLY phased shift (designed AS PLOT STATED to repel physical attacks) armoured unit with only a small tear in chest, could arguably help prevent explosive force with maybe some flames going into the opening on the chest, and you have to expect the pilot armours take more of a beating than some fire........
JoNNyCLOUD171 5 months ago
considering athruns state of health after the explosion ON TOP OF THAT he's greatest built human ever to exist in this universe so yea a lil tougher than your average plot character, in regards to Shinns beating, not hard to explain, clearly shown the reactor is turned off, he's a MUCH more experienced pilot at this point in the plot wit much better reaction times, shinns shown to loose several times and in that fight SHOULD have been finished off but gets a new silhouette, so hes not better.
JoNNyCLOUD171 5 months ago
the writers CLEARLY had this intention the whole time as there is no mention of its unique aspect after this plot twist occurs, any other mobile suit or a removal of its ONLY unique component then shinn gets shot down, the impulse is barely any better than a gouf, and to theorise that shinn cant beat him in the destiny, kira hardly overwhelms him just manages to use his experience better, remember they both have epic machines but the new freedom is considered more mobile.........
JoNNyCLOUD171 5 months ago
Lol no yr just gay!
Jenivera 6 months ago
Unicorn owns both.
darxeth 6 months ago
Ok stop arguing all since they both suck xD
Setsuna: noob who uses commando
Kira: noob who uses Aimbot
wawaticook 6 months ago
@wawaticook who is your fav pilot then
panthernaruto 6 months ago
@panthernaruto Suzaku Kururugi
wawaticook 6 months ago
@wawaticook are you serious you do understand that he isnt a gundam pilot and is disqualified lol. Setsuna doesnt suck kira he does but Suzaku really?? why is he better than them
panthernaruto 6 months ago
@panthernaruto this Code Geass fan thinks that since Nightmare Frames are smaller, they can win with speed alone, yet they don't understand the destructiblity of a mobile suit. But you know what's funny Panthernaruto? NF's can't be used in space, have a limited energy supply from their powersources and don't have any remote weapons. LOL!
frozenhiphop09 6 months ago
@frozenhiphop09 haha dude, i never knew we were comparing mechs, if we look back at the question, Who is your favorite pilot then? Speciifly asking me my favorite pilot and not to judge which Gundam is stronger. Read other post carefully before saying crap.
wawaticook 6 months ago
@wawaticook and let me remind you that this is a gundam video. you also fail to see that my comment means that your trying to turn this into a gundam v. CG debate. nevertheless, disregarding my other comment, keep code geass to yourself when on a gundam video.
frozenhiphop09 5 months ago
@frozenhiphop09 Lol dude you seriously need to reread all the previous comments. I was asked which pilot is my favorite, i merely am anwsering the question. Does answering Suzaku Kururugi looks like someway to spark debates between both series? the answer is no. And i did keep Code Geass to myself until i was asked a question where the anwser lies on the series. And yet again, i suggest you to reread the previous comments or is it too hard for you?
wawaticook 5 months ago
@wawaticook and that "SUZAKU KURURUGI" comment is all I need to see that your covering up the thought that you want to turn this into a CG debate. Let the games begin ya maple chugger!.
frozenhiphop09 5 months ago
@frozenhiphop09 Seriously dude you are overthinking things. YOU may think that it's turning into a debate, but not the others. I never said he is a better pilot objectively. Yet again, look at the previous comments, ''I think i prefer him because he's a bit in the middle of those two pilots." Proving exactly that i'm not forcing the others to approve what i am saying. Furthermore, if you could see what i am thinking, you would be ''winning'' this argument. I advise you to stop arguing and moveon
wawaticook 5 months ago
@wawaticook ROFLCOPTER! looks like you drank too much syrup today. It seems i'm making you angry. having sex with too much beavers will get you sick. LOL!
frozenhiphop09 5 months ago
@wawaticook It seems I upset this american. LOL!don't have sex with too many beavers or you will get sick. ROFL!!!
frozenhiphop09 5 months ago
@frozenhiphop09 Between you and me we can clearly see who has gone desperate and mad. Your own words are shooting yourself on the foot. Furthermore, What does it change if i'm american or not, insults won't help your cause in anyways since it's already done for. Sigh, talking to you further will be a waste of time.
wawaticook 5 months ago
@wawaticook ROFL! angry beaver is angry. wasting time with his reply. you replied so your ARE wasting time, LOL!!!
frozenhiphop09 5 months ago
@panthernaruto In terms of pilot, suzaku is preferable because he is not as a whiner as kira. yet not as stiff as Setsuna is (look at him and feldt, who is also obsessed with Gundam LOL). I think i prefer him because he's a bit in the middle of those two pilots.
wawaticook 6 months ago
@wawaticook Kira is a whiner you wont get an argument from me about that. Setsuna sees gundam as a way to end the wars that he hates, he says gundam a lot less in 2nd season. Suzaku is too soft to me
panthernaruto 6 months ago
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wawaticook 6 months ago
who would win wing zero or 00
Havok5704 6 months ago
@Havok5704 00
eg6gsr 6 months ago
I hate 00 especially setsuna because always says GUUUUNNNDAMMMM!!!!!!!
Havok5704 6 months ago
And then the Turn A gundam uses the mmonlight butterfly to kill them both and we all go home. 00raiser wins as setsuna is a better pilot and has a better machine
panthernaruto 6 months ago
I Love setsuna and kira both.....
i don't prefer anyone, so please everyone...., stop arguing...!ne~?
spacegirls16 6 months ago
@ellicor231
Go and see this game Musso Gundam and compare Gundam 00 and Strike Freedom
And will know the difference of forceI know you are doing this because you love Gundam 00
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
@KyosukeDowin Are you really saying that he/she should look to a video game to show which will win this fight.
I don't care how much you like Kira or Strike Freedom 00Raiser is to much of a machine for Strike Freedom to win this battle
eg6gsr 7 months ago
@eg6gsr
You do not understand anything
And This is because you make your favorite hero is the strongest
I do not compare in terms of my favorite piece or the like I compare what I saw of the games and soap operas and weapons to the Gandam
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
@eg6gsr
And also I'm not the best strike freedom as the best Gundam I prefer Gundam death scythe hell, I do not Asnfe also a force of strike freedom, because I know the capacity of Gandam
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
@KyosukeDowin So everything that you have just say is in no way proving me wrong its just random babbling. The fact the 00raiser is more powerful than Strike Freedom is just common sense
eg6gsr 7 months ago
@eg6gsr
Well why would you prefer to control once you hit 00raiser and by the way Strike Freedom did not receive damage from all the battles he fought, while a full 00raiser crash breaks when faced Rebonz
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
@KyosukeDowin Nothing that you said made sense,also Strike Freedom when it was shown did not fight a mobile suit that was on par with one on one. Strike Freedom is not even in the same league as 00raiser and would be destroyed if it had to face the Gundams in the 00 series.
eg6gsr 7 months ago
@eg6gsr
Once you see the control series have not see the game Musso Gundam?
And also not to say I'm not saying this for the love Strike freedom
And also to Musso Gundam game has permission from the company BANDAI develop powers of each of Gandam
The duties of the BANDAI stated that the most powerful Strike freedom
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
@KyosukeDowin Again you are talking nonsense because a video game does not prove who is stronger or even who is in the same league because if that were true Broly would be able to go toe to toe with Gogeta.
Your ramblings are getting you nowhere because if painfully obvious that 00raiser is more powerful than Strike Freedom
eg6gsr 7 months ago
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@eg6gsr
Well, Your Guide to What's 00raiser most powerful ..?
For your knowledge company BANDAI
Said one of the strongest Gundam However, a Strike Freedom
Gandam not classified according to your love for him
KyosukeDowin 7 months ago
I think both of them are cheaters....kira with the aimbot beam spam of dragoons and life hack with limitless energy source while setsuna has speedhack(trans-am) and warp hack(quantization). And both of them have god mode (plot armor) which makes them unkillable in the series.
SiegGreed 7 months ago
Can u guys stop making this type of vid because its so fake and stupid.... They are both from different Gundam Universe but u still put it together..... Its not only bias but its lame....
jasonsn11 7 months ago
as for suits strike freedom is a better suit. most peoples only defence for 00 is trans-am. kira is a good pilot and had shown traits of a newtype (dont believe me google it) he is capable of keeping up with trans-am until it wears out, at which the 00 would be running at less than 50% of its capabilities
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 I,ve seen seed seed destiny and 00 and nothing implies that it can keep up when 00 goes trans-am (give me something that says otherwise). Strike freedom isnt really better strike freedom is long range gundam will 00-raiser is close range they accel at different things. Kira to me is the worst gundam pilot not named Loran and setsuna has more battle experience
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto in space when it releases its DRAGOONS it can enter its full thruster capabilities (full burst/HiMat system) & yes strike freedom is a far-medium range suit but its manuvarability makes it capable at close range, dont get me wrong it isnt better at close range than 00 and key words Kira to YOU, thats your own opinion, im not one of those kira cock suckers but i denfend pilots when i feel just, with its range SF should be able to hold trans am, plus SF had unlimited energy(ms&suit)
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 *Defend *(ms&weapons) : i say that because UC ms had Minovsky particles that let them run with no time limit but the weapons had charged packs so where not
SF had both MS unlimited energy and weapom unlimited energy
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 continued 00 is capable of mid range although sf clearly has the advantage in that regard one of the few issues i have with the 00 show is they did a bad job in explaining what an innovator can do. it would appear kira has the advantage there cause coordinators are similar to newtypes and in the gundam universe newtypes are like god then you have the teleport of 00 which kira wont see coming. All im saying is kira would lose a lot of people say kira wins cause sf pwns.
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto being a innovator was more of an outside of combat thing like in the movie (which i heard was shit and unfitting of the gundam universe) where its used to communicate with other beings, but it shold have given him some type of combat advantage kira is the ult coordinator blah blah. he lacks training so is nowhere hear his full potential as a soilder while setsuna is already hardened by war
if it were two exact same pilots in both suits i would give it to 00 but if not then SF
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah i heard the movie was bad and that the only good thing about it was quan[t] but my thing with kira is he was just given all of this stuff just because he was the main character if you want to give him seed mode thats fine but dont give to cagaill who is a natural. But the whole innovator thing i hope the creator says something to specify and give more depth to the innovator idea, it started off good but then got lilttle explanation in the show
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto i get where they were trying to do
give him all this unrefined ability and power, that he himself was unaware of until he stepped into a mobile suit, kind of like a sleeper soilder. my main problem is that the creators got lazy and didn't want to show him using real shooting skill (cuz u know he's a amuro clone) so they gave him SF and showed him taking out armies in own fell swoop as if they wanted the suit to look good and not the pilot = a weak character and strong MS
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah i know seed was basicly a modern clone of the original gundam series that is my main issue with kira and seed in general its like the creator said we wont necessarily make the characters better pilots just give them better machines and im like wow with setsuna at the beginning he was a horrible shot in exia then he got better although far from great. What is your favorite series if you dont mind my asking
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto mine would be i tie between gundam x and zeta gundam, i like most of the rest but for some reason i enjoyed those the most, do you agree or do u fancy another series
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 you liked gundam X ?? i thought i was the only one. But i would have to put ZZ over zeta as a personal preference. I heard 0083 was good as well although i havent watched it. Unicorn is catching my eye it seems really good. The only one i can say that i didnt like was SEED cause i didnt fell like there was any character progression and at the end they just started killing people
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto i could never finish zz gundam because it felt like they were just tossing away kamille and he is one of my fav characters, judau and his gang of newtypes arn't bad but they even gave him kamille's title as strongest newtype (by default, he still has the most potential), im not dissin the series tho i know its good. stardust memory is good and i know exactly what your talking about in seed
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 stardust memory?? that sounds like a good one i may have to check that one out. Is victory any good i heard good things about it. But kamille was mentally unstable although what he did in the zeta gundam was amazing and even though zeta gundam was second in the timeline it set the pace and made the gundam franchise as popular as it is today
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 I go back to the fact setsuna has had actual combat training while in a terrorist group while kira had none except in the series which gives setsuna the advantage in terms of battle experience both gundams have an infinte power source. 00 has more manuvarability because it is a close range gundam sf can aviod to not be as mobile because its long range kira was given too much just because he was main character and w/ the raiser system 00
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto setsuna's combat experence would be shown and plus he had experence with all direction attacks berfore (GN fangs) but like i said kira has had newtype flashes before, if he can just sense out trans am then he would have a great advantage and would most likly win
its a kill or be killed situation, setsuna rivals kira in ability, but he has alot more experence with war
but if he waste trans am then he screws himself, if he doesn't he wins 00 vs SF = depends on pilots
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 SF is superior to the GN fangs although similar i agree that setsuna is equal to pilot skills and ultimately its up to the creators to decide cause kira may get seed mode v2 for all we know one day LOL. It seems that the battle will be decided on how well kira is at defending trans-am although i think that is what puts 00 over the top as a better machine. Then again kira's a newtype like pilot we both know newtypes run the gundam universe
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto my only problem with trans am, is that 00 runs on less than 50% after using it
its both realistic and unrealistic if you get what i mean; near unlimited energy but 5 min in a special mode leaves you near defenceless? SF doesn't really have any modes except for full burst and all that does is let it use all of its thrusters and make the gold joint look good
seed mode v2 LOL, but your right, its up to who the creators like more
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 yeah they did that with trans-am so that the gundams way to over powered. Its only like that until the trans-am full recharges tho which may too long of a wait with the beam spam of sf so like you said if kira can stay alive during trans-am he sf wins, if setsuna can catch kira enough off guard with it then setsuna wins. with all these char and amuro clones in other series i wonder when they will make a judau or kamille clone
panthernaruto 7 months ago
@panthernaruto athrun and shinn are both clones of kamille, they split his personality into two diff people
i dont think they have a judau clone yet
DeathGrinMK1 7 months ago
@DeathGrinMK1 the closest thing i saw to judau was Rerrod from X although i like judau more i have to give credit not only to kamille but to zeta as a whole because although it was second it set the pace for the gundam universe
panthernaruto 7 months ago