I was a really technical lifter(back in the days). There was no chance of me ever pressing anything out, It was either locked or missed. I think, keep the pressout rule pure in the snatch, but on jerks, if you are strong enough to press out and hold these kind of weights, they should give it to you. Then, technicians and beasts can both do their thing. I love great technique, but I have also seen some superhuman feats of pure beastlyness on lifts that were turned down. Both things have a place.
I think that what's most frustrating about the press-out rule is that it's unevenly enforced. It looked to me like Dolega pressed out 227 (see 11:24) as bad or worse than Smorchkov did 225. Seems like the judges are more lenient when the press out occurs after the initial catch than during it. Also probably doesn't hurt to be the defending champion. I wonder if the commentators said anything about it.
I'd like to cast my vote for the press-out rule. A properly locked-out snatch or jerk is a beautiful thing to behold. It requires enormous strength, lightning speed, and perfect timing. It feels amazing to accomplish and it's satisfying to be rewarded for one with three white lights. A pressed-out lift, on the other hand, feels like garbage and hurts to look at. This isn't powerlifting; "close enough" shouldn't count. If I wanted to watch a press-out contest, I'd google Andy Bolton.
I really can't get what was so difficult tightening those locks. One Iranian in the lower category checked those personally, one B group super heavy lifter dropped the discs down and this thing with Klokov. Good publicity for Werk San.
seems like Klokov complained about the discs on the left hand side of the bar were not tightened up (for his 227kg jerk) and I agree with him as the replay video showed some separation between the discs -could this contribute to the missed jerk?
@mimicat11 Apparently Klokov thought it did make a difference. I honestly couldn't say, I have no idea what it's like to attempt to stabilize 227 kilos over my head.
Was very much looking forward to this. Thanks! ... Also, impressed with Bonks performance. I know he trains a lot with Marcin and it appears to be paying off.
Klokov for me !
DXdu26 1 month ago
СУКИ!!!!!!! Сморчков ЧЕМПИОН МИРА,225 кг не засчитали,бюрократы!!!
Rossius630 6 months ago
Jeszcze się tam Irek Chmielewski kręcił uśmiechnięty... :( ...a dziś mają go chować :)
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PanPancerny12 7 months ago
@PanPancerny12 Irek Chełmowski raczej
natalka4252 5 months ago
at 956 it wasnt a pressout but oscillation that may have earned the red lights
leaba 1 year ago
haha, he did deadlift for last attempt
athleticchak 1 year ago
I was a really technical lifter(back in the days). There was no chance of me ever pressing anything out, It was either locked or missed. I think, keep the pressout rule pure in the snatch, but on jerks, if you are strong enough to press out and hold these kind of weights, they should give it to you. Then, technicians and beasts can both do their thing. I love great technique, but I have also seen some superhuman feats of pure beastlyness on lifts that were turned down. Both things have a place.
meatitarian 1 year ago 12
Nice deadlift at 14:10!
KizZBG 1 year ago
Cheers Frank, enjoyed that as missed it at the time.
wigan105 1 year ago
Who are the commentators?
cactrotman 1 year ago
I think that what's most frustrating about the press-out rule is that it's unevenly enforced. It looked to me like Dolega pressed out 227 (see 11:24) as bad or worse than Smorchkov did 225. Seems like the judges are more lenient when the press out occurs after the initial catch than during it. Also probably doesn't hurt to be the defending champion. I wonder if the commentators said anything about it.
csaweightlifting 1 year ago
I'd like to cast my vote for the press-out rule. A properly locked-out snatch or jerk is a beautiful thing to behold. It requires enormous strength, lightning speed, and perfect timing. It feels amazing to accomplish and it's satisfying to be rewarded for one with three white lights. A pressed-out lift, on the other hand, feels like garbage and hurts to look at. This isn't powerlifting; "close enough" shouldn't count. If I wanted to watch a press-out contest, I'd google Andy Bolton.
csaweightlifting 1 year ago 7
@csaweightlifting powerlifting has a similar rule, if I recall correctly...
kaga13 1 year ago
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Mr83wesley 1 year ago
The press out rule is a tremendous fail. The judges robbed Smorchkov.
lateralus418 1 year ago
Judges must hate smorchkov, geez
AeacusCanti 1 year ago
smortskov got robbed.
BROZKNOWS 1 year ago
ENJOY
franjete 1 year ago 2
I really can't get what was so difficult tightening those locks. One Iranian in the lower category checked those personally, one B group super heavy lifter dropped the discs down and this thing with Klokov. Good publicity for Werk San.
epaluoma 1 year ago
Yep, the press-out rule is getting a little ridiculous.
nova68nova 1 year ago
seems like Klokov complained about the discs on the left hand side of the bar were not tightened up (for his 227kg jerk) and I agree with him as the replay video showed some separation between the discs -could this contribute to the missed jerk?
mimicat11 1 year ago
@mimicat11 Apparently Klokov thought it did make a difference. I honestly couldn't say, I have no idea what it's like to attempt to stabilize 227 kilos over my head.
nova68nova 1 year ago
Pressout is a terrible rule!!!!!!!
crackyflipside 1 year ago 3
the jerk of the smorchkov is good ..but the jerk of dolega with 227 kg is faill¡¡¡ no lift .
fuerzabruta88 1 year ago
Was very much looking forward to this. Thanks! ... Also, impressed with Bonks performance. I know he trains a lot with Marcin and it appears to be paying off.
JSD808 1 year ago
great commentating.epic battle
jagmany 1 year ago
this is the second time I've heard the world record c&j is 237 by tsagaev, was aramnau's 236 in beijing only good for a total world record?
kaga13 1 year ago
@kaga13
It was also a junior WR.
I believe that the IWF made a mistake and listed 235 as the WR at Beijing, that's why Aramnau went for 236.
Igorek 1 year ago
Thanks for the video, great stuff
andyman820 1 year ago