LearntoRaid's Majordomo Staghelm Strategy Guide (25 Heroic)

[bustachaina]

ugh annoying voice. talks like, and i bet he looks like it, some fat guy who thinks they're epic. basically he talks in that "epic speak" voice... annoying.

[ilikecrits]

@bustachaina Watch his 'Logged In' show, I think you'll be surprised.

[bustachaina]

@ilikecrits Unfortunately, it worsened my expectations... Far less attractive than I imagined.

[Travisfly27]

Name of the rogues damage text and what addon will make his abilities coming up in big and then fade away?



[nate638]

Been stuck on 25man heroic for 3 weeks now :(. Hopefully well get it tomorrow :D

[bloodpuremager]

@nate638 How are you stuck on this boss? enrage timers or deaths?

[nate638]

@bloodpuremager We weren't using the best strat. We switched it to taking the orbs and stacking them up on the stairs. We used pally's bubbles and mages blocks to tank them.. and we switched out 2 groups of 4 on each phase.. Downed him last monday. =D.

[iinevaeh86]

Support Us, Haters

[Kaotic2012]

Pretty Lights

Who Loves Me

Filling up the City Skies Disc 2

[sollitt1989]

@Kaotic2012 Thanks you!!!!!



[piretedudes]

Anyone knows wich pretty lights song it is? have been searching like a mad man and havent found it! Thanks L2R for getting me hooked on the awesomenesss of Pretty lights.

[sollitt1989]

@piretedudes been doing the same for about a week bud, please some1 help us out!

[pinkdeaths]

i NEED to know what addon is the threat meter and what addon is the combat log PLEASE!!!!!!

[jones3460]

 Really Good guides, this is really helpfull information, keep em up :)

P.S.

What NAMEPLATE addon is this, and what settings is this with? something configured bu LUA, or is it ingame addon setting?

[pinkdeaths]

@jones3460 i believe this is a plug in version of tidypanel/tidyplate i dont know exactly which one

[BanjoBoy33]

lucky melee...

[hamany12]

I hope you do read this comment...The Music Background + your voice talking is kind Noisy and kind annoying :S

and thanks for sharing this with us

[FlesshGordon]

the one dislike was a guy from tankspot

[whoreallygivesacrap]

please turn down the music when you do these tuts. Thanks great tut otherwise.

[sollitt1989]

Anyone got direct link to the 1st song? thanks.

[Proz428]

Easiest boss ever on 25 man heroic...we almost killed him on the 3rd try :/

[evok99]

What happened to your resolution? It's only at 720p

[acturney]

Awesome guide, as usual! :)

[jstripe7]

Sounds like ur reading a language you've never seen before....uh-bill-ih-tees

[Keenor00]

Correct me if im wrong but blizz changed him so he ragains energy based on how much ppl got hit by his flame cleave if it only hits the tank he gains like 80-90 energy and will cleave almost instantly again

[duffry]

@Keenor00 Yes, but not quite instantly, which makes a difference. We pushed to see how many stacks we could get and also tried with the tank eating one. Scythe #9 typically comes ~5 seconds after #8 but with the tank eating #8 on his own #9 came 2.5 seconds later. I don't know how long it is for other numbers but even that is ~18 DPSers having 100% extra damage for 2.5 seconds longer. Chain a few of these and Concentration stays up even more.

It's a gain on normal mode too, but only slightly.

[a979492]

whats the name of the song you used in this vid? Pretty Lights has too many songs for me to look for it lol

Great guide btw

[kristof007]

Kina... Thanks man!

[Bourkes15]

dont bother with this strat on 10 man its pretty terrible

[Bourkes15]

assume ur initial kill was with prot paladin hax

[Northover22x]

thought he gains energy if he hits less people with flame sythe??

[duffry]

@Northover22x He does, though it's still a reduction in total damage taken by the raid and on heroic the extended time without having concentration broken is going to make it valuable. But yes, the next Scythe after a tank eating one will come much sooner than if it were shared.

[duffry]

If one thing you don't need to worry about is DPS then why are you putting healers on orbs when it's the "most healing intensive" part of the fight?

[xXInfuzionXx]

@duffry Because it's obviously hard to not move and take stacks and then let a range get closer and take the stacks from the orb off you.

[duffry]

@xXInfuzionXx I think you miss my point. I'm not saying it's hard for the healers to tank the orbs, I'm saying that doing so reduces their healing at a time when you can more afford to drop DPS.

[xXInfuzionXx]

@duffry Firstly if you didn't use healers as he said, you'd have to get melee to do it, lowering their dps a lot. Also it doesn't lower their healing, they can stand near the orb and then the ranged can go closer taking it off them. They would have to heal themselves but they would also have to heal the person with the orb regardless. Some healers like holy paladins can also heal themselves while healing another person making healers taking it in some situations more beneficial to healing

[duffry]

@xXInfuzionXx The only DPS loss in melee doing it is their losing Concentration, as long as the tank positions them properly. Melee can easily take 1 orb and if there are 2 reasonably close they can take 2. This also reduces the problems of fire patches interfering with orbs as melee speced players don't get jumped. Concentration is also the reason the healers will lose healing... half of it. Even having 2 healers at 100% Concentration will make the phase easier and not lose all that much DPS.

[xXInfuzionXx]

@duffry And then if you make dps lose the buff then the fight lasts longer and makes healing harder. The reason he said dps isn't an issue is because that if you execute the fight correctly, meaning you keep melee with their concentration and make healers take the orbs, you will have enough dps. The damage taken by the people is minimal unless it's fire orb + patch, which is almost a 1 shot anyway. Also if the tank has to move the boss near orbs, then it will make the ranged stack, causing fire.

[duffry]

@xXInfuzionXx "And then if you make dps lose the buff then the fight lasts longer and makes healing harder" Harder overall, but not at that point that is explicitly stated as being a hard point for healers.

At no point was it said that this is a mana issue fight for healers so it's a throughput pinch point at this phase. 4:55 "This is also the segment of the fight that will be the most healing intensive." - not a case of minimal damage as you say.

Why would range stack if melee move to an orb?

[xXInfuzionXx]

@duffry The area is circular if 2 orbs spawned onto the left side, and you wanted melee to take it, the boss would have to move left and then the ranged that would remain on the left side would have to be away from that or risk either letting melee get jumped on or being out of range of healers. While it is the most intensive healing phase, you notice how you can have some healers that don't lose their stacks and the rest can raid heal, and the throughput needed is not that great but on the tank

[duffry]

@xXInfuzionXx It'd be daft to have melee on any orbs bar those closest to the ctr.

2-4 melee concentration stacks reduces the risk of deaths. It would, of course be up to the RL to decide if they needed the healing or the deeps more.

In this video it is both stressed that overall dps was not a big concern and healing in this phase was intensive. I put forward a suggestion that will ease this. You say it is wrong but I think you just don't like it. You play melee by any chance?

[xXInfuzionXx]

@duffry No, I actually play a priest healer. And if your healers can't heal people through a simple DoT, then there is something wrong. If the player with the DoT gets pounced on, they are almost dead anyway.

[Indeffie]

"Balanced or Melee dps" does that mean you can do it with only melee dps?

[MrNMunn94]

@Indeffie No, spreading out is key to making him change forms (information based on 10man normal, im not sure if its different in 25)

[Indeffie]

@MrNMunn94 Thats what I thought but the text said differently

[xGmart]

ps chowmein sucks ;)

[marclaguitare]

Please tell us what's the song at the very end!

[insanegamer8]

i dont know about you guys but i was paying more attention to that rogue rape face instead of listening to kina

[finalfantasy50]

How i met your mother reference!

Argh Blizz, you and your puns :D

[xJulz23x]

Ok, im going to be the one that has to say this. Kina you remind of a turtle. Take it as you will.

[ShmexyTube]

@xJulz23x Reminds you of turtle guy from Master of Disguise.

[popup1995]

Would this work in 10 man? And how many healers would you recommend for this on 10man? :)

Great strategy as usual :)

[Hellbent1691]

@popup1995 we 3 heal, with 2 melee maintaining full concentration the whole fight.9:45 kills(close even with 2 100% concentration melee)

[MrGlennJohnsen]

@popup1995 2healers same strat, atleast bring 1-2 ranged and keep your healers in ranged, mages are good for soaking the orbs in 10man. It's the strat we're using tomorrow.

[NoobHaxx]

@popup1995 In 10 man you do the exact same strategy as Reg, ie taking the Scythes, because this boss is severely undertuned in 10 man.

[Neon2110]

@popup1995 yes we do this strat, 2 healing it is enough.

[BlueDeathFire]

@popup1995 For 10 man heroic modes, I recommend using FatbossTV. They have 6/7 heroic on their channel with strategy and they only do 10 man.

[Bourkes15]

@popup1995 10 man this strat would blow , Try scorp first, take 12 stacks initially rotating raid cds for flame scythe, then 9 leaps for each cat, reduce the scorpion stacks by 1 everytime you do him, for example 11 for the next scorpion 10 for the last. 10 man dps is alot more leniant. Have your better raid healer (resto druid or holy priest stand out full time)

[sammmaaaayyyy]

@popup1995 Far as I know the 0 scythe is 2 healed, and it is the normal strat for 10 man as well

[furyano1]

@popup1995 3



[lillbrorsan]

Awesome new video, incredibly huge execution based fight :P

[kh87]

i like the strat for running around in circles but this isnt lk anymore you gotta add some zig zags

[KFCBIGBUCKET]

Woop! I don't even do that many heroic bosses, these are just fun to watch! :D

[nintandao64]

Woooo love seeing these in my sub box

[kripton176seqas]

n1ce

[PWNINGxYOU]

4th

[Lotuzify]

NIce !

[SuperSvebba]

good video!

[Medallionlucas]

yeah new L2R!