Will Google's Book Scan Project Transform Academia?

[happinesson]

I agree! Google made the life the students and teachers easy! need an answer? Google it!

[GreenmeGo]

very brilliant insights

[apexxxx10]

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[gabiotta]

60% of the printed material, who is this goon trying to kid. He has got googles check in his pocket.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

try to think outside of your small minded little world breeder

[gabiotta]

Aww does the little baby know more about this than me?

Bless you heart puppydog.

I've worked in bookselling and publishing for years. I know that that is complete bullshit.

What do you know about?

Hmmmmm?

Oh, that's right, fuck all.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

Aww ya see now that was just bad idea dumbass. You obviously did not know who you was fuckin with and now you gotta learn the hard way.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

now i'll try to be gentle with your stupid fuckin ass seeing as how the nigs probable tore you up long before i got here. Just because google says they have scaned 60 of the printed materiel in the world does not mean you need to cower in fear of the really big numbers baby boy. if you stop accrediting your fanciful fuckin god for every thing in the universe for two seconds. you'll realize that we are capable of something like this.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

WE ARE CAPABLE of much more but you and the fundamentalist freaks like you try to stomp out progress whenever you can

[gabiotta]

You are jumping to some conclusions. I'm not in the way of progress and i think that the digitalisation of all academic texts is a wonderful idea. I just know that his figures are wrong. I also know what google is becoming and what it does to beautiful things like knowledge and free speech, it turns them into commodities (notice the adverts dripping off this once great site now).

Btw I have been a confirmed atheist since before you were born.

Think before you type or you'll get owned.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

First off if you're an atheist you shouldn't say bless your heart like a nutbag godder freak.

Second you didn't own me. and third this is a step in the right direction. eventually we can over come

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

Eventually we can overcome the bureaucratic money grubber that are behind this, but for now we have to deal with it so just because google will profit from this doesn't mean anything. I can't afford to do this, you can't afford to do this. so lets give google little credit for taking the initiative

[gabiotta]

What on earth are you bleating about?

I comment on this corporate shill twisting figures in an attmpt to justify taking the contents of his library and making them the intellectual property (or a step towards that) of a massive corporation. You attack me because you don't expend the energy to think about that comment.

What is your problem?

Don't you realise you behaved like a bit of a dick?

Oh, and I would take your point about the bless thing if i hadn't just been patronising you.

[xReBeLiOuSxNaTuRe]

What i'm saying does any of that really matter if it's getting done

[gabiotta]

Well, yes it does. If they get their hands on this material, especially as in most cases it will be without the authors consent, it will be put out of the reach of many poor students. Can't you envisage a day, if this works, when universities stop having libraries and students have to pay to use this service?

Oh, and what you should be saying is, sorry, i was a dick.

[croscream]

I doubt google books has even 10% of the worlds ''commercially'' published books, since that number is listen somewhere around 100 million and google has 7 million books.

Not to mention that national and local archives, museums and scientific institutes have a lot of free and unbound printed paper - which are unique to there own local institutions, that should make you doubt the scope or the usability of google books. I would place my hopes in the European information grid.

[croscream]

Someone here does not believe me? Do you think Europe or North-America comes even close to having a aproximate representation of the collections held in Chinese or Russian libraries, not to mention the hundreds of smaller countries around the world?

Do you really think that all the major libraries in the world also carry goverment information and studies held by all the other major national libraries in the world? No they don't and neither does research get spread beyond certain institutions.

[gabiotta]

I have radically changed my opinion on this subject since the work of project Guttenburg became available to me, free of charge, on my cell phone.

Changes the way i look at it.

[croscream]

I like projects like Gutenberg and the Dutch digital library as well. But if you need primary sources the latter is more helpfull then the first.

[gabiotta]

I agree, but i have to be self-interested at some point.

[croscream]

How can you agree, do you speak Dutch, do you know about what Dutch library i am speaking?

[gabiotta]

Sorry, i misunderstood your point about primary sources.

[croscream]

You have been misunderstanding me the entire conversation. But that is oke, we both speak a different language.

[croscream]

The point i was trying to make was, that it does not matter how many commercially available books google or gutenberg place online. Scientific or historic research is done with different sources. Like archives or research papers. That is the real gold of online literature.

[workingclasssociety]

Why is google allowed to scan copyrighted books? double standard much?

[soundscapenyc]

u read my mind.

[chopin65]

This warms the heart of any educator or librarian. Open access to anyone with a broad band connection is a boon to society. I am behind total open access.

[coupcoupTV]

Academics may realize that knowledge should be free and accessible to the public, but I doubt Google will. They are building a monopoly!

[chopin65]

Don't be so sure that academia will sell away the accumulated knowledge for nothing. How familiar are you with open source education and technologies? Did you know that many universities and colleges are uploading professors lecture notes and classroom materials? More and more books are being made available to anyone with an internet connection. That is a boon to the common man. Yes, I agree that Google is acquiring a market in the process, but I think your view point is too narrow.

[coupcoupTV]

Yes, I am familiar with those subjects. I'm actually in the middle of a CUNY lecture series now. However, G00gle is not

merely acquiring a market, they are exploiting public and academic libraries in order to acquire sole digital intellectual

rights to millions of while shutting out any fair competition.

Watch this interview with Brewster Kahle, a founder of archive org:

Pt1: watch?v=qr5367Aga_w

Pt2: watch?v=OQb_l1z9liI

[davedunlap77]

google has already changed the world in some pretty amazing ways. im always curious to see what theyll come up with next.

[Bucketses]

So soon mediocrity due to lack of education will be an invalid excuse? I think this will lead to even more wealth concentration if the education system doesn't shape up to use these assets right.

[Politicrafty]

It already has. Do you think google and youtube distributed wealth?

[666norton420]

what a great idea!

i'm sure, like me, many of you have wanted and wished for such a thing, especially in recent years with technology increasing as it has, but now the institutions themselves are thinking this way.

maybe higher schools are going the way of the tv channel; with content all over the web, it's decentralized and more independent content creators and distributors are getting some exposure.

;d

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