The Culture of the Underclass | Theodore Dalrymple

[6musky]

@tostopshortofbarking

He was a doctor in urban slum areas for years and a prison psychiatrist, so I'd hardly say he's 'ignorant'.

[westchesterny]

@6musky he's bright b/c he worked in a slum, lol. or b/c he was a mainstream psychiatrist, lol. read up on the revolving door between the DSM (diagnostic statistical manual) the university indoctrination systems, and the pharm companies. What a racket. REad "Against Therapy" by Jeffrey Maisson. Start to educate yourself, instead of following "experts." you have a brain, (maybe) you might as well learn to try to use it.

[6musky]

@westchesterny

What are you on about, don't patronise me you twerp.

[Vot63]

It's not an underclass problem, it's a middle-class problem. The middle-class support a value system that it supports ideologically, but which they manifestly reject in practice. The underclass absorb this ideology in good faith and base their actions in life upon what is essentially an alien, elite, belief system. 

[johnas1011]

@Vot63 the middle class is AWESOME! Best class evah!

[Vot63]

@johnas1011 You had to come all the way to Youtube to prove that you are an imbecilic vulgarian?

[johnas1011]

@Vot63 Hey! Why so hostile bro. They really are the best class EVAH! Prove me wrong ya rude douchebag.

[Vot63]

@johnas1011 Well, what I mean is that the underclass adopt a world view which is centered around a concept of rights without responsibilities, but that this world view has been created by the (middle-class) intelligentsia. The principle victims of underclass trash are working class. When, for example, I say that pedophiles should be tortured and then killed, wankers from the intelligentsia howl with rage and cry barbarism.

[johnas1011]

@Vot63 The views the underclass choose to adopt are their own responsibility. To blame another class is needlessly patronising to the underclass.

Also I don't believe the middle class did create the world view of rights without responsibilities since the middle class generally pay most of the taxes and create most of the business that provide the economic bedrock of modern civilisation. Middle class values inform our laws. Are the intelligentsia really representative of the middle class? contd

[johnas1011]

@johnas1011 contd: Or do they represent a bizarre sub culture of their own. I would argue the latter since the views of the intelligentsia do not represent the view of most normal middle class people.

[Vot63]

@johnas1011 The underclass adopt the worldview that best satisfies their immediate interests. If they are told by educated people that they are victims, and that they have a right to expect the state to support and entertain them, without any onus on themselves to give anything back, a large percentage of them will adopt that philosophy in justification for their immorality and fecklessness.Most middle-class people are not radical liberals, but most liberal intellectuals are middle-class.

[Fleshious]

"We didn't get that far."

Bloody priceless.