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  • All I had to do was defend!?!?!

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

  • First time i ever played this was on the ps1, i was a little kid, and i actually killed him. I didn't understand what it meant by the speach when i attacked him, and bloody hell. He was hard >.> did it in 1 go took ages though. I wish i knew about this when i was younger >.> (Dark knight cecil fight)

  • And as for his so called "zombie gas", I think it inflicts the "slow" status effect. It's what it does in the PSP version anyway.

  • If you really do want a challenge in becoming a paladin, read my other comment in the video. If you can't find it, all i did was buy a few hi-potions (about 10-15 should do) and use them when you are in between 100-200 HP when fighting the Dark Knight.

  • good thing i subbed to you, it took me days to figure out that i was supposed to do nothing. So where do i go? HCbailly.

  • XD where do you get these clips?!

  • Actually. Strenghten is really useful against bosses. My Fire 2 dealt ~700 damage on Scarmiglione but after 1 Strenghten it went up to ~1600. Not that hes hard, its just a note for future bosses.

  • I have beaten the dark cecil with physical attacks but it's REALLY difficult to win. You're better off just waiting during this battle.

  • Before i knew i could defend i would buy a bunch of hi-potions and go and defeat him, it'd take forever and a day.

  • I know that Cecil was supposed to have a change of heart and what not in the story, but after owning everyone with the Death bringer sword all the way up the mountain, when he came back as a Lv.1 Paladin i was like

    "D:.....FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!­" lol but hey, at least he got stronger later on. good game.

  • LOL!!!  Army Of Darkness is a classic!!!

  • Kain gets white magic in the sequel.

  • I just remember was atacking and attacking at Dark Cecil, until I understand what was saying the voice.

  • if you like the battle theme then watch?v=C8vz186pjY0

  • LOL I just bought final fantasy tactics. thanks for the info! 0:29

  • rifftrax!!!

    

  • You know, Bailly, it's a good idea to strip Cecil's equipment off so you can sell it when you return to Mysidia. Otherwise, it just disappears.

  • Lol, wooops! I didn't know he died on his own so I actually killed him with attacks. I had 83 hp left haha!

  • if cecil's stats carry over than i sure am glas i spent a week fast foward grinding him to like level 60 at speeds 3333% to 5000% really powerful PCs ftw

  • does kain have white magic in tay

  • @MegaKidicarus Yes he does. Not immediately, but he aquires it at one point in the game, much like Cecil just did here in this video.

  • YES! i got past him! :D

  • i cant get past Scarmiglion on my DS verision :(

  • lol get moive clips

  • so u didnt attack dark knight cecil

  • Scarmiglione is really hard in the DS version.

  • @mattiathekaiju

    Try do it on low level challenge, i had to CHEAT to be able to get past this boss >.> i want to play it low level bit with around 300 hp and doing less than 100 damage per hit. It was close to imposible without gil or items.

  • There's a tell-tale sign that Cain was meant to get white magic. His "Spirit" or "Will" rating at the very beginning of the game is 12 points, which isn't too far below what Rosa and Porom start out with.

    I kind of wish there had been a fighter-type character in this game that could use a touch of black magic. His Intelligence rating would have to be somewhat low, and his selection of spells quite wimpy - which would make magic useful only in a few special instances.

  • @KarlBonner1982 And the "Kain casting a spell" SNES sprites too. I've heard there's a beta screenshot with him actually having the white magic command in his command box, but I've never seen it.

    I'm wondering if he would've got the same spells he has in The After Years...

  • @AquaRing Ya know, I wonder if it's possible to hack the game so that Kain *does* have white magic? If you can hack save states in the notoriously cryptic Seiken Densetsu 3, I bet Final Fantasy IV would be a piece of cake.

  • lol so many plotholes. How the hell did Tellis suddenly learn meteo? what happened to jog his memory?

  • Meant Tella =/

  • @Asildur This one is rather easy to explain. Tellah, being such an old man, lost the ability to cast many spells (Alzheimer's?) , but the light of the Lunarians jogged his memory. As evidenced by Golbez and FuSoYa, Lunarians had the ability to cast Meteor. Lunarians have had contact with the people of earth, so Meteor was taught to the people of earth. Since Tellah lost a lot of his memory, he simply never remembered learning it. It makes sense since Tellah was known for being a "master" sage.

  • when i first got up to the part when light cecil fights dark cecil, i got stuck on it for a month because i didn't know you had to wait

  • i like the Autolycus version of goody little two shoes

  • Question: If you do hack this game to give tellah 99 MP is there an animation and everything for Meteo? Or will there be no animation and all the enemies die or will nothing happen?

  • It took me like, AN HOUR to kill Dark Cecil (I didn't know you were supposed to do nothing) then my battery fell out of my old-school GBA. FFFFFFFFUUUUUU-

    So I spent another hour to kill him.

    THEN I saw this video, and RAGED SO HARD AT MYSELF.

  • AoD and MST3K references = awesome

    I grinder my dark knight all the way to level 30 only to realize paladin starts at lvl 1

  • behind you means that they're behing you... as in they'll fight with you. -_-

  • ive been able to beat him with attacking it took FOREVER.

  • In Final Fantasy 4 the After Years Kain gains White Magic

  • HEE HEE!!!!! EVIL DEAD!!! AWESOME!!!!!

  • Wow...the secret to almighty holy power is in a Funhouse. That was easy!

  • un the remake this fight is like 1000 times harder cause when he does his gas move it poisons, blinds, slows, sap and silence

    so he makes you take damage, stops your attack speed, makes you atacks harder to land and stops you casting magic

    also he has high damage

  • @SuperSayianSquirtle You realize that if you use the cure magic method for his undead form, he'll never counter-attack you, right?

  • @MigeulP

    wow really?

    considering i never knew that i feal like a freacking idiot

  • @SuperSayianSquirtle S'alright. I had to look it up too. 

  • Oh God, I LOVE this scene, especially in the DS version. <3

  • Army of Darkness reference XD

  • Other then Zeromus' theme, the music when cecil fights the dark knight, or himself whatever.. is by far my favorite.

  • Suck Gas! lmao I'm surprized that wasn't censored, but then again this is the japanese version translated rofl

  • Man, I still love this last scene. One of the best video game moments ever. I'd say this one scene where he becomes a paladin is the reason I've played FF games ever since. I remember sitting in my friend's house playing this, just in awe.

  • i remember this being a lot harder in the ds version

  • Suck gas? Uh..... Wooww...... xD

  • i thought how tella just randomly gets everything right away,with barely any text accompanying it.was kinda odd

    just"oh.hey,i remember stuff!"

    --tella remembered stuff--

  • u know, after i fought him a couple times, and died, i learned something.

    before u face him the second time, make ur front row be in the back and ur back in the front, that way when u fight him the second time, it wil be a back attack and ur row, with cecil, will be in the front, and the magic casters in the back.

    only for those who need help... just saying

  • Suck gas? Really? lol

  • I'm daft so I defeated the Dark Knight with physical attacks, with the help of a lot of hi-potions! XP

  • You claim that you don't prepare for the back attack here because "that takes away from the intended challenge of the battle." I can appreciate that viewpoint, but in your Final Fantasy VII video you DO switch your rows ahead of time before the Motor Ball battle. You should probably develop a consistent position on this issue. You wouldn't want your viewers to think you were wishy-washy, or that you just say certain things for effect.

  • I like how Golbez didn't feel you were a threat and left you alive, only to turn around and send the 4 Fiends to destroy you! Makes perfect sense!

  • Yes, it does make perfect sense. Cecil became a MAJOR threat as soon as he attained the powers of the Paladin. Golbeze didn't expect the Mysidians to help him in any way, nor did he perceive Tella as being a threat either.

  • The first fiend attacked before he became a Paladin. It's just something dumb in the storyline that doesn't make sense, typical flaw where the villian doesn't kill the good guy when he has numerous chances. Don't try to rationalize it, it's just funny, and my post was meant to be humorous.

  • I was planning on getting FF4 for the DS but after reading many of the comments about it + seeing a couple of battle recordings on it I think I'll pass and just play the PS version heh. I enjoy FF games because of a) the story/character development and b) the fact they're NOT rock hard means I can enjoy "(a)" more.

    Making it rock hard just makes it frustrating for me.

  • IMO FFIVDS is the best version because it is difficult, and in a good way. Pretty much the first six FF games are far TOO easy (especially the remakes). IVDS is difficult, but not overly so, and once you figure out the strategy for a boss it's not that difficult. and there's a trick that makes pretty much all bosses quite easy (use white spell slow; it almost always works on bosses). only boss that's unfair hard is CPU since attack node can spam lazer which almost always insta-kill.

  • I personally find the FF4 on PS more than difficult enough so considering the DS version is even harder I don't think I'd want to play it.

    Also, I personally found the earlier FFs harder than the later ones O.o

  • its not impossible to kill him if u actually fight jsut bring 10 hi potions or so

  • In the DS version of the game if you cast blk maic spells on scarmiglione (The 'g' is silent) his counter inflicts almost a wide range of status on you, it's very bad. Also, he counters physical attacks with cursed elegy, which slows everyone.

  • g is not silent.  pronunciation in game is (scar-mih-glee-ohn)

  • So Cecil has... green eyes.

    Didn't see that one coming.

  • Geez, overpowered much? TO much power. I've heard the DS is much harder, do you get all of this stuff in that version?

  • I'm bad Cecil and you're good Cecil. Little goody two-shoes. *click* *BOOM*

  • "what? he's bad? aw, crap."

    that made me laugh.

  • it is possible to defeat him with physical attacks but he has about 100,000 hp so yeah... also kain does get white maigc but not till the sequel ffiv: the after years

  • it is possible to defeat him with physical attacks but he has about 100,000 hp so yeah...

  • "Suck gas and become a zombie!"

    There's no zombie status in this game...

    "Osh-"

  • I believe it's supposed to inflict Curse.

  • @Zarggg It's supposed to turn you into undead and prevent Cure Spells from healing you. But it's bugged, and it actually doesn't do anything.

  • but,HC,why not remove garifagan's equipment?,you do it with every other character....

  • i dont cause i like to savor kicking the bastards ass

  • the most awesome clips ever

  • Good......bad..........im the guy with the paladins sword

  • This guy is a PAIN IN THE ASS!!! In DS version...

  • I know the Graphics ARE bad, but it IS a more HARDER and more CHALLENGING so I took DS instead of SNES.

  • love the MST3k in there. lol

  • When Scarmiglione says "suck gas and become a zombie", I'm guessing that means he's trying to curse you. If you're cursed, all your stats are halved. He does that in response to spells cast on him.

  • Also, in the DS version, it is possible to cast Meteor (or Meteo) with Tella without hacking. When you beat the game, you can start a new game plus where all rare summons, Golden and Silver Apples, and Soma Drops, and Augments carry over. Soma Drops raise your max MP by 10, so if you save at least one and give it to Tella during the new game plus, he can deal a 1-hit KO to any boss he encounters after learning the spell. The only problem is it destroys the logic of a future cut-scene.

  • Haha perfect clip, Im a huge trekkie, but one of my biggest gripes is how self-absorbed Shatner is and im really enjoying your LPs, keep it up! Quick question if you see this, will you ever do any of the spin off-games like dirge of cerberus or crystal chronicles?

  • Highly unlikely.

  • would have been cooler if you used Marlon Brando's Jorel as the voice of that mysterious presence.

  • I killed him once without doing nothing. You know berserk status is good.

    specially when you have been beating him for while and then heal to full then use your item.

    I did this as child. I never realized to wait ultil I learned english.

  • Scarmiglione = Peter Lorre?

  • If you like Peter Lorre you should see Fritz Lang's M.....very very dark

  • GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrBAHHHHHHHHHHH!!­...........bloot....

  • Cecil's stats carry over? So, could you in theory level up to 99 twice?

  • @Eldxale Paladin Cecil always starts witht he same stats.

  • my name is close to Paladin, aladdin

  • LOL, ARMY OF DARKNESS!

  • You say you like to pretend you havn't played before...but you kept removing equipment...heh.

  • i cant beat this boss!

    is he harder in the ds version or am i not high enoth lv.

    (lv 20)

  • You are higher lvl than I was when I got to that part :-p

    It's not THAT hard. All you have to do is cast twin magic and let Tellah be the healer. Use Hi-potions with Cecil too and phoenix downs. After 15 rounds or so the boss will be dead, I sayh 15-20 because he casts slow

  • Im stuck on the king of baron monster now.

  • I didn't know that you had to do nothing. I did it the hard way.

  • The game pretty much TELLS you to do nothing if you attack.

  • Lol, "bye" as he falls off the cliff.

  • lol awesome refrences

  • S****t he is an ass hole what lvs are u.

  • the DS version is so much cooler

  • ah i hate hall of mirrors. especially the one in guild wars... seriously, took me 3 week.

  • No...it's not white magic, it's releasing the good..................Sorry, but I had to do a Little Nicky joke...

  • Lmfao Relase the gooood * turns some1 into a wabbit *

  • what movie the scene at 04:33 to 05:00 is from.

  • I believe it is start trek 6. But I could be wrong.

  • isnt that a star trek movie?

  • When i tried to vs the Scarmiglion i lost wen i done physical attacks and the i done it with magic and i still died wat the hell could someone plz help and reply i have ff4 the one on ds and post it as soon as possible i all ready deafeted the first form of scarmiglion but not it's second form

  • I sooo expected a Superman reference. Shatner makes up for it though.

  • I tried physical attacks... and died.I should have started watching this Lets play earlier.How could I loose there?!

  • meteo doesnt wokr i tried but what happens is he sits there forever with ... over there game

  • KINDA a bummer cecil is level 1 again, eh?

  • Not really. He gains levels like nothing else until he gets to about 20.

  • Usually I tear posts apart, but this does it's own justice. When you graduate from elementary school try again; you could try using Microsoft Word for spell check before you post. Clicking Audio Preview might help you realize how terrible that was =D

  • You have to be trying now. Sorry* for* opinion* :)

    But no worries. Grammar's just a peeve with me.

  • I like this theme as well. Also one of my favorites. But I like the theme from FFVI even more, when you fight the Atma Weapon on the Floating Continent.

  • omg he is like impossible in the ds version!

  • Alternate between healing and the Defend command. Just don't attack it and let it do its little speech.

  • no im good now but then i stuck on the dark evle it fricken does 9999 daamage wth?

  • The first form of the dark Elf is unbeatable. After getting slaughtered, the game continues with your entire team having 1 HP, and it gives you the opportunity to heal and re-equip yourself with your best equipment.

  • nope the game ends for me :(

  • Did not know that's how you defeated his dark half. It took me an hour to figure that one out.

    Loved the rifftrax.

  • It took me forever to figure out how to beat the dark version of cecil when i was a kid i got so mad at this game then i realized you dont attack just keep urself alive

  • lol I think it's funny how you didn't change rows before hand in this video, but you changed rows in your FF7 LP before the boss you fight before you leave Midgar.

  • LITTLE GOODY TWO SHOES ! LITTLE GOODY TWO SHOES....yea........good, bad...im the guy with the gun.

  • I always liked how in this game, many characters have limited magic or no magic at all. Sure, it's nice to go grinding with Espers/Materia/whatever and give everybody EVERY SPELL, but you lose some uniqueness that way.

  • I always loved this part of the game. When Cecil becomes a Paladin, I just get overwhelmed with emotion. There's just something about how he overcomes his past that gets me choked up.

  • "Cecil became a Paladin"

    Special Ed - "YAAAAAAYYYYYY I BECAME A PALADIN YAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!" lol!

  • i love the archfiend boss fight music <3

  • When Cecil Said ''Who Are You?'' You Could Have Used The Darth Vader Scene ''I Am Your Father!'' Hahaha. Good Job HC.

  • Crazy how much easier this is than the DS version lol!

  • It is maybe 1/8 of the challenge from FFIV on DS

  • xD that was freakin hilarious! 'suck gas and become a zombie!'

  • loved the movie scene when was two cecils lol! XD

  • Hmm, its tellah or something in the DS version

  • I thought he through a spear through the mirror to kill Cecil.

  • I thought that he through a spear through the mirrors to kill Cicel.

  • Haha XD Gafgarion. I was pissed when he betrayed me. I was giggling like a school girl the first time I played through FFT with him. "Yes! I got a Dark Knight!" Then he betrayed meee. He wiped my ass out. Seeing as Ramza was a Black Mage with summoning magic and all his gear was tiered towards magic prowess. I used everyone else as shields so I didn't die XD "OSHI-!Dark Sword(Whatever the HP drain was..) OSHIII! FRANK(Ramza) IS DEADED!?!? NOOOOOU"

  • on my first playthrough of FFT(if you don't include the one where i didn't figure out how to add aditional units to a battle and lost 10 times over), I removed Gafgarions gear as soon as he joined the party. the best armor always goes on his majesty Ramza.

  • so i just killed him now

  • i did nontihng and i just died... that thing to just stay there dont work

  • you don't attack, you have to defend three attacks

  • Does anyone know where I can get the dancing dagger?(At least I think it's called that.)

  • ist that in ffV?

  • yes but its also in IV

  • You can buy it in Mist village. Yes, the same Mist village that you burned to the ground.

  • I Have defeated him with physical attacks in the easy version.

    This was when I was too young to fully understand the game, though.

  • Ya it is possible to defeat Dark cecil with just normal attacks

    the first time i played ff4 and got to this point i just kept attacking and like 10 mins later i killed him

    I was 6 and could barly read so i couldnt really understand most of the shit going on in this game

  • The Lunar theme here is also one of my favorites, slow but epic.

  • This scene suffered the worst from the North American FFII release weakening. Without ever possessing the Dark Wave, how are you to know that it will eventually kill the user? When you know what Dark Wave does, the scene takes on a much more symbolic and artistic meaning.

    The darkness in Cecil's heart is destroyed by itself.

  • break turns opponents to stone it kills them instantly only used on players it stones

  • It's funny that Tella doesn't know Death when he learns all of his spells, as sometimes his Remember command can cast Death.

  • For some reason, I expected a Jor-El joke.

  • Well, I used a Game Genie trying to figure out if he will use Meteo. I gave him 999 MP and he still couldn't cast it. Also, just for kicks, I gave 999 MP to Cain too.

  • tthhiiss iiss My BOOOMSTICK!!!!!!!!

  • Love the Army of Darkness clip thrown in there!

  • For the longest time, I thought the secret to beating Dark Cecil was using Cure on him. Wasn't until the 3rd or 4th time that I realized you could just do nothing.

  • have YOU actuly killed the dark cecil?

  • Yes, with many many Hi-Potions.

  • easy huh. >_>

  • I did the same thing I never knew until now that you can do nothing I'm so annoyed

  • It's funny how Cecil now is level 1 :P My guess is it's because of a combination of dificult coding and white magic :P And lazyness.

  • Yeah, I doubt it. Look at his health at level 1. And I believe his weapon is stronger than the Dark Knight's weapon. His health is higher than the Dark Knight's by like 200 and the Knight is 18.