Бессовестные немцы смеют говорить о жестокости красноармейцев, об изнасилованных немках. Все так называемые преступления красноармейцев всего лишь проявления праведного гнева на злодеяния фашистов.
Я считаю, что немецкий народ несет коллективную ответственность в розвязывании второй мировой. Будь моя воля я бы их всех переселил в Сибирь или в Среднюю Азию, а Германию заселил бы русскими.
Если мне прийдется когда-нибудь воевать против немцев то я их в плен брать не буду
@Elwetritsch007 Th north eastern part of former East Prussia - around Memel was taken by Lithuania. Earlier you wrote that all of East Prussia was taken by Lithuania.
As for Poland's demand to all of East Prussia,when did this happen - or did you make it up?
I clearly know much more about it than you. To take your idea, you should not write about things of which you know nothing.
Perverse is your desire to change history by lying about it.
But you have to remeber one fact - in the middle-ages it was a part of the Kingdom of Lithuania, so I might say that we took what was ours, though lost long ago...
@Notanga0920 I did not want to go into the rights and wrongs of it - I was pointing out to the former idiot who claimed that Lithuania occupied all of East Prussia!
@alanheath After the WW2 government considered the fact of attaching the East Prussia (Kaliningrad Oblast) to Lithuania, but Stalin had forbidden it. Also, around the 1965 the right to this territory was questioned again, sadly it remained only a question. In addition, there were created even some maps with Lithuanian names of towns and villages.
@Elwetritsch007 The economy stagnated everywhere in the 1930s - being geographical separated has nothing to do with it. Alaska is separated from the USA + it does not seem to do it any harm.
When was East Prussia threatened by Poland?
When did Lithuania 'annex the area completely' (sic) ?
You made those two things up which will obviously give a perverted view of history.
Germany didnt really start the war.Now it s proven and we know that Stalin had plans to invade Germany while Germany was busy with Britain on the west in 1940.
@eulex10 What a load of nonsense. Stalin was perfectly happy to go to war against the UK if the Nazis asked him to as he revealed to Molotov. The Nazis started the war against Poland on 1 September 1939, followed by the Soviet attack on that country on 17 September 1939.
@alanheath would like to see where u got this from.Ribentrop was begging MOlotov in November 1940 during Belin meetup to join war effort against UK,offering Russians chunk of India(at that time British colony)Molotov turned him down saying:"If you are so certain Britan is finished,why British planes are shelling us now and we are meeting in a bunker"?So,please shut up,your knowledge of WWII history is next to nothing OK?
millions of russians died, 6 million jews, gypseys murdered and we're to feel sorry for these germans who were "cold". Oh I forgot no one realized the jews were being gassed and shot. They took no responsibility.
Since seeing this, I looked at the election results in pre Nazi Germany on a provincial basis. East Prussia had the highest support for the nationalists and then the Nazis of all provinces.
Here we see the bridge at Dirschau (Tczew) - occasionally suggested as one of the places where the first shots of WW2 were fired.
To get across the Vistula here the family would have had to have gone through Soviet lines given that they had already said that Elbląg was in Soviet hands.
Schlobitten is now Słobity in Poland. Elbling (Elbląg) is around 30km to the west so when the family heard that the Soviets were there, they must have realised that they were cut off. At least one refugee train was sent into Elbląg whilst under Soviet control. The Soviets reached the coast at the Vistula Lagoon around 23 January completely surrounding East Prussia. On that day Doenitz started evacuating as Koch and Borrmann had failed to do so.
No, the eastern half of Poland the Soviets invaded in 1939 was never returned to Poland. They got a piece of Germany in return. So in essence, Poland shifted to the west.
No, Poland never got back western Ukraine which J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939. Poland did get back western Poland from Germany. They can thank J. V. Stalin for that. Germans can be thankful after J. V. Stalin crushed their armies he showed mercy upon then even after the previously unheard barbarism and savagery the fascists, led by Germany, visited upon the Soviet Union.
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Бессовестные немцы смеют говорить о жестокости красноармейцев, об изнасилованных немках. Все так называемые преступления красноармейцев всего лишь проявления праведного гнева на злодеяния фашистов.
Я считаю, что немецкий народ несет коллективную ответственность в розвязывании второй мировой. Будь моя воля я бы их всех переселил в Сибирь или в Среднюю Азию, а Германию заселил бы русскими.
Если мне прийдется когда-нибудь воевать против немцев то я их в плен брать не буду
gattobazilio 23 hours ago
the russians got away with the bad things they did .
thor1963123 3 days ago
now its all in the eu.
thor1963123 3 days ago
After I die I will find that polish prince who invited teutonic order to settle and I will kick hes ass.
kokosz33 1 month ago
@kokosz33
ok good cause I was going to do that but recently I've been dreading that future duel.
sanjosesharks65 1 week ago
@Elwetritsch007 Th north eastern part of former East Prussia - around Memel was taken by Lithuania. Earlier you wrote that all of East Prussia was taken by Lithuania.
As for Poland's demand to all of East Prussia,when did this happen - or did you make it up?
I clearly know much more about it than you. To take your idea, you should not write about things of which you know nothing.
Perverse is your desire to change history by lying about it.
alanheath 1 month ago 3
@Elwetritsch007 Of course I can compare Alaska to East Prussia - it was you who suggested cutting something off leads to poverty.
Poland did not demand all of East Prussia after WW1.
Lithuania occupied Klaipedia - yes - not all of East Prussia as you claimed.
Who says Germans are eternal Nazis (accepting of course some Nazis who may wish to believe this)? Who says Poles are just victims?
alanheath 1 month ago
@alanheath 'Lithuania occupied Klaipedia - yes'
But you have to remeber one fact - in the middle-ages it was a part of the Kingdom of Lithuania, so I might say that we took what was ours, though lost long ago...
Notanga0920 1 week ago
@Notanga0920 I did not want to go into the rights and wrongs of it - I was pointing out to the former idiot who claimed that Lithuania occupied all of East Prussia!
alanheath 1 week ago
@alanheath After the WW2 government considered the fact of attaching the East Prussia (Kaliningrad Oblast) to Lithuania, but Stalin had forbidden it. Also, around the 1965 the right to this territory was questioned again, sadly it remained only a question. In addition, there were created even some maps with Lithuanian names of towns and villages.
Notanga0920 1 week ago
@Elwetritsch007 The economy stagnated everywhere in the 1930s - being geographical separated has nothing to do with it. Alaska is separated from the USA + it does not seem to do it any harm.
When was East Prussia threatened by Poland?
When did Lithuania 'annex the area completely' (sic) ?
You made those two things up which will obviously give a perverted view of history.
alanheath 1 month ago
@alanheath why do you even bother to give an answere to guys like him...
satanic666sonic 1 month ago
@satanic666sonic Good point - I often ask myself why I bother!
alanheath 1 month ago
Germany didnt really start the war.Now it s proven and we know that Stalin had plans to invade Germany while Germany was busy with Britain on the west in 1940.
eulex10 1 month ago
@eulex10 What a load of nonsense. Stalin was perfectly happy to go to war against the UK if the Nazis asked him to as he revealed to Molotov. The Nazis started the war against Poland on 1 September 1939, followed by the Soviet attack on that country on 17 September 1939.
alanheath 1 month ago
@alanheath would like to see where u got this from.Ribentrop was begging MOlotov in November 1940 during Belin meetup to join war effort against UK,offering Russians chunk of India(at that time British colony)Molotov turned him down saying:"If you are so certain Britan is finished,why British planes are shelling us now and we are meeting in a bunker"?So,please shut up,your knowledge of WWII history is next to nothing OK?
eulex10 1 month ago
@eulex10 Moscow archives.
What evidence do you have that my knowledge of WW2 history is next to nothing, or did you make this up yourself? If so, why did you make it up?
alanheath 1 month ago
millions of russians died, 6 million jews, gypseys murdered and we're to feel sorry for these germans who were "cold". Oh I forgot no one realized the jews were being gassed and shot. They took no responsibility.
monseyhunt 1 month ago
@monseyhunt jews started that war
eulex10 1 month ago
@eulex10 Neither Hitler nor Stalin were Jewish so I fail to see how Jews started the war.
alanheath 1 month ago
Since seeing this, I looked at the election results in pre Nazi Germany on a provincial basis. East Prussia had the highest support for the nationalists and then the Nazis of all provinces.
alanheath 3 months ago
Here we see the bridge at Dirschau (Tczew) - occasionally suggested as one of the places where the first shots of WW2 were fired.
To get across the Vistula here the family would have had to have gone through Soviet lines given that they had already said that Elbląg was in Soviet hands.
alanheath 3 months ago 4
Schlobitten is now Słobity in Poland. Elbling (Elbląg) is around 30km to the west so when the family heard that the Soviets were there, they must have realised that they were cut off. At least one refugee train was sent into Elbląg whilst under Soviet control. The Soviets reached the coast at the Vistula Lagoon around 23 January completely surrounding East Prussia. On that day Doenitz started evacuating as Koch and Borrmann had failed to do so.
Naturally the Nazis were the first to flee.
alanheath 3 months ago 2
At 0028. Eastern Prussia, now eastern Poland ... Shouldn't that be Western Poland?
Brera011 6 months ago
@Brera011
No, the eastern half of Poland the Soviets invaded in 1939 was never returned to Poland. They got a piece of Germany in return. So in essence, Poland shifted to the west.
GermanWarFiles 6 months ago 4
@GermanWarFiles that's so confusing, lol
MrSnapply 5 months ago
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reyter2007 4 weeks ago in playlist East Prussia / Masuria
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@GermanWarFiles
No, Poland never got back western Ukraine which J. V. Stalin liberated in 1939. Poland did get back western Poland from Germany. They can thank J. V. Stalin for that. Germans can be thankful after J. V. Stalin crushed their armies he showed mercy upon then even after the previously unheard barbarism and savagery the fascists, led by Germany, visited upon the Soviet Union.
reyter2007 4 weeks ago in playlist East Prussia / Masuria
@Brera011 Former East Prussia is now in north eastern Poland and the Kaliningrad Administrative Department (Oblast) of Russia.
alanheath 3 months ago