Good gravy, you'd think I would know what it is, since I bought it from the original transit authority that ran it and got it with all receipts, manuals, parts catalogs, maitenence logs- hundreds of pages- along with an additional new rebuilt engine to drop into it (still in it's shrink wrap). But then, I guess you saw a 55 second video, so what do I know?
@sirloyal I guess you would also know that 2 stroke detroits are not classified as "blown" since they can not run without a blower, and the blower is used for scavenging, not increasing the air charge for combustion. Show me a 6V71 without a blower? What DO you know?
The Greater Lafayette Public Transportation Authority (now CityBus) of Lafayette, IN, was another transit agency which specified the 6V-71TA in their Flxible Metro buses. In their case, though, the buses were 35' long.
Now that's quality. Any wonder these things were used on standby generators where they might sit for months and months then expect to start unfailingly every time and immediately run up to peak working revs with no warm-up. Go you good thing.
hmmm...MBTA (Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority) ran ALL detroit motors (6v71's) for the longest time, probably up to about 6yrs ago, and sometimes you still here the ole' Detroits roarin' under the hoods
Definite misfire at the start of firing up, then it settles down, possibly an injector on the way out / timing problem? Running a bit fast as well by the sounds of it. This motor would run extra sweet if everything was fixed on it.
detroits are a 2 stroke motor and need the blower to scavange the air so they are always blown but are classed as "naturally aspirated" if they dont have a turbo
Correct. The blower does not pressurize the in coming air like a compressor, just delivers air like a fan. Hence in this application, it is not a supercharger. Interestingly, the Rootes blower was used for ventilating underground mines before engines came along.
The Detroit 2 strokes came out as either N (natural aspiration), T (Turbocharged non-aftercooled), TA (Turbocharged & Aftercooled) and TTA (Twin Turbocharged & Aftercooled) - so if it's the first one you've seen, where have ya been all this time???
On a Cummins "N" stood for 4 valve head. 4 valves per cylinder. Two stroke Diesels will not work unless they have an engine driven supercharger. So it's unlikely you could have a naturally aspirated Detroit 2 stroke Diesel.
(Just read roadwolf2 comment)
Two strokes never really caught on in the U.K. Foden and Commer had their own versions in the 50's and 60's and Bedford used Detroit's in the 70's, but they were never popular.
The engine driven supercharger you're referring to is actually a Rootes style scavenging blower which is used for scavenging exhaust gases out of the engine and introoducing clean filtered air into the engine for the new cycle! Roadwolf2 is right in saying that! As far as I know (and I know a little bit about them), they weren't the only two stroke diesel in existance... Krupps of Germany had one as did Chrysler UD - as you say Foden and Commer had them as well!
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lovetrain442 8 months ago
I miss the 2 strokes, I ran a 6V92 for 2 years, it would turn 2400 rpm and sounded do cool when it was wound up. All 335 hp. :-)
These motors were dragonflies but I still loved them. Thanks for the video.
123MrBurg 11 months ago
I went to a diesel tech school along time ago.The shop had a 6-71 fire up and it
had a run away situation and could not be stut down.A flat board was supose to be
put on the air intake,but too late.A studant lifted his shurt and put his chest on
the intake side of the blower and instant large hickie and belly rupture.Not to smart.
6122gerald 1 year ago
@amusichound Nor the correct valve covers. It's a 71 here.
electricshockproof 1 year ago
What kind of bus is that?
Busdude97 1 year ago
sounds great you cant beat the leaky beast of a detroit
julescicle 1 year ago
love the sound with the turbo in the background.
retcan 2 years ago
this aint a cold start! It's only 45! I pray for mornings like that!
countryboy732 2 years ago 8
Where is Blacksburg?
anewbeggining21 2 years ago
what does something like that go for?
rednecktruck19 2 years ago
Sweet running 6-71! No idle roll and she kicked right over. No block heater used I assume? I expected a lot more blue smoke and roll....
DagonTracnos 2 years ago
Blacksburg Transit Authority ordered all of their transit buses with 6V71's. I know it because I saw the whole fleet for sale in person.
sirloyal 2 years ago
MBTA had the 6V71T (turbo charged) gmc rts buses that were from 1985
dredre1315 2 years ago
Its a 6v71, listen to it.
studpuppy69 2 years ago
that's a 692 not a serie 71 but heck it's in good shape to start and run as smooth as she did on the first go.
detroitmansilver92 2 years ago
Good gravy, you'd think I would know what it is, since I bought it from the original transit authority that ran it and got it with all receipts, manuals, parts catalogs, maitenence logs- hundreds of pages- along with an additional new rebuilt engine to drop into it (still in it's shrink wrap). But then, I guess you saw a 55 second video, so what do I know?
sirloyal 2 years ago 15
whatever you say
detroitmansilver92 2 years ago
It's a 6V92TA, you're correct. =]
valleyfever 2 years ago
@sirloyal I guess you would also know that 2 stroke detroits are not classified as "blown" since they can not run without a blower, and the blower is used for scavenging, not increasing the air charge for combustion. Show me a 6V71 without a blower? What DO you know?
poppiesrule 1 year ago
@sirloyal wow a whole new motor ready to drop in. that is a good deal
dieselman1988 1 year ago
@detroitmansilver92 You crazy, listen to that high rev idle it's a 71
AntoDamicoShow 1 year ago
The Greater Lafayette Public Transportation Authority (now CityBus) of Lafayette, IN, was another transit agency which specified the 6V-71TA in their Flxible Metro buses. In their case, though, the buses were 35' long.
ClassicTVMan81 2 years ago
Now that's quality. Any wonder these things were used on standby generators where they might sit for months and months then expect to start unfailingly every time and immediately run up to peak working revs with no warm-up. Go you good thing.
flyingscrapyard 2 years ago
These engines were built to last!! If the government wouldn't have made strict emmission laws, Detroit will still make a ton of these engines!!
BernardR30 2 years ago
Buses in Ireland used this engine into the early 2000's. They were mated to Allison V730-3 speed transmissions.
moncai1 2 years ago
6v92 not 71series.
team486 2 years ago
I used to work for the LACMTA that had flx metros the 2800' series with a detroit inline 6-71 ddec turbo built around early 90's
theangrytruckdriver 3 years ago
hmmm...MBTA (Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority) ran ALL detroit motors (6v71's) for the longest time, probably up to about 6yrs ago, and sometimes you still here the ole' Detroits roarin' under the hoods
fuddmethen 3 years ago
They only went to the 6V-92TA when they bought RTS's, when GMC sold out to TMC/MCI in 1987.
ClassicTVMan81 2 years ago
is this an air start?
figzig 3 years ago
thats not a bad injector its just a fuel knock because its cold
Dirtbikeracer250 3 years ago
Definite misfire at the start of firing up, then it settles down, possibly an injector on the way out / timing problem? Running a bit fast as well by the sounds of it. This motor would run extra sweet if everything was fixed on it.
markthebusman 3 years ago 2
These motor are a TWO stroke design,,,,,,,the all start like that when there are cold.....and GOD KNOW HOW MANY MILES ARE ON IT.....BUS ENGINES
chrisfdny1 3 years ago
the engine looks nice
jaggass 3 years ago
detroits are a 2 stroke motor and need the blower to scavange the air so they are always blown but are classed as "naturally aspirated" if they dont have a turbo
roadwolf2 3 years ago 3
Correct. The blower does not pressurize the in coming air like a compressor, just delivers air like a fan. Hence in this application, it is not a supercharger. Interestingly, the Rootes blower was used for ventilating underground mines before engines came along.
flyingscrapyard 2 years ago
A guy can change the gears on the blower drive to speed it up then it does create boost pressure!
breitkreuz1 2 years ago
no problem for a detroit engine
jaggass 3 years ago
where did ya get it?
s172mch 3 years ago
I have a 6v71 and it is turbocharged. Technically it is a 6v71T....T for turbo. Mine is in a 1987 city bus
jacuzzibusguy 3 years ago
Is that a turbocharger I see on top of the engine? If so that's the first 6V-71 I've ever seen with one.
dhmarley 3 years ago
The Detroit 2 strokes came out as either N (natural aspiration), T (Turbocharged non-aftercooled), TA (Turbocharged & Aftercooled) and TTA (Twin Turbocharged & Aftercooled) - so if it's the first one you've seen, where have ya been all this time???
huppypuppy 3 years ago
On a Cummins "N" stood for 4 valve head. 4 valves per cylinder. Two stroke Diesels will not work unless they have an engine driven supercharger. So it's unlikely you could have a naturally aspirated Detroit 2 stroke Diesel.
(Just read roadwolf2 comment)
Two strokes never really caught on in the U.K. Foden and Commer had their own versions in the 50's and 60's and Bedford used Detroit's in the 70's, but they were never popular.
Kokoots 3 years ago
The engine driven supercharger you're referring to is actually a Rootes style scavenging blower which is used for scavenging exhaust gases out of the engine and introoducing clean filtered air into the engine for the new cycle! Roadwolf2 is right in saying that! As far as I know (and I know a little bit about them), they weren't the only two stroke diesel in existance... Krupps of Germany had one as did Chrysler UD - as you say Foden and Commer had them as well!
huppypuppy 3 years ago
i have one
ilovebabyfeeders 3 years ago
Is this an ex-Blacksburg Transit Flx?
ClassicTVFan82 3 years ago