Dimona bombers' families speak to Al Jazeera - 06 Feb 08

[luv5e1]

Why not have mine fields all around Israeli borders like in many other countries. Trespassing/invation is a security violation. No need for guards, the mines will do the job. Any enemy trespasses sovereign borders, he/she dies.

Arabs' hypporcies is to uses a different type of war: invading Israel land in civil clothes so Israel would not shoot at them. But Israel must do what it must do defend its borders.

[quiksilverrules14]

is hamas suicede bombers killing israeli civilians not collective punishment as a result of the israeli army?

[mateo2]

Hehe, who broke the first UN resolution 181? It was the arabs themselves. But you won't admit that because you are biased. Palestinians have untill now, broken every agreement. And because the arabs have been attacking Israel continuously, they lost land and they will in the future, untill they put themselves together.

And there's nothing you can do about it.

[mateo2]

They aren't at peace with Israel, if they were they wouldn't be burning Israeli flags, screaming death to the jews and plotting terror attacks all the time.

A million dollar question; what came first, the west bank wall or terror attacks?

[Tzimnewman3]

"A million dollar question; what came first, the west bank wall..."

Its a good thing you mentioned the wall. The International Court has rulled that the wall is illegal and violates International Law. The wall has sliced into Palestinian land and taken land which further violates UN RES 242, UN RES 442 and UN RES 181.

You seem to forget that at this moment the West Bank is at Peace with Israel. Ask your Governmnet!! They will confirm this yet they still violate the west Bank.

[Tzimnewman3]

Furthermore, if Israel is treating the West Bank like this when the Palestinians of the West Bank are not attacking Israel then it seems just that Gaza should expect the same if Gaza becomes peacefull. Why should Hamas not defend Gaza when you treat the people of West Bank who are at peace with you like animals.

But like I pointed out to you before, in years Israel will have more Palestinians then Jewish Israelis so I see the problem will be solved its just a matter of time and waiting.

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

It seems that you are not willing to accept the fact that the people in the West Bank have been at peace with Israel. In fact the West Bank as been working with the Israeli Governmnet for Peace.

"Think of it as a punishment for killing jewish people."

So you call for people who are at peace with you to be punished for other peoples actions!!

[Tzimnewman3]

"That's BS. There's no excuse for their terror. No one is standing in their way of freedom, except for their arab brothers, who constantly use them as a tool agains the Jews."

These were your words! Yet when I showed you what stands in the way to their freedom you turn into an ignorant person.

Israel stands in the way of their freedom. But soon the Arab population inside Israel (Israeli Citizens) will continue to grow and outnumber Israeli (Jews). When that happens freedom will come too.

[mateo2]

And that basically means that the leadership under Abbas is unable or unwilling to hunt down the extremists among their people and consequently Israel has taken measures such as security barriers and check points to secure itself like any normal country would do.

[mateo2]

The west bank is on a tiny rope between being rulled buy by either fatah or hamas. Furthermore, Abbas is a palestinian representative only on paper, very little does he have support from the people as has been proven by public pols. If Abbas wouldn't have the support of Israeli government, hamas would take over instantly, pushing the west bank into chaos. Israeli military presence there is of vital importance, especially since we saw what happened after the Gaza pullout.

[Tzimnewman3]

"That's BS. There's no excuse for their terror. No one is standing in their way of freedom, except for their arab brothers, who constantly use them as a tool agains the Jews."

These were your words! Yet when I showed you what stands in the way to their freedom you turn into an ignorant person.

Israel stands in the way of their freedom. But soon the Arab population inside Israel (Israeli Citizens) will continue to grow and outnumber Israeli (Jews). When that happens freedom will come too.

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

It seems that you are not willing to accept the fact that the people in the West Bank have been at peace with Israel. In fact the West Bank as been working with the Israeli Governmnet for Peace.

"Think of it as a punishment for killing jewish people."

So you call for people who are at peace with you to be punished for other peoples actions!!

[mateo2]

And one other thing, as long as there wil be arab terror upon Israel, the settlements will expand. Think of it as a punishment for killing jewish people.

[mateo2]

I see you started with personal attacks on me. A sign of being insecure about your stance. But anyhow, the west bank needs to be secured by checkpoints and fences for the same reason as gaza. The statistics show that suicide attacks have decreasted drastically due to the fences and barriers.

[mateo2]

Glad you mentioned the palestinian rockets. It's an example of utter stupidity, firing missiles that have almost no military value and are fired by Hamas in order to bring back the "jewish occupation excuse."

And the funny part is, you 're telling me I know little about the conflict while you're posting al jazeera videos as a credible source of info.

[Tzimnewman3]

"And the funny part is, you 're telling me I know little about the conflict while you're posting al jazeera videos as a credible source of info."

Al Jazeera is one source which I have videos from. Other sources include CBS (US), CNN (US), BBC News (UK), Sky News (UK), Channel 10 (Israel). A video of Mark Regev (Israeli Governmnet Spokesperson) who admitted that Israel was the first to fire at Gaza on November 4th. Regev is a very strong source!!!!

[Tzimnewman3]

Mateo2,

"jewish occupation excuse."

The "jewish occupation excuse" as you call it still exists in the West Bank. Israel continues to extend settlements inside the West Bank which violates the "road map to peace" agreement which was made. The West Bank does not attack you and try to use peace and look at what you do to them!! You force them to live under Israeli Occupation even during peace. Gaza figths to prevent Israel doing what it does in the West Bank!

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

"And the funny part is, you 're telling me I know little about the conflict while you're posting al jazeera videos as a credible source of info."

CNN (American News)

watch?v=9KXlv-FGDa4

Al Jazeera (English)

watch?v=R3orOO7Q8as

CBS (American News)

watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI

One English source and two american sources does not equal Al Jazeera videos.  Learn to provide accurate information when posting retard!! Your distorting the facts as usual.

[mateo2]

A society of death. Palis deserve no better.

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

"A society of death. Palis deserve no better."

Palestinians have been living in a society of death ever since the Zionist Farmers came and forced them off their land.  Also, treating them all like prisionors even the innocent people.

This will never stop until the Palestinians win what they want. Freedom!!

[mateo2]

That's BS. There's no excuse for their terror. No one is standing in their way of freedom, except for their arab brothers, who constantly use them as a tool agains the Jews.

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

"That's BS. There's no excuse for their terror. No one is standing in their way of freedom, except for their arab brothers, who constantly use them as a tool agains the Jews."

Figthing for your freedom is not an excuse. Its a basic instinct!! The following videos show justification. There are even more on my profile which prove justification!!

watch?v=9KXlv-FGDa4  watch?v=R3orOO7Q8as watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI

Your the one hiding facts!!

[Tzimnewman3]

watch?v=9KXlv-FGDa4

watch?v=R3orOO7Q8as

watch?v=MYAgyv2MKyI

[mateo2]

Bla bla bla. Deliberately killing innocent people under a pretence of "fighting for freedom" got palis where they are now. Palestinian suffering is mainly self-inflicted.

[Tzimnewman3]

mateo2,

"Palestinian suffering is mainly self-inflicted."

Thanks for demonstrating how little you know about the Palestinian conflict. Your obviously a Zionist or a supporter of Zionism.

"Deliberately killing innocent people under a pretence of 'fighting for freedom'."

During a 5 year period Israel killed thousands of Palestinians. Hamas rockets over that same period only killed 8.  If your so interested in innocent people then why do you dissregard Palestinians life??

[c9dw2rm8]

Only Muslims scum can justify this attack by using Reasons !!

[Tzimnewman3]

c9dw2rm8,

"Only Muslims scum can justify this attack by using Reasons !!"

How about a white athiest man?? Can a white athiest man give reasons which justify this?? Can Israel justify 60 years of terrorism against the Palestinians??

[rnbblendz]

suck sum muslim dicks koya...

[koya25555]

FUCK Israel

[chrmenn]

Poor mother, poor youngsters...

It's a deadly cult called Islam...

And don't tell me I should read it in context...

smite them by their neck leaves little room for interpretation

[Israel4ever1]

There is poverty all over the world, only muslims chose to blow up, makes u wonder doesn't it?

[vinepress]

its not a matter of poverty alone...

[JJJadm]

we all should join Hamas.

[amina777islam]

Allahu akbar

[c9dw2rm8]

Muhamd is a fagot !!

[MommieDearest67]

Arabs are loons. Should be put in a big cage.

[anarchy116]

no one has he right to critize palestinians, u dont live the misery they do, at least they fight for their freedom, if u were in a similar situation u'd shit ur pants and call for ur mommy, so shut the fuck up and dont try to act like u have the best opinion.

[rofelstijlskin]

how is suicide bombing not also collective punishment? the report didnt even say how many people died from the attack. how does it benefit their cause, or anyone, to blow themselves up?

[historicrecord]

Yes Shabaa - the best thing they ever did was to blow themselves up. It's ashame they didn't do it sooner. I just feel sorry for the 73 year old woman they murdered and her 80yr husband who was injured.

[modatar]

What a sorry mess.

[historicrecord]

Poor suicide bomber - shot dead before he could wreak carnage & his poor mother has lost her bread winner. My heart bleeds for her

[historicrecord]

I don't think she's crying for the 73 year old lady that her son murdered or her 80 year old husband who's in a critical State. Two less terror rats make the World a better place for all.Let them rot in their paradise

[kdaparast]

wow you have the guts to say such a thing.

it is so true that you are nothing but a bunch of thieves and disgrace to humanity.

shame on you.....even Moses is ashamed of you people,I am sure...............

[PauloGVieira]

The world is changing - its hard to feel sorry for a state like Israel and attacks against it when it's military occupation of Palestine is absolutely heinous. Israel is becoming the new South Africa.

[bluevoltaire]

Down with Zionist Scum. Long live Hugo Chavez, Russia and Socialism. Capitalist New World Zionist Scum will be bring their own destruction. Wait and see..@!

[jonathantosio]

Sad... =(

[oppenheimdavid]

I know lots of people in bad situations, they're not running to murder as many as they can. These guys bring shame to their community and are the cause of measures that limit Palestinian movement.

[RG415WBFAA]

How many people do you know in the largest concentration camps in the world with unemployment in that is among the world's highest?

[chachalaca87]

Well then its a chicken and egg situation. Many people argue that the measures the Israeli government are using to oppress/control the Palestinian movement bring shame to Israelis and 'civilised' societies everywhere, and are the cause of severely disillusioned individuals committing atrocities on Israel. Many countries have controversial secessionist movements (i.e. Serbia, Philippines) but the govt's there aren't exactly running to send armies to brutally occupy and kill innocent civilians.

[VolTroN3000x]

Murders trying to kill innocent people again. Stupid Palestinian terrorist. Murderers are all these suicide bombers are.

The Israeli police man was nice to shoot him dead instead of letting him suffer like he deserved.

[MetalMilitia98]

I pity the Mothers.

"Every man is born free, but everywhere people are in chains".

[Photoshopboy]

Rambo said "When you're pushed, killing is as easy as breathing" lol

So don't feel surprised when you see a random suicide attack. Like that man said, life is like prison. I feel sorry for the mothers

[evilwitch18]

In the next holey war, the non-believers (gods) will sit back watch you slaughter each other. And when you have had enough we will finish you off. At least save the innocent children.

[livestrongdiehard666]

u guys are blind stop listening to cnn and see who the real enemy is

[livestrongdiehard666]

fucking israelis did it. how can he have crossed over ofter u zionist animals blocked it. all these attacks r from israelis so they can have a reason to kill palestinians

[kam3Oen]

And people wonder why Israel builds walls and puts up checkpoints. BTW, Israel will now be building a wall on the gaza/egypt border and finishing the wall in the west bank (where the bombers infiltrated from).

[jklasdfjdfksl]

if israelis want, they should be able to build walls within their own territory; it has been obvious for some time that the occupation is the source of all this conflict. israel has chose expansion over peace continually.

[kam3Oen]

We don't build walls to expand, we build them to protect what we already have from muslims who already control 99% of the middle east.

[ovaisreza]

Deep seated hate is obvious in your comments, why don't you talk about 90% of Palestine you control, and illegally have occupied. You will never live in peace, as long as you keep spreading you hate, and insist on Nazi tactics!

[kam3Oen]

We control all of Palestine, and it's called Israel. I'm not sorry about that either. If you want to beat Israel, you'll have to try to do it on the battlefield, and we know how that will turn out. :)

[dangermouse1999]

You are acting like you're tough, I have never met a Jew that can fight. You are all pussies! Tanks vs rocks, who is going to win. Pussyholes.

[kam3Oen]

No, jews aren't tough. But who's going to win in a war, chess champion generals, nuclear scientists and tank inventors, or brainless savages screaming Allah Akbar. BTW, we don't fight in pubs and in the streets like uncivilized monkeys, we're not british.

[chachalaca87]

So who won in the Lebanon, the "brainless" Hezbollah savages or the enlightened Israeli army?  As the world would seem to recall, Israel was forced to an ignominious retreat.

[kam3Oen]

Lebanon war...lets see, we lost 150 people (that includes a bunch of Israeli arabs), not an inch of territory, and the rockets stopped. That's quite a victory Hezbollah scored.

[chachalaca87]

Lol. Israel went in to eradicate Hezbollah; Hezbollah's aim was to drive Israel out. Result: Hezbollah's position in the Lebanon becomes ever so stronger, and Israel runs home.

[kdaparast]

you stupid brain washed idiots...

all the hardship for all people does not mean any thing? and for what? to make a bigger grave for sharone..........? shame on you!

[luxcretia2]

IN WAR THERE ARE NO VICTORS

[geokh1888]

I totally agree with that comment, true words. NO winners and all such a mess and when will it end, think there is too much hatred on all sides, we will see more of the same. A waste of life and Peace is a dream, a dream that we must try and achieve.

There is no way to Peace, peace is the way.

Violence encourages violence.

Hope, not Hate.

[ovaisreza]

If any thing you can learn from history is that it will repeat it self. You got more than Billion people, who's eschatology tells them that one day we would kill you, every single one of you, for you neither upheld covenant with God nor inline with common human decency, so we will get a chance to equal the balance. As far as Nuke goes, nuke do not determine the outcome and we have some. You think its just the fat shawerma shovin Arabs you are fighting? Your and their time is numbered!

[alexanderlinden]

Well 300 million arabs seem to have trouble with defeating a bunch of jews. LOL

[JOJOTORONTOISE]

Arabs they are not fighting jews only they are fighting all the biggest imperialist powers that support israel , if it was only Jews it would have been history by now,jews are doing to arabs what Nazzis did to them now

[alexanderlinden]

Riiiight! Maybe spit out the qat, Alibaba.

[dangermouse1999]

I am tired of Jews thinking they are tough because they have a huge arsenal of weapons, tanks, f-16s etc. When the Nazis attacked you, you had no weapons. What happened? you ran away and hid like the little cowards you are, you didn't even try and defend yourselves. So stop acting like you're hard.

[alexanderlinden]

Well now we can defend ourselves deal with it!

[luxcretia2]

maybe you could not defend yourself during WWII, but what you are doing now you can`t really call defending.

[kdaparast]

that is so true, they coudn't fight them, they are fighting these people who had nothing to do with so called holoc..

wonder why even Moses disowned them....

[RedVolcan]

What makes you think that jews think highly of themselves you stupid squid farmer.

They want peace but those terrorists keep attacking civilians and breaking families.

They got enough space in Egypt and Jordan, they just do what they enjoy doing: Killing.

And for your information them jews defeated 5 arab countries in several fronts and yes, they were both outnumbered by men and had also inferior warfare technology.

[jklasdfjdfksl]

exactly, so israel has the right to build walls within its own land and lock itself up in a prison. they have no right to annex land and cut off another nation's economy and freedom of movement. the occupation of palestine is the root cause of this conflict, this has been known for sometime; only US/israeli rejectionism has been standing in the way. an occupying aggressive force claiming self defense is something so ridiculous that it should not be even taking seriously.

[kam3Oen]

jklas, Israel doesn't go around asking what people half a world away think it should do. It does what it must to remain a jewish state, in defensible borders in a hostile and savage part of the world. People like you remind us daily why we have Israel, and why we must defend it till the end.

[chachalaca87]

So why is it that Israeli Jews of Arab descent (i.e. Sephardic Jews) are still discriminated upon? How is it that the Arabs who make up 20% of the Israeli population are treated as second class citizens? How is it that Jewish immigrant politicians from within the Knesset are calling on native born Israeli Arabs to be kicked out of Israel? Why is Israel so opposed to a nuclear Iran when it is widely acknowledged that Israel illegally has its own undeclared nuclear arsenal?

Walls = domination.

[kam3Oen]

Chach, why, why, why. Why does the world care about Israel, instead of the world caring about the world (you know, the other 99.9% of it). Why is it that 40 thousand people a month die in congo and your bitching about how Israel "treats" it's arab citizens (who get housing, welfare, medical btw). I see in your video, the world's tiniest violin playing for the people of "Palestine", a nation which never existed on any map.

[luxcretia2]

kam3Oen.on the one hand because this conflict is the key of many other problems, on the other hand because to many people it`s "the Holy Land", well there are many more reasons... .about israel treating israeli palestinians: yt for "israel a state of its citizens?"

[kam3Oen]

Just as Iran is the Islamic republic of Iran, Israel is a jewish state. We will remain a jewish state with a strong jewish majority.

[kdaparast]

shame on you....theves, may god continue to make your lives misrible.

[QuasiEvilScott]

Everyone has or had a mother...

-Qes

[Mrpastry909]

I feel no pity for the mothers. If I was one of them, I'd deny that my son ever existed.

Stupid terrorists.

[jjalmood]

yar7amuhum allah, wa 7arara lana alquds alshareef

[Drummerboy999]

thats extermely scary...

[wahidh]

People check this out.

wakeupfromyourslumber(dot)com/­node/5589

[rhoula]

Suicide bombers is not the answer. La Illaha illa Allah.

choufouni dot com

[Alexander021]

Its not like they have F14's to use.

[rhoula]

Well if they stop fighting each other and agree on one common goal they can fight way more than israel.

choufouni dot com

[MasterNemesis102]

Makes you really think of who has it worse, when someone is willing to strap a bomb to themselves.