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  • Setting aside the demon possessed bentley I would also say that Todd friel is way too critical of visions and prophetic gifts. He used to criticized those Muslims who had a supernatural visions of Jesus. I think he deny such thing can occur and assume Jesus can't do those things nowadays if he wants to

  • bentley. doesny care about this video nor does his lorg rick joyner the whore pimp of him. history will foinish out with these ppl like this and many many more. Dont wonder what happened when God smashed the USA because 90% of supposed believers want this stuff. It seems 90% do, maybe a little less yet the masses want it. Look at TBN ... no difference there.

  • Many people are decieved by Todd Bentley for the simple reason that they DO NOT read God's Word and I'm not talking about Oh I read it all once, and I read verses on t-shirts and I listen to Todd quoting the occasional verse, but reading, breathing, living, eating His Word....."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and The Word Was God." Johanan 1:1

  • Todd Bentley you are an abomination WOE to you Satan

  • Todd's laughter was wonderful - so funny. I miss him. Todd was a refreshing change.

  • beware of bentley

  • God can touch you where you are.

    Keep focus on God and not man.

    Becareful not to be decieved. :l

    ~BSG

  • I have seen the real "drunk in the Spirit" experience and is just as the Bible said: the tongues come out of your mouth when you do not expect them! You may laugh because is funny how your vocal chords are being used by God, but when you speak to another, a celestial tongue will speak through your mouth.....You can stop it but just don't want to!!!! is just amazing

  • @Nuevoaliento Beloved the only spirit using your vocal chords is satan.

    Let those who have ears here!

  • @babyboqboq and your comment and attitude comes from Hell....God Bless You.

  • @Nuevoaliento My friend I may come from Hell but God's Word is Holy Holy Holy, don't be a fool to God but to the World, read His Word and pray that he may show you the truth, and lead you to true praise, all our brother Paul (Shaul) tells us to keep away from such things you talk about, brother or sister if indeed you are in Yahushua Ha'Mashiach seek the truth, you need to read The epistles of John, James and Paul.....May Elohim shine His light upon your heart and show you the truth

  • People are getting healed in Lakeland? Prove it biker-boy...

  • he's like some kind of demon, laughing AT his audience !

  • What denomination is the Speaker??? Like of the radio station??

  • @Sethern53

    I believe he and the radio station are non-denominational. They really like the old preacher Charles Spurgeon. They follow a lot of his theology.

  • @thedrippinglemon Ok, lol thank you very much :3

  • @Sethern53 Does it matter, what you should ask yourself is "Am I discerning spirits in the same truth?"

  • @Sethern53 Christian follower of Christ, beloved

  • Wow where do you get this new age stuff, it kinda make's me quezey, no offence but....yuk

  • Creation science is a lie.....and sane, rational people KNOW it

  • and he doesn't even allow anyone to respond to his videos?

  • who ever this tom person is he's deceiving many people.....but what i want to know is if he's so bold sending out these videos on youtube why isn't he bold enough to answer peoples comments?

  • this is revival. people said the apostles were drunk too.

  • look at the fruit people are getting saved and people that are already saved are getting refreshed thats good fruit if this werent of God these things wouldnt be happening

  • Actually, only God knows if they are truly saved.

  • How do you know what your god knows?

  • @TheotherPrometheus Umm... Generally you can tell if someone is saved or not because they will have Acts 2:38... If they have all three of that then all they have to do is live a holy life (As possible) For God and you will be ok

  • Yes, generally. But remember the parable of the sower: Some seeds sprang up quickly, only to perish.

  • Fakeland, not lakeland. coco the clown has come to town.

  • Hi

    it was the slanderers who accused...

    just as the devil does...

    drunk in the spirit, is total humanistic rubbish

    to be filled with the spirit, is to do with the will of GOD...simple...

  • They say,if the people over there were to love Jesus more,then that is true Revival.

    So the test is so simple?I submit,then this is true revival.Case closed.Any more words against them is slander.

  • Please People!

    Instead of making my own comments, Just look at what the Word of God says and draw your own conclusions.

    Matthew 24:11 "and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people".

    Matthew 24:24 "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.

    Mark 13:22 "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible".

  • If I am wrong then its Gods fault dude talk to him about it! he caused it! You see i dont live in a life afraid of God but you should because your his enemy, Im his Son! big difference.

    You remember Elijah (a friend of the family) dont you! guys like you wanted a piece of him so he wound up smoking all 420 of them (GODS ENEMIES) you would kill the true Prophets because your my dads enemy! therefore mine! so get ready for the barbecue!

    gather up the baal Prophets Ill meet you at the alter>

  • Thank God somebody has the good sense to expose this garbage for what it is garbage. Todd Bentley is a New Age Witch and those that follow him are ignorant, suckers. There is one born every minute.

  • you killer GOD will not help you "here" GOD don,t give you a ministry to expose people he said he would seperate the wheat from the tare.s not you, your more off then they are. what so ever things are of a good report. look at how you sound .hunting down these people.

  • If these people weren't exposed then how would you know about it? And the Lord God does say you can expose them in Pauls letters. Timothy or Titus I believe about false teachers coming. If He didn't want to warn us then why was it put in His words. Jesus even spoke about them in Matthew's gospel.

  • i don't like the sarcasm... this is serious stuff that has caused deep wounds.

  • the glory cloud? its in the old testament.

    dont you read your bible killer trumpet?

    you obviously dont believe in the power of God, your loss.

  • the glory cloud of God is not in any part of this video.

    I would want the Spirit of God that came upon Samson. He did not fall down.

    Those who use the example of the Old Testament mention of the Temple. That is completely out of Context. The Apostles did not fall down and shake.

    Let those who have ears hear and those that have eyes see.

  • ok here's the deal. todd may or may not be of God, but it isnt wotm's place to judge. And honestly a huge part of their program is based on making fun of, discrediting people and criticizing people.

    so while todd may or may not be of God, the way wotm radio has conducted itself certainly is not.

    and for another thing: though todd's ways may be odd, so were jesus'

    what would wotm have said if they saw jesus rub mud in a mans eyes??

  • If Todd were to respond to your comments, he might respond with...

    "Yikes!"

  • yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Glad you can read. (Clap clap)

  • sorry my coment I didnt look at what the subject was I'm refering to what was wrote to me yesterday on laughter

  • lots in vines just some joyful rejoicing Samach suggest three elements l) sspontaneous unsustaned feeling of jublilance 20 a feeling of so strong that it finds expression in some external act, 3) a feeling prmpted by some external and unsustained stimulus this emotion ariest at festivals ,wedding feast harvest feast overthrowing ones enemies , by dancing, singing play instruments . This is sense when David was heard by woman of Jersusalem just a touch in there

  • 3000 baptised!

    500 a day out on the streets!

    Thousands healed!

    ha ha, there not teaching on laughing in the spirit! God is good, laughter is good. Devil is bad , devils bring torment.

    It's men full of the Holy Spirit taht change the world!

  • I'm not sure which is more troubling....

    + the antics of Todd Bentley

    or

    + the sarcasm of this radio host.

    IMHO this guy brings a bad light on Way of the Master ministry. Kirk and Ray are good guys. Its to bad they have such a corny, sneering host to represent their ministry.

  • Bentley is doing little to bring credibility to the authenicity of the revival, but this host is doing little to properly critique it. How does he know that people aren't loving Jesus more, reading their Bibles or souls being saved? For a great read check out "A Step Into Deliverance" by T. Pugh. It's a riveting autobiography about one pastor's journey into the deliverance ministry. A real exposure on the spirit of jezebel.

  • I didn't like anything you said. Please go back in your box but don't put my God in a box.

  • laughter is good medicine, God Glory is way beyond mortal mans thoughts, In heaven I beleive it pure joy , just like Love is beyond anything any man has ever know so is all the other fruits of the Holy Spirit

  • Oh, babble babble without a clue as to where in scripture you can support such trite, honeyrosedove.

  • You have yet to provide any scripture or even an intelligent answer,you name call then accuse us of name calling.You have problems.Go visit Bob Larson and get the religious pharicee demon out of you.

  • What scripture are you looking for? I have scanned your posts for questions. I'm sorry, I'm missing what you asked. Please ask again.

  • Ok, michellebelle. And may I recommend that you seek help yourself, since we're being so "help-directed".

    You called me a Pharisee, a catholic, a denominationalist, all without foundation and all false accusations. Now who are you mimicking there, michellebelle? Who likes to falsely accuse?

    Don't bother answering those last questions, I think everyone reading this will know.

  • Baptism in the spirit is charismatic only???Really,thats news to me.

    Matt. 3:11

    Mark 1:8

    Luke 3:16

    John 1:33

    Acts 1:5

    Acts 11:16

    Mark 16:15-20

    Matthew 10:1-8  DO YOU NEED MORE.

  • Scripture does not support a second baptism. Sorry. Your pagan belief in a second baptism is heretical.

  • I gave you several scriptures that fully support it.

  • I'm afraid not. You gave me scripture that has been de-contextualized to read as something else.

  • You dont want it read as it does.

  • Don't be drunk with wine but be filled with the Holy Spirit.

    In His presence is fullness of JOY.

    JOY is something you feel.

    Nice smile by the way.

    Is that because you feel good?

    I thought you said feelings were wrong.

    Bless you. :)

    Come Holy Spirit.

    Malc (UK)

  • Better not show him the scriptures that talk about shouting,dancing and playing loud instruments before the Lord.Peri might faint.Its not in his doctrinal creed.Dont pee yourself now peri but remember the guy who danced NAKED before the Lord.Horrors!

  • Joy is not something you "feel" like a drunken idiot.

  • I am trying to point out that you cannot build a theology around feelings, that's all. Just because you "feel" happy doesn't mean it's from God.

    BTW, That's not me in the video frame. I am NOT him. That is Todd Friel, the host of Way of the Master Radio. LOL.

  • PeripheralMan:

    According to your description of charismatic movement.

    I believe Jesus and his disciples were the starters of charismatic movement .

    And Paul was the biggest promoter of charismatic movement.

    Even if some of the followers of this movement went too extreme, or there are devils working in the movement. It is still God's wonderful work because it is initiate by God. It is all written in the Bible.

  • PeripheralMan:

    You said :"The Bible. Is it complete? Yes. Do we need more prophecy? No. More "messages"? No. You have all that God has to say to you in the Bible. Period. Do not add or take away"

    Please give evidence to what you said, I can not find them in my English Bibles. Are they in your bible or God revealed it to you some time ago ? I wish you can understand what I say this time.

  • Read the Revelation scripture. Right near the end it states openly to not add or take away from the book.

  • Did you go to church TODAY! Do you celebrate christ-MASS.Then you have already added to the book.

  • By going to church I have "added to the book"? What???? You are nuts.

  • Yes, I went to church today. No, I don't side with you that I "added" to the book as I simply worshipped God and heard a sermon.

  • Sunday isnt the sabbath.!

  • Oh, so you're a seventh day adventist....

  • Sorry,totally non-denom.! I have just come to the realization that there are many traditions in the church that arent biblical.

  • Oh boy... well, you have a nice chat with yourself... I don't care to engage in a calendar debate... Bye.

  • Of course you dont,you have nothing to support your beliefs so you cant argue.

  • Blah-blah-blah. Pathetic.

  • What,are you 12.Grow up.Wanker.

  • Said like a truly childish churl. Keep commenting, your sin is showing... LOL.

  • PeripheralMan:

    What is "charismatic followers" means ?

    Please give me a clear definition please.

    Are they Christ followers? Or Devil followers? Or they can be both? I have more and more difficulties to really understand the meaning of "Christian" these days. Thank you.

  • I guess you will always be Peripheral

    Bye Bye

  • The Charismatic movement started out of a desire to "experience" God. In the "authentic spiritual" experience, emotion, feelings and the senses often become intense, past normal. So, in charismatic circles, the revealed plan and operation of God in scripture becomes muted while the personal experience reigns as truth. This mode lends itself to al kinds of false teachings and heresies, and the charismatic movement has suffered such heresies in the past. Bentley is just the next in a long line.

  • jsb8888, in 1982, Dr. Percy Collett claimed to have visited heaven and talked face-to-face with the Holy Spirit. In his writings he claims that even though Paul, 2000 years earlier, was forbidden to talk about his heavenly experience, Collett was told to do so. Collett's followers granted him the same worship, except in precise name, as worship supposed to be only for God. Collett went so far as to describe "the "Pity Department" where al the aborted babies go."

  • Charsmatic followers rarely speak out against any claims or testimonies because "exsperience validates itself." Doesn't matter how many hard facts are presented, charismatic followers will follow a leader straight into becoming a cult. Jonestown, the Moonies.. there are plenty of examples of the fraudulent and tragic stories from this heresy of charisma.

  • The baptism of the Spirit is another feature of the charismatic movement. The idea is that you require a second baptism after your water baptism to be a TRUE follower of Jesus Christ, even though no scripture supports such a thing.

    Many followers believe that a "gift" of speaking in tongues is a "sign" of your salvation. Many churches regard the mindless babbling they call "speaking in tongues" as "proof" of your maturity. Don't Yabba-dabba-do? Well, you're just not much of a Christian. Trite.

  • A charismatic in nothing more than a believer who wont allow God to be put into a denominational box. So peri,why dont you show us where Jesus split believers into denominations.Charismatics are open to the spirit whereas denoms arent.They have a form of godliness but deny the power.

  • Not so. I gave the definition of charismatic beliefs. You just don't like it.

  • Whats the matter why cant you answer our questions.

  • PeripheralMan:

    You said :"The Bible. Is it complete? Yes. Do we need more prophecy? No. More "messages"? No. You have all that God has to say to you in the Bible. Period. Do not add or take away"

    Who told you above nonsense (messages) ? God himself ? Because I can not find it anywhere in THE BIBLE. Do you add it into your own version of bible?

    I do know Pharisees and Devil himself all used Scriptures to trick Jesus.

  • Could you please clarify what you area sking me. I can't make heads or tales of: "Who told you above nonsense (messages) ? God himself ? Because I can not find it anywhere in THE BIBLE. Do you add it into your own version of bible?"

    I'd like to answer, but I can't make sense of that...

  • His questions are simple,as are mine.Youre evading the questions.Are you catholic.?They have a penchant for evading questions.All youre doing is proving that you CANT answer us.

  • I am not Catholic. There, has that answered that question?

  • Such a shame to see a Christian mocking an evangelist whose heart is on fire for God.

    Take advice from Gamaliel.

    You risk blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

  • I'm not mocking him. I'm calling him out, as did the media. He comes up short and is a liar. Period.

  • Father forgive.

    You asked me if I thought I was a good person. An odd question from a Christian. No, you and I are both sinners saved by grace. Any true goodness in us comes from the Holy Spirit who indwells us.

    Right?

  • Right answer, malkimalk. Just checking to see whether you got that part right, even though you have the rest screwed up.

    Are you asking for forgiveness for me? If so,l you're an arrogant prick.

  • NAME CALLING!

  • I doubt anyone saved by listening to "Way of the Master Radio" ?

    PripheralMan:

    Do you witness for Jesus lately or lead anyone to Christ?

    You watch too much ABC, CNN -- they are famous for mocking God, aren't they?

  • God bless you as you seek after truth. May the Spirit lead you.

  • Better: Let God's spirit bring you to a place of repentance from this deception by the charlatan Todd Bentley. ABC Nightline: "Not a single claim of Bentley's healing powers could be verified.": July 9th. Wake up, folks.

  • Tell ya what,get on a plane and make your way to BC then go to his church and tell the people there that.Funny how you believe the media over children of God.Yup Demonationalist.

  • "Funny how you believe the media over children of God." Todd invited the media and willingly gave them "documentation" that the ABC Nightline staff followed up on. After contacting the names and numbers, ABC News reached the following conclusion: "Not a single claim of Bentley's healing powers could be independently verified."

    Bentley asked for it. You just don't like the outcome.

  • "Not a single claim of Bentley's healing powers could be independently verified." From ABC News online, July 9, Faith Matters. It's a scam. Bentley is false. Wake up.

  • Some scam. I was ther 6 nights and saw nothing questionable at all. Todd is a genuine evangelist and the Outpouring id of God.

    Malc

    (Reading England)

  • You saw nothing because you are blind.

  • I have never felt so close to God or so bold for Jesus since being in the Florida Outpouring.

    These men are not drunk as you suppose!

    Why did they suppose that?

    Frankly you could do with a good laugh.

    May you be truly Shika Boom Ba'd.

  • amlkimalk2008, we do not base our faith on feelings. Faith is a gift from God. Not a feeling. The hallmark of deception is that you might "feel" something. What about discerning what you are seeing in light of scripture? Not using scripture to justify your experience, but simply studying scripture and then discerning if what you are seeing is true? Refer to my questions below.

  • ok...

    In His presence is the FULLNESS of JOY.

    How is the FULLNESS of Joy manifest?

    Laughter!

    Laughter is medicine.

    Want some medicine? Get in God's presence.

  • You're talking nonsense. In the presence of the Lord is fulness of JOY.

    Perhaps you eat too many lemons.

    There's something wrong for sure.

    That Christians are not supposed to feel God is a lie straight from the pit.

    I was in Lakeland 6 nights and it blessed my socks off!

    Come Holy Spirit.

    Malc (Reading England)

  • Joy has nothing to do with feelings. Do a study of that word JOY. Oh yeah, you can't because you're blind to the truth. Well rage on, malkimalk, you hypocrite.

  • That just about takes the biscuit.

    "JOY has nothing to do with feelings"????

    Are you from the Borg?

    Man oh boy. I hope you aren't in charge of the netertainment in heaven!!!!

    :) :) :)

  • Joy transcends temporal emotions. It is something that Stephen still had as he was being stoned. It is what Paul had when he was imprisoned and when he was whipped.

    Of course, you would have to have a modicum of maturity and intelligence to understand that.

    If you're running on feelings and emotions, you will be tossed about by every wave of doctrine. Which is what is happening here...

    Very sad.

  • Are you that nut from Trading spouses.Mike,the "religious" guy from Rabbit Hash.The one who made christians look like idiots.Hving fun and laughing was a bad thing,everything had to be perfect and in order.He had to control everything.Did you go to an ACE school.

  • Very good, michelle belle, you have gone the way that every charismatic eventually goes. When you can't argue effectively, you attack the source with more false accusations. Like a common gossip and slanderer, you have stooped to satanic activity to defend your heresies.

  • You want to laugh like a fool in front of God rather than fall to your face in fearful reverence. You want to dance to loud rock music rather than study scripture and prove yourself true to His will. You'd rather base your faith on how you feel, rather than on the wonderful truth of your salvation from hell.

    I have a question. Do you think you're a good person? Just answer that one.

  • Here2awekenu and michellebelle: No medical confirmation exists for ANY of the healings or resurrections. If ONE resurrection exists, the media would report it. God's Word is Holy and complete. Slow down a little and think. I was a charismatic just like you. But I found the folly of that cultish faith and learned where it came from. Do you really know where it came from? If you'd like to know, to really know, then read "Charismatic Chaos" by John Macarthur or visit charismania on the web.

  • No thanks. Relationship far supercededs any books, denominations, or other persuasions.

    When you know God, you hear His voice, and cannot be moved.

    Though you have eyes and ears, you can't see or hear.

    That is why Jesus said many times, "He who has an ear, let him hear."

    Many don't have ears to hear.

    They judge from the external.

    Beware when all man shall speak well of you!

    Blessed are you when men cast insults at you, etc... REJOICE!

  • Todd claimed healings and resurrections. I am not judging from the external. I am simply pointing out that he has lied. Period. No confirmations. If anything, there have been refutations from hospitals and a confirmation of a death AFTER Todd decreed a man healed. I don't insult you. I am pointing out

  • For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon';

  • "For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon';" Context and relevancy of this scripture?

  • Then the Pharisees went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

    But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

    Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

    No sign for you, but REPENTANCE!

  • Here2, what lead the Pharisees to set a council to set out to destroy him? Because Jesus said this: "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." THINK

  • I thought and guess what.

    Your righteousness is as filthy rags. Humble yourself and pray that you may have eyes to see and ears to hear what the Spirit is saying. So many critics in the church with logs in their own eyes trying to remove the splinters from others eyes.

    God loves a broken and contrite spirit. The haughty know-it-alls shall be humbled and brought very low.

    Selah..

  • Well, I guess reasoning together over scripture is not in your mode. So, rage on, Here2. I pray that scripture becomes more important for you one day. I also pray that you don't get hurt by this charlatan Bentley. I claim no righteousness except the Lord Jesus and the living Word of God. I am not criticizing you or Bentley. I am naming evil and warning against it. Period.

  • Having your eyes fixed to see false, you miss the true. Jesus said, "Let the wheat and tares grow together". "Don't try to remove the tares". Then at the end of the ages He will send forth His angels to seperate them.

    Let God be God. Follow Him and stop fearing deception. His anointing shall abide in you that no one may decieve you. The Spirit of God will guide you into ALL TRUTH. You are trying to do the work of the Holy Spirit. Let go!

  • If you believe the revival is false, ok. Let God reveal to each Himself which is true or false.

  • It's either true or false. All evidence points to this "ministry" as being false. PLEASE know that I am not claiming to be free of sin. I used to be Charismatic, but I have learned what the truth of the charismatic movement is. PLEASE know I am not attacking, I am compelled to speak out so that others, including you, my dear friend, don't fall victim to such scams and deceptions. Please receive this as a friendly message to step back and research the heresies of the signs and wonders craze.

  • You just said, "PLEASE know that I am not claiming to be free of sin."

    Who Jesus sets free is free!

    This is why you judge the revival, you are not free.

    My suggestion: Stop judging and go to the revival and see for yourself. Don't fear. If you trust God as you say, He will reveal to you the truth.

  • Does God's anointing abide in you?

  • What does that mean? Scripture reference please? Sounds like Charismatic babble.

  • Not babble, but bible!

    Concerning those that may be deceived....

    1 John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and YE NEED NOT ANY MAN TEACH YOU: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

  • Not man, but God should teach you throught specific message. Where do we get that message? The Bible. Is it complete? Yes. Do we need more prohecy? No. More "messages"? No. You have all that God has to say to you in the Bible. Period. Do not add or take away.

    Still: no confirmed healings or resurrections at the Bentley "revival" according to ABC News Nightline.

  • FOR THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. You probably still celebrate pagan-mass and have pagan trees every dec 25th.Clearly you DONT believe the word.!

  • "FOR THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY." Could you please explain the scripture that you drew that statement from? In context please?

  • Are you God's father? Why you tell Him what He can or cannot do? Your god is a false god, created by you, because he is limited by your so call "bible" which is interpreted by you own currupted  mind.

    You said :"The Bible. Is it complete? Yes. Do we need more prohecy? No. More "messages"? No. You have all that God has to say to you in the Bible. Period. Do not add or take away"

  • you all have a for of godliness, but you deny the POWER!

    Is a shame..word with no power is not the rue gospel! If that is the case, Jesus (The WORD) would not have done any miracles! He would have only spoke scripture like all you parrots are doing.

  • Here2awakenu, I do not deny God's power. His power to save is awesome. Bentley's ministry is not of God. It's a scam. There are no confirmed healings or resurrections. Period. I do not deny God's power. I state clearly that Bentley's claims are false. Period.

  • You wicked generation seeking a sign! There will be no sign given except the sign of Jonah.

    What sign is that?

    REPENTANCE!

  • Amen. So REPENT and flee from the flesh-filled Bentley garbage that speaks about SIGNS AND WONDERS. Come on, Here2awakenu. Use some hermeneutics, please. Jesus' word in the Greek is "hermeneo" for rightly discerning scripture, so the act of hermeneutical reading IS scriptural, not man-made.

  • You really want a scripture? Here are 2 for you.

    "Don't give what is Holy to the dogs, they will only trample it under their feet and then turn and attack you."

    "Don't cast your pearls before swine"

    Bye..go argue with God now. I have work to do.

  • Run and hide, Here2awakenu and don't engage when you are outstripped of logic. I pray that you will eventually flee from this apostasy and repent to discover the true gospel.

  • jsb8888, I'm sorry to inform you that followers of Bentley have invented a false god. You say that I am limiting God "by your so call "bible" which is interpreted by you own currupted mind." I'm not sure if you are saying that the Bible isn't true, or if what I have presented is false doctrine. First, God's Word is the Bible and the Bible speaks of God's power and his omniscience and omnipotence. Second, it is not from a corrupted mind that I state that Bentley is false.

  • You don't get it, do you?

    In this revival no one is following Bentley. God's children go there to meet with Him because there is a hunger for God there, NOT MAN! The church is tired of man, can't you see? This revival is all about JESUS, no one else. If you go for Todd, then yes, you will be dissapointed, but if you go for Jesus and to be in HIS PRESENCE. YOU WILL FIND HIM!

    Hallelujah.

  • Not so, Here2awakenu. People are praising Todd Bentley. Check it out. Bentley has claimed powers comparable to God. Pulling people from the heavens with his voice, etc. This revival is not about Jesus, but about being hypnotized after hours of exhausting, high energy worship and then believing fairytales and heresies. 1 Tim 4:4; "They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

  • I won't "go", period. I can "find" Jesus in my prayer closet and experience his power by sharing the gospel. Not by spinning myself into a hypnotic state and losing contact with reality and sober, reflective, pious reverent prayer.

  • The interpretation of the Bible that I follow is presented by Jesus himself and by Godly, devout scholarly pious men of God. I am not talking about denomainationalism. I am talking about rightly dividing (dividing="hermeneo" in Greek) the Word "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

  • He became sin for us. If you are so deluded as to think your are no longer with sin in you, you are truly deluded. Repentance is a daily thing.

  • You said..."He became sin for us. If you are so deluded as to think your are no longer with sin in you, you are truly deluded. Repentance is a daily thing."

    My reply:

    We are now born of the Spirit and have two natures... Christ nature and sin nature. Through the Christ nature in u, we put to death daily the deeds of the sin nature, so that we no longer sin.

    Thus we are free from sin!

  • Fine. No argument. My point was that I must constantly keep extracting "specks" from my eye, and have done so.

  • Reguardless of true or false...God wants us to keep our eyes on HIM..Only Him, not a man.

    I have become careful in want I decide to label as false because sometimes the very one we oppose may be GOD HIMSELF working through that person. Just like Paul got blinded and knocked to the ground by Jesus. Paul was opposing Christians at the time.

    Perhaps you are doing the same.

  • Nope. I'm not doing that at all. I am stating clearly that Todd has lied about: his past, his tattoos, and that his "evidence" of healings and resurrections has been refuted. You can "label" something as false. After all, is Satanism ok? How about Islam? Do you "label" Atheism as false? You are called to rightly divide and interpret scripture. Now, given the text is over 2000 years old, plenty of godly scholars have done very good work on helping you read the word. Use their research to help.

  • Let's make it simple as it is.

    God's Spirit will guide us into all truth.

  • Here2awakenu, you almost got it right. God's Spirit and His Word are a light to you, a guide. Rightly dividing the word and discerning what is good and righteous is what we are called to do as believers. You cannot abandon the Word for personal experience.

  • You cant have a form of godliness and deny the power as DENOMINATIONALISTS do.

  • I'm not sure what this new namecalling is, but I suspect it is related to the namecalling I first experienced : Pharisees. You charismatic followers are so predictable. You are so arrogant. LOL.

  • Name calling? Are you smoking something.Why do you refuse to answer my questions.Youre afraid to admit that you take part in satanism every dec 25th.You dont like the fact that denominationalism is NOT biblical,but you pracitce it anyway.Hmmmm

  • Satanism on Dec 25th. Another false accusation. You really are satanic, you know?

  • Please give me scriptural reference to Dec 25 being Christs b-day or any reference telling us to celebrate it once a year.Gee that wouldnt be adding to the book now would it.

    Christ-mass is PAGAN!Gal 10

  • I don't know what you are on about. I do not go to a Christ's Mass. I'm not Catholic. Period.

  • I never claimed that Dec 25 is Christ's b-day, nor did I claim that we should celebrate it. But this is way off topic...

  • No its not you keep accusing others of not being bible believers.If youre a superior bible believer why celebrating christ-mass.You keep accusing people of adding to the book.Christmass is an addition.Easter is also a pagan term.Its passover.

  • I DO NOT CELEBRATE CHRIST-MASS!!!! Oh boy, will you not read my replies to you?

  • I do not even BELONG to a denomination, you slandering satanic heretic.

  • You sure act like it.You can go to a denominational church without belonging.

  • Accusatory without explaining what you mean. Shorter and shorter comes your drivel. Why don't you just stop and calm down?

  • Since you became a beleiver, have you received the Holy Spirit?

    Been baptized with the Holy Spirit?

  • Hes probably a denominationalist.He couldnt feel the spirit if it sat on him.!

  • Hardly so. I just disagree with your theology (what little you have).

  • michellebelle71. Once you run out of Biblical reasons and scripture, I guess you (like all the other charismatic followers of this Bentley) fall back on namecalling or throwing around false accusations, like "denominationalist." Tell me, aren't you one then? You don't accept those who aren't charismatic and don't believe in being "slain in the spirit", do you? Would you please read your comment and ask yourself how that reflects any vestige of the Spirit you claim you have received?

  • Denominationalism IS a SIN.Its not biblical.

    I guess then you DO celebrate Christ-mass and have a tree that pagans use.!I'm non-denominational,apostolic,c­harismatic.I am a bible believer thats why I dont do those things.Have you experience the shekinah glory?

  • Now, now, if you can't be nice say nothing.

    Yes he's mistaken, but bless him, so are countless thousands who have been badly taught about the Holy Spirit or been turned off by some of your American evangelists!

    Blessings.

    Shika Boom Ba! :)

    Malcolm (Reading, England)

  • Judging my salvation, aren't you, satan?

  • Lied about his past.? Mabe you need to go to his website and hear his hour long testimony.He lays it on the table.!

  • He states that he didn't get tattoos until after he started preaching. That is not so. He said that he had a misdemeanor charge when he was young, then, when the media did a little investigating, they uncovered his crime of child molestation. Only AFTER the media uncovered it did he admit to it. He once stated that he was "searching", but never that he was specifically a satanist until afyer the media uncovered it.

  • Actually he did.Now grow some balls and go listen to his testimony.Untill you do you have NOTHING to stand on.The you might want to consider reading about Yeshuahs family.

  • "grow some balls"? Yep, you're sou