Intro to Muscle Testing (Applied Kinesiology)

[vlonp]

i mean this in a Wicca matter and not humorously but with the utmost seriousness, are you a wizard.

[VLNevada]

It's father time......

[MrMegaverse]

muscle testing works. i also do reiki and light axis healing. thanks.

[rahdaswami2452]

Who's messing with the muscle testing video.s. They're all being blocked or tampered with. Who scared that this information gets out.

[AnellaLiebe]

I use the arm test, o-ring testing and the sway test... also another one. This is the first time though I have been able to feel the finger rub one. Thanks!

[SimulacronX]

Pseudoscience, watch out. Pure quackery. Lots of cults use muscle testing for reasons of manipulation and dominance. The movements can be faked both by the patient or the practicioner. Quackery can have bad consequences because it hinders people to seek real help or a real therapy.

[Katnet1]

@SimulacronX I went to a Medical doctor...many infact and have suffered for years. Went to a doctor that practices this and I am feeling so much better. I didn't even know what it was when I went it...but it's amazing. It was not faked! I had 2 people with me in the room..and they were amazed how he knew without asking me which discs were out in my back. 2 weeks ago I would have thought this to be nonsense...but my doctor has made a believer out of me!

[SimulacronX]

@Katnet1 That is strange.

[zthetha]

I've just tried the palm-down-palm-up- finger test and guess what? No difference. It seems the guy in the group was also having difficulty getting this alleged scientific method to work. Nevertheless it is a fascinating idea so I will persevere although my gut feeling is that it is no more than suggestion and conditioning, e.g.according to Dr David Hawkins an American will respond positively to the Stars and Stripes flag whereas(non Americans) the rest of the world will respond negatively.

[AnellaLiebe]

@zthetha Some people can feel the test using the finger rub method and others can't. I have used muscle testing on a personal and volunteer basis for 3 years. I had tried the finger rub method and it didn't work for me....but I just watched the video and felt it for the first time. Some of it takes a little practice. It takes some practice to take blood pressure or pulse accurately. Does that mean it is quackery? Not trying to be "smart," just an example. The arm test and o-ring are easier.

[zthetha]

@AnellaLiebe Hi - and thanks for your comments. I don't think it is quackery and see no reason why it should not work - it just doesn't seem to work for me. I have friends who do tests with pendulums and rely on the results. However, when their wrists are held immobile the pendulum stays still. That is not to say their method is quackery either because the body has its intelligence - the so called unconscious mind - which these techniques appear to tap into.

[Darryld1]

Is there no end to the number of different names for Placebo? Also is there no end to the number of people who are too gullible to make informed decisions but who will also defend their ignorance without being willing to enter into reasoned debate?

[MrEricthebilliken]

lol pseudoscience

[hystricomorpha]

@MrEricthebilliken are you saying this is fake. How dare you doubt the beard. Any one with a moses beard must be telling the truth.

[JeremyMelli]

haha

[thelifeuwant]

interesting

[renski336]

SIMPLY: All your body is build with molecules and atoms. We all know from physics that's the energy. That means we all are just the energy. THose who deny energy crap and all methods based on working with energy are actually denying their own existence. Now that's STUPID, isn't it NODODON?

[felixthecatvt]

Nutty shiite.

I like how everyone thinks that because they're persecuted they must be telling the truth. Do the Mormons come to mind?

[CosmicJediGoat]

weeee more youtube arguing and calamity. ENJOY

[surrealsound]

touch me, please, i mean it....aaaa

[micimize]

Wait what is he doing at 6:10? Anyone tried that? Doesn't do anything, whatever he's doing.

[JFM135]

Has anyone noticed how FEMINIZED the men in these things always are? What's up with that?

[n0md3plum]

i'd like to lite that beard on fire, and then muscle test this quack.

[jonb523]

well billysue2, you certainly are showing your ignorance today

[jonb523]

"All truth passes through three phases: first, it's ridiculed; second, it's violently opposed and third, it's accepted as being self-evident."

- Arthur Schopenhauer

[thoughtsurfer1]

Another soldier in the war against reason. You use terms like "third eye" and call the other guy childish? What century are we living in?

[praj0patel]

Nikken is not just Brainwashing methods, magnetic devices that affect directly your Brain using the Earth Shumann frequency, it is also sorcery, spell after spell.

People learn to use kynesiology to demonstrate the products but when you apply to detect witchcraft on the Nikken products, you discover the voodoo present, the macumba

[willlliw]

taking 1 look at the guy i knew he had the cure to cancer

[areohbee1123]

lmfao...wasnt he in harry potter?

[zmyr88]

NO test is 100% accurate. +90 percent is a good result. but false positives/negatives aare always possible and should be accounted for. bias won't affect a blood test as it would a muscle test. (but even that happens sometimes. grrr). go with logic, and the "gut" about wether the result "feels" correct, if not, test again or find a diffrent method/ second opinion.

[jonb523]

jayne it is so good to hear you are now well, thank goodness for the (witch) doctor for using muscle testing.

[jonb523]

Further, AK uses muscle testing as only part of their normal diagnosis. If you were to read the intro into AK Synopsis, you would see that muscle testing is only part of a therapists tool kit.

[jonb523]

Muscle testing is ONLY a diagnostic tool, it does not fix anything. Kinesiology is simply muscle testing, what a therapist does after that is usually a combination of many therapies.

jayneyre does NOT have lyme disease anymore, is that not proof? Specific muscle testing does show changes in the neurology when a person is tested. Unfortunately the muscle testing shown on U-Tube is very amateur.

Check out my 3 vids, search jonb523,to view techniques used, diagnosis cures nothing.

[jonb523]

jayneeyre explained how she is better, why is that a problem for you. Are you not aware that everyone is different and needs a different treatment even though they have the same symptoms.

Kinesiology can pass a double blind test, but mostly the db tests are complicated. Kinesiology is NOT a scientific method, the same as Trad. Chinese medicine, it is energy medicine. Whenever energy medicine is used, it relates only to the people using it. Change the dynamics changes the results.

[nododon]

Wow, you are both stupid and ignorant at the same time. All you said was that you swallow the bullshit hook, line, and sinker. It is all such subjective nonsense and stupid gullible morons like janeerye think is magic. You can't say you "feel" better and justify it's effectiveness. It has to be challenged with a control group or it is nothing but wishful thinking. Have fun with your pathetic little masquerade.

[jonb523]

nododon, thank you for your response, I find it interesting that you are the only one upset, swearing and cursing and being abusive. You obviously have an anger issue, perhaps you could have a session with a good kinesiologist to help you with that.

AS you 'SHOULD' know, all natural medicine does is help the body heal itself as nature intended.

[nododon]

I'm not angry, I just find it hard to believe that people can be so gullible that's all. AK has been proven time after time that it fails all logic and reasoning as a valid treatment at all. We (doctors) know it does not work because we challenged the so-called master AK'ers and they failed miserably to reproduce their results. It is actually very embarrassing to watch as they fall apart in dis-belief that what they were taught was a lie. It's really pathetic when you think about it.

[jonb523]

I've heard all that before, from doctors. It's acutally quite funny, because no senior AK people have any knowledge of this testing. However, that said, the only real test for any form of Kinesiology is the clients, and what the clients say, like janeeyre, it works for them. Modern medicine has dismally failed society and has just become the protitute of Big Pharma, and that's why people are turning to alternatives.

[nododon]

I am 100% in favor of alternative medicine.

But this is absolute junk.

AK is not an alternative it is a hoax. And just because someone is mesmerized by some phony baloney muscle test to evaluate things like vitamin deficiencies, organ malfunction, etc. it is still something that has failed all logic when it gets challenged.

Define work OK? Can you measure a comment like "it worked" What worked? The person says they felt better. That is just subjective and holds NO real value at all.

[janeeyre321]

The reality is blood tests were inconclusive TWICE. Muscle testing gave my doctor the go-ahead and because of that I got the treatment I needed. You sure do put a lot of negative energy into this posting--calling me a "gullible moron" is a pretty petty and childish response.

[janeeyre321]

You couldn't be more right. I saw at least 6 different doctors and each one failed me miserably. My current doctor was the only one to use muscle testing, and the only one to successfully diagnose my problem. I'll be pretty hard pressed to return to a doctor who doesn't use AK in his/her practice.

[billysue2]

you then are a very foolish person,AK is a totally unproven method dismissed by almost every legitimate scientist.

[billysue2]

client response is not evidence,even freshmen in medical school know how to appraise research critically.Senior AK practitioners are invariably quacks so their testimony is invalid.

[billysue2]

AK has never passed proper testing,do you know differently?If AK is not based on scientific principles then it doesnt exist.Energy medicine is a crock of shite .Acupuncture isnt energy medecine,its neurophysiologically based.

[zzsharka]

Yes it has and a chiropractor designed it. Also Dr Charlse Krebs (kreb cycle) uses it, he is also a scientist.

But it is not 100% acurate as nothing is.

[billysue2]

direct me to the stuy showing any energy medecine or AK to work,it doesn exist.If krebs uses it hes mistaken and in the extreme minority amongst educated people

[zzsharka]

Energy is the lowest common denominator of everything so it makes sense to learn about energy. Acupuncture is all about restoring energy imbalances to boost the immune system so that the bodys' natural healing system is unblocked. e.g. when you cut yourself your body is meant to heal but if that cut doesnt heal then there is obv a problem & instead of giving you drugs with many other side effects, tcm/acupauncture will attempt to find where the energy imbalance is, and restore that imbalance etc

[billysue2]

what energy,what imbalances?No tcm lad can ever answer the most basic questions.Thats why science dismisses it.

[zzsharka]

There are acupuncurists working with doctors in just about every hosptal in America and many European countries. What energy ? ask Albert Einstein lol The reason why natropaths, acupunturists etc have lots of clients is because it works. You are misguided as they have proven many times that there is more electrical energy in the body where the acupuncture points are than anywhere else. I don't want to waste my time explaining this to you as you are not willing to learn.

[billysue2]

acupuncture when it works is by a combination of placebo and known neurophysiological mechanisms,nothing to do with meridians or energy of any kind.I have less of a problem with acupuncture,its AK I was criticising mostly.Alternative medicine has clients because people are stupid with regard to scientific matters and its cheaper.

[zzsharka]

60% percent of all healing is placebo according to science. The best chiroparactors use A K. Alternative medicine is an old term as it is now often called complementary medicine as western & eastern medicine often compliments each other as no form of medice works for everybody and certain types work better for various ailments. U S doctors have to chose a mosdality of "alternative medicine" now to complete their degree. That wouldn't happen if it was B S. Yes there are always some quacks.

[tajicentre]

Muscle Testing is not TCM or related to meridian theory. Science acknowledges that the body is connected to the brain by various networks and that brain damage interrupts those network connections. Also the brain is a bank of all the incoming sensory data most of which our 'mind' is totally unaware of at any point in time. The body is able to access this information with yes/no answers in a muscle test which either leaves the network intact (strong) or breaks the circuit (weak). Test it!

[janeeyre321]

You probably weren't balanced. Take it down a notch!

[nododon]

Do a google search on this and go to the section on Applied Kinesiology:

How People Are Fooled by Ideomotor Action

Ray Hyman, Ph.D.

Then form an opinion.

I have been treating patients for over 25 years. I know what works and what doesn't work. I have seen this crap peddled in our relicensing seminars and we (colleagues) always make them look stupid because we challenge them to test it with reproducible findings. You know what?

THEY CAN'T. They make fools of themselves everytime we do it.

[janeeyre321]

I'm walking proof that it works. I don't need to read anything to believe it. All blood tests came back negative of any infection, muscle testing said otherwise, I was treated alternatively. Lyme disease is a thing of the past for me now. Modern medicine did nothing for me and left me out in the cold.

[nododon]

janeeyre321. Everything you just said is totally subjective. That is not proof of anything at all.

[janeeyre321]

Who cares? I know it's subjective and yet I know it works. Muscle testing has given my doctor a wealth of information that modern medicine could never give. In return I have been given many chances for excellent health. Modern medicine is not all it's cracked up to be. It's silly to think we can prove and measure everything. Look at God--that whole topic is COMPLETELY subjective yet everyone will defend it as the ultimate truth. That's completely hypocritical.

[billysue2]

janeeyre,if it cant be proven then it shouldnt be used to treat people,it is sciences responsibility to monitor bullshit like this so lay people will not be harmed or their money wasted .The concept of a god is another crock of shite.

[MGCAUSTIN]

Are you saying that Lyme disease was diagnosed via muscle testing?

[janeeyre321]

The first test came back that I didn't have it. The second was inconclusive. So, the doctor muscle tested me--for lyme, 10 secondary infections, candida albicans, to name a few. My doctor has come up with a way of healing using energy--he finds the cause/source of the problem using his medical background and then treats using the different polarity his fingers create on the third eye, heart and belly button. I was very sick for 6 months, healed in 4.

[zmyr88]

yes, thats seems to be the best explanation for why it works. the subconcious can and DOES know more about certian things than our concious; intution, repressed/ projected, etc events.

many times we know the right answer we just don't want to see it. muscle testing increases probability we will get the answer. or show us we are holding on to something. (wrong answer = harmful belief)

try it with things psychological reletate, repression, lost memories, etc. problems see what happens???

[nododon]

In my opinion people are very gullible about the metaphysical world if there even is one. Both the treating s0-called "healer" and the patient are misfits in most cases. Like this babbling idiot in the video. Pathetic bullshit, and people go "ahhhhh and ouuuuu" isn't it amazing?

These morons deserve to pay for their stupidity and the assholes like ZZ Top wanna-be in the video will just have to live with his deceptive fraud.

Quack Quack Quack

[RUSEMANE]

people talk bad about murderers too. But People talked bad about jesus, so they're in good company. right? That's the same argument you just used yes? This is a dangerous practice! With no sound reason or legitimate statistical studys to say this works people could just as easily take poison as something helpful for them!

[jonb523]

nododon, your knowledge of Kinesiology is sadley lacking. If you had anyknowledge you would know why Kinesiology fails DBS. Knocking something without proper investigation is the height of ignorance.

I do not think what this man is doing is completely accurate, however, if he gets good results who is anyone to question.

[nododon]

jonb523. I have been in the health profession for over 25 years now treating patients for various ailments and you are going to come along and tell me that I should know why AK fails DBS. If it fails DBS then it fails period.

Do you want to explain why it should not be subject to these kind of scientific testing procedures?

Give it a try, and be straight forward with your explanation. No new age crap OK?

[iridologyed]

Thank you very much for taking the time to post this! It was very helpful!